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I submitted the new draft last week so I reckon Don will have it up soon. I'll post when its up.


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This is still the old draft but new one should be up soon.  Actually, having just checked I've added another 7 pages in the new draft so maybe there's a bit more than I remember. I did forget to change the date on the title page so it still reads 2010.


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Hey Alffy,

I'll give the new draft a read when it's posted.

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New draft is up. Thanks Don.


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Hey Alffy,

Sorry for the delay but stupid things called “work” and “family” got in the way.

Like I said in a previous post, this was the first feature length script I read on SS when I found the site back in October and I remember enjoying it so much. Have I change my mind…of course not!

It’s a brilliant little tale with lots of blood, humor and even handjobs. This will not be to everyone’s taste, a lot of the jokes and dialogue will fly straight over a lot of reader’s head who aren’t British.

I enjoyed the three main characters, they work together. We have the douche, the romantic and how would you describe Russ? Well, he likes a fag. They are just well written IMO, all the dialogue sounds natural between the guys and you can see these three down any local this weekend which I mean as a compliment.

On the other hand, all the rest of the characters struggle because so much emphasises is put on the three guys. Apart from the end reveal, we don’t get to know much about them; just they like to eat people. Not all of them needed a solid individual story but it would have been nice to see the Kelly and Gav storyline flourish before all hell broke loose. She could have told him about her mother and discussed some background on the village.

Also feel that in a filmed version, it would be hard to pull off with all the characters mainly in a single location, we rarely leave the pub, I’d say 75% of the script is at the pub one way or the other. There are different variations like beer garden, the lads room, kitchen but it still is the same pub at the end of the day. It could feel claustrophobic on screen, always in the same pub. Just a thought.

I do like the horror in this, it’s comedy graphic with heads being thrown into people’s groins and swinging bones like baseball bats, overall I think you did a good job with the action…however, I think the final fight could be tightened and more clear. It’s good visually but hard to get through with all the characters and things happening at one time.

I loved the dialogue and for me you’ve done an excellent job throughout, it read so natural and smooth.

Don’t know about the ending, the reveal of Kelly’s mother was a nice touch but as for the guys cooking the pies for the locals, I’m not sure. After all the vomiting they’ve done over seeing people get chopped up, to suddenly do it themselves seems farfetched but it fits the theme you were going for here.

The writing is good, I didn’t have much of a problem and breezed through the script in no time which I always think is a good thing. I read it in one sitting this afternoon. I really enjoyed this but maybe I’m biased as like I say this was the first script I read and for that reason, it holds a special place with me.

These are the notes I took during the read:


P. 1 Russ wearing all black with black hair, all I can picture is a goth and I don’t know if this is the impression you want?

P. 2 “the Slaughtered Lamb.” Fantastic.

P. 5 “Hi De Hi” I love the guys banter in this but could understand why our friends across the sea could struggle to follow some of it. It’s very British which appeals to me.

P.6 “A quaint setting with flock wallpaper, old wooden tables and chairs and black and white pictures decorate the walls.” To many “and’s” this sentence for me. Try to break it up with a period after chairs.

P.10 Russ finished his pint damn fast! Wish I could drink like that.

P.12 I wonder whether you need a change of slug or maybe just a mini slug or P.O.V shot here for Jason and Jess when Russ looks at them. I gather they are not in the beer garden.

P.14 “you’re lovely you aren’t you.” Not that there is anything wrong with this line of dialogue, it’s just I had to reread it because it came off confusing when first looked it over. Just a thought.

“fresh pint” Take out fresh, already mentioned they are fresh pints in the action before.

“She probably taking the piss.” I think “She’s” would read better here.

P.15 Like Mozza’s reaction to the room.

P.16 “Jess enters via the bar door.” This is a superfluous sentence as you end the scene straight after this line.

At page 35 now, one concern would be that the boys have been at the pub for 30 pages now which is 30 minutes on screen. Seems a long time to sustain characters in the same location. I understand there has been the variation of the beer garden and upstairs rooms but it’s still the same pub at the end of the day. Don’t know if you thought about adding a scene where the boys look around the town,

P.37                              GAV
                    But the coach doesn’t leave till
                    Sunday.

Till should be til I believe.

P.38 “Gobshite” great word! Takes me back to the playground.

P.40 “scythe” Now that’s a killing tool!

P.41 I do like Mozza punching Laura, something really funny in that for some reason. He looks around, takes in his situation, shrugs and BANG! Visually, it’s funny.

P.43 The way you have done the scene here with Russ and Howard is what I think you need to do in that earlier scene I mentioned. It will make it a lot more clearer IMO.

P.45 Till or til, not sure really but I always thought it was spelled til if shortened for until and till was a cash register. It’s just you have written “till” changed to “til” and then back to “till” over a few pages. I do like consistency, sorry if I am being too picky.

P.47 It’s a bit difficult to believe the boys would wait until the morning to leave, shit, I would be out of there in a heartbeat. I think you need a more convincing reason for them to stay put until the morning. Not sure what but it needs more IMO. I’ll think about it as I go on.

