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Grandma Bear
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Okay, here we go. There may be only a couple of people entering, but that's okay.

As mentioned earlier, a production company and Babz are looking for a thriller involving amnesia so that will be our assignment.

You have 7 weeks, until Sept 4th to write a feature. This is not a competition, but rather a spur to make us finish a script in the time allowed. This thread is meant to be helpful to those who chose to participate. If you get stuck and need help, post your questions or concerns here.

C'mon people, I know all of you can do it!  


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Pia,

I'm in!

Is there a rating they are wanting to keep it at? G, PG, R?

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So far it looks like we have "me", Jeff, Shawn and Brian and 1 maybe. That's good. Maybe some others will come along later on.

I think it would be a great idea if we could discuss our scripts and the progress here as well. It might help get us through that tough second act.

I have a title for mine and even a logline. Feel free to comment.

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A young, up and coming attorney about to get married  must solve the mystery of all the dead women in his apartment before the police does.



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Is there a rating they are wanting to keep it at? G, PG, R?

No. You can write whatever rating you want. If you can write a G-rated one, that would probably be great. I have a feeling mine will be a hard R...well, at least I'm consistent!



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So far it looks like we have "me", Jeff, Shawn and Brian and 1 maybe. That's good. Maybe some others will come along later on.


I want to do it but I'm not sure. I'll definitely look into trying it, though. At the worst, I have exactly what I started with. Nothing.

Are there any budget constraints with this?

Well, I thought about it. I have a mild idea coming together. So far, this is what I have.

Title: Gold & 38.

Basic plot: A hitman wakes up in a backroom doctor's office to discover he can't remember anything about his past but has a gut feeling that someone is coming to kill him.

I could fill in more of the "why's" but if I decide to change it later, it may not matter anyway.


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I'm in. My period drama can wait.

Unless this is cheating, I'm gonna borrow the title of Bleeding Green from the OWC.

A beautiful amnesiac must recover her memory and prevent an eco-terrorist from destroying her and all mankind.

Recommend checking out http://www.thrillerwriters.org for in-depth info on the genre.


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I'm down. I have to write a feature some point in my life. lol.

I'm going to use my Obscure short and expand upon it.

I have a logline in mind but can't quite capture it accurately into words. But when i do, I will definitely post here.

Hey pia

I like the concept. That type of scenario has really never been done before...I think.  

Hey Mr. Blonde

I think you might need to fix the logline. But not to worry, I'm in the same boat as you in regards to writing the logline for my script.  

Hey Blakkwolfe

Curious to see how the ecosystem works in a thriller story. I'll see if I can read the short to get a better idea of where you might be heading.


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I think the tough part about amnesia scripts is the why part.

Why did this character have amnesia? And the answer to that will give all sorts of background information about that character. Actually, I think the background information is the fuel of the entire story.

And usually in amnesia thriller story, someone is killed or going to be killed, and the protagonist has to find out why.

What if the person who has amnesia is NOT our protagonist? That'd be something different.


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Memwipe
- Sci-Fi, Action, Thriller (114 pages) - In a world where memories can be erased by request, a Memory Erasing Specialist desperately searches for the culprit when his wife becomes a target for erasure -- with his former colleagues hot on his trail.
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I've got a basic idea for a twisty thriller mixed with some action. Basic idea is that the main character is pretty high up in a terrorist cell operating in New York but gets amnesia because of an accident with one of their own bombs. With no memory of how or why he is involved with something like this, he tries to piece together his past and question if what he doing is right before thousands of lives are lost. Lots of ticking time bombs and hopefully good twists in the story.

I've still to plan it out scene by scene but I've got a pretty good idea where I want it to go. Obviously, it could fall flat right away as our main character is a terrorist, and working on characters has been a terrible weak spot for me, but hey, that's why it's a challenge. No title or suitable logline yet, those can wait until the end. I hope to start writing before the end of July if I can get something out the way first.
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This is my last week at work before my Summer Holiday starts on the 23rd.

My priority at the moment is the Red Planet Prize (a UK TV competition), but one way or the other that will be out of the way by the 31st, it's closing date.

Then...

I have learnt my lesson after last year, and am not going to commit myself at this point. We'll just see what we see.
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I'm thinking of joining. I have a 10 page short - a thriller involving amnesia.

Here's the logline: A corrupt police officer tries to buy his identical twin's life by offering him dirty money. Little does he know that his impoverished brother has been an undercover officer working on his case.

I might have given away the plot in the logline though.

Haven't written a feature in a really long time!
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Although I am to busy to work on this right now, I do have an idea based on the last table read.

I was under the imperssion that Babz wanted the first ten pages of a script THAT WAS BEING WORKED ON. So I started writing a script. Come to find out of course, it was the first ten pages of a completed script.

Maybe someone could pitch this idea to her.

The first ten pages of your work in progress to guage whether or not she might be interested.

The first ten pages to be completed in say 1 or 2 weeks.

If not, you are not out 7 weeks of work. If it does peak an interest, you can go from there to complete it.

Just a thought.

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Jeff, or anyone else for that matter, you can start anytime you like. It needs to be finished by September 4th though.  


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Hey everyone, I was gone all weekend.  Just found this new thread.

Sounds like you guys are well on your way already...especially Pia!  Very, very impressive.

I've been doing some brainstorming and have a rough concept for a hard R thriller involving amnesia...or at least, something like amnesia.

The protag will be either male or female.  Supporting cast will mostly all be humans.  There will be either a dog or cat that com into play.  Budget will not be small.  Language will be English.

Am I giving away too much already?

Good luck everyone!  Should be fun.
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My story has changed slightly. My main character is undercover with the terrorist cell when one of the bombs explodes by accident, giving him some major amnesia. The FBI lose the terrorist cell and have to rely on him to piece together the clues and remember where the other bombs are before it's too late.

That's the idea so far, although it could probably change more as the days go on. Still not started writing, but I will when I plan every single scene in my head so I don't get stuck halfway through.

I'm not bothered about writing this to send it to a production company... I'd rather use this as an exercise to write something new again. Damn rewrites will be the death of me. Good luck to all!
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Thanks Pia, sounds great. I'm in then.

Here's the short I'm expanding on:

http://waterandoil-productions.com/deanna/Robbie's%20Files/Contest/ItTakeTwo.pdf

(I didn't care to properly format it; also first half of a page is not mine, it's written by the producer - that was a part of the assignment)

Also, if you wish to read it - better copy paste it in the search window, clicking on it does not work most of the time.

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So we have 6 in for sure, and a few maybes... pretty good. I'll be reading all the completed scripts, too.
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Alright...feeling much better about this now.  I actually have my plot and story set.  Lead protag will be male.  A few locales even selected.

I actually really like it!  But, as always, it's deep under wraps, so I doubt I will reveal much more, other than progress or lack there of.

I'm going to set up an outline and get writing ASAP...hopefully even today.

BTW, Khamanna, your link didn't work...try re posting and make sure it's accurate.
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Got my basic premise set-up. Bleeding Green is the working title, the lead is a hot chick with a photographic memory. Course, she get's amnesia, so that kind of sucks for her...


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I'm in.  

I came up with an idea last night and ran with it.  Currently at 20 pages.  No workable logline yet but it involves cannibalism, torture, and sandwiches.  

Title: Let Me Hear You Scream


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Greg...SWEET!  Another entry...nice job, man.

Sounds like horror to me, though.  20 pages already?  Damn..you guys (and gals) are good.  That's fast writing.

Excellent!!!!
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Awesome Greg!

I'm heading to bed in a minute. I ended the day on page 34. Don't feel bad if you are not as fast. I'm notorious for being fast at writing crap! So, take your time guys. This is just how I do things. That's all.


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Ok, I think I came up with a logline for mine. It's in first draft form, still, but it's functional.

Logline:

After being shot in the head for failing an assignment, a hitman develops amnesia. When he receives details on what the failed hit was, he realizes he must now protect the former target, his ex-wife, an anti-gun politician.


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I've been brainstorming on four or five ideas but I've now settled on one... or I think I have. I have it clear in my mind and when I work out a few minor things, I'm ready to start writing. So to recap, no more terrorists, spies, exploding body parts and the like. Just a tense thriller with lots of suspense and mystery. I'll post the logline very soon.

A "round table" does sound extremely helpful. Did anyone else go that route?
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Just took a long hike through some beautiful woods, alongside a gorgeous lake.  Lots of time to think...

Looks like I've once again changed things up in my script.  Like, totally changed things up.  And once, again, I'm happy that I didn't actually start it yet, cause this one's better.

I do have a question for you all that I need advice on...

I've come up with a title that I love, but it's already been used in the mid 90's for a movie that didn't do very well, but definitely had some star power attached to it.  Should I not worry about it, and just use the same title I like, or ditch it, and come up with something fresh?

Thanks, guys!
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Sigh...so I had an idea. Whether I'll actually write it or not, I dunno - I want to get this Red Planet competition script finished and polished, which will take up the next week at least. But after that...we'll see.

Of course, that would only leave me with five weeks. Which is probably unrealistic, although with enough attention paid to outlining, who knows. I'm not going to commit to entering, and it's 80%-20% I won't...

...but it is a good idea.


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I've finally kicked my ass into gear and wrote 5 pages. I have a complete outline of where the story will go and what will happen in 90% of the scenes. Things may change slightly as I write but not much. I'm certain I will complete this well before the deadline.

I don't have a logline or title yet, but my story is a fairly simple one. A young woman marries a very rich and successful businessman, but after a horror car crash on the night of their wedding, she is left with severe amnesia and can't remember the last year of her life. She doesn't even know who her new husband is. As some dead bodies are found around the town, she starts to get really paranoid and think he is the killer. No one will believe her so she has to piece together the last year of her life and find out just how well she did know her husband.

It should turn out very low budget with few characters and locations but I think I can make it interesting enough for a 90 odd page feature.  
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I actually have an idea as well. It's a sci-fi thriller where a man has his memory erased and get new memories implanted in. This memory-erasing service is funded by government to protect the public. The man must infiltrate the base to retain his memory. Haven't thought about the stakes yet.

I probably don't have enough time to it...just under 5 weeks, right?


FEATURE:

Memwipe
- Sci-Fi, Action, Thriller (114 pages) - In a world where memories can be erased by request, a Memory Erasing Specialist desperately searches for the culprit when his wife becomes a target for erasure -- with his former colleagues hot on his trail.
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After finding back his kidnapped amnesic wife, a man starts to experience strange occurrences as his wife's memory starts to recover while his memory deteriorates.  


Uh...I don't know about this.  Here's why...

Finding his kidnapped, amnesiac wife is alot right there.  You've got to show she's been kidnapped, show she's an amnesiac, then have the hubby "find her" - this isn't easy stuff, and it will take a bunch of pages anyway you look at it.  Then, you kick into another completely different plot line.

Know what I mean?  IMO, this is a plot that would need many months of developing.  If I were you, I'd stick to something much simpler that you can actually plot out, and write in a total of 7 weeks....you're already inside 6 weeks as of today.

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Let's try again.

A man's wife becomes amnesic after she went missing for several years. Now there are people who try to kill his wife while his memory starts to deteriorate. He needs to find out why this is all happening before he becomes amnesic.

I don't know, sounds like a rehash of some movies?


FEATURE:

Memwipe
- Sci-Fi, Action, Thriller (114 pages) - In a world where memories can be erased by request, a Memory Erasing Specialist desperately searches for the culprit when his wife becomes a target for erasure -- with his former colleagues hot on his trail.
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I think it would work if the wife regained her memory (as you mentioned earlier) is being sought by the kidnappers (and not just anybody, but I think you implied just that...though stating it would be even better). I like it.
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Herman,

What about taking the amnesia concept a step further, like a guy wakes up and everyone in the world has amnesia, except for him.  Or maybe it's spreading like a plague through the world and this guy has to find a way to stop it.  Sort of like that film Blindness, except you're using amnesia as the affliction.

Or, I know there's a form of amnesia where someone only forgets faces.  Maybe you could weave that into a mystery or something.
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Wow, these are all great suggestions! Thank you everyone.

Khama: good one, the wife escaped and now the kidnappers wanted her dead.

Jeff: I usually write a preliminary logline first, just so that I have my idea in words instead of just floating inside my head. I'm sure the logline will change the more I developed my story.

T. Joe: another good idea, that gave me thoughts about how the husband would get memory deterioration. Hmm.....maybe premature dementia?

Ryan: nice story ideas, but I'll have to save them for later on. It feels like the story would take place in an post-apocalypse setting and I'm not that prepared to write in that world yet. Maybe someday I will. Thanks.


FEATURE:

Memwipe
- Sci-Fi, Action, Thriller (114 pages) - In a world where memories can be erased by request, a Memory Erasing Specialist desperately searches for the culprit when his wife becomes a target for erasure -- with his former colleagues hot on his trail.
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I'm on page 17 right now. Feeling stuck - seems like my first act is done and it's only seventeen pages. Yet there's a lot of story on these pages. Might be I'm stingy with words.
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I've just started page 9. Most of the boring stuff and the car crash out of the way, now onto the mystery. I've had the full day off work but didn't write a word all day but I had a late flurry tonight and done a few pages. Ideally, I want to finish two weeks before the deadline so I've time to go back and sort out any problems and catch as many typos as possible. I still think I can make it.
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Good job everyone!

I'm on page 5 only, but I've made a few important changes that are taking some time to figure out exactly how it needs to go down.  The mystery has begun...

The vast majority of my research is also done now, so once I get rolling, hopefully, the page count will start increasing a bit quicker than it has.

I like where I am and where I'm going.
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OK, big progress today...on page 7 now!  Ha!

This is a tough script to write.  Far from standard structure once again, but this one's tougher than anything I've written to date.  Trying to keep my scenes very short and sweet.  I'll throw in a bar scene though, don't worry!

My Frost Bite, for sure!  You guys just wait...
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On page 5, but plan to do quite a bit of work this weekend, at least Act 1 completed.


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Congrats to all who was able to move on with his/her script! Even if the words are not yet on paper - the main thing is to think about it

I'm on page 35. And happy about it! Though I admit Pia reaching 75 would make me jealous.

I have couple of questions (mostly formatting) about the script. I posted one on MoviePoet and got an excellent response, but since it's the challenge - thinking maybe I can post them here.

My protagonist's name is Cole. What do I do if there's
Cole (V.O.) followed by Cole no v.o. and then by Cole(V.O.) again? The entire time he's alone, weighing his chances and deciding on something.

This is the way I have it so far:

COLE
Kate... or Beechnut...

He covers quite a distance in a matter of seconds.

COLE (V.O.)
Beechnut is crammed with police... Kate or Beechnut... Kate. My Kate. Kate will think I'm Cole just like that man...

Feverish, he shout out as if to reinforce his newly made decision:

COLE
With Steve out of the way for a few hours...


--thanks for any suggestions.
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Got 15pgs of a rough outline. I'm into my second act but finding it difficult to continue forward.

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If any of you guys need help to brainstorm ideas or discuss your script but don't want to do it here in the open, feel free to e-mail me. I'd be glad to help if I can.  


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Question:

I got a crime scene (the exploded building) with lots of firemen and police working. They talk to each other on walkies, ususally in code. Ex. Det. David Green is Code Seven, the County Coroner is Code 14, so they would call "seven to fourteen, over."

Would the dialogue be under Coroner or under Fourteen?

Trying to eliminate confusion for the reader in this very busy scene.

Thanks in advance.

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page 65. I have a feeling I'm going to have to make some MAJOR fixing before I send mine in on Sep. 4th.

Mine seems low on intense parts. Not sure I know how to write so the thriller aspects come out.  


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I'm up to page 21. It's a pretty rushed effort so far and I'm not too happy with my first 10 pages, but I'm getting into the mood now. I've got the next 3 nights with nothing else on so I can push ahead.

Star Wars... maybe I'm still all alone. I actually did see a porn segement in 'Zach and Miri Make a Porno' with Star Wars characters. That's gotta count for something. I'll need to rent them and see what all the fuss is about.  
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Oh fuck, there goes the PG 13 rating!

Up to page 12 now, and VERY happy with the additions.  Also, came up with a BIG scene that I've had trouble figuring out, and it's AWESOME...and very R rated, so I'm quite pleased.

Almost at that spot where I can start filling everything in.  Setup is almost complete.

I will finish on time and it won't be a first draft...it will be DONE!

YES!!!
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Looks like we've got a new entry in the 7WC.  Sweet!  

Welcome C M Hall!.  25 pages is a Hell of alot more than I have and you've still got 4 1/2 weeks to go.

You can easily make it.  I will easily make it.  We all will easily make it.
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Cruising along at page 42, but cheating on some of the fight sequences for now...




