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Posted: February 27th, 2015, 8:50am Report to Moderator
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It's called show business. You provide a service, and they pay you for it.

And, I'd rather get paid for writing than a whole bunch of other jobs I can think of.

Btw Lee, I respect your opinion, I just don't really understand it if writing is what you want to do with your life/time... Is it?



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It's called show business. You provide a service, and they pay you for it.

And, I'd rather get paid for writing than a whole bunch of other jobs I can think of.

Btw Lee, I respect your opinion, I just don't really understand it if writing is what you want to do with your life/time... Is it?


Definitely is, I just see it as more of a game of imaginative conception rather than a job that pays by the bucket load.

I'd rather sell 10 scripts at $100 a time than 1 script at $1,000.   Simple reason.

Say I'm going up against a writer with a representing agent.  We both have a horror script that fits the producer's call.  Both scripts have quality and production value.  The other writer states his/her amount, and I HALVE my cost.

That's my business strategy.  Outsell by selling cheaper.  Consider it like some of those bargain deals you come across at a supermarket.  2 for the price of 1.
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I'd rather sell 10 scripts at $100 a time than 1 script at $1,000.   Simple reason.

Say I'm going up against a writer with a representing agent.  We both have a horror script that fits the producer's call.  Both scripts have quality and production value.  The other writer states his/her amount, and I HALVE my cost.

That's my business strategy.  Outsell by selling cheaper.  Consider it like some of those bargain deals you come across at a supermarket.  2 for the price of 1.


Producers will pay for the better script, not the cheapest one.

Sounds like your strategy is being like Wal-Mart or McDonalds by being the cheapest. Problem with that is that you have sell huge volumes.

You do what you want of course, but it makes no sense at all. Really strange strategy.



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You do what you want of course, but it makes no sense at all. Really strange strategy.



I agree. If you don't show others that you value your own work, why would you expect them to?
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Yeah, sorry I'm with Angry Bear/Demento.

I'm also not sure that you are not going to get into the competitor situation you envisage...
I believe a producer will want to make your script or not, the option and sale prices will be a product of the finances they have available and you run the risk of selling yourself short with your strategy.

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He's asking to get raped. Monetarily speaking.

Writers already have a hard time fighting for what they are due. Some very popular films out there that still need to pay off millions in so called expenses before they see a so called profit. Yet all the top boys get paid. The writer gets shuffled out. Which is not very nice.

Not only should you be making sure you get what is due, you should also try your hardest to ensure that you get paid out of the profits somehow... and not a piddling (non existent) 3% of producer profits (after mammoth expenses).


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Not to beat this to death, but I'm not sure Mr. Leegion has sorted this out in his own mind.

First, he said he didn't think it's "right" to be paid $5,000. He  referred to that as "extortion" by the writer. He said, "I write for free."

Then he switched -- it's a  "marketing strategy."  Cut his price, sell more scripts.

Oh.

Let us know how it works out.

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In the States, if a studio buys a script below the WGA minimum rate, they tend to have union problems on the production.
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He's asking to get raped. Monetarily speaking.

Writers already have a hard time fighting for what they are due. Some very popular films out there that still need to pay off millions in so called expenses before they see a so called profit. Yet all the top boys get paid. The writer gets shuffled out. Which is not very nice.

Not only should you be making sure you get what is due, you should also try your hardest to ensure that you get paid out of the profits somehow... and not a piddling (non existent) 3% of producer profits (after mammoth expenses).


Writers do have a hard time ... that's why there's one thing more important to me than money in this profession.  A guarantee that my script stays MINE post-production.  If they can't guarantee me that, then they can shove their check where the sun doesn't shine because I won't be interested anymore.

Truth be told, I couldn't give a rat's backside how many digits are on the check if the script I gave to a company winds up in some bargain bin because an idiotic director tried to make it "their vision" rather than mine.

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Not to beat this to death, but I'm not sure Mr. Leegion has sorted this out in his own mind.

