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It seems like this is a thanksgiving dinner where every board/family member pissed on the other's shoes upon entering the house. Why is everyone so upset these days?
No, Baltis. I didn't piss on the shoes. It looks like I peed on the turkey. >
Im kind of with Darren, after so many previous comments whats the point of basically saying the same thing a lot of other people already did. But I do admit I havent read them all yet, and its getting tougher lol. I will make it though, just not saying what year. :]
DJS, I don't think Jeff should've singled you out. I think you did your fair share of reading. Plus, since jeff is my temporary nemesis, I like to piss him off.
Don't take it personal, I'm sure he's referring to the amount of reads you give on the daily boards, I've said it too. You post alot of scripts, you've got some writing chops, and you didn't review much in the beginning. You're doing a good deal more now.
Jeff's a good reviewer. Even if he tears your script to shreads, there's still some good points in it. Don't alienate him. You might want to seek his advice if you ever write a feature. I know I would.
Let me add to what I posted above. Maybe its a good idea to say something, even if just "congrates for doing it". Dunno, I do think we have the right to comment or not, I dont think theres a rule about it, or is there?
Threre's no rule, But I thought anyone who participates should at least comment on three scripts. I think that used to be mentioned at the start of the OWC. DJS is an active board member and did more than his fair share this Go 'round. I know he read mine.
The thing is if you read and commented on all scripts you may say so. If you did not comment on all scripts and saying you are - this is simply not true. (there's a reason I'm saying that)
I'm not up for pinpointing and singling out but if you are saying you commented on all and you didn't - you are not being truthful that's all.
I'm sorry to upset anyone. Why not just say I read them all but did not comment on all?
Tastes great...less filling. I'm getting ready to jump the bar!
I think when the names are released this argument will end on its own, as people will have stuff to do again. Once the authors get to chime and explain their scripts, that should keep us busy.
BTW, I have a rewrite on my script, and if anyone else has done the same and wants to exchange reads before resubmitting, let me know.
Darren (and everyone else), sorry for calling you out, but I just found it incredibly strange that you would, or even could list 2 of the poorer scripts in this batch as your Top 5 favorites. It made me think you must not have read very many, if those are what stuck out in your head. Sorry. To each is own, and I do understand and respect that.
BUT, it's even stranger to me to think that you (or anyone else) would take the time to read a script and then not comment...at least just to say, "Hey, I read your script, congrats on completing an OWC...not much else to add." I just don't get this philosophy or lazyass attitude.
It's shocking to me that you can't come up with at least 1 unique comment or perspective after reading a script. Maybe you're just a really poor reader and reviewer and maybe you're doing us all a favor when you choose not to leave any feedback. I don't know..
I'll be the first to admit that I haven't read every entry yet...but I'm trying, and I leave pretty extensive feedback on everything I open up, whether or not I get past Page 2. I do this because I want to help the writer. I want to throw out feedback from a different angle than he's going to otherwise hear. I want to throw out Kudos for well written and/or put together scripts, and I want to be 100% clear when a script is written poorly or thrown together without any thought or consideration for the readers.
I don't think it's asking alot to expect the same in return, but maybe it is. Nothing personal, man.
I liked many in this OWC, probably many could be good films, quite a few of the scripts had haunting scenes that will linger with me. These are my favorites, in no special order.
Cailliiix The Pond The Flesh Won't Be Missed Frame Of The Open Door Devil's Erudition Bell Tolls Bean Sidhe
I have read every script(except maybe the DingFlash one, which I read partially), and to be honest, until I see the authors replies to questions, I can't really submit a list of favs. There are several scripts that, though extremely well written, have problematic stories. In some cases the stories lack depth or thematic content, which was requested for this challenge. In other cases the characters are uninteresting. And in many the story just doesn't make sense to me.
For some of these stories, maybe the author's explanation will be enough to convince me. Or maybe just a little tweaking of the story will clear things up. For any writer willing to do those things, I am ready to look closely at any story with a fresh mind.
There is another category of entry to consider as well. Several submissions had good stories, but need work on the writing. I am not so much talking about stuff like action lines, which obviously don't get in the film. But where the veteran writers make dialogue sound much more natural, newer writers, such as myself, have to be very careful. One poorly phrased line will sink a film. So with these, again, need to see rewrites first.
Without rewrites or author clarifications, in my amateur opinion, I can't find one script that really works. I just can't. But my mind is open to arguments, and I look forward to the next stage of the process.
Darren (and everyone else), sorry for calling you out, but I just found it incredibly strange that you would, or even could list 2 of the poorer scripts in this batch as your Top 5 favorites. It made me think you must not have read very many, if those are what stuck out in your head. Sorry. To each is own, and I do understand and respect that.
BUT, it's even stranger to me to think that you (or anyone else) would take the time to read a script and then not comment...at least just to say, "Hey, I read your script, congrats on completing an OWC...not much else to add." I just don't get this philosophy or lazyass attitude.
It's shocking to me that you can't come up with at least 1 unique comment or perspective after reading a script. Maybe you're just a really poor reader and reviewer and maybe you're doing us all a favor when you choose not to leave any feedback. I don't know..
Granted, On the one script I was a bit dismayed by page 8...wait a sec...what did you say??
Do you want edit that comment of yours in any way, shape or form? Do so, I will edit/delete this.
I'll tell you this much Jeff- a regular member msged me and requested to give your script another look and suggested to comment on it if I can. I said I would. A few minutes later, you helped me change my mind. By the way, while I felt some of the writing was good, my feelings on it remained the same and all my questions like before were raised by others. I did note one thing extra that nobody else mentioned, but I chose not to post it. I even had second thoughts a few minutes ago to post it but I did not- I felt it (my comment) looked too mean spirited/tainted and I deleted it. Not that it would mean two cents to you anyway.
Reading a short script (give or take 10 pages) and not commenting is one thing; not much of one's time is used up (depends on the script I guess) Do you actually think that everyone who reads a short script here comments on that script? But now it's beyond that; my comments, short or long are of no help to anyone.
Thank you, kind sir, for smashing my knuckles with your big ruler.