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I'm confused! What are you guys going on about?  

Anyway, I hit page 70, but I feel I'm very far from the end. I think this one might end up 120 pages or so.  


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Close to pg 20 in my rough outline. Hoepfully I can start writing by the end of this week.

Don't worry pia. there's always time to revise.


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Interrupting here with my blahblah - I'm on page 46 and got some of the ending too, just started picking scenes at random and write on them.
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Quoted from Grandma Bear


Anyway, I hit page 70, but I feel I'm very far from the end. I think this one might end up 120 pages or so.  


Actually, I think that's a good sign -- sounds like you have a complex story and intricate plot -- I envy that!
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Mine is an intricate plot but I can't squeeze more than 80 pages out of it. I wonder how that happens.

It's so intricate that I started thinking it's too much and I forget some of it so I decided to drop few plot points.
--already thinking about what to hit in the rewrite.
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You guys are hilarious!  I can't wait to read all the finished scripts.

Pia, page 70, and bodies are still being discovered?  If I discovered 1 body, I'd be the Hell out of wherever I discovered it and the PoPo would be on their way.  What kind of budget are you shooting for?

I will get over the 20 page humper today...hopefully 25.
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What you need assistance with Jeff?

I'm on page 75. Feel like I'm still far from the end...  


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No, I don't need any, but Ken did.  I was looking for some other opinions on the advice I gave him, which he didn't seem to agree with.

I'm page 23 now. Still going rather slowly, but I'm fixing things up as I go, so what I have is pretty solid, and (hopefully) error free.  All the major players have been intro'd, and the mystery is heating up.

I'd like to get to page 30 by tomorrow. I could easily write some scenes out of order, that I know of, but I'm trying to write it all as it goes.  Like you, Pia, it seems to be writing itself now and new ideas are coming and working.

This will not be a long script, IMO.  I'm gunning for a tight 90-95 pages.  BUT, tight to me, probably isn't tight to others.  Trying not to be too chatty.  Like you, Pia, my script is kinda slow, but I think the mystery elements will work well enough to keep it entertaining.  It's also a very visual script, and I'm looking at a large budget, with lots of really cool settings.

I like it!  I'm happy.  
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I've had to go back and rethink everything after straying wildly from my outline, so much so I was making stuff up to try and get back on track. Trust me when I say it turned out a complete mess, and I'm only on page 25.  

I'm going to spend the next day or two doing a new outline with my new ideas so I know where this is going. It's a pretty messy affair so far but I think I'll have the time to pull it all together before the deadline. I'm sure of it.

As for flashbacks and such. I don't have any extended flashbacks (yet), but I want to have quick flashes of images when my character remembers things from the past. I can't think of any examples of movies that you see this in, but I do know it happens in a lot. I don't know how to format this correctly but I'll worry about that when I have something that resembles a complete story first! I have no voiceovers, not really a fan of those.
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I don't have anyone breaking out of or waking up in a hospital. Don't have any FLASHBACKS or V.O. either.

Still on page 75...beer time starts soon for me so I don't expect that I'll add anything today.

Brian, don't worry about it. Mine is a big mess too. Just get the first draft done and then use all the comments you get here to fix the story.


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Just so all of you know, I won't have anything for this one. I had an idea, and it's an idea I sort of like, but I would never be able to sort it out and write it in four weeks. The world-building would probably take that long. The title would've been Transfer. Maybe I'll write it someday...

To all of you trying to finish, or soldier on, or even just starting - keep going! It's a great feeling when you actually reach the finish line on something like this; I j-u-s-t managed it last time, and I was really chuffed I did. I also got a half-decent script that I'm going to re-write and repost this Christmas. It's not a waste of time, it's a great learning experience, and there's no downside to having another script in your portfolio, even if it just a draft.

And if Jeff drops out of this one, too, then he's just a little weakass pussy bitch.


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JB, I won't be dropping out of this one, but I may be a little weakass pussy bitch anyways.

Page 26, and still chugging along.  can't wait till I get to the big set pieces.

No dialogue yet, and no human characters intro'd as of yet.  Luckily an eagle is my main character.
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I'm on page 59 seem like I have room for ten more pages, no more. Reached an action sequence and trying to write it well.

If I stop on seventy - I'll go back and add fluff here and there.

Good luck on finishing to all.
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Sounds like you've already made it then, Khamanna.  Good job!  Very impressive.

Probably won't have any time over the weekend...big UFC card tonight, peeps coming over for dinner, etc.  Maybe I'll get to page 30 by Sunday night, but that will be it.

Another new breakthrough has written itself, though, so that's cool.  Basically another subplot that will fill some needed pages for me.  I'm gong to be gone all next weekend, so I really need to get on this during the week.  Hope to get through at least page 50 by next Friday.

Good luck to everyone.  Keep at it!
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Change of plans. I'm back in and going to try and finish a script for the contest. I don't have it planned, I was stopped after four pages, but I'm gonna try and make something of it. 4 weeks to the day.

P.S. The sudden urge came from not finishing last year's when I said I would. I'm still dtewing over that and am also doing that, as well but this moved to the forefront.


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Am I the latest one to start?

I just had a faint idea of how my story goes and begin to write characters bios. I don't think I can finish this in 4 weeks, but what the hell, I'll still write it.


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Excellent you guys!!! We're here to help each other if you need any help or encouragement.

I'm on page 85. Need to set up for the final act and then some type of fight/revelation/conclusion thing and my rough first draft will be done!

Good going everyone!

Khamanna, I'm sure you'll be able to fluff it up to a real feature, no problem!  


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Three joined (or rejoined) in one day! Amazing.

I'm on page 65 and almost done. I'm glad that fluff is welcomed! I've got "fluff up" strategies and am excited to use them.

For example:

COLE
What about Kate? If I'm an undercover I’ll have to let her know.
Considering Steve is my brother...

could be turned into

COLE
What about Kate?
GARRETT
What about her?
COLE
If I'm an undercover I’ll have to let her know.
Considering Steve is my brother...

Too bad I can't have a hearing impaired hero, otherwise he'd go "What?" "Sorry, could you speak up, please" the whole script, adding precious lines.

Pia, congrats on 85! Wow.
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Protagonist Supporting Actress Character Name: Pick One for Me Request

25 year old female paramedic, suburban girl next door type, adrennaline junkie

I favor single sylable nick-names, loathe multi sylable names (efficient or lazy, you decide)
According to Social Security records durring the 1990's the following cherry picked names were most popular for females.

Someone pick a girl next door, adrennaline junkie, paramedic name for me.
I really don't care.

Jess / Jessie / Jessica   "Hand me that c-collar, Jess."
Sam / Samantha  "You get a line in yet, Sam?"
Meg / Megan   "Meg, dispatch wants to know why we're off route."
Jen / Jennifer  "This is Jen. She's a good guy. I order you not to shoot her."
Vic / Victoria  "Can you keep this thing under light speed, Vic?"



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Way to go you guys!!!

Thank you Blakkwolfe for your excellent suggestions here!!!

I'm still at page 85, but I'm going to sit down and see if I can get a few more pages stamped out.  


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Finished a first draft -- think I'll probably change just about everything in it.  Pretty much starting over, in other words.
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As for today, I've got around 6 or 7 pages written but I think I can finish this by deadline. I have an outline done which has helped me alot. I still keep updating or changing certain things around but still following it. I'm aiming at 30pgs for this week. I'm really hyped to actually working on a feature. I"m glad to see other people still working hard. Can't wait to read the entries. Good luck to all.

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Hi five to c m hall - I'm done too, at 75 pages.

There are few glitches that I'm aware of and have to fix to make the plot come together. And I'll have to let it simmer to stop thinking it's another masterpiece. Then rewrite and only then edit.

Haven't even work on it this much - it came easy to me and that's scares me too. Slapped some stuff together and voila...

good luck on finishing to all!
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Wow!  Very impressed, you two...very impressed.

Wolfe, you're starting all over?  Wow, that is very ambitious.  You can do it.

Page 35 for me.  Coming right along.  Should be able to hit page 45 by the end of the day, so I'm ahead of my schedule.

Where's everyone else at?
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I finished today too. Came in at 100 pages. I'm going to let it sit for a few days before I reread it so my eyes are a little more fresh.

I already came up with a twist ending idea so that will probably be something I'll change.

Congrats everyone and I'm stoked to see so many people taking part whether you're finished or just now starting. AWESOME!!!  


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I'm only 75 pages behind Khama.


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I decided to jump in late on this because I thought it would be fun to write something like this with zero planning. Start it out the typical way: guy wakes up with a body and no identity and just see where the muse takes me. I banged out 10 pages today, and I have an idea where the next handful are going, but I have no idea how it will end just because I'm not there yet. So rather than deal in existing plot points, I'm just writing with an idea of where the story should probably shift.

I considered keeping it to myself, but since I'm doing something different, I figured I'd share. If I happen to write myself into a corner, hey, that's how life treats you sometimes. So rather than write safe, I'll be dangerous and see just how bad my guy gets tortured.

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What the Hell is everyone talking about?  I'm completely lost.  This thread now has a mind of its own.

I've been sick, so no writing since Monday. On page 40.  Hope to get back to it ASAP.
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Haven't written on this in three weeks even though I said I was back in. Lots of other writing. However, I did 3 pages in the last 20 minutes and am on 7, and the plot is beginning to open up. I know it's not much, but I write slowly so whatever.

On a positive note, I have a corpse and am soon to have a second one. Yay, corpses. Lol.


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I only have two corpses, but I'm up to page 20. Meeting my 10 page a day quota. As I've been writing, I've had to ponder where the story is going. I don't necessarily know the next scene, but I've got a couple of killer twists, and I think I have my ending. If it works out that way, that's a sweet ending.

I've been taking story notes as I've been writing so I don't forget the ideas as they come out of sequence. Now if only I didn't have this pesky job to do on this end...


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On page 14, real lite on corpses at the moment, but that is going to change in the next few pages...

Like the story revisions, fleshed out the diabolical plan and added a 70's tough guy with a massive 'fro and Village People mustache. Also bought a Congressman, nearly destroyed an innocent blue Toyota and got a hot chick half naked...


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Around pg 11, hopefully can make it to pg 15 within today. Moving at a slow pace, but feel confident in what I'm creating.


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Quoted from Mr.Ripley
Around pg 11, hopefully can make it to pg 15 within today. Moving at a slow pace, but feel confident in what I'm creating.


Same with the exception of the page 11 part. But, in my own defense, I edit as I write which slows me down, but it's also part of not being motivated that I write slow. Up to 9. Also hope to be around 15 when today's over. =)

EDIT: It's amazing the turns these scripts make. When this scene began, I didn't expect it to become a five-page torture scene. But I like the tone it has. I just have to end it quickly, because from what I've planned ahead, there's nothing like this again in the script.



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Went through a rewrite and the bad news is that  the thrill is gone.  I mean, somehow when I was filling in the holes of the plot and correcting errors the various "thriller" elements in my screenplay now seem to have a lot less punch in them -- maybe they were weak all along.

That's one of the things about writing a lot of pages in a short time -- I thought the pace of writing would sustain the pace of the plot, but... not so much.

I'm starting another rewrite, I know there was a plot in there, someplace.

Hope you're feeling better, Dreamscale.

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On 11, now. Fell seriously short of my goal for yesterday, but if I can keep up the pace of today and yesterday, I should be able to make it this year.

Two corpses, one scene down. Yes, the opening scene was 11 pages, but pacing always been my second weakest aspect. =(


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Sorry, when is the due date again? Sept. 6?


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I believe we said Sep 4th....but, this is not a competition we're just trying to help everyone write a feature. If you finish on Sep 5th, no one is going to think you failed.  


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There have been times I've meticulously planned every detail from start to finish including every scene and character bios. There have been other times that I have a skeleton outline and basic characters. There are other times that I just write.

For this one, I'm just writing and taking notes as I go as to what I think will happen in pages beyond where I am. In my first 20 pages, my guy wakes up, finds the obligatory body, gets picked up by the mob, threatened, escapes, goes to the dead guy's apartment, meets a girl there, goes home with her, and ends up sleeping with her. I'm not sure I would have consciously outlined that much in act 1. Today, I'll find out what happens next.

At a goal of 10 pages per day, I should be able to revisit it at least once prior to the deadline to make sure it all actually works. I mean, this isn't reality; it's fiction, so it has to actually make sense.


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Almost finish my outline. Mine will be a very tame PG-13. No corpse, no swearing, no drugs, no alcohol, no sex, no nudity, but plenty of violence.


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I'm up to 31 pages. Weird stuff going on. Seeing if any other stuff will eek out. I'm in the middle of a scene, but not sure how the scene will end.


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Mine has evolved into a porno.  For dialogue, I now have "insert classic porn dialogue", or "ad lib dialogue here".

The animal sex scenes will have some Barry White and Tom Jones tunes playing over them.
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Just finished writing my opening sequence. 6 pages.


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Hey,

Do you guys and girls want me to clean up this thread a bit so you can get to the end of it easier?  Let me know.

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What do you guys think about unfilmables in character's introduction?

I have quite a few in mine.


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Quoted from Coding Herman
What do you guys think about unfilmables in character's introduction?

I have quite a few in mine.


Dreamscale may flay you.

This is one of the tricky things I'm finding out about this community at Simply Scripts.

On the one hand, big six studio reader quality attention to professional industry detail is enforced by the Simply Script Samurai.

On the other hand, the material reviewed here largely rides the rails through the camp of independent production where strict adherence to studio standards doesn't apply.

It's an interesting mash-up.



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What do you guys think about unfilmables in character's introduction?


It is considered lazy -- at any point in your script -- but the fact that you would ask makes me wonder if you fully understand what you are asking.

A few (lazy) examples to illustrate how (most) readers here will respond to such things:


*  Joe (36) walks down the street and smiles at everyone he meets.  He seems to be a very happy guy.

This is fine.

*  Joe (36) has a very good attitude about life, and smiles at everything.  He is smiling right now.

This treads the line.  Most will not care.  Some will.

*  Joe (36) used to be a cop, but now he is a school teacher, and feels much better about his life.  He is always happy, and really loves his dog, Sparky.

Most will set your script aside at this point.

Learn where to draw the line.


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Mine tends towards the second example.

You know how when you see a person for the first time, you can kinda feel and tell what type of person he/she is? Something that you can tell in addition to what they are wearing and what their hairstyle is.

Can you explain further what I don't understand when I ask that question, please?


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The Simply Script Samurai...damn,I like that!

I don't like unfilmables, though, and I hate asides...which brings up a really good point, that may help.

An unfilmable is an aside, and an aside is an unfilmable.  The 2 are not necessarily the same thing, but they can be, and usually are, IMO.

An unfilmable is exactly what the name implies...something that cannot be filmed, or probably better, something in the script that doesn't transfer to film.

An aside is when the writer wants to show his witty side and write little commentary into the script.  IT is almost always unfilmable in nature, and 100% extremely irritating.

So what are the differences?  Unfilmables are extra information that won't transfer to the filmed version of the script, thus being a waste of space, and also amateurish. Asides are unfilmables purposely placed within the script to show how witty and funny the writer thinks he is, but are actually a waste of space and for me the deathblow to a script.
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Herman I suggest you let us see the "unfilmables" you're talking about.

I have a couple of them.

My examples:

"Their exchange leaves Lee confused. He wrinkles his forehead - it doesn’t make sense - Cole is her husband and entitled to the key."

and

"Cole freezes. A thought registers. He holds his hand out for the knife - he’s ready to do a round of shuffling for the crooked man."

If someone wishes to comment on these please do. I intend to leave them in for the first draft at least though. And then let's see.
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These are unfilmable asides, Khamanna.  The only thing they have going for them is that at least they aren't intended to be witty and humorous.

They should both go for sure, though.

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Howdy, khamanna


Quoted from khamanna
"Their exchange leaves Lee confused. He wrinkles his forehead - it doesn’t make sense - Cole is her husband and entitled to the key."

and

"Cole freezes. A thought registers. He holds his hand out for the knife - he’s ready to do a round of shuffling for the crooked man."


All things considered, if I may be so bold:

Lee looks confused, he wrinkles his forehead.
Up until this point the reader/viewing audience should have been able to figure out crystal clear both A: Cole is her husband and B: he is entitled to the key.
If not, re-work to spoon feed the reader/viewing audience before you get here.

Cole freezes then holds his hand out for the knife.
In the next few lines the reader/audience is about to see Cole shuffling for the crooked man or demonstrate a waiting willingness.
No need to tell people what is about to happen - and then show them.




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What I think about these is:

I'm not sure if I need the first one. Lee is confused hearing Cole's conversation with his wife. I chose to explain why - either I don't trust the reader maybe or I don't trust the moment but I chose to explain why, only because the script is a maze.