First, he said he didn't think it's "right" to be paid $5,000. He  referred to that as "extortion" by the writer. He said, "I write for free."

Then he switched -- it's a  "marketing strategy."  Cut his price, sell more scripts.

Oh.

Let us know how it works out.

Henry


They're two totally different beasts.

I'd rather win the competition just to say I won the competition.  I'm not going to accept money so someone can "option" my script for a year in hope that it gets bought by a production company, because if it doesn't, they paid for nothing, and that's wrong.

When I'm selling my script, I'm not just selling a script, I'm selling part of the best thing a writer owns ... a piece of my imagination.  I want some compensation for it, but before that, I want something worth more than money.  A guarantee that the script remains loyal to itself and doesn't become the deformed brainchild of a lazy director who strays from the blueprint I've laid out for them.

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I definitely care about being successful ... I just value my work MORE than any amount you could put on a check.  

I'll sell for half the cost, if assurances can be made that the script is treated respectfully.
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As a newbie - this thread has been a fascinating read. At least IMO, the pertinent question is  - how relevant is a screenwriters self assessment of the value of their work?

I suppose in the sense of self fulfillment the pursuit of artistry or some other inner reward, how one values their own script means everything. However, my gut tells me that in terms of the business of selling scripts, what personal value you put on your work product means absolutely nothing.  I can't imagine that any Producer or Director gives two shits about how we value our scripts. They want to make money. If they make art along the way - great - but it's not a prerequisite. If they need to change your work to make money - they will because they are spending their money to make the film.

I would like to think that someone would find my work good enough to make a film that reflects my vision. However, if they don't, I certainly know that there is a level of cash that would help in soothing my sense of violation. Since I have never had anything optioned and am a total wannabe - I would take the $5K in a heartbeat. Different strokes I guess.




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... I certainly know that there is a level of cash that would help in soothing my sense of violation.  ...

Quote of the day methinks.
Made me chuckle but also, oh, so true.  


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I go a bit overboard sometimes, don't I?  This is what happens when you don't go to sleep like a normal person and spend 30+ hours awake, Lee.  You contradict yourself at every turn and make yourself look stupid, lol.

I'm gonna go count the sheep and put what's left of my brain asleep.
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I go a bit overboard sometimes, don't I?  


Not necessarily - just a different point of view - although - 30 hours is a very long time


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Writers do have a hard time ... that's why there's one thing more important to me than money in this profession.  A guarantee that my script stays MINE post-production.  If they can't guarantee me that, then they can shove their check where the sun doesn't shine because I won't be interested anymore.

When I'm selling my script, I'm not just selling a script, I'm selling part of the best thing a writer owns ... a piece of my imagination.  I want some compensation for it, but before that, I want something worth more than money.  A guarantee that the script remains loyal to itself and doesn't become the deformed brainchild of a lazy director who strays from the blueprint I've laid out for them.

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I definitely care about being successful ... I just value my work MORE than any amount you could put on a check.  

I'll sell for half the cost, if assurances can be made that the script is treated respectfully.


You're pretty much asking for final cut... on a screenplay? That the script remains the same during shooting? Good luck with that.

Writers are great and everything, but we only provide a blueprint. Sometimes a very vague one. We're giving them to directors, producers to make these stories "real", and sometimes you have to bite the bullet. It's unlikely a script is adapted onscreen exactly as the writer intended without compromise.

Having said that... I do know some producers will say "we want you on site to make sure everything keeps to plan", but you still have to be able to be versatile. It should be a "shared vision" between everyone, way before shooting even begins, but things happen and you have to be prepared for the worst.

Regarding money... I'd write anything for a cheque. But that's just me. Perhaps you're loaded already. Fair enough.



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I want some compensation for it, but before that, I want something worth more than money.  A guarantee that the script remains loyal to itself and doesn't become the deformed brainchild of a lazy director who strays from the blueprint I've laid out for them.


I think you'll find that this is an uphill battle that you'll wind up losing most of the time. So, you better make sure that you at least got paid for your troubles.
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