How did Colin end up in the village square? Wouldn’t he have asked in the pub for help? Ask them to ring the police as he can’t get reception on his phone? He has no idea anything is wrong yet? Just seems strange to look for your wife with a damaged ankle when you have an idea where she is? Did he even check their hotel room? He didn’t say so?

P.50 “He strides off towards the bus.” Thought it was a coach?

P.51 Here the slug is INT. BUS – DAY but the day when they arrived it was INT. COACH – DAY. There is a difference between the two vehicles; maybe there is a coach and a bus outside? Don’t think so but it needs to be consistent unless the reader will get confused. Keep all descriptions as coach IMO.

P.53 “INT. COACH – DAY” Now we’re back in the coach.

P.59 A long passage of time seems to have elapsed between Laura entering the pub, something to look at. She enters the door in one scene and then 4 pages later finally entering on the other side. Seems a tad too long for these scenes to come together is all.

P. 69                  MOZZA
             I’m gonna fucking brain him.

Like it!

“He silently speaks before falling backwards.” How could Jason fall backwards if he’s already on the floor?

P.75 “he wears his smart uniform.” Who else’s uniform would he be wearing?

Also at 75 pages, it feels so late to be introducing a new character, I think you should reference or intro Fraiser earlier in the script. I mean at 93 pages, it seems too late for me.
Edit: He never returns after this one scene, thought that was strange really because you could utilise this character more IMO.

P.76 “Gav follow.” Follows

P.82 “The engine noise dies and a car door slams closed.” Wouldn’t this (O.S) as well? Like the previously times.

P. 85                            MOZZA
                  We’ll, now I know what a Bernard
                  Matthews turkey feels like.

We’ll should be well but I do like this line, funny.

                                   MOZZA
                 Heads up.

Yes! Great pun.

The action in the kitchen at the end could be tightened to make it clearer, a lot of things are happening at once and that can come off as confusing. I found myself stopping to try and clarify where everyone would be in this scene.

Overall this is a fun piece and right up my alley, it won’t be for everyone but for someone who enjoyed movies like Severance and Shaun of the Dead, this is great.

I enjoyed it and glad I gave it another read.

Great work!

Steve
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Steve, thanks for the great review and I'm glad you enjoyed this.

I agree, not everyone will like this and some may miss a lot of the (British) gags.  Thanks for pointing out the Bus/Coach mistakes, I thought I'd changed them all but I guess I missed a few lol.

I tried to keep a good load of comedy in here but also some nice gory scenes too.  I also agree that the final scene can be a bit confusing with a lot going on in a single location but I struggled to keep it as clear as it is now.

As for most of it being set in the pub; I never set out to do this intentionally but I can see how it could become a bit repetitive.

Thanks for the read and good feedback.  If you want me to give anything of yours a read just pm me.


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Quoted from alffy
Thanks for pointing out the Bus/Coach mistakes, I thought I'd changed them all but I guess I missed a few lol.


It doesn't matter how many times we proof read our work, there's always something we missed.

Glad I was able help, I'm curious, how come it fell through with the director if you don't mind me asking? Was it certain things he didn't like about the script or other reasons like finance or whatever?

Steve

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To be honest, Steve I think he was yanking my chain. He said he loved it but could I make a few changes and add a few scenes which I did. Then he wanted a treatment so I wrote one and then he said it read too much like a comedy? I was left baffled lol


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Hey Anthony,

Glad to see the new draft is getting some attention.
Good to see you bouncing about the forums these days!

I'll read this in chunks, as my work schedule allows.
"Fresh eyes" notes as I go with a few thoughts to sum up is how I like to roll.

P. 7
Mozza's dialogue.
"The Slaughtered Lamb probably."

Is that a reference to a certain John Landis film?

P. 8
I'm a little surprised we haven't learned more about our protags yet.
Assuming there's lots of character related plot reasons for the trip.
There's situations at home that could be discussed to color the characters, etc.
Something like that would help me learn who these blokes are.

P. 9
Villagers emerge during the day...
Well, that rules out the coach delivering our heroes to be a vampire snack.
Since most folks are "pensioners", could be a nice food scheme for leeches!

P. 14
Kelly and Jess have a wee dust up.
I feel like I know more about them than I do about our trio of lads.
It's getting a little frustrating for me. I want to learn about the guys.

I'm stopping at page twenty today.
I have to say, your pages read pretty smoothly.
I wasn't confused or tripped up by much of anything.

However, I didn't find the story engaging.
I got increasingly frustrated as I went on, actually.
I learned more about your supporting characters than I did about the protags.

The Butcher and the boy have a tense relationship.
Colin's self absorbed and his girl is a bit mousey and puts up with a lot of junk.
These interactions have something the protag scenes don't: CONFLICT.

I think your protags didn't grab me, because there's no conflict in their scenes.
Sure, there's complaining, judging, joking and all that.
But I didn't learn hardly anything about their backgrounds or history.
All they seem to want out of life is a pint and a bird.

I think if you set up a back story for them, it could breed some conflict.
I don't get a sense of the shorthand that mates typically have with each other.
And there's nothing in the opener to give me any clues to that either.
Mozza, Gav and Russ sound the same to me, almost identical.  