The second one: I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. Again, chose to explain what Cole extends his hand for. For the knife. On screen you would understand right away. On paper - I don't know. I'm lazy myself, I like when everything is chewed up nicely and put into my brain.

My script is complicated as is or I wouldn't have them.




Here's a sample of a bad (IMO) aside from my script which I'm planning to scratch today:

"Cole makes a faint sound and it’s obvious that he can talk if he makes an effort."

BAD because he's going to talk next...
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Okay, thanks Dreamscale and Ray.

We all basically agree on the same, I'm just being stubborn on leaving them in
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On second thought I'll probably get rid of the one about the knife too.
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How should dialog to switch attention between two or more other characters?

               NEAL
     (to Dick) That's a nice shirt, Dick. (to Bob)
     You should get one of those. (to Dick)
     Where'd you get this?



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Well, 1 way is like you posted, with wrylies, but it's irritating, wrylies take up an entire line on their own, and the more you use them, the more quickly your script will get tossed.  Also, your first example is redundant as well, as you have a wrylie (to Dick) as well as "Dick" in the actual dialogue.

Another way is through action lines...Dick turns to Neal.

Using a name in actual dialogue is good, as long as it makes sense for the character to address the person that way.

Basically, you don't want to overdo or overuse anything, especially wrylies!.

In a big group of people, stick to what works in reality, and that's using a name of some kind, or using a gesture.



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You could have it this way (IMO)

Neal points toward Dick:
                          NEAL
     That's a nice shirt.
     Hey Bob, you should get one of those.
     Where'd you get this, Dick?

or maybe:

                       NEAL
     Where'd you get this, Dick?
     Hey Bob, you should get one of those.
    

                  




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On unfilmables: if you were sitting in a movie theater and could reasonably write the action lines based only on what you see, then it's filmable. This would completely include inferences from body language. That's what you miss here sometimes, Jeff. A movie is visual and sometimes your unfilmable lines can be conveyed via body language, and they are not always clear from the action.

One that I like from above is "A thought registers." I see this as filmable because you can see on someone's face when a thought registers. It's actually clearer to write it this way than attempt to describe the facial expression that accompanies a registering thought. I don't remember examples, but I know that you've condemned quite a few body language reactions, Jeff.

On the talking if he makes an effort, it's subjective. Is there a better way to say it? Maybe. Can I close my eyes and picture someone's expression if they're feigning being mute? Sure. Can I describe it on paper? Probably not. However, being that descriptive might take away from an actor's interpretation of that facial expression.

As with everything else, it's about being clear about what's going on while sticking to the visual. The human body is a very expressive thing, and part of clarity is letting an actor know how to direct that expression when it isn't clear any other way. If you weren't using dialogue, you'd have to convey a lot using only expressions and body language. Would you find as many unfilmables in a dialogue free script, I wonder?


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Thank you.

My understanding is that the original irritation with wrylies was that it was directors getting annoyed by writers directing from the script.
However, that original sentiment (legitimate or not) has devolved into a generalized reader ethos of "three strikes and you're out" regardless the usage.

For economy's sake, a wryly inserted into dialog saves three lines of page that a "Subject turns to object" would consume. (counting the CHARACTER (cont.) line)

If a limited number of wryly usages does not offend a statistically relevant readership, then I guess I'm okay.
Paradoxically, the more times a character shifts dialog attention between others the greater the need for "Subject turns to Object" and the more lines get needlessly chewed up.

Logic indicates the reverse of this policy/practice.




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Excellent work-arounds, Khamanna.

Sometimes I just simply forget to change the dialog while I figure out how to make "the ridiculous" work.



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The simple rule of thumb regarding wrylies is that if the intent of the wryly is clear from the context, then don't use it. If the intent is not crystal clear (sarcasm being a very, very solid example), then you should indicate that using the wryly. Most of the time, when a writer uses a wryly, it's not necessary since the feelings of the character that they're wanting to convey are clear via the scene or situation they're placed in.


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I have a question (probably the first of many), I think I have it right but I'm not sure. How would you format a scene where the character has a series of quick image flashes in their head. Obviously, with the amnesia problem being in all of our scripts, I'm sure most of us will have our character experience some memories returing at completely random times.  

I have it like this.
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MELISSA HAS QUICK FLASHES

- (here, I list the small things she is remembering like a montage)

BACK TO SCENE
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Is this correct?
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Simply QUICK FLASHES should be suffice. The readers should be able to tell who is having the quick flashes from the context of the scene.

E.g. QUICK FLASHES: A hand chops down an apple.

I'm not too sure about BACK TO SCENE. I've seen them with and without. Anyone else can answer?


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George, I've used the example you gave many times about watching a movie and being able to write down what you see...if the writing includes things that no one would ever write down, then it's an unfilmable, most likely, or just piss poor writing, maybe.

I really don't try and condemn writers and things I find to be unfilmable, but then again, I do come across many, many unfilmables that just shouldn't be included in the script.

Again, George, the example you used here about a thought registering is fine, IMO.  It does stray the line but you're right that writing it this way is probably better than most.

Asides are what really bug me...the ones that are supposed to be witty, intelligent , and funny.  99% of the time, they're not any of the 3.
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How about describing a character "Like Rambo in a suit" or "Her features suggest she's the girl next door type"?


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Ray, keep in mind that there is a big difference between dialogue lines and action lines.  Using wrylies the way you're talking about uses up less space than using action lines, but it also changes the look and flow of the script.

A well written script will have a certain look, meaning dialogue will be broken up by action lines, and vice versa.

Don't get me wrong, I am not against the use of wrylies when they're used sparingly and correctly...much like George was talking about.  You just need to be careful to use them sparingly and properly.
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Herman, writers use such descriptions all the time.  For me, it's a fine line again, and these 2 examples are so cliche, it's almost sickening.

SO, I'd stay away from these exact examples.

I'm sure you can do better!
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Personally, I think the Rambo in a suit is a great description... the other is maybe too cliche, but I suppose anything with girl next door in it will be thought of that way.

I think we're all getting too worked up over the 'rules' and such here. If you look at all the latest spec scripts that have sold and been leaked onto the internet, they are filled with examples of asides and some unfilmables too. Some of those spec sales were first time writers and It didn't do them any harm. I think you'll get away with quite a bit, as long as the script isn't littered with them from first page to last.
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Personally, I think the Rambo in a suit is a great description... the other is maybe too cliche, but I suppose anything with girl next door in it will be thought of that way.

I think we're all getting too worked up over the 'rules' and such here. If you look at all the latest spec scripts that have sold and been leaked onto the internet, they are filled with examples of asides and some unfilmables too. Some of those spec sales were first time writers and It didn't do them any harm. I think you'll get away with quite a bit, as long as the script isn't littered with them from first page to last.


Oh, yes. And check out Buried - it's literally littered with them although I wouldn't use this many, not even one fiftieth of what's in it. But yeah, little easy on the rules - I'd love that!
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The ol' unfilmmable thing is something I've got hot under my collar about in the past. It's not worth worrying about from a screenwriters point of view. The industry seems to actively prefer it (asides and such make the script more fun and therefore you are more likely to get good coverage and therefore a sale).

The reality of them from my point of view as a filmmaker is very different. I absolutely can't abide them. 100% of the time they guarantee that the script is better than the film. If you look at the Crazies script thread this issue arose about a description of a house. In the script a guy burns down a house that was described as belonging to his grandfather...it gave the on page story a high level of emotional resonance. I would encourage people to watch the same scene in the film and see how these kind of things translate....make your own mind up.

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-looking/m-1253400247/s-new/.

It's a simple fact of the medium that information has to be either shown or told. Abstract thoughts can not be imparted in the same way that literature does it. Too often writers tend to write vivid, interesting descriptions of characters then forget to make them say or do anything to back those up. Too often writers hide histories and emotional depth in descriptions and fail to present scenes where these things are actually shown or revealed to the audience.

The most common mistake in this vein I see is in comedy scripts where all the humour is hidden in the descriptions rather than in the dialogue, or in the action.

I once read a script that made me laugh out loud, but all of the humour was unfilmmable.

Eg At the start a woman enters a guys apartment. The description of the place said: It looks like he hired a monk as an interior decorator.

I thought it was quite funny. But think about if it's funny on screen...all it will be is a sparse set with minimal furniture. It won't even register and certainly won't be funny.

On the other hand if she enters and says: "Nice place...did a monk decorate it?". The same thought is suddenly translated to the screen.

..but like I say, it's not worth overly worrying about.

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Rick, great examples here!  I'm in 100% agreement with you and your position here.

Let me say 1 more thing about this and I'll let it die...

Many things work in a script.  Many more don't.
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How about describing a character "Like Rambo in a suit" or "Her features suggest she's the girl next door type"?


Not that I want to revive the aside talk again - we pretty much agreed on the rules etc. But I honestly didn't know these were asides. Are they?

"Like Rambo in a suit" is a description.

"Her features suggest she's the girl next door type" is the same as saying "plain features, she's the girl next door type".

I think everybody says/uses these all the time.
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Hi guys   sorry to pop in on the interesting discusssion. I just had a thought about a possible unfilmables.

You know how you intro the characters in a script with their names, age, etc. Ok, thisis all goood for a reader but when you'r viewing a film, should the writer take extra care to bring out a characters name? Does that make sense?

Cos when you think about it, you could watch a film and not know the name of a certain char, unless the writer specifically has dialogue or a sign or whatever to show the name.
I had this thought just now while mopping the floor...



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Characters have to be properly intro'd, and that includes a name.  You're right, many times, you never know what a character's name actually is, but that's due to poor writing, or the fact that it doesn't matter.
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Cheers buddy.  Yeah, I guess if the name matters, it'll be brought up quick smart.

You guys were talking about wrylies before? The advice you gave me, Jeff, was only to use them if if was to do with the manner of talking, eg - (whispers) (yells) etc. a
Anything else should be an action line.

The unfilmables discussion? Rambo in a suit is technically one, but it evokes the instant image in the readers's mind. Again, it depnds on whther the script is spec or not, I spose.



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Yeah, "Rambo in a suit" is definitely a description.  I'm not saying it's not filmable or valid.  I'm just saying, to me, it's rather weak, as it invokes many different possibilities.

Is it referring to a short Italian guy, ranging in age from 36 (Stallone in First Blood - 1982) to 62 (Stallone in Rambo - 200?  Does it mean the guy is ripped the shreds, and has scars all over his back?  Long, haired, ex-military type?  Badass, gun wielding freak of nature?  What?
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My script is all in flashbacks. It starts with the amnesiac and closes on him remembering the last clue. I don't know if it's right to have flashbacks throughout. Any thoughts? It doesn't read right - that's for sure.
In the second act he does something to remember - there's some non-flashback action but I don't know if it's enough. I want to change it but can't think of a way...
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Khamanna, Flashbacks are fine.  Cool, even.  I've got a SHITLOAD of 'em.

BUT, I think you need to also have action taking place in the present time.  Without it, you're looking at action that already all took place.

Think about Benjamin Button.  That movie is basically all in Flashback, other than the hospital scenes with the mother and daughter.  Those scenes were also powerful and very important to the overall story.
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Benjamin Button, right. I'll read this one. Thanks.
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OK, peeps, kick-ass day of writing for this kid.

On page 50 now, and humming along.  Had to reread everything, as I hadn't touched it since Friday.  Edited out some mistakes, added a new character and tiny subplot, and wrote a ton of new scenes.

Really happy with the progress, but still behind where I'd like to be by now.  Oh well, I'll be fine.  If I can get to page 70 or so by Friday, I'll be golden, as I know everything that is still to come.  My big set piece is only a few scenes away now, and that will fill up a bunch of pages.

Assuming I get done, it will be down to the wire, though.  Thankfully, it's well edited already, and I've read the first 40 pages or so at least 5 times already (the first 25 pages have been read at least 10 times now).  That seems to be the way I roll.

How's everyone else coming along?  Am I in last place in terms of pages?  Probably am.  Oh well...I think it's going to ROCK!  Maybe I need to get Balt to give it a read...
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Great Jeff! I'm excited for you!

I still haven't read my first draft. I will try tomorrow...I HATE rewriting!!!!


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You are definitely not last, page 13 here.


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Ah...cool!  I feel better, then.

Herman, I thought you were much further along.  Did you scrap earlier progress and start over?  We've still got 2 1/2 weeks, so we can all get there!

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Nah, I just write slow. I plan to write 5 pages per day (if possible), and that'll give me around 120 pages if I submit it on the last day.

Yeah, that's right. No time for rewrite at all. I feel very sorry for the people reading mine.


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That's how I felt about the llast 7wc, but all the comments made me rewrite in a hurry! It's all good.  


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Mine will be clocking in between 90 and 97 pages...most likely.  Lean, mean beast of a machine.
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On the naming of characters, given the fact that this challenge involves memory loss, I'm actually saving names until someone states the name. My main character at the halfway point is still only referred to as MAN in every instance. We don't know his name, and no one is telling it. He's not even given a "JOE." He's just MAN. Even the leading lady is just WOMAN for 3 pages before she tells her own name. Normally, though, I give the name right out and have a character state it ASAP.


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Overall pages 31. Pages that I have written and edited 9. My method of writing is weird (similar to my story concepts.)

At this point I'm just trying to keep moving forward.


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Stalled out a bit the past few days, but going to pick it up this afternoon.


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How many characters do you guys have?

I'm on page 20 and introduced 8 important characters already.


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I have 5 important ones throughout the 100 pages.

What are your character's names like? Did you guys go for simple English names or did you go with something entirely different?


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Simple. Just thought it's more relatable.


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I have my list of re-used names I do over and over. If I ever need a name, though, for a minor character, I just pick someone from the 1983 Buffalo Bills. Don't ask why. It's an inside joke.

EDIT: Finishing this on time will be almost impossible. Three days ago, I came up with a low-budget time travel (not Primer low budget) script which much of my time has been dedicated to.


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I have 15 speaking characters: 3 main, 7 supporting, the rest is line here and there.
All simple English names and only one is Chinese. Some have no name - MAN, NURSE...
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What MPAA rating do you thing your story garners?
Does it teeter on an edge between two?
If you wanted to shove it from one to the other what would you add or subtract?
Who would a few good directors be?

For mine:
Likely PG-13,
Possibly an R
Cut language to center in PG-13 or add graphic violence & nudity for R.
Ridley Scott, Peter Berg or Antoine Fuqua.


Characters? 3 main, a dozen seconds.

Names? I pull a wikipedia "List of blah blah blah" and just search for a combination till something works. Especially for ethnic names. Studio/producer/director is going to change it anyway, so I don't get to impassioned with names.



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So far, I have 19 speaking parts.  I think there will be about 24 in total. Of those, 6 are main characters, and 8 only speak a few times.  The remaining 5 or 6 characters will all be the kind that only speaks a few times at the most.

Many of my characters do not have normal, common names, but that's based on the setting, and for the setting, the names are common.  Does that make sense?
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Many of my characters do not have normal, common names, but that's based on the setting, and for the setting, the names are common.  Does that make sense?


Yes.
Location, location, location.

Mike, Bob and Pete were performing their sitar number in the 12th century Indian temple.

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Total characters: 6. 3 are main. But I still have a couple more to introduce


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Exactly...

Mine will be R rated, but not nearly as graphic as most of my stuff.  I was actually shooting for a PG 13 rating, but decided early on it wasn't gonna be any fun, so out came the F bombs, full frontal nudity, shower and pool sex, and a little old fashioned graphic violence.
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How... detail conscious should I be?

When identifying an AR15 in an action line, should I PROVIDE the technically correct name of "AR15 carbine" when I really do mean a AR15 carbine?

Or should I use the much more generally recognized term "AR15 rifle" simply because AR15 rifle "reads better" than AR15 carbine even though it's less than accurate?

Thank you

(Edit: previously in the script I'm specifying a Predator SRAW anti-tank missile and that the FBI agent is using a Glock 22 [that's a model number, not caliber, BTW]. So, I don't know if because a precedent has been set to keep with it or what.)




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Well...does it really matter whether or not it's an AR15 anything?  Do you think your audience will relate to what an AR15 is?  I sure wouldn't.
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I go with write whatever you want, because at the current moment, it's yours. I specify guns and cars in my scripts, too, because it is actually an important detail.


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It's a reader thing at this point.
Not an audience.

So... as a reader YOU don't care, right?

AR15 rifle.
AR15 carbine.
M16.
Machine gun.
You don't care, right?

I draw clear distinctions between the reader, the producer/director and the audience.

I'm most familiar with being in the audience, and as such, when I see directors directing actors to do preposterous things my "suspension of disbelief" comes crashing down.
Hot wiring cars.
Picking locks.
Cocking revolvers.
All of these things irritate me just like unfilmables irritate you.

