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LC
Posted: February 25th, 2015, 6:04pm Report to Moderator
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I just can't be asked most of the time, which is unprofessional, I know.  

Lee, did auto-correct just correct your arse?

Just a note on pitches. I think the pitch should be as original as hopefully the script is.  I think one of the best selling points for a script is if it isn't likened to anything that came before it.

Ideally your film/script should be the one that is emulated in later pitches - and yet it shouldn't be... get what I mean?

Oh, if only...

Be original in your pitch - try not using the: 'this is SAW meets ORPHAN pitch (we've seen those films and they were entertaining, but this is something altogether fresh and original and scare the pants of you, right? See what you come up with when you don't compare it to something else.


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Great advice LC


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Ledbetter
Posted: February 25th, 2015, 11:33pm Report to Moderator
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Carson,
You once mentioned in one of your articles...

Carson,
You once gave a review about...

Carson,
A couple of weeks ago, you commented on...

And then give an example of how your work may come along side of his suggestions.

Get it?

Carson, like anyone, wants to know that what he's putting out there is helping others.

If you give him a sincere example of how his work has helped yours, he will listen.

It's not so much a trick as it is acknowledgement of what he's trying to accomplish with those he's trying to help.

Shawn.....><

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Dustin
Posted: February 26th, 2015, 2:46am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Ledbetter

Carson,
You once mentioned in one of your articles...

Carson,
You once gave a review about...

Carson,
A couple of weeks ago, you commented on...

And then give an example of how your work may come along side of his suggestions.

Get it?

Carson, like anyone, wants to know that what he's putting out there is helping others.

If you give him a sincere example of how his work has helped yours, he will listen.

It's not so much a trick as it is acknowledgement of what he's trying to accomplish with those he's trying to help.

Shawn.....><



I thought he was looking for the next great script not a dick suck?


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Quoted from LC

Lee, did auto-correct just correct your arse?

Just a note on pitches. I think the pitch should be as original as hopefully the script is.  I think one of the best selling points for a script is if it isn't likened to anything that came before it.

Ideally your film/script should be the one that is emulated in later pitches - and yet it shouldn't be... get what I mean?

Oh, if only...

Be original in your pitch - try not using the: 'this is SAW meets ORPHAN pitch (we've seen those films and they were entertaining, but this is something altogether fresh and original and scare the pants of you, right? See what you come up with when you don't compare it to something else.


Nope, I most certainly typed "asked", lol.

Great words on pitching though.  Guess the best way to pitch an idea is to just pitch THE idea.  
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Ledbetter
Posted: February 26th, 2015, 7:34am Report to Moderator
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I thought he was looking for the next great script not a dick suck?



You think I'm talking about kissing his ring?

Nothing's farther from the truth.

When a producer contacts you and is interested in your work, what is usually the first thing you do?

Look 'em up. See what they done.

And in a conversation with said producer, isn't it good practice to maybe mention that you know of some of the work this person has done?

In the business arena, it's the same. When I'm about to go to a conference, I look up the CEO's and CFO's I know I'm going to be meeting with.

People here are talking about how to get Carson's attention. Treat him like the CEO and find some things out about him.

It's a competitive edge. And it's polite.

Not dick sucking.

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Dustin
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People here are talking about how to get Carson's attention.



Hey Carson... got a great story I want to pitch to you, but first, I must say your hair looked fantastic when you left KFC last Friday. I followed you home - to make sure no harm befell you - and couldn't help but admire the wallpaper in your living room. So, as you took a shower, I tried the back door (not that back door, cheeky) and found it was open (hint, hint). I had a little snoop around, played the xbox, read some of your fine literature, then crept upstairs to your bedroom where you were sleeping like a baby. I lay next to you for a little while. I was going to stay until you woke up but thought it might come across as a little creepy. Anyway, you have great taste in just about everything. Just thought I'd throw that out there before I get to the pitch... y'know, just so you notice me.


