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Dig away, it was literally written in 2 weeks and at a final draft in 3

It's definitely an interesting exercise IMO, but in reality scripts can be pretty subjective so people might like it for none of the reasons I baked in or hate it for all the same reasons. I'll never actually know. All I do know is that I banged out a feature with no planning, minimal effort with the express purpose of making it socially palatable in today's climate.

Wow. Good for you, Warren! You will get some feedback though if you've paid for it, right?
Curious what genre it is...
You've piqued my interest. Good luck with it.



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Yeah.... those guidelines for nomination perfectly paint the line from good intent to insanity.



I read the guidelines. I don't know why, but it reminded me of a quote from the Doorman on Knocked Up

"I'm only allowed to let in 5% black people. He said that, 5%. That means if there are 25 people here I get to let in one and a quarter black people. So I gotta hope there's a black midget in the crowd."

But that has nothing to do with anything, so to make my comment valid I will say...

Good luck, Warren. Will be interesting to see how it does.




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Quoted from Warren


Dig away, it was literally written in 2 weeks and at a final draft in 3

It's definitely an interesting exercise IMO, but in reality scripts can be pretty subjective so people might like it for none of the reasons I baked in or hate it for all the same reasons. I'll never actually know. All I do know is that I banged out a feature with no planning, minimal effort with the express purpose of making it socially palatable in today's climate.


Just imagine if it actually does so well you become the go-to-guy for that kind of thing whilst the screenplays you’ve actually bled for go unnoticed.


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Wow. Good for you, Warren! You will get some feedback though if you've paid for it, right?
Curious what genre it is...
You've piqued my interest. Good luck with it.



These comps are expensive enough as is ($114AUD), I generally don't pay extra for the notes.

It's a drama, I'm happy to send it over if you want a read. I'm not looking for any notes though as I don't plan to do anything else with it.

Thanks, can't imagine it will do well but we'll see.


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Good luck, Warren. Will be interesting to see how it does.




Thanks, you and me both.


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Just imagine if it actually does so well you become the go-to-guy for that kind of thing whilst the screenplays you’ve actually bled for go unnoticed.


I've only ever submitted one other script to the Fellowship, one I think is 100x stronger than this and that didn't even make it off the starting blocks. It was a script I worked on for almost 3 years and was heavily shaped by Dave's input.


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... It's a drama, I'm happy to send it over if you want a read. I'm not looking for any notes though as I don't plan to do anything else with it...

Would love to read it, Warren! No notes needed - cool.
Send it on down.  


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Would love to read it, Warren! No notes needed - cool.
Send it on down.  


Will send it over when I get home from work


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Well, they're pretty late on announcing the quarter-finals.

I, against my better judgement, put two thrillers in.

Just read that link on inclusion rules, Warren. I think it comes from a good place but makes for quite scary reading. When you start making rules on what colour or sex people have to be ... well I don't think it leads to good things, even if it does come from a good place.

The academy should focus on supporting and training people in underrepresented groups rather than dictate what groups must be represented.
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Interestingly a couple of years back i sent my first script “7 days in la Suerte “ to Nichols. Got a notice it made the top twenty percent. Got coverage and advice from producers - polished and re entered it flopped. These contest often depends on the luck of the draw on who reads it. Mine was a crime comedy / drama - if i got a horror fan reading wouldn’t get it
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Interestingly a couple of years back i sent my first script “7 days in la Suerte “ to Nichols. Got a notice it made the top twenty percent. Got coverage and advice from producers - polished and re entered it flopped. These contest often depends on the luck of the draw on who reads it. Mine was a crime comedy / drama - if i got a horror fan reading wouldn’t get it


I got to the final - top ten in its genre - in the Page last year. Not even the quarters this year with a polished version. Writing is subjective. And some readers are probably c**** hahaha!
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I got to the final - top ten in its genre - in the Page last year. Not even the quarters this year with a polished version. Writing is subjective. And some readers are probably c**** hahaha!


I had a sort of similar experience but with feedback. Old script I had was a mess but people loved it then. But as a writer - we see things differently with our own stuff. Anyway, went about perfecting it - in my eyes and now it's met with "Meh". I don't care. I feel more confident in it and proud to have my name on it. That's all I can control, the rest is all bullshit.


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Interestingly a couple of years back I sent my first script “7 days in la Suerte “ to Nichols. Got a notice it made the top twenty percent. Got coverage and advice from producers - polished and re entered it flopped. These contest often depends on the luck of the draw on who reads it. Mine was a crime comedy / drama - if i got a horror fan reading wouldn’t get it


Reminds me of the study into wine competitions a while ago. The study was to see if the same judges scored the same wine consistently across multiple years - turns out they don't, at all.

In order for these competitions to judge script quality fairly, they need multiple judges to read each entry, each round to reach a meaningful consensus.
Having 1 person judge your script each round is not a fair evaluation (Do they dislike the genre? Do they take issue with my style? Did they get a bad night sleep the night before? Does my protag share the same name as their bitter Ex?)

It sucks because writers (especially newer ones) will get disheartened if their script doesn't progress the early rounds when, in fact, it could be that it just fell into the wrong judges hands.


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Quoted from Matthew Taylor

It sucks because writers (especially newer ones) will get disheartened if their script doesn't progress the early rounds when, in fact, it could be that it just fell into the wrong judges hands.


Agree. I made the Nicholl quarter finals on 2016 with a horror script. I placed it into smaller horror contests and it never went anywhere. You have to have a good script and a lot of luck when it comes to judges in these contests.

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Agree. I made the Nicholl quarter finals on 2016 with a horror script. I placed it into smaller horror contests and it never went anywhere. You have to have a good script and a lot of luck when it comes to judges in these contests.

James



So true. It's not totally random, thanks the majority of them probably being awful. But if you're in the good pile, it is subjective. There was a Nicholl winner last year that was a 7-year-old script the person entered before - got nowhere - but randomly decided to dust it off and put in again.
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