>> Do you think your audience will relate to what an AR15 is?  I sure wouldn't. <<
So, the question I'm seeking an answer for is specific to readers rather than an audience.

I know my screenplay's demographic audience knows the public does not have access to M16s but does have access to AR15s.

I know a director worth his salt will know this and will go to great lengths to simply use the correct props.

However, I do not know if a reader will have his or her eye snag on:

         Bob grabs the AR15 tactical rifle instead of the AK57.

vs

         Bob grabs the AR15 tactical carbine instead of the AK57

... when I know eventually the director would run across it.

(And if anyone catches that deliberate error in those lines that'll just be proof of what I'm talking about.)

Top: AR15 rifle with the longer barrel
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I tend to agree with Blonde.  I just wouldn't get too detailed in your descriptions.  Guess it all comes down to how often you're giving out these details and how important they actually are to the story/plot.
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Fair enough.

Thank you, gentlemen.



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Com'on Blonde, you can finish it on time! How many pages have you written? I bet more than me.


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Com'on Blonde, you can finish it on time! How many pages have you written? I bet more than me.


Still on 11.


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Maybe you can just finish your Act I and have us take a look?


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I could, but I'm really getting into the one I mentioned. And, that one has to stay in my head because it's a really easy write so long as I remember it.

However, to just make you feel better, I came up with a new plan. Being that it's action lines that trip me up, I've decided to skip them for the moment. No, I'm not crazy. I mention location changes and write little asides to remind myself that actions bring about the dialogue I just wrote. Works so far. Page 16 in 13 minutes.


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Actually, I have a similar problem. I know how the scene goes, the starting point and the end point, but I have a hard time writing descriptions and realistic dialogue.

Any help?


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OK, that's progress.  Some days are better than others, as long as you keep at it!  We can all complete this and have a nice, feature length script under our belts that we wouldn't have had.

Good progress for me today, again (for me, at least).  On page 53 now and got through a tough part and provided some huge revelations.  First big set piece is just around the corner now, so I can't wait to get to it and crank out 10 pages, as I know it will run about that length.

Gunning for page 70 by Friday (was hoping for 55 by today, though).

Pia, you re-read yours yet and start on the rewrite finally?  C'mon peeps!  Let's do this!!!
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Page 23 right now, hoping to end my Act I soon. But I think it'll be closer to page 30.

This is the longest screenplay I have ever written, BTW. I have only written shorts, but never a feature.


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No I haven't Jeff, but I'm not really worried either. I'm one of those 11th hour type people.  


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Herman, that's cool!  You can do it, bud.  I know you can.  Think how proud you'll be when you complete your first feature!

Pia, I hear ya.  I'd rather not be the 11th hour guy, but I may be here.  I really want to get done with at least a few days to spare, so I can fix it up where needed.  At least, I'm on the back side now and things are easier than harder, since I know exactly where everything's going now.

How many completed scripts are we going to have by Saturday, 9/4?  Count me as 1!!!!
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I have a question... Do you guys want to do some kind of exchange beforehand or are you all okay with posting first drafts?

I've got someone to read mine first, but he's not entering so he doesn't have anything for me to read. I'd be happy to read someone else's


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Let's post 'em!  Mine will not be a first draft.  It will be ready and rocking like Frost Bite!

CHOMP!  CHOMP!  CHOMP!
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Let's post 'em!  Mine will not be a first draft.  It will be ready and rocking like Frost Bite!


You're not going to become this year's Baltis, Jeff? Shame because I was actually interested in reading his last year because it was written the same way mine was.


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What happened with Baltis's script last year?


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What happened with Baltis's script last year?


I forget how it went exactly but it was a 7WC like this one. And, Baltis had this idea which I believe he said he had done by the end of the second week and polished by the fourth. And, he really talked it up, as he does, it's his style but then he disappeared and didn't show up again for a while. I think someone posted that he had a baby (not he, but you know what I mean) and it took up his time but I never got to see that script and I was really disappointed. One of my favorite types of scripts are inter-locking stories. The old posts for it are still in this section actually. Try going back to page 3 or 4. Should be around there somewhere.

EDIT: I stand corrected. It's still on page 1.


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Pia, I'd love to exchange mine but I have to work on it some more otherwise the logic is off at places. Also I need to edit - it's blah grammar right now.

I'm planning and planning to get to the rewrite but like yourself - I don't like rewrites... I keep postponing them. If I know that I have to get it ready in two days I would start though.

Maybe make a commitment for the exchange?
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Blonde!  HaHa!  I am the Baltis, I am the eggman, I am ME!

Funny...yeah, I know, me too., I was looking forward to old Balt's script, as I was with the nonexistent Frost Bite.

Don't worry, I'm not going to disappear.  No baby coming over here.  I'm in the for the long haul, and I will be done on time, and it will be ready.
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Khamanna,

How about you send me yours 1week before deadline? That will give you 5-6 days for at least some adjustments.


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That's would be great! Thanks. You can send me yours if you like too. Anytime. If you want to.
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Funny...yeah, I know, me too., I was looking forward to old Balt's script, as I was with the nonexistent Frost Bite.


Well, I can't really blame him because I didn't get mine done last year either. Although, I didn't talk mine up and God damn Final Draft kept deleting it. I still actually work on it and am 60 pages in. Just can't get around to the final 30 or so. =(

And, yes, it was funny in a big, fat, tall, Chinaman with red hair-kind of a way.


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Close to finishing my first act. Going to finish it today. Wrote 21 pgs, and total 33. Keep chugging along.


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Remember, I pulled out of that 7WC also...but I did it early on, and way before I ever wrote anything.  I had issues, as I always seem to.  BUT, even though I still am having issues, it won't stop me from completing this classic!  Sorry about the talkin' it up, I just can't help myself.  It's the Balt in ME!
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After a slight hiatus, I got mine up to page 50 last night with a bizarre reversal that should confuse the crap out of everyone except writers who tend to guess the ending at page 1 anyway. 40 minimum to go, and I'm shooting for that to take exactly 4 days. I know once I get the slow reveals out of the way, the story should flow smoothly through the climax and out.


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Sweet, George.  Way to go.  We're about even now, then.  You caught me, damnit!

I need to get to at least page 60 by the end of the day.  I think I can do it.  Got to start cranking it out!
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You guys are monsters. I think it's only me and Ripley who aren't even half way done.


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Pia and Khamanna are the monster freaks who are already done, somehow.

We're all going to get there, though.
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Cathy said she finished the second draft even.

First drafts are easy. It's going back to rewrite that is hard. Will do though.  

C'mon guys, you can do it!!  


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You guys are monsters. I think it's only me and Ripley who aren't even half way done.


I fit in that group, too, sadly. I'm going to continue going the action-less route today, though. It worked yesterday and I had less time than I do today. =)


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It's funny how movies are always seen as a visual medium, and in theory, we should understand what's going on without turning on the sound.

Now you're trying the other way around. Sound only!


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First drafts are easy. It's going back to rewrite that is hard. Will do though.  


I'm the opposite, Pia. The first draft is the hardest for me. Once I have that done, it's easy for me to go back and logically critique it. The first drafts of my novels took months, but rewriting was a piece of cake, even when it was work. Now the hard part is figuring out how to fix a major problem because you're right back to first drafting an entire new section to fix it.


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YES! Finally finished my Act I at page 30. Now the dreaded Act II starts....


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YES! Finally finished my Act I at page 30. Now the dreaded Act II starts....


Save yourself some grief. Just skip to act III. Forget about plot and all that other bullshit. It's not worth the effort it takes to go through act II.


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Save yourself some grief. Just skip to act III. Forget about plot and all that other bullshit. It's not worth the effort it takes to go through act II.


That's what I did - got first and third, then second, then rewrote the third. Easier this way. Unfortunately everytime I stick my nose into the script I understand that it should be rewritten. Both second and third.

I say why to write if you need to rewrite. Why can't we skip to 'rewrite' right away...
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On page 20. My amnesiac main character is becoming less friendly by the minute.

He killed one guy, tortured another then killed them. Now, he's threatened to kill a cab driver, his family, his pets, his boss and anyone whom he's ever had as a fare because he couldn't pay the $13 fare.

I'm going to have to make my guy redeem himself eventually, I think.


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That will be alot of redeeming!  Wow, look forward to it.

I agree with George, the first draft is the hardest...the re-tinkering and fixing, is the easy part.  I think it's even easier coming up with the story/plot, than first writing it all down.

About to get started for the day...
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Great to hear all of you writing.

I actually like mine...I'll probably get slammed for it once people start reading it though.  

My guy keeps having blackouts and when he wakes up he finds dead women in his apartment. How this happens I will not tell.  


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Can't wait to read it, Pia!  Sounds great.  Is there some necrophilia in your script?  I certainly hope there is!

Still no corpses, explosions, or chase scenes in mine.
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My guy keeps having blackouts and when he wakes up he finds dead women in his apartment. How this happens I will not tell.  


Oh, don't tell me you're doing the Cigarette Burns thing... Come on, that was one of the worst "Deus Ex Machina" moments ever.

Guy is tied to a chair with another guy standing over him with a machete. One of those flash things happen and all of a sudden, the guy is untied and the machete guy is dead. It's one of those things, Pia... =(


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I have no idea what Cigarette Burns is, but from your short description, it doesn't sound anything like it.

Jeff, I'm not doing horror here!  


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Nothing wrong with a little necrophilia?

I have no idea what Cigarette Burns means either.
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It's an episode from Masters of Horror, a short-lived show of 1-hour movies. One of them had a sequence like the one I described, and it seemed like what Pia was describing.


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I liked Masters of Horror, but I don't remember that one at all.
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I liked Masters of Horror, but I don't remember that one at all.


It was John Carpenter's first. =) My favorite director, but it was bad writing.


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Can I just use "cell" for "cell phone", or do I gotta write:

  Bob opens his cell phone, blabs a bit then puts it down to pop a cap in Joe's a$$.

  Bob picks up Joe's cell phone and thumbs down his contacts list as he walks away.





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After a slow start, I CRANKED!  Page 62!  Yes!  Even implemented a chase scene.

The plot is thickening.  Loving it!  AAAYYEEE!!!!!!!
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Cathy said she finished the second draft even.

First drafts are easy. It's going back to rewrite that is hard. Will do though.  

C'mon guys, you can do it!!  


oh.... I'm redoing big portions... I'm now back to page 26, got a long way to go.
Also, going through a strange "disconnect" with my characters... maybe a good night's sleep will help...
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Good to hear from you Cathy! Great work.

Great work on you too Jeff.

I'm on page 20 of the first rewrite.

I'm very unhappy with uninteresting dialogue at a restaurant between my protag Harley and his future in-laws. I don't know what the heck lawyers talk about...  


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I'm very unhappy with uninteresting dialogue at a restaurant between my protag Harley and his future in-laws. I don't know what the heck lawyers talk about...  


I like dialogue. And, your lawyers are people, too (sort of). You know, they have regular conversations, especially when they're working. The last thing they usually want to talk about is their caseload. =)


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And, your lawyers are people, too (sort of).


What's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute?
The hooker will stop screwing you after your dead.

Couldn't resist the lawyer joke...

Did a little backtracking today...brought back a few characters that I had killed off.(Body count still at 5)...still have a few plot holes that need to be plugged before I jump into the final push... On page 66.

Everyone is writing...hitting the woodshed - Excellent!


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I have problems with dialogue as well. Sometimes you want the characters to say something important to the storyline but it just came off as unnatural.


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I'm very unhappy with uninteresting dialogue at a restaurant between my protag Harley and his future in-laws. I don't know what the heck lawyers talk about...  


Themselves, of course. Good time to build a little character in crap you can't show, like personal histories. Or you could talk about cheeseburgers. You know, whatever.


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I have problems with dialogue as well. Sometimes you want the characters to say something important to the storyline but it just came off as unnatural.


That's when you go for the metaphor to get your point across without saying it. While it might still come off a bit odd, it won't sound like exposition if you do it right.


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Thanks for the advice, George. Now I gotta brush up on metaphors.

Actually, metaphor is a type of subtext, right?


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A metaphor is a indirect comparison of one image to another, but often the listener is expected to supply what the metaphor is referencing. Some of the most famous metaphors are the parables of Jesus where he had a habit of insulting the hell out of the Pharisees under their noses. He even managed to one-up them (more than once) by asking them questions about his stories and they wisely gave him the answer just before realizing that they zinged themselves in doing so. Whatever your opinion of Jesus, from a literary perspective, the metaphorical parables in context are pure genius. This differs from a simile where the actual comparison point is supplied using "like" or "as".

So where a simile might tell someone that his head is like a melon, a metaphor would describe a particular melon that the listener would easily grasp that the guy's head is being referenced.

In some stories, the subplot (which will often complete before the main one) turn out to be a metaphor of the main plot, mirroring the fate of the hero.


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How are you guys doing?  Two weeks left.

I'm on page 42 of the rewrite. 2 pages have been added so far. I still have the biggest changes ahead so it's been easy until now.


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No additional pages written for me today, but I did reread what I've got twice, and made a few minor corrections/deletions/and additions.  I was worried I was getting ahead of myself and wanted to pull back and make sure what I have is what I want...and it appears to be.

The finger is pointing in numerous directions and I really feel like my mystery is well thought out.  This is definitely Frost Bite Part II - The Golden Years

I'll be at a Fair all day tomorrow, so no progress on the immediate horizon.  2 weeks is cool.  For some reason, I thought it was down to only 1, so I started cranking.  We're good.

Where's everyone else?  And, how many completed scripts will ew have, 1 week from tomorrow?
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I'm going to read Khamanna's next week I assume. I'm sending mine to Phil as soon as the first rewrite is done. Hopefully by MOnday.

Anyone else want a read before posting?


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P45 of the rewrite but will need to edit before sending it to you. It's now 84 pages total and 'growing" - as soon as I stopped watching the page count... I'm editing as I go too but want to give it another read.
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Where's everyone else?  And, how many completed scripts will ew have, 1 week from tomorrow?


0. Still, that is.


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Anyone else want a read before posting?


Well, the last few pages are really rough as I haven't bothered revising the minimal actions lines so I wouldn't stop. But, if you're offering, I'll fix them up and we can see if you'd like to, for me.


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Page 38 here, and I just broke my own record for the longest dialogue-less pages. The action-only sequence took 3 pages.

I don't think anyone can read mine before posting. I'm lucky to have my first draft finished on time.


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You'll get there, Herman.  Keep at it.

Our posted scripts will get all the feedback we need.  If they're unpolished, that's understandable...we did them from inception in 7 weeks!  You know?

Don't worry about it, just get 'em done!

So, we've got Pia, Khamanna, CM Hall, me, and...that's 4 so far.  George?  Blonde?  Wolffe?  How many scripts?
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I already said. Zero. There's no chance of me finishing this on time, unpolished or otherwise. I'm basically just trying to get as much done as I can before my mind completely moves onto something else I'll never finish.


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OK, Sean.  That's OK.  Just trying to fire us all up. No problem.

4, then...so far. What about Brian?
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Even if some of you only make it through half way, I want you to know that the goal is to finish a feature so if you don't make the deadline, we'll still be here to help if you need us.  

Unlike my last 7WC, I doubt anyone is going to be so turned off that they can't comment or even leave the boards. I personally see nothing offensive about mine. I would also call it a fairly low budget. Most of it takes place in an apartment building.


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I'm pretty sure I can finish on time if I make every day count. I'm not promising it will be any good, but I'm sure I can get it done anyway.

I've read over some of the pages I've written and I'm far from happy but if all goes to plan, I'll have a few days to fix them.
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Still moving...Started a new job on Wednesday, which is good but took some time for writing out of the equation...Gonna do it, though. Hope to get alot done this weekend...

It's still looking like a R, mainly for the bloody results of the sinister plot. Could be a low budget if they hired no-name actors and spent the rest on blowing up the two buildings. It's definitly a thriller at the core, with some horror/action/adventure elements in the mix.

Hope it will be fun to read.

And Pia, thanks for crackin' the whip and getting us up from the couch and on task.

A little organized inspiration can go a long way.


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I'm having a hard time keeping the first half of ACT II (interrogation by an organized crime group) PG-13 like the story in ACT I and the rest of the screenplay.

My instincts tell me when a story steps up from PG-13 gun fights and car chases to disturbing rated R implications of impending torture (I think I can pull it off without actually making it a gory blood bath) but then drops back down to PG-13 run & gun that that isn't good.

Should I sacrifice intensity for consistancy, or "screwit": Make the audience squirm for a dozen pages?

