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Are you sure about that, Greg? If you read the review James left for Captive, it would lead me to think otherwise. Bringing up the weaknesses in the script and then declaring it his favorite. If his intention was to throw everyone off, it worked.
Oh this Captive thing is driving me crazy. E.D. please pm me and tell me who wrote it so I can get other things done. I won't tell anyone else. Cheers.
Are you sure about that, Greg? If you read the review James left for Captive, it would lead me to think otherwise. Bringing up the weaknesses in the script and then declaring it his favorite. If his intention was to throw everyone off, it worked.
Ah, a classic SS trick. The other side of the coin would be to declare it the worst of the bunch to throw everyone off as well.
I dunno, the script just seemed like his writing. Or maybe it was Alan Holman's.
Wild Ginger's Wine. Such a cool title. Such a unique way you did this one. Good on ya.
Sandra
I'm starting the responses in that thread; the format was unintended. I was caught stacking. That was my mess up.
BTW, I did rewrite and correct it, the new version will be up in a few days if not sooner. The ending is also different and the three human characters have a little fleshing out.
I'm starting to think it may be someone who recently joined up, Bert. Maybe not newbie to writing, but just to SS.
Ok then. Extraterrestrials from the planet Ohzod wrote Captive. There's a large lag in their internet connection which is why they haven't responded yet.
It is understandable that people choose to work with or hire people that they have worked with before, people they trust. I don't think that should really be a part of the process here, however. It was set up as a Challenge, a contest.
If one's resume and biography was to be a part of it, then do it differently. Invite people to post with their info.
If you want this to maintain its credibility, you'll want to encourage the notion that the producer will pick the script he likes best. Which is what I think happened, but the other remarks suggest something more complicated.
I ask this innocently: how thickly collaborative is a short? How much does the director need from the writer once he decides on the story?
If there is more work needed on a script, and for some reason the author became unavailable, could not another writer step in and help?
I think there should be a little benefit of the doubt given on writers submitting a short. They would for the most be eager to see their work produced, so would be active in the process. But if in the unlikely event that turned out to be not the case, the producer would figure that out quickly, and either get another writer to help, or move on to another script.
There is already a sense in this industry that if you don't know someone and haven't been produced yet, it's very difficult to break in. People enter contests like this because there is a hope they will be a little different. Reading Rick's posts, I had the sense he was being very fair, looking for what matched his vision. I just hope it stays that way in the future.
There's no dodginess going on...but I understand why you were worried.
The OWCs aren't competitions, they were created by a board member as a challenge. The prime purpose of them was for people to comment anonymously on the scripts so that the writers could improve.
Some people would enter and never give feedback, so they became known as leeches...taking feedback but giving nothing back.
In this particular one there was a "prize" of sorts...and it's natural that Bert hoped that a script that got so much attention was by a regular who has contributed a lot, rather than someone who has just signed up for the contest and will never say anything on the board.
I just read Wonka's rewrite of Territory. She really added a lot to it, very nice improvement. I think she's going to repost soon, hope people take another look. The first scene is all new.
There's no dodginess going on...but I understand why you were worried.
The OWCs aren't competitions, they were created by a board member as a challenge. The prime purpose of them was for people to comment anonymously on the scripts so that the writers could improve.
Some people would enter and never give feedback, so they became known as leeches...taking feedback but giving nothing back.
In this particular one there was a "prize" of sorts...and it's natural that Bert hoped that a script that got so much attention was by a regular who has contributed a lot, rather than someone who has just signed up for the contest and will never say anything on the board.
Rick.
And to add on to this -- Rick's choice is not really considered a part of the OWC. He might have set the goal for the challenge and as a result he has a pool of scripts he could choose from (if he wanted one). But the OWC is the process of script creation over a short period of time, not the outcome of the script actually being chosen for production.
In a sense because Rick was looking for a script you get a better OWC experience because you are getting an actual production request and you feel that your script has a possibility of being produced at the end. You take it more seriously.
However, the OWC and Rick's production are only associated via timing and in no other way.
Wow, I went to the beach and you're still guessing. Well, I've had my fun, so here's the reveal. I hope he won't mind being outed. I will say this, he did greatly appreciate the heated debate on the thread by members. He's a good bloke and wants to contribute more, film school makes it tough.
Well said Rick, and I was very impressed with how it was run. I've posted a lot on the Challenge, and pretty much all positive. I also trust Bert, and the fact that he posted his concern in the open when he could have used PM suggests action of integrity. Great job, I learned a lot, and I am busy doing reads for people. I've sent in my own rewrite of SL and I think we're all working together to get better. My post above was a response to some other remarks. I'm looking forward to the film!
Ok then. Extraterrestrials from the planet Ohzod wrote Captive. There's a large lag in their internet connection which is why they haven't responded yet.
No. It was Ohrod's third moon... Seriously, reason I think it's recent member is because the runner up was. Of course, it may be a SS vet----they love seeing you go dizzy!
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