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Hey Carson... got a great story I want to pitch to you, but first, I must say your hair looked fantastic when you left KFC last Friday. I followed you home - to make sure no harm befell you - and couldn't help but admire the wallpaper in your living room. So, as you took a shower, I tried the back door (not that back door, cheeky) and found it was open (hint, hint). I had a little snoop around, played the xbox, read some of your fine literature, then crept upstairs to your bedroom where you were sleeping like a baby. I lay next to you for a little while. I was going to stay until you woke up but thought it might come across as a little creepy. Anyway, you have great taste in just about everything. Just thought I'd throw that out there before I get to the pitch... y'know, just so you notice me.


That is very short-sighted, Dustin, and it is not how the world works.

Led's advice is spot-on.

Why not let Carson know you are familiar with his work -- as opposed to someone who heard of his contest third-hand and is simply jumping aboard the Scriptshadow train now -- after he has been slogging about the web for years?

You exercise every advantage at your disposal.  It is foolish not to.


Hey, it's my tiny, little IMDb!
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Dustin
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That is very short-sighted, Dustin, and it is not how the world works.

Led's advice is spot-on.

Why not let Carson know you are familiar with his work -- as opposed to someone who heard of his contest third-hand and is simply jumping aboard the Scriptshadow train now -- after he has been slogging about the web for years?

You exercise every advantage at your disposal.  It is foolish not to.


I don't agree that ass kissing is the way to go. You can butter it over any way you want, but it's ass kissing. I find ass kissers abhorrent even when it's my ass being kissed. Yes, I do know what that is like... figuratively speaking.

My strategy will be simple and to the point:

Here's my idea, here's why it is great. The end.


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Quoted from Dustin
My strategy will be simple and to the point:


Congratulations... I guess? Just do me a favor, Dustin. If you win, don't be Troy Duffy incarnate. It was bad enough the first time.


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Best of luck to you, Dustin. You do have an advantage over many of the writers here.

Your writing is superb and with as many screenplays under your belt, you most certainly know your way around the system.

Those are things that will get you ahead in this industry.

And with such accomplishments as Savannah Studios producing independent films such as ALL ABOUT JANE, you are poised for what should be a break out year.

Like you mentioned in your bio…

Good scripts are the backbone of great film. We’re lucky to have him.

True words. Well spoken.

Good luck in the contest.

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I don't agree that ass kissing is the way to go.


Ha...we'll agree to disagree.  No worries.

You call it ass-kissing.  I call it simple respect.  Two sides to any story.


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Congratulations... I guess? Just do me a favor, Dustin. If you win, don't be Troy Duffy incarnate. It was bad enough the first time.


It's shit like this that almost makes me regret giving out quality advice. If you've got legitimate arguments then make them and quit with the ignoramus ad hominem.

When pitching it is always better to keep things simple and to the point... especially something like this where writers being allowed two pitches could mean he has to read thousands of them.


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When pitching it is always better to keep things simple and to the point... especially something like this where writers being allowed two pitches could mean he has to read thousands of them.


Works just as well as a counter-argument, really. Some common courtesy can go a long way to have him focus on the pitch more after reading a dozen boring pitches and it's just good strategy. Consciously or subconsciously, if you mention that you've read ScriptShadow for a fair amount of time or mention an article he's written, even if you haven't actually read them... he could be far more inclined to believe that the script meets his standards, turning an average pitch into just slightly above an average pitch in his eyes. As writers, masking it in there without sounding like kissing ass, even if that really is the motive, shouldn't be all that challenging.

It doesn't have to be seperate from the pitch itself, it can be incorporated into it. For example - adding something in the lines of: "after honing my skills for years through ScriptShadow and other sites dedicated to screenwriting I felt ready to tell a story actually important to me" if talking about the motivations and origins on why the writer wrote this story could be a big benefit.

Great advice, Led, IMO.
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I don't know the guy, but I doubt he cares whether I'm familar with him or ScriptShadow.

The story I'm pitching either interests him or it doesn't.

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