TY

PS, Dreamscale. Good news. I think I've gotten it through my thick skull the diff between a shooting script and spec script. Wish me luck! Thank you for the beatings.



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I'm having a hard time keeping the first half of ACT II (interrogation by an organized crime group) PG-13 like the story in ACT I and the rest of the screenplay.

My instincts tell me when a story steps up from PG-13 gun fights and car chases to disturbing rated R implications of impending torture (I think I can pull it off without actually making it a gory blood bath) but then drops back down to PG-13 run & gun that that isn't good.

Should I sacrifice intensity for consistancy, or "screwit": Make the audience squirm for a dozen pages?

TY


A reference point for me would be the scene in the interrogation room in The Dark Knight. Batman slams the Joker's head against the table, repeatedly punches him...it's not a gory blood-bath, but I wouldn't say it lacks intensity. And that was a PG-13 (questionably). If you don't dwell on the physical effects of the beating - blood, broken bones, the guy crying or screaming, etc. - I think you can have both. It's doesn't all have to be Scarface chainsaws in the bath tub.



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My constant reference point for violence is the James Bond novels (not the movies). In the books, Bond consistently has the snot beat out of him. And not just by the bad guys. Everything he goes through just pummels him, and he keeps trucking. I had a couple of scenes where I pondered how far to take them, so I took them just a bit further than most movies do. Threat of a finger dislocation? Go ahead and dislocate it. Beat the woman for information? Don't stop there, slam her head again for good measure...but don't kill her. That's the thing. Torture works because you feel the pain and you know they still do too. Killing them takes away the pain and where's the fun in that. I killed off a couple secondary characters, but one keeps living through it. My lead hasn't taken a beating in awhile, and it's high time he gets some blood drawn.


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page 70 of the first rewrite. Having some continuity problems that need to be taken care of!


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Action sequences are so hard and long to write! Took me the entire day just to write 5 pages.


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Where's everyone else? Page 48 here.

Just finished writing two major action sequences. Going back to some dialogue-heavy scenes.


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Trying to get to page 70 by the end of the day.

I blew my back out again lat last week, and have been in alot of pain with very little movement.  I think it's beginning to get a little better.  SUCKS getting old!
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Hope you'll get better Jeff!

I was busy yesterday, so I'm still at page 70 of the first rewrite.  


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I don't think I've been drinking enough to completely numb the pain.  I'll try harder.
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How old are you, Jeff?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. Just saw it on your profile page.

Hope you're getting better.


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I've made some progress, just about to hit page 70 and I've written some scenes I'm really happy with. I'll definitely make the deadline. Still no title or logline yet, I haven't really thought about them to be honest.

Hope you're feeling better, Jeff. Back pain the the worst thing ever. My back gives me a lot of trouble now, I don't think I want to know what it will be like when I hit my 40's.
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Thanks Brian.  You're right, back pain is the worst!  Completely debilitating.

I've actually had back trouble as long as I can remember.  I remember playing football as a kid, and my back was so bad that I'd literally have to jog/limp out on a pattern, and then hope to use my height to catch the pass, while double covered.  Probably should have been resting the old back when it was that bad.  Also, have had a lot of ski injuries over the years.  MY Mom's back is the same way...every now and then, it just goes, and leaves us almost crippled for 3 or 4 days.

I'm 47, but I remember it being just as bad at times in my early 30's.

I'm having trouble sitting and typing today. I don't know if I'm  going to make much progress today.

Keep it going everyone!  We'll get there!
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Did anyone count how many times they used the word, "remember"?


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I'm on page 70, so I made my goal for the day.

So far, I've got the word remember in there 21 times!  Damn, alot of them are in dialogue.

The first death scene!  So very sad...so touching...so emotional...
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I even have a sentence in my script "I don't remember, remember?"
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I used the word Remember 21 times as well, although I'm only page 55.

Most of them are in dialogue, but not in the context of remembering what happens before having amnesia. It's more like misplacing something and a character says, "I don't remember where I put it."


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My lines are like, "I didn't remember how fucking hot you were, baby."
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I think I used that word only aa couple of times.

I'm on page 85 of the first rewrite and I'm finding lots of inconsistencies...  


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My favorite line was "Don't forget to remember," but my wife thought it was stupid. Oh well.

I'm still on page 53, but I went back and tweaked the last scene I had written from two guys talking in a nice, clean office situation, to one of them tied up between two alley walls and the other one walking around whipping him a few times during the same conversation. I think it makes it a little more interesting.

I just need to do 10 pages per day and I'll have a week to at least review it for content. I think I'll make it just fine. Not bad for zero planning, actually. I'm still kind of writing from the hip, though I've worked out the character details and the ending.


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Good job, George!  Keep at it.  Anything with a guy whipping another guy in an alley has potential for sure.

Pia, you'll get through your inconsistencies.  Maybe you need a few more corpses popping up around the apartment?

My script seems pretty weak compared to everyone else's.  Very tame, to say the least.  I've only had 1 onscreen death through 70 pages, if you can believe that.  But I do have that shower sex scene with the deer, rays, and Hobie Cats that will hopefully make up for the lack of violence.

I'm shooting for 8 pages today, and first draft completed by Thursday night.
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You're a beast. How do you guys write so fast?

Mine is probably the tamest. No death at all, maybe even for the entire script.


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For me, I didn't plan and just listened to what the characters wanted to do. As a result, I'm kinda chugging through it. I'm starting to think too much, which is slowing me down a little. I'll also say experience can play into it. I've written 50 or 60 scripts and a couple novels. Another 90 pages is no big hurdle.

Mine has some deaths, but at the same time, I'm going more for gratuitous violence. I'm beating the crap outta my lead. Of course, no one in my little tale is a saint.


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I've got a total of 5 deaths, 3 completely nude characters engaged in sexual acts (1 man, 2 women, but the man is nude in 2 scenes), 1 hot topless woman, unlimited F Bombs and sexual slangs, heavy drinking, cocaine use and references, 3 brutal fights, 1 rape scene, a family of deer, several small rays, 2 Hobie Cats, 2 dolphins, and a bunch of monkeys running amok.

When I put it that way, it doesn't sound as tame, I guess...but for my standards, it is rather tame.
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I've got one confused guy only known as Man, a bunch of thugs who are only called Hoods (all of whom die), a gang boss, two women, a couple car crashes, one abandoned car, a corpse, a sex scene caught on video with carefully placed shadows, Marco Polo's Golden Tablet of Authority, and a syringe full of a nerve agent.

I meant for the end to sound a bit weird.

Oh yes, and one cliche opening scene of a guy waking up to find said corpse.


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I only have 3 dead women and 1 fight...

When I went through my rewrite I noticed a bunch of inconsistencies. I'm working on those now then it's off to Phil for some punishment!  


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Pia!  Only 3 dead bodies?  I thought you had tons and tons of corpses showing up everywhere.  Where'd they go?

Maybe mine isn't as tame as I'm thinking.

Don't worry, Pia, I'll give you all the punishment you want and more when you post it.  

I'm looking forward to a little punishment of my own, come 9/4...or more realistically, the following week.

Hey, are these going to get their own little section, or what?
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I can't wait to read these!  
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They didn't last time. I wouldn't figure them to this time, either.


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No deaths here, no much violence, no sex safe one peck on a cheek.

Not many women either, only two and couple of nurses. It's mostly cops running around, looking for someone, actually it's mostly one guy remembering the cops running around...

It's pretty boring perhaps but wait! I'll try my best at editing - that should make up for a boring story
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I have on on-screen death and a few dead bodies showing up but nothing major. I've finally caved and added a few flashback scenes as I really want to show how my characters acted towards each other before the accident.

I'm also worrying that my story might be on the boring side. Still time to fix that.
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Don't worry too much about your scripts quality. All of them will be less than perfect. That's what the comments and suggestions you will get are for. To help you polish it into something good you can be proud of.  


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American Mafia armed to the teeth.
Mexican Mafia armed to the teeth.
Drug traffickers armed to the teeth.
Street gangs armed to the teeth.
And some guy in a charcoal SUV, not on anyone's radar, haulin' some serious hardware.
Moles/rats.
Everyone's on the take.
FBI do-gooder
Paramedics doin' their job.
DA doin' his job.
Police doin' their job.

And one very confused man trying to figure out who he is and why everyone is out to kill him.

Everyone thinks he's full of bull when he says "I... I can't remember."



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Quoted from Dreamscale
I've got a total of 5 deaths, 3 completely nude characters engaged in sexual acts (1 man, 2 women, but the man is nude in 2 scenes), 1 hot topless woman, unlimited F Bombs and sexual slangs, heavy drinking, cocaine use and references, 3 brutal fights, 1 rape scene, a family of deer, several small rays, 2 Hobie Cats, 2 dolphins, and a bunch of monkeys running amok.

When I put it that way, it doesn't sound as tame, I guess...but for my standards, it is rather tame.


I thought you were writing a fictional script, buddy, not your autobiography.




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You gotta write what you know, right?

Anyways, I'm on page 76 now,and I started the big scene I've been looking forward to.  It's the beginning of the big reveal, and also the first really big set piece and it's filled with terror, rape, a brutal fight, F Bombs galore, and possibly a good old killing...we'll see.

This should take me through page 83 or so, then I've got a few pages of lead in to the finale, and then, drum roll please...the big finale!  Should end up right around 93-97 pages, like I planned.

I should be finished with the first draft by Thursday night, as I'll be out of town all day Friday, through Saturday evening.

I think I have Frost Bite Fever!!!!!  AAAAYYYEEE!!!!
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Page 63 here. Finally more than half way done.

I'm starting to worry my script will be overly long.


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Page 63 here. Finally more than half way done.

I'm starting to worry my script will be overly long.


No such thing as an overly long first draft. Better to have too much than too little.


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Right on, George!  I'd much rather have to remove unnecessary things and clean up orphans, remove words here and there to save a line, etc, then have to ad significant events.

I was initially worried mine was going to be too short, but it looks like it's exactly on schedule.

Page 79 now!!!!  1/2 way through my big scene.  I've also added another animal, and 4 more characters (3 named).  Really happy with it so far, and it's been edited already, so I don't see too much work on the rewrite at all.
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I'm on page 68. I went ahead and wrote the ending since I had it worked out. Ten pages from one end to the other. Trouble is that I now have to fill 20-25 pages with something between page 57 and the end.


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I was worried about mine being too short. And it was when I was done with it but it seems to never stop expanding. I already cut off on dialog but it's at 89 pages...(when initially it was only 75) and I still need to add one more scene to plug another plot hole.
I think the main thing to think of is - is the story on the thin side. If it's not - you're covered, you'll find what to write about eventually, I think.
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Made it through the first days at my new job,  first two days of Grad School and am somewhat struggling to find any brain cells that have not been claimed by family to dedicate to finishing this draft...


Failure is only the opportunity to begin again more intelligently - Dove Chocolate Wrapper
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C'mon, Wolfe!  You can do it.  How far along are you, page-wise?  And far along are you in terms of knowing exactly where it goes?

Page 87 now.  Just got through my big set piece and I'm happy to report that it fucking ROCKS!!!!

Another animal has been intro'd...maybe I should title "The Zoo".
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I'm in 68 pages...most of the way through Act 2 and needing to wrap things up to set up Act 3...Spent some time today chewing on it; just need to put it on paper...

The Zoo sounds good; reminds me of the old Scorpions song...



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LOVE the Scorps and The Zoo!  Incredible band and song.  SWEET!

Page 89. The finale looms in front of me.  All the loose ends are coming together for one MONSTROUS showdown.  All is about to be revealed.  AAAAYYYEEE!!!!

Wolfe, you're there, bud.  You're right there.  You can easily complete this in time.  You've still got a week and a half!  I know you can do it, and if you need anything, just holler!
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Great work everyone!!

I made a second pass on mine today. Seems like everytime I do, I find more and more issues...  


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I just may be finishing my first draft today.  It looks like it will be longer than I thought, but that's probably due to the fact that I was padding parts, because I thought it was going to be to short. I'll just have to clean up those things next week, and come in just under 100 pages.

ZERO issues other than that!  SWEET!
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mine is in Phil's hands at the moment. It's always a little scary to hear back on first type drafts.


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I'm sure he'll love it, Pia.  I'm sure we'll all love it.

I'm on the grand finale now!  Yes!!!  A new animal is also being intro'd here...monkeys...
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Congrats to all who are nearing the end!

Can't wait to start reading.

Mine is still missing a scene in the middle - want to give the script a rest for now...
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How many pages are you at, Khammana?  Has it been edited, rewritten yet?  Anyone read it for you to help?

Page 92...the end is near!!!  Yippeeeee!!!!
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I'm done - 89 pages, but there's one scene in the middle that's missing, should take up a page, and I have to write it in. I know what it is and how it'll go but can't get to it.

I've send it to Pia already.

Yeah edited but am going to give it another round. Rewritten - kind of, more like cleaned up and fixed the inconsistencies. I'm planning to a grand rewrite after all the feedback.
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What kind of inconsistencies are you talking about? Characters? Plot?


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I'm working on my second and third acts, interchanging them when I feel stumped. I'm just writing at this point. Forget about page length. I'm trying to see if I can finish on time, inconsistencies and all.


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-comedy/m-1624410571/
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Plot! For example had to rework the whole reveal part to make it sound. After the reworking the reveal I had to go back and adjust the "what led to reveal" parts.

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Does any of you have problems guessing if the readers will "get" it?

Sometimes you write in a dialogue because you're afraid the readers won't get it. But then it feels on-the-nose. Argh.


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No doubts or concerns here at all.  I feel like Baltis!

Page 99...almost done...
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Jeff,

YOU CAN DO IT....

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Quoted from Dreamscale
I feel like Baltis!


Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Around page 21. If I tried my hardest, I could get to about 60 by the 4th. This story just doesn't have enough drive because it feels too "by the numbers" to be enjoyable to write. However, I'm not even using the beat sheet but the main character's about to get his "first act catalyst".


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Hey everyone, don't it feel good! Either having reached the finish or at least nearing it?

Feels GREAT!!!  I'm going to have a few beers to that too because the guy who produced and directed Daddy's Home (which I watched today and was fantastic) is making a feature next and he asked me if I had a feature lying around. I told him about BLACKOUT and sent him the logline. He wants to read it ASAP. I told him I won't have a decent copy until the end of September.

Khammana, I'm finishing yours up tomorrow.  

Go Mr. Blonde! You can do it!!


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So, Pia, your script is titled Blackout?  Sweet!

Page 101.  Almost there.  Can't stop.  Must drink...heavily!!!
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Quoted from Dreamscale
So, Pia, your script is titled Blackout?  Sweet!


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I have a title for mine and even a logline. Feel free to comment.

Blackout

A young, up and coming attorney about to get married  must solve the mystery of all the dead women in his apartment before the police does.





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Sorry, Pia, I didn't see that post...I still don't even  

Blonde, in this case, it's a good thing to feel like old Balt!  Just really happy with this script.  Loving it!

Page 101!  I think there's 2 more, an I'll be done with the initial draft.  I'll cut it back to between 98 and 100 next week, I'm pretty sure.

Pia, it sure does feel good!  AAAAYYYEEEEE!!!!!
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It was the 3rd post in this thread Jeff!!  I forgive you though.  


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Thanks Pia, sorry about that missing scene. The description of the scene is in there though.


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Does any of you have problems guessing if the readers will "get" it?

Sometimes you write in a dialogue because you're afraid the readers won't get it. But then it feels on-the-nose. Argh.


When I got to reread mine I couldn't get it (mostly dialog) myself. Had to understand and rewrite. But I can't vouch for the rewrite. That's why I'm pulling away from the script, let it simmer to read it in couple days with new eyes.
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FINISHED!!!!!!

YES!!!!!!!

Damn, I feel exhilarated!

104 pages for the first run.

Fucking love it!!
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I'll have a beer in your honor!!!  Great work dude!!!


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Gracias.  I'm having some vodka and energy drink...feeling like a million bucks right now!

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Four scripts in a pile then! Great.
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I marked your deadline on the SS calendar, in case you need to be reminded of it.
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Thank you, Michael!

We have until midnight of Sept 4 to submit this, right? I need all the time we have to finish my script.

Do I just send it to Don noting it's a 7WC?


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That's what I'm going to be doing.  I think I'll submit mine next Thursday or Friday.

It feels great to be done!  My girlfriend read the finale and didn't seem as happy as I am.  I'll have to give it another read when I get back Saturday.  Never fear though, it's complete, and according to me, it rocks!

Keep going everyone!
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Page 82 here. One more big sequence and I'm finished with Act II.

Where's everybody at? Ripley? Blakkwolfe? Ray?


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Summer virus has consumed my concentration, enthusiasm and progress for most of this week.