Maybe I'm being a little tough due to the nature of what I'm currently writing.
It's a spec that's aimed at the studio system. It's gotta be "killer" and all that stuff.
But I didn't get a whiff of a character story to support the journey.
Without that, I'm unsure what your script's about and it's already 20% gone.

Hope this helps.

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E.D. You have a good point. I did initially have a few scenes before they are on the coach but I dropped them. They told a little bit about the characters so maybe I should have left them in? I think I dropped them as I thought they didnt really fit with the comedy that follows. I hope you continue reading though and find some enjoyment in it. Thanks for reading so far.


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Quoted from alffy
E.D. You have a good point. I did initially have a few scenes before they are on the coach but I dropped them. They told a little bit about the characters so maybe I should have left them in? I think I dropped them as I thought they didnt really fit with the comedy that follows. I hope you continue reading though and find some enjoyment in it. Thanks for reading so far.


Hey Alffy,

Big apologies for giving the impression I was dropping the script.
I assure you, that's not the case.
I'll get back on this post haste.

LOL! I didn't even know this was in horror.
I guess after the first 20 pages things go south!

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Perhaps it should be comedy/horror rather than horror/comedy lol. It does get more horror but never strays too far from comedy.


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Hey Anthony,

My apologies for letting your script get shuffled in the jumble that is my life.

It's a big red flag that I had no idea what your genre was by page 20.
That's something you may want to revisit.
Maybe give the audience a tasty grabber to start. Consider it.
Could help alleviate impatience as your script unfolds.

Okay, picking up from page 20, let's see how this little village fares...

P. 22
The pie thing was a little obvious.
Perhaps taking that to an absurd level would be better?
Say, locals in the pub dissuade the boys as well. All eyes on them.
The boys assume it's a weird local thing, shrug it off, for now.

P. 25
Word missing here in Gav's dialogue...
Why do feel the need to have a go
at everyone you meet?


P. 26
Why give the outsiders the meat cooked uber rare?
Makes no sense if the proprietor wants to keep things on the down low.

Okay got to page 40 today.... and I still can't tell this tale has any horror at all.
If you're looking to get this produced, that's a big problem IMO.

For example, people ding me on Zombie Playground for the following:

The main protags don't get attacked by zombies until the script's half over.
But...there's loads of gooey zombie chaos earlier in the script...

Page two, the origin of the zombie effect is introduced.
Page eight, the zombie effect spreads through FigCorp.
Page twenty-two, the zombies take over FigCorp.
Page thirty, the zombie effect spreads through the playground.
Page forty, the zombie army overruns the playground.

All that in the first forty pages.
Tons of genre content for all, and yet, I still get those notes. Why?
Likely because I don't directly endanger my hero until the halfway point.

Given all that, and you're dealing with a similar set up and genre picture...
You can see why I think your script isn't up to speed, plot wise.

Straight up genre pictures gotta keep the plot chugging along.
And I don't get a sense of that urgency in the script so far.
I'll continue much sooner than this round took to get to.

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Hey E.D.

I get what you are saying about there not being much horror in the opening part of the story but that was my intention. I wanted the viewer/reader to enjoy the comedic characters and then shift the focus onto the horror in the situation they find themselves.  I hope you stick with it and gave me your final thoughts, even if it's not 'floating your boat' at the moment.


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Hey Anthony,

Back on this now that the OWCness has settled for the most part.
I'll pick this up from page forty today...

P. 41
I like Gav's line to Kelly about how it's okay to have a go anyway.

P. 46
Seems a little convenient that Laura can't reach the knife.
Perhaps if Moz's exuberance shifts it around just out of reach.
A sight gag like that might help.

P. 53
Here's the type of offender that grates me with this script...
Four pages to debate WHEN our protags will leave the town, not if.
Doesn't do much for me, and I'm inclined to believe others will lose patience too.
That's a whole lot of time spent on an inevitable plot point.

P. 55
After seeing more threats, it makes little sense to me to stay the night.
Attempted murder, bodies being dragged about...
Think it's time to call the coppers if I were in that town.

P. 57
These guys had all night to formulate and plan of escape...
And only now at breakfast does it get brought up?
This feels monumentally thick of them to me.

Stopping at page sixty today...

I felt there were some real bonehead plot moves in this segment.
Namely, the idea of spending the night after the murderous reveals.

Not to mention, the script doesn't show us how scared they are...
Like kids huddled together in the night, some kind of cause and effect emotions.

I'd recommend drastic changes to this overnight scenario.
Consider something that makes your protags less dumb and lazy...

Give them a mission... the script is starving for some momentum IMO.
How about the boys decide to steal the bus under the cover of night?

A mission with a clear goal the reader can get invested in.
They sneak out there, fumble and bicker their way into the bus.
While out there, they see more grisly stuff from their hidden location.
They have to keep a lid on their shock and fear.
The guys overhear a critical plot point while hidden, etc.
To me, something like that is much more conducive to a horror comedy.

Hope this helps.

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