Im at ACT II, part Two, pag 66 or so. This weekend I hope to rough out essentially the last half of my outline.

FWIW, I find it quite interesting to watch how everyone does their thing in different strategies.

I'm a map-it-out then clean-as-I-go sort of writer.

Others of you create like madmen and think nothing of rewriting what looks like significant events, plot points, characters and entire chunks of story. (Ugh!)

While others just kinda make it up as they go along. "It's all good!" (LOL! I envy that faith.)

And still others run it out then go back and fill in the little holes, tweaking, cutting, modifying.

Fascinating.
(Not that I'm paying attention, or anything.)

PS, Remember, I started this thing three weeks late, so please be constructively charitable.



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We're in the same boat, Ray. I only started to have a good idea of my script on the second week of August.


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Herman reaching the finishline! You can do it!!!  

Ray, finish it! This is the best place ever to get the best feedback possible on your script! Yeah, it'll be rough for all of us with the first comments, but that's what will spur you to rewrite it!!

Gabe, TJoe....how are you doing? Need any help?


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I got swamped at work the last couple of days and couldn't even look at it. Stupid end of the month insanity. It's when everyone decides their crap is broken and now because they're out of time, it should be an urgent issue for me. Ah, well. I've got a week to write twenty pages and give it at least a once over, which is usually good enough for what I do. That creature feature I posted here a while back was basically a first draft written in less than a month with a quick re-read on it. I can pull it off.


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I know you can do it George.

How is everyone else coming along? Still 7 days left.

Gabe, do you need any help? Anyone need help or a push, just let us know. We're all willing to help here.

Phil and Cornetto have read mine already and I survived   so all is well. Going to tinker with it some more before submitting. Currently reading Khammana's.

I'm stoked there will be so many new features written in less than two months here. Great work everyone.  


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Yeah...anyone need a push or help, just say the word.

We came back last night after all, and have my girlfriend's grandson with us!  Oh my, life is different with small children, huh?  I'm out of my element..but enjoying it as well.

Pia, glad Phil and Cornie didn't lynch you.  I told you, huh?  Everyone will love it, I bet.

George, get it moving, man...get it moving.

Where's the other peeps?  How far along are we all, and what is the count of scripts we are definitely expecting to see finished in 1 week?
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I'll definitely have something ready for the deadline. I've knocked out 20 pages today, probably a record for me. I'll still need to make time to read over it and fix some things but it's not the end of the world if I can't get that done before I submit.

Still need to think of a title and logline when I finish. I'll make it, though. I'm sure of it.  
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Excellent Brian!

So we have 4 finished. Me, Cathy, Khamanna and Jeff.

Close to completion are Brian and George. Who else?

Btw, the guy in South Africa who produced Daddy's Home wants to read Blackout as soon as it is "ready". He's looking for a feature to shoot in 2011.


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Dreamscale, I've seven days of bits-N-pieces time to rough,write&edit 30-40 pages, punch up my (commercially successful, unheard of) action thriller female lead, obliterate the neutrality of the supporting actor pair by inflating them into fantastically likable people (I gotta turn Axel Foley into two people and Rosewood/Taggart into the lead), breath life into Frankenstein's Monster of the sleeper co-lead who's about to pair up with the primary lead to kill everyone, especially the bad guy.

So, I thought I'd have a care as how I pull that off.
A stitch in time...

I'm baking.

I feel sorry for women.
It's d@mn difficult for a woman to speak and act with the confidence and assumption of correctness, that men throw about carelessly, without sounding like a b!tch.
It's just difficult.
Being a guy is easy.
And I'm not even going to start on my "women's biology" rant.

Also, I have an idea for the opening credits sequence, but word around the water hole is directors often like to farm that out to someone else or create their own.
Any one have any corroborating or refuting POVs on that?

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Opening and closing credits, as well as title insertion is one of those things "you're not supposed to do".

BUT...I've been known to do it.  I wouldn't worry about such a thing in this regard, especially if you're still worrying about completing your script on time.

I think the old adage, walk before you run, is a perfect thing to throw out in this regard, just like "don't break the rules until you understand the rules".
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Quoted from RayW

I feel sorry for women.
It's d@mn difficult for a woman to speak and act with the confidence and assumption of correctness, that men throw about carelessly, without sounding like a b!tch.

Biggest problem I see when men write women is that they either make them sound and act like guys. Cursing all the time and doing gross things or they write them the way they fantasize about women. The latter is better, but still hard to believe. The former just makes most women cringe. A female lead can shoot a gun or fight like the guys, but should not cuss like a sailer and spit for example.


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Unless, of course, she has something in her mouth that she just can't quite swallow...otherwise, no spitting!

Agreed!
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Pia,
Thank GOD!
Doing just that.
Not scratching her balls, or anything.

I want her professional, competent and smart.
Her arc is supposed to be moving from "too much" professional to "Loosen up - but only a bit" Insert wink and smirk here.
No corny Miss Congeniality fumbling bad a$$.
I want her to move from a mature Clarice Starling into a Axel Foley.

Would YOU like to see a professional woman in the company of professional men WHO DO SWEAR stand apart by A: not swearing at all, B: only comparable to them and certainly not trying to out-do them or C: Limit it to sparse, basic "Sh!t!" and "Damn!"?



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Quoted from Grandma Bear

Biggest problem I see when men write women is that they either make them sound and act like guys. Cursing all the time and doing gross things or they write them the way they fantasize about women. The latter is better, but still hard to believe. The former just makes most women cringe. A female lead can shoot a gun or fight like the guys, but should not cuss like a sailer and spit for example.


I've met a woman that cusses like a sailor and spits.  She has a mustache too.  She's very cool.
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Quoted from mcornetto
I've met a woman that cusses like a sailor and spits.  She has a mustache too.  She's very cool.


Does her cool mustache tickle?




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You guys are hilarious, seems like this thread is starting to get hi-jacked.


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Just finished my Act II on page 87. My proposed page length of 110-120 seems pretty good right now.

I think I'll be able to finish it.


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I'm just touching Act II. I already know what to write for act ii and act iii so hopefully I can zoom pass those. I'm considering in not submitting mines on sept 4 since I think need to do a lot of revision. lol. But that's my progress so far.  


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If anyone wants any help, suggestions, or even a quick read through, let me know ASAP, as I have some spare time today, as my girlfriend is taking a day trip with her grandson (and dropping him off with his Mom and Dad), so I'm here...and available.

Let me know...
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Ray, if your female characters need to curse, I'd prefer them saying just damn.

But again, in Memento, can you count how many fucks Carrie-Ann Moss's character said?


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Honestly, women swear.  I worked with this girl at Victoria Police (no mustache and not a lesbian either)  and every other word out of her mouth was fuck.  Mind you this is Australia and language isn't as much of an issue here, unless you say aboriginal because that really pisses a lot of people off.
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Michael, I know there are some women like that, but in general, women look down at women like that. It is far from the norm.

Women will do what attracts men. Usually that means acting feminine, not like a trucker buddy...


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Guess it depends on the person. My brother's wife swears but not nearly as much as my brother. Same with my mom. When they both swear, it's a lot, but it's not very often.


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This isn't really about whether women cuss or not.... It's about men writing female characters that act and sound like men...

You can ignore me if you want, but....


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I wonder how women usually write about male characters.

Who here has a female protagonist rather than a male?


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I have a script with a female protagonist. Not this one - it would be hard to think of a thriller with female protagonist for me.
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Quoted from Coding Herman
Who here has a female protagonist rather than a male?


Well, they say, "Write what you know". In other words, not me. =(


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Your's is a female, Herman? It would be fun to read something with a female protagonist!
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Your's is a female, Herman? It would be fun to read something with a female protagonist!


Sorry, Khama. Not this time.

My main protagonist is a male but it's the female protagonist who has amnesia.


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I think Blackkwolfe has a female protagonist though.


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I have a female lead protagonist: Agent Madison "Mad Hatter" Elliot, FBI

Could be played by any of the following:

Diane Kruger , Hillary Swank ,
Amanda Peet , or Rachel McAdams

Unfortunately, the genre has very few female protagonists, several of which are more "proactive victims" than genuine hero material.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thriller_films:_2000s

Not too many heroes over here, either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Actress#2000s

Lettuce see what "the boys" are up to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Actor#2000s
Hmm... A preponderance of either heroes or villains.



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Cool, Ray!

For a female FBI, I'd pick either Diane Kruger or Hillary Swank. The other twos are more girly. Maybe because of the films they're usually in.

On top of my head, I think Jodie Foster is the only woman who can carry a thriller.


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You guys are funny!

Now we're able to pick and choose the actors for our script?  Wow!

OK...hmmm...uh...I guess I'll take Leo DeCaprio, Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Wesley Snipes, Zoe Saldanna, and...not sure yet.  Let me send a few more queries out...I'm sure I'll have more interest a little later today!
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>> Now we're able to pick and choose the actors for our script?  Wow! <<

LOL!

You mean you can write characters for a story that ideally would actually be on the screen but you really have no idea whose personality they would match? WOW!


Seriously, you honestly have no idea which actor or actress would be most suitable for your characters? You don't... channel that personality for consistency? Are you being funny?

Your lead could be be plug and played by either DeCaprio - OR - Morgan Freeman? Hmm. Can't wait.



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HaHa...Leo could play 1 of my 2 leads, who are both 35 years old, since he's 36.  Morgan Freeman could play another important character who is in his 60's, even though he's 73, as he looks younger than he is.  But then again, maybe Morgan could play each and every role with a little make up here and there.  Damn, that's funny.  You got me laughing now.

Ray, Ray, Ray, I'm just fucking around with ya, bud.

It is humorous to me, though, when people start throwing out names for their scripts.  It's always based on a few different things...looks, popularity, accomplishments, or similar roles.

How's the script coming along, BTW?
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>> Damn, that's funny.  You got me laughing now. <<

Ha ha ha.
Not quite so stupid of an idea now, is it, funny MFer?
Different strokes for different folks.
We're all doin' our thing in different ways.

>> Ray, Ray, Ray, I'm just F**king around with ya, bud. <<

F#ckin' right back atcha.
It's good to see that you can eat what you serve.

>> It is humorous to me, though, when people start throwing out names for their scripts. <<

H3ll. I've seen enough development stories to know all sorts of shenanigans go on with casting.
I wouldn't presume diddly for an actual cast.
Lokkit what happened to SALT.

>> How's the script coming along, BTW? <<

Roughed out the second half of ACT II over the weekend, should get that cleaned up today/tomorrow.
Leaves me with only ten/twelve pages to figure for ACT III.
No big whup.
I do gotta go back and punch up some saltine cracker dialog in ACT I and II, part 1.
Again, no big whup.

I'm pretty confident I'll have something presentable by Friday.



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So I think we should have at least 6 scripts by the end?


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1)  Pia
2)  Khammana
3)  CM Hall
4)  Jeff
5)  Herman
6)  Ray
7)  Brian
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9)  Wolffe
10)  Spielberg

Looks like 10 to me!

Will we just submit these normally, then?  What day should they go in?
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Sept. 4 at 11:59pm.

Page 95 here, twenty-something more pages to go.

Hopefully I can have one read through before having it being torn apart.


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I look very forward to ripping things to small shreds.

Just kidding!  Looking forward to reading every one of these soon to be masterpieces!
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When reviewing and noting on these first submissions (obviously we have a range of experience and skill) should we just start hacking (and supporting!) in some wacky, free-form style or should the authors begin with "I know I need help HERE and HERE. Suggestions please." and let the beatings focus on those spots?

A fair read and review of a single screenplay demands quite a bit of time.
I find myself spending more time on writing a review than reading it (assuming I can get past the first 10 to 50 pages*).
R&R of TEN screenplays is a significant commitment of effort.
I'd hate to waste my time looking at something other authors aren't interested in X 10.

And I'm assuming ALL of these will require at least one rewrite to be submitted for additional abuse.
I suggest nit pick splellin'Ngrammerin' then.

* Do we need to commit ourselves to reading the whole thing, no matter how gawdawful one story may be, kinda like a paid professional? Or can we say "Sorry. Couldn't get past page 20."?



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I guess I'm one of the few (or only?) with a female protagonist. I don't think she swears at all, but then again, there's not much swearing at all from any of the characters.

It looks like I'm going to finish at the 90 page mark, maybe a page or two more but that's it. I'm working everyday until Saturday so it looks like mine might be a 11.58pm last minute job to get over the finish line. All the hard stuff is over so I'll definitely make it. 100%.

I'll be reading every script from first page to last. I can't wait to see what everyone came up with!
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I deal with  a female protagonist just that she's 11 years old. I'm dealing with children mostly.


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Submit by midnight est on Saturday September 4th.

Title and then add 7WC.

This is great! Would be nice to run these things about twice a year. Help people see through a feature. Feels great, doesn't it?  


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[quote=RayW]"When reviewing and noting on these first submissions (obviously we have a range of experience and skill) should we just start hacking (and supporting!) in some wacky, free-form style or should the authors begin with "I know I need help HERE and HERE. Suggestions please." and let the beatings focus on those spots?

A fair read and review of a single screenplay demands quite a bit of time.
I find myself spending more time on writing a review than reading it (assuming I can get past the first 10 to 50 pages*).
R&R of TEN screenplays is a significant commitment of effort.
I'd hate to waste my time looking at something other authors aren't interested in" X 10. End quote



Maybe approach each screenplay with the knowledge that it's a draft and that we're not going to edit each one word-for-word but we will read them, word for word.

Or, if you outright hate the first 20 pages, just say so (and say why, gently, if possible)and move on to the next screenplay (I mean, I don't want to torture anybody with my 80 something pages, I'm pretty sure if you don't like the first 20 pages you won't like the rest of it, either).

Just a thought.
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Submit by midnight est on Saturday September 4th.

Title and then add 7WC.

This is great! Would be nice to run these things about twice a year. Help people see through a feature. Feels great, doesn't it?  




Absolutely helped me through a dry spell, pushed me to try something different.
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Three female protagonist scripts!

Mr. Ripley - you're submitting too?

I'm having major cold feet. I want to rewrite and suddenly thinking there's no time. I'm planning for the major rewrite and since I don't have a word of outline - I'll need to outline it first, then change the outline and follow it. The script needs it because it's non-linear and confusing - I have two twins (and the plot revolves around confusing the two), one of them gets a scar and the time line is pre scar (past), after scar (also past), and after the head trauma (present time).

Should I apologize and submit or submit and ask for feedback only after I post a rewrite... You tell me!
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Last time we did this, some people read mine, hated it to the point of preferring not to comment at all...

I think it's fair to read those scripts who's author read yours. Some people write long and very detailed comments and point out every single typo. Others read and point out only a few things they liked and a few things they didn't. I think it's up to you what you want to do.


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Khamanna, I think you should submit it. Fix some of the easier things then wait with a big rewrite when you have received more feedback from others.  


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I'm thinking on not submitting on Sat. Maybe the next week. I need to do a lot of revising on mines. lol. The second act is giving me alot of problems. I have certain scenes in mind but I need to work on moving the story to those specific scenes.


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-comedy/m-1624410571/
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Thanks Pia I just don't want to torment my reader

Here's what I'll do - I'll seriously ask everyone to just stop reading if he/she doesn't like it I really want it read and I think after the rewrite they'll be able to, and without stumbling too much, so I'm thinking it'll do a lot of good if the reader will stop reading and continue after the rewrite instead of insisting on finishing the read and getting frustrated with each additional page.

C.M. Hall's way of saying is perfect for me:  "Or, if you outright hate the first 20 pages, just say so (and say why, gently, if possible)and move on to the next screenplay (I mean, I don't want to torture anybody with my 80 something pages, I'm pretty sure if you don't like the first 20 pages you won't like the rest of it, either)."

I'll add to that "read the rest 80 after I post the rewrite please".

Question though - Will there be a deadline for a rewrite as well?
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Quoted from c m hall
Or, if you outright hate the first 20 pages, just say so (and say why, gently, if possible)and move on to the next screenplay (I mean, I don't want to torture anybody with my 80 something pages, I'm pretty sure if you don't like the first 20 pages you won't like the rest of it, either).


Bingo.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Unless the collective consensus says "Nope. Gotta beat your way through the whole thing."

Yeah, I'm interested in receiving what I dish out: actionable, constructive criticism.
I don't wanna get "That sux, Ray."
I can't do anything with that.
What am I supposed to do with that?

Too much blabby blabby.
Characters fail to integrate.
The language does match the target audience or MPAA rating.
Too much blood.
Not enough blood.
Is this supposed to be satire or dark comedy?
Transpose settings B and D.
Alternate ending(s).
Making this a period piece adds three times the cost.
Clarify the protagonist's arc more at the beginning or end.
Use ellipsis instead of (BEAT).
Use (BEAT) instead of ellipsis.
Use ... for drifting off.
Use -- for interrupted dialog.
Stretch the time at the beginning.
Shorten the time at the end.
Add more humor.

Stuff life that.







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I don't think there's a deadline for rewrites. Just for completing the feature.


Just Murdered by Sean Elwood (Zombie Sean) and Gabriel Moronta (Mr. Ripley) - (Dark Comedy, Horror) All is fair in love and war. A hopeless romantic gay man resorts to bloodshed to win the coveted position of Bridesmaid. 99 pages.
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Too much blabby blabby.
Characters fail to integrate.
The language does match the target audience or MPAA rating.
Too much blood.
Not enough blood.
Is this supposed to be satire or dark comedy?
Transpose settings B and D.
Alternate ending(s).
Making this a period piece adds three times the cost.
Clarify the protagonist's arc more at the beginning or end.
Use ellipsis instead of (BEAT).
Use (BEAT) instead of ellipsis.
Use ... for drifting off.
Use -- for interrupted dialog.
Stretch the time at the beginning.
Shorten the time at the end.
Add more humor.

Stuff life that.






I wouldn't mind all that Just thinking reading my rewrite would do me more good. And also I don't want my reader to suffer

But what Ray says with page numbers = perfect feedback.

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First of all, everyone reviews scripts differently...and that's a good thing.  Your reviews here should be no different than your normal reviews.

Now, if your normal reviews are only a few paragraphs long for a feature length script, you're obviously not offering very much in terms of critique and feedback.

If you're wondering what kinds of things to comment on, I'd recommend the following:

1)  Story/plot
2)  Characters
3)  Action
4)  Writing/format/grammar
5)  Overall/general

Within the topics there are numerous things to look at and discuss.

In terms of reading and reviewing every single script, I'd look at it like this...are you expecting everyone to read your script?  If so, you should in turn, read every script.

I plan on reading each and every script and I plan on giving extensive feedback and help on every script.  Now, I will say that if I literally cannot get through a script because its too bad or too whatever, I will at least read as much as I can and give extensive feedback and help that will hopefully steer the writer in the correct direction.

I'll most likely read and review the scripts by writers who have given me feedback in the past, first.  From there, I'll probably go in some sort of order of how well they appear to be written, and I can easily tell that from the first page.

I think we'll have 10 or 11 completed scripts by Saturday.  I strongly urge everyone to actually complete the script by the deadline, as if it is a real deadline.  That's what makes this challenge so valuable.

Let's do it up, guys and gals!!

PS  We forgot about George!  Maybe we'll have 12 scripts?
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I'll go for the "by Act" review strategy.

I'll probably leave 4-5 posts for each script I read.

1) The first 10 pages.
2) Act I
3) Act II
4) Act III
5) Overall

And I'll comment on story, characters and writing in each of the section.


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And yes, I'll stop reading if I really can't through it, although I'll try my best.


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Herman, you may run into some problems if you go by acts, as some scripts are written nonstandardly in terms of structure.

I imagine that many of these scripts will have a nonstandard look and feel, based on the fact they're all dealing with amnesia, which will lead to lots of Flashbacks, and out of order events.

I'll write 1 post initially, and if the writer or others chime in, I'll continue the discussion.

Everyone can do it whichever way they choose.  That's the beauty of it!

OK, I just need to work on a logline now, which I really sick at!
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I understand what you meant by running into problems if I do it by acts.

Like I'll be saying something in the script is a problem when it'll be resolved later on. I understand that, so I'm usually more lenient and forgiving in the beginning.

However, I disagree with you about the non-standard structure. Even with flashbacks and out of order events.

Non-chronological stories need to have some sort of structures, too. Right? Things still need to be in a logical order for the readers to understand.

So what I mean by three acts is this:

Act I - setup of conflict
Act II - escalation of conflict
Act III - resolution of conflict

That way, regardless of whether the story is told in linear or non-linear fashion, I can still see what the writer is trying to do.


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Just don't tell me:

First 10 - there are problems all over here
ACT I - sux
ACT II - could be better
ACT III - you have problems
Overall - whatamess!

LOL! I can't do anything with that kind of vagary.    



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Really, I don't think any one of us will have an extremely messy script. Every script should have some merits of its own.

Some maybe are better with action and plot, others with dialogue and characters.

A near-properly formatted spec script, with no huge block of text, should be guaranteed a read through.


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I hope you're right, Herman, but actually, I highly doubt it.

I'm betting that the vast majority of these scripts will be far from good, and many will be downright bad.  Hopefully, I'm wrong.

Regardless, this challenge was created to help us do 2 things...write a complete feature script on a subject that was chosen for us, and prove to ourselves that not only can we do it, but that we can do it in a tight 7 week time period.

So, with that said, any and all scripts that are completed are already successful of those 2 main things.  Getting them to a level where they're actually a successful/marketable script is entirely another beast.
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DELETE.


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>> They can't be messier than Men To Rise, right?  << (anonymous author)  

LOL!
Maybe I can get a "Most Improved" participation ribbon!




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Maybe I should delete that message. It doesn't sound too nice.


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I'll make an effort to read all of the scripts, though it will be over a couple of weeks.

I urge all SS'ers to check at least a few out. Maybe if people stopped reading shorts and the odd scripts that pop up here where the author doesn't reply to any reviews.

This is a massive pet hate of mine and the same for a few of us.

It's time to stop wasting time on these scripts that the writer doesn't acknowledge.

I might cop some stick for this attitude but I'd rather see these worthwhile efforts rewarded with reads.

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>> I'm betting that the vast majority of these scripts will be far from good, and many will be downright bad...

Getting them to a level where they're actually a successful/marketable script is entirely another beast. <<

I think most every kernel of concept is marketable, so my objective will be to read all of 7WC entries as both a director filming the project and as the paying audience.

Push here. Shove there. Edit this. Add that = Poof! The next POTC or LOTR!
HA!
I wish.


Dreamscale, come to think of it, have I read any of your prior work here?

I've read several of Dogglebes, a couple of McClung's, at least one of MedStudent, Bert, Brianna, Pia's and Mr Z's.
I don't know if I've read any of George or Cornetto's. And Screenrider I gotta get to.



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>>  I urge all SS'ers to check at least a few out. Maybe if people stopped reading shorts and the odd scripts that pop up here where the author doesn't reply to any reviews...

I might cop some stick for this attitude but I'd rather see these worthwhile efforts rewarded with reads. <<

No.
I don't think you should.
I think that's a dead on balls approach.
One I'll certainly be committing to.
And I'll probably take weeks, as well.
Four weeks to write one = four weeks to read and remark on a dozen?
Plausible.



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What did I miss from Herman with the "DELETE" post and the subsequent one about that sounded mean?  What's up, Herman?

Ray, I E-Mailed you at least 2 scripts awhile back but never heard anything from you, so I don't know if you've read anything from me.  And to be completely honest, I've read FAR WORSE than Men to Rise, believe it or not...but then again, I didn't get past page 1 on that script, so maybe it is one of the all time worst.  Hard to say.

Stevie, you're right on, brother!  With you all the way with what you said here.  If someone can't even respond with a simple "Thank You", fuck 'em.

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Dreamscale, come to think of it, have I read any of your prior work here?



Fade to White is by Jeff. It's in the Horror section, still on the first page.


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What did I miss from Herman with the "DELETE" post and the subsequent one about that sounded mean?  What's up, Herman?



I was just saying that none of our script should be messier than Men to Rise. And it seems like I was attacking LucasB.


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Indeed, it is.  Thanks for the plug, Herman!  That's an old draft, though.
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It looks like old LucasB pulled all his posts out and disappeared.  I think his biggest problem was that his script was too short at only 234 pages.  You know, you've got to jump over that 300 page mark to really make it shine!

We've all seen that shit time and time again.
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>> Ray, I E-Mailed you at least 2 scripts awhile back but never heard anything from you, so I don't know if you've read anything from me. <<

I see that you did.
I apologize for my disorderliness.
Consider them each second on my next-to-do list after the 7WC.



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Submit by midnight est on Saturday September 4th.

Title and then add 7WC.

This is great! Would be nice to run these things about twice a year. Help people see through a feature. Feels great, doesn't it?  


If you guys have a seven year challenge, I'm in.  I could just about get a draft done.
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seamus,

If you have the time and the story and you're in the right groove, it shouldn't take you longer than a week to knock out a rough draft.  

Everyone else,

Looks like it's time for a thread cleaning, but what I think I'll do is wait until the scripts are in, then either lop off this thread to the first post or we can lock this thread and start a new one.  Up to you?
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A week to knock off a rough draft?  WOW, that would be quite impressive...and most likely a very ROUGH draft.
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I usually take 2 weeks for a first draft...and yes, they are usually VERY rough.


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I guess we all write very differently.

I've now proven to myself that I can conceive and write what I call a finished first draft in 5 weeks.  I don't see it as being "rough", though.  I guess we'll soon see.  

I edit as I write. Obviously, some things slip by, if I'm writing faster...or more, but I'd say my biggest # of pages in a single day would be about 15, and that was the end, here, which I knew what was going to happen for at least 3 weeks.

Otherwise, I write 5-8 pages per day, for 3 or 4 days straight, then I'll spend a day (or the weekend) rereading what I wrote and making changes/edits/corrections/deletions/etc.

I prefer to have more time up front, conceiving the story and all its intricacies.  I also like spending a week (or actually much more) doing research on the subject and locales.

That's my formula.
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Question:

I got two guys doing a phone conversation and I wanna show both sides, so it's a no brainer to use INTERCUT.

But both characters are doing different "exciting" things. One's searching for stuff, one's running away from someone. So will it seem confusing if there's so much action between them without proper sluglines?

The action lines aren't long though, like two lines after each corresponding character speaks.


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Question:

I got two guys doing a phone conversation and I wanna show both sides, so it's a no brainer to use INTERCUT.

But both characters are doing different "exciting" things. One's searching for stuff, one's running away from someone. So will it seem confusing if there's so much action between them without proper sluglines?

The action lines aren't long though, like two lines after each corresponding character speaks.


That shouldn't matter if you say intercut.  It just leaves it up to the reader to decide when the cut happens.   You can still include actions.  

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Herman, you've got a guy running away from someone while he's talking on the phone?

As long as your scenes don't change, you don't need to worry about new SLUGS...but if they do...well, then you have an issue.

Personally, I don't think I've ever used an INTERCUT, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with using them.  I prefer to show either one side of the call, or go back and forth, using full SLUGS, showing exactly what I want from either caller, and having the one not onscreen in V.O.  Just a personal choice, I guess.

What page are you on now?  Keep it rocking, bud!  You're almost there.

Where's George?  We need an update!  And, what happened to Greg?  He popped in with some horror sounding script early on, and we haven't heard from him since.
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Thanks, Michael and Jeff.

Yeah, my guy is running and talking on the phone at the same time. Luckily both characters on the phone are in their same respective location throughout the conversation.

Okay, so what happen if one of the guys, especially the running one, goes from int. to ext.? I guess I'll have to use different slugs then.

I really want to show both sides for this conversation, instead of using V.O. and going back, because both characters discover things while they're talking.

I'm on page 96 right now. Haven't written much today. Planned to go up to 98 by tonight. Averaging 5 pages per day so far.


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Cool, Herman, you're almost there for sure, then!

If your running guy changes from INT to EXT or whatever, you'll definitely need a new SLUG, and IMO, that represents a problem for an INTERCUT scene, because, as far as I know, an INTERCUT scene is "INTERCUTTING between 2 established scenes, or settings.

Michael Cornetto?  Your turn...
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I will agree that a new INTERCUT is needed if one of the characters majorly changes location or you can change location and then supply a new intercut.

INT A
INTERCUT EXT B
stuff happens B changes to INT
INTERCUT INT B

or

INT A
INTERCUT EXT B
stuff happens B changes to INT
INT B
INTERCUT INT A

But remember it's about readability, formatting isn't about being dogmatic it's about making your script understandable.

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Oh, I see. Thanks so much.


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Actually, you won't need to use a new slug. There is more than one way to do this. You can use a new entire slug, or you can use a secondary header which would consist of

INT A
INT B
INTERCUT
Dude runs
OUTSIDE
where he keeps talking.

Or even easier and just as fine to maintain ease of readability (and I have actually read this in the Screenwriting Bible)

You can just keep writing without the use of any new slug at all.

INT A
INT B
INTERCUT
Dude runs outside across the lawn.

No new intercut at all, the audience understands that he just went outside, and for shooting, the director will catch this and make a note that the guy ran outside. Heck, he might even make the shot continuous to maintain the flow of the script (depending on how the location works).


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I'm not doubting you, George, but IMO, that's not going to work.  You'd have no description of this new setting, INT or EXT, and to me, it's just not "right".

I mean if that's OK, why use SLUGS at all when changing scenes?  You know?

BTW, how's your progress?  5 days to go...
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The method I suggested is used best when the scenes are continuous. You know that the character is moving directly from one place to another without any break in the action. This is similar to a character moving from room to room in a house. You don't often have a new slug for every single room, nor do you even use secondary headers for every room change. You do most of the time, but when the character is constantly moving, there comes a point where you have to trust that reader can follow what's going on. If you blatantly write, "He runs outside" then you know that the character crossed the room to the door, opened it, and is now standing in the sunlight. The only way this would cause a problem in filming is if the interior and exterior are in different places. It happens, but as writers, that's not our problem. I'm not saying to make a habit of it because those slugs are essential to shooting, but as long as the move is clear, then it's all good.

As for me, I have 10 pages almost exactly. I have to tweak a location that runs for 15 pages, even though there are 3 or 4 scenes in that one place. I'm going to ramp up the end of the scene, take it outside and get it moving again instead of having talking heads. From there, I should have enough for them to do to link up the first 70 pages and the last 10. Going to try to make those 10 pages a sort of pre-climax climax for a subplot that is not fully completed yet.


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I accidentally sneaked a catfight into my script. Boo-yah!


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Nice job, Herman!  I was hoping someone would incorporate some big cats into their script.  Nothing wrong with some lions and tigers...
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I'm starting to sweat about this now...  

I read mine today. I wasn't impressed...


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Quoted from Grandma Bear
I'm starting to sweat about this now...  

I read mine today. I wasn't impressed...


Sneak in a catfight!!!
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How do I make that work with one live female and four dead ones?...


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How do I make that work with one live female and four dead ones?...


I really don't have an answer for that.  
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Quoted from Grandma Bear
How do I make that work with one live female and four dead ones?...


Two words: Zom Bees!


I think I'd actually pay money to watch four zombie chicks go at it.
The old, slow classic kind.
None of that Ritalin deprived 28 Days Later stuff.

Of course, beer would make it better.
Maybe some sleep deprivation wouldn't hurt either.



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Don't worry, Pia!  You don't need any cat fights.
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Okay, I'm on page 103 but my Act III is a mess right now. I already have a feeling that it'll be way too confusing with those twists and turns. Sometimes I think it's a bit too much. Maybe I should take away some twists?


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Okay, I'm on page 103 but my Act III is a mess right now. I already have a feeling that it'll be way too confusing with those twists and turns. Sometimes I think it's a bit too much. Maybe I should take away some twists?


I'll read it and try to understand and will make a suggestion on the twists. It's easy to suggest on someone else's script

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Herman, only you know and can decide if it is too confusing or whatever.

In your mind, is it too confusing, or is it too confusing, based on the way it's written or presented?

Twists are a good thing, but too many, or poorly presented twists can easily spoil the omelet.

Congrats on getting over page 100, though!  That's great.  You still have 4 days to go!  SWEET!!!
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The basic idea/story is pretty simple. But if you get down to the technicalities of it, it can get confusing.

One way I think I should do is to space out the twists more. Give the readers more time to absorb the info. Right now I have one scene where two twists occur one after another.

Yeah, the last thing I want is to have the twist spoiling the story.

And thanks Khama. I'll read yours too 'cause your story sounds confusing as well. LOL.


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Well, I think I hit the end. It's only 85 pages, but at the same time, there's some actions that only last a couple lines but would translate into more screen time. We'll see what happens when I re-read today or tomorrow.


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Congrats, George!  Good job.  You wrote this thing fast, huh?  Very impressive!
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Fast and without prep. I just started writing and followed where it lead me. Hope it doesn't show too badly.


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OK, everyone, where we at?  3 days and some change to go.

Haven't heard from Ray, Wolffe, or Brian in awhile...come to think of it, haven't heard from CM Hall in awhile, either.

I think I'll be submitting mine tomorrow after 1 final read through.

So, Pia, will this get its own thread then, or will they simply be posted in the "thriller" section?

Keep at it, everyone!!!!!
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So, Pia, will this get its own thread then, or will they simply be posted in the "thriller" section?!

I don't know. Just submit like you normally do and add 7WC after your title.  


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Submit normally and if it goes like last time they will be posted in their selected genre section.  They will each have their own thread.  This thread will be locked and a new thread will be created for you to chat about the results.
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I guess all will be posted under Thriller? But mine is a sci-fi action thriller....


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I thought Chelsea was done a loooooooooooong time ago.


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Since the action, including gun fights, in my story CAN be shot with PG-13 violence I'm going back through and sanitizing the language, making it something like a modified version of what you'd see on broadcast TV.

I'm of the nubile opinion that if a producer/director wants to re-load the screenplay with colorful things that we all know right where those little spicy bits of language should be inserted.

I'm like... 9/10 done.
Had family shhhhhstuff slow me down the last coupla days.
Life intervenes.
Should still be good for Friday. No time Sat.



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I have a full draft now. It's 91 pages. Now I just need a title. I'll make sure to read it through a couple more times prior to submitting. Since I wrote it straight through there was a lot of repeated info and occasionally conflicting info at points when I hadn't yet worked out the story. However, I believe I have it. My hope is that my extra stuff doesn't seem completely extraneous.


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Okay, I'm on page 108, in the middle of my finale sequence. Just need a few pages more to end it and then write the denouement. Should be finished with around 115.


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Great going guys!!!!  I'm really excited about this!!

Have some reservations about my script at the moment, but I guess that's normal. Needs a big rewrite! I'll just use the producer's old comment...I'll fix it in post/next draft!  


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I would want to borrow this comment from you. I'll fix it in post/next draft! --too. with my sincere apologies.
Herman, embrace yourself - now you'll have to read it all

Why you're not sure about yours, Pia? Yours is confusing too (I hope)? Probably not...

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I'm on page 87. I will finish by tomorrow and give it a read through/quick edit on Saturday morning.
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Good job, George!

Good work, Herman!

Way to go, Brian!

Excellent, Ray!
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Hip-hip-hooray!
(which rhymes with Ray)
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And hopefully we can all submit it the next day!
(which rhymes with horray)


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Word from Don "The submitters can indicate in the comments that it is for the 7WC. ".

So, how many completed scripts do we have so far Jeff?


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Well, it looks like we have...

1)  Jeff
2)  Pia
3)  Khammana
4)  Herman
5)  CM Hall (although we don't hear much from him/her
6)  George
7)  Brian
  Ray
9)  Blackwolffe?

Anyone I forgot?

I'm submitting mine later today.
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Congrats everyone who's managed to get a script finished - I'm looking forward to reading as many as my spare time allows.
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Not sure about the title yet, but I was kind of drawn to a particular conversation in my script to give it the title of: Flying with Fake Feathers. Trouble is that this title sounds either like a comedy or something from the Coen brothers.


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Mine will be untitled with no logline...
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Meh, I've already done "Untitled." Everyone hated that title.


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Funny...I'm kidding, obviously.

I have a title, just need a logline, and that is definitely where I am at my weakest.  I'm working on one now, before I post it later today.
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If anyone needs help with loglines:

http://twoadverbs.site.aplus.net/loglinearticle.htm


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That's good, Herman, but nothing I don't know.  I just can't write the damn things.

With a little help from friends, I think I've got something that will work OK.  Submitting it tonight.

Anyone else?  Where we all at?  52 hours till deadline...I think.

C'mon, peeps!  Let's get it done!!!
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Wrappin' it up tonight leaving tomorrow for some clean up.

And I just ran into a minor snag:
I can write this twist reveal of the bad guy to be either the local big wig or the bastard closest to home.

Which guy p!sses you off the most? (I'm gonna kill him good).
Is it the holier than thou boss' boss in another state that's never around but always p!ssin' in your cornflakes?
Or is it your ball bustin', d!ck head supervisor that constantly threatens you with your career?



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Definitely the DICKHEAD supervisor!

Make that bastard fuck suffer!

Good job, Ray on getting this done.  I'm seriously impressed. This is your first feature, right?

Looking forward to reading all of these!!!!
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Uh...shouldn't you have in mind who the culprit is before you start writing?

If you can really choose, then probably there is a setup problem. The ending won't feel inevitable. Instead, it might come out of left field.

But again, I haven't read your script, so maybe I'm just rambling here.

I'm on page 113, finishing up my finale sequence. Going to start the denouement soon.


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Dreamscale - Yes. First feature.

Herman - Thrillers are about setting up multiple POTENTIAL bad guys.

Left field is just sloppy trade craft.

So who do you want to stick it to at work?
Your boss doin' his/her job of making you do your job?
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Herman, sometimes, IMO, an "out of left field" reveal, if actually, and properly set up, is cool shit.  Love it...BUT...if not set up at all, or just downright silly or nonsensical it's crap.

KILL THE SUPER!!!!!!!  Have his boss have the super's secretary do the deed, while disguised as a candy striper during a big parade.

That's my vote...work it in there!
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DONE! 115 pages.

Now gotta fix things up in the beginning, make up a title and a logline.


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I started writing mine without a clue as to what was going to happen. It evolved little by little and by page 30 or 40, I had it all worked out. I didn't even know the McGuffin until the page finally came to actually say what it was. I don't usually write that way, but felt like doing it this time. I may do it more often. Planned is sometimes easy to write, but sometimes, you get caught up in the details, and when the time comes and your character says go left but your outline says go right, you might be unwilling to break from the outline for fear of losing your story. Some of my best have been to have a basic idea of where I'm going and just writing to get there.


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Very, very true, George.

That's the moment when the characters live on their own and you can feel how they would react to certain situations.

Outline is flexible, anyway. I just know my beginning, act I turning point, and my ending. Then I just brainstorm scenes, not knowing how the characters would react during those scenes.


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OK, so Herman and George are also done, then?

I have not submitted mine yet.  Still working on the damn logline.
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I'll need to submit mine today since I'm going out of town. Gotta read it one more time, dang it.


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If anyone wants a quick read of their first 10 pages or so, I've got some time now.  Let me know.

Logline is finished and it's being submitted now!  Hip hip hooray!!!
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Alright. I got my notes. I got a pizza. I got a six pack of Becks and a day off on Monday, which means the school stuff I need for Tuesday can wait...Gonna plug in me some old school metal (I'm thinking Priest, Maiden, Rhoads era Ozzy) and see if I can't get this bastard put down.


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Maiden should definitely help!  What a great band!  The new release is great, too, BTW.

Are you saying you haven't written any actual pages of the script yet?  Huh?  You're going to write a feature in less than 30 hours?

WOW!

Start off with Wasted Time, go back to 22 Acacia Avenue, then jump forward to Alexander the Great,and then back again to Die with Your Boots On. That should get the creative juices flowing!
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Blakkwolfe!!

You can do it!

I also wanted to wish you a happy belated birthday!! Hope you had a great day!


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Blakkwolfe!!

You can do it!

I also wanted to wish you a happy belated birthday!! Hope you had a great day!


Thank you! I did....

No, I've been working up to this point...It was at about 80 pages, then I got busy and had to move on to other things. Damn job got in the way...Tonight, though, I'm not working for our county School district...Tonight...I can indeed play with madness and stare deeply into the Electric eye...Tonight, damn it, I'm a screenwriter!


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Tonight, you are The Ancient Mariner!!!!!
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Life intervened again today.
I'll be lucky to turn this in Saturday.
Early next week submission is looking better unless I just feel like listening you guys pound me over stuff I can see for myself.
Please, by all means, dock me ten points for being late.

GL, everyone!



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Ray, c'mon, man!  Huh?  You're not going to get it done?  I'm bummed...

How about everyone else?  Anyone submitted yet, other than moi?  You can do it!  We can all do it!  Let's do it, damnit!
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My script has been submitted -- hoping for the best --
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>> Huh?  You're not going to get it done?  I'm bummed... <<
Ha ha.
I suggested I wasn't going to get it done ON TIME.
It'll get done, just a few days late.

Sorry to deprive you a few days of something rancid I know you're really looking forward to sinking your teeth into.

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No.
Wait.
That's s'posed to be good things come...
Nevermind.
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96 pages worth of...done! Whoo HOOOO!

It's a first draft, it's thoughts on paper, but it is a seed that, if never planted, would never have grown...

Now that it's done...I'm goin' ta take the young 'uns out to Universal Studios.


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So we have 7 confirmed:

1) Jeff
2) Pia
3) Khama
4) Herman
5) George
6) CM Hall
7) Blakkwolfe

With 2 lurking in the horizon: Ray and Brian


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Submitted!
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Good job, Wolfe!  Excellent!  Did the Maiden help?  I bet it did.

Congrats to all 7...we're all submitted?  A day early...nice!

Ray, c'mon, man.  Stop the internet searches and WRITE!!!!!  You can do it.  No teeth will be sinking into anything. This is an exercise that is meant to show each of us we can do this...we can meet a deadline...and we can deliver quality products.  No sleep for you, Ray...stay in front of that keyboard and bang that bitch out.

Where's Brian?  I thought we had like 11 a week ago.  Who'd we lose or forget about?

LET'S GO!!!!!!
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http://moviebytes.com/ContestDetail.cfm?StoryID=3912&ContestNumber=2258&NewsTab=TRUE

Someone posted this article on MoviePoet. Nothing we don't know but it's worth to go through it before we provide and receive all the feedback, I think.
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Quoted from Dreamscale
Good job, Wolfe!  Excellent!  Did the Maiden help?  I bet it did.!


Took my daughter to the slaughter, so to speak.  


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Quoted from khamanna
http://moviebytes.com/ContestDetail.cfm?StoryID=3912&ContestNumber=2258&NewsTab=TRUE

Someone posted this article on MoviePoet. Nothing we don't know but it's worth to go through it before we provide and receive all the feedback, I think.


Good points, but before you listen too much to that woman...

http://celluloidblonde.wordpress.com/2010/08/21/fear-loathing-in-competition-land/



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And I'm finished! I'll submit mine now. Can't wait to read them all.
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Nice job, Brian!  I was worried about you, but you pulled through in flying colors.

Looks like Ray is the only one who didn't come through and didn't take it seriously.  Oh well...we got a great turnout.

Fantastic work to all who completed scripts for this 7WC!

You all deserve a standing ovation...and golf clap.
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There's still time, no for those who hasn't done so, no? I say submit what you have (if we are allowed to), "hasn't finished" is okay (is it not?)!
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Yes...there are 9 hours left.

It's fine to post whatever one has in this 7 week period.  I'd actually recommend it, as opposed to submitting a script after the deadline.

The whole idea was to push ourselves to complete a first draft script in a set time period.  If this were a real life situation, I doubt something like, "I'll submit it in a few days, after the vacation weekend is over" would fly.  I doubt you'd have anymore opportunities, period.

So, do we have a final and firm count yet of people who have actually already submitted? And how many are taking it down to the wire?
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I desperately need to fix my ending, but yesterday Friday night happened and today...well, looks like football and beer so I'm not sure if I'll get it done, but I will definitely submit regardless.  


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Congrats to all. I'm still working on my script. Moving along nicely. But needs a serious rewrite. Even though i won't be able to submit my script today, i will submit soon.  I will see if i can read the submitted scripts.


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Folks,

I've received six scripts thus far as of 6:00 pm edt.  I think tonight is the due date.  I'll start posting them tomorrow.  If you got a cryptic email from me with the words "7WC" and "Received" that means I've received your script, opened up and got it ready to post.

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Sweet!  Thanks, Don.  You rock!

Pia, you can and WILL do it!  Your gators won easily, even though they looked like crap against a weakass team.  Hopefully, you're already drinking, now get to that ending.

5 1/2 hours to go!

Where's Ray?  C'mon, man!  Get it done!!!
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I'm on page 26 Jeff...don't think I'll have time to fix up the ending.

And you're right, the Gators looked VERY sloppy to say the least. It's going to be a looooong season. I didn't even feel like putting up my Gator avatar.  


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I'm sure they'll be fine.  The season just started.

You can do it.  Just drink heavily!!!!  It always helps.
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What if the ending is great and you just don't see it
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I anyone wants me to get a jump on reading their script, feel free to send it over via E-Mail.  Looks like a pitiful, nothing planned Saturday night for me.
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2 more hours!  Is 6 scripts the total we're going to have?  What happened to George?

Pia?  How you comin' along?  Pounding down some brews, I hope?
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I'm on page 39 Jeff, but the letters are floating together... I think I will have to submit it with a sucky ending.  


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I think George said he had to submit early beacuse he was going out of town this weekend.


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That's right about Georgie...so he must be 1 of the 6 scripts.

You can do it, Pia!  I know you can.  It'll be down to the wire, but I have the utmost faith in you.
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I'm going to lock this thread in a couple of hours and open a new one.  Just letting you know.
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Just submitted mine. Warts and all!


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Wow, from page 39 to submitted...amazing, Pia...amazing!

Great job everyone!
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not amazing at all...I just didn't change the second half at all. I ran out of time.  


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Oh well, that's OK.  You got it done and that's what counts.

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I'm the one who hasn't submitted yet.

Still tweaking it. It still sucks. Oh well.


FEATURE:

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Good job, Herman!  I love the determination!  taking it right down to the wire.

It doesn't suck.  You've done a great job in writing and conceiving a script in 7 weeks.  It's not easy and you should be proud of yourself.

1 hour remaining.

I guess our newest buddy, Ray, has bowed out and disappeared.  He's this 7WC's Baltis.

Oh well, good job again to all who finished.  Be proud...and have a nice, long pull on a drink!
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...and have a nice, long pull on a drink!


that's why I was unable to finish!  


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Submitted.

Anyone got to read Baltis' script last year?


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Anyone got to read Baltis' script last year?

No. We all loved him until he failed to live up to his bragging...


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I guess our newest buddy, Ray, has bowed out and disappeared.  He's this 7WC's Baltis.



You have me chuckling with these histrionics of yours.
Glad you have few enough responsibilities that you could get what you have turned in.
I'm sure whatever you had completed three weeks ago was gold and look forward to learning from you, as always.

Cheers.



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Everyone:
CONGRATULATIONS
on getting some hard work pounded out!


The various approaches to a theme should be quite fascinating to pick apart.
Ya'll have a great holiday.



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And there he is!  RAY!!!!!  HOORAY!!!!  BOO!! HISS!!!!  HOORAY...

Raymond, you chuckler, you.  What's the deal, bud?  You in?  You've been quiet today...busy writing, I assume...and hope.

I wasn't done 3 weeks ago.  It was last week.  All that glitters is not gold...
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Nice to see you're paying attention. It warms my cockles.
I started this project three weeks into it, four weeks ago, so just a wee bit of "Oh. Yeah". would be appropriate on your behalf.

You assume more than is prudent.

>> I wasn't done 3 weeks ago.  It was last week.  All that glitters is not gold... <<

Alas, by that measure I will have been done ahead of you by two full weeks.
Raspberries to you, Captain D!
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Now, we all know at least one major rewrite will be on deck for these. Not surprisingly, likely at least a third draft.

In the past have you guys moved on to complete a full package of drafting a synopsis, treatments and elevator/two min/ten min pitches?

What is the interest in developing such for this 7WC?

When Babz speaks of writers marketing themselves I take that to be reasonably serious and valid.
Anything else we can come to the table with?



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Come to the table with a finished script on the deadline and you will be gold raspberries.

Mellow, dude.  Seems like you've got something wedged deep up your ass, and that's too bad, cause it probably hurts like a bitch.

I've only been trying to help everyone finish by being supportive and keep focused on the deadline.

Sorry you have a problem with that.
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Paging Mister Pot!
Paging Mister Pot!
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Hey everybody...want to wish you all the best of luck completing your scripts.  It's no easy task for sure, and I failed miserably, and I apologize for that.  Funny, but sad...I really thought I'd have 2 completed scripts for this, and instead, I have ZERO pages.

Pitiful!

I'mmoutta here on Monday morning for my sister's place, outside of St. Louis.  I've got a long plane ride, so if anyone wants to E-Mail me their completed script, I can read it on the plane and provide feedback Tuesday (most likely).

First one in gets first read, if anyone's interested.  It will be a hard copy read, and my feedback will be based on memory alone, so no detailed page by page notes going on this time around.

OK, there we go.  Keep at it, you guys and gals.  I know you can do it!!!



And now more panties in a bunch.
Like I said the other day, I had concerns that you couldn't eat what you been serving.
I almost have a self-loathing for being able to read people that way, but when observations match predictions you know you have a good model.

I'm glad you finished this one.
I will, as well.



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Glad everyone kissed and made up.  

I'm locking this thread.  Use the new one.

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