Had time to work on one this morning. Might get one in. I just need to tweak the dialogue .

Quoted from Dreamscale Visual writing is always the goal.  A good writer can write in a way that a "good reader" can see exactly what he or she wants them to. The problem is that few are good readers and even fewer are good writers. As to the story being king, well, that really comes down to one's opinion.  There are very few stories that are universally good or great.  At least IMO.

Come on Dave...it's been a while since I've seen you on one of these fun trips!!!

Sorry, but just can't agree in any way, shape or form with the above. If you ain't got a story you ain't got a script. You can have as many visual ticks and tricks as you want, but they have to be coupled with an actual story.

If you wade into a script with the impression that the formatting and style is what's going to make it special, you're on a one way ticked to pain town...and really, can't you think of more than a very few good stories?? That's slightly troubling if you mean throughout the cinematic world.

By the way, that's not me saying you can't tell a story through visual means, the entire point of this challenge is such a task. I'm saying you actually need a story, and the story is key and you'll always fail without a good one.

Quoted from eldave1 Had time to work on one this morning. Might get one in. I just need to tweak the dialogue .

Funny.

Quoted from eldave1 I just need to tweak the dialogue .

Say no more.

Quoted from Cameron Sorry, but just can't agree in any way, shape or form with the above. If you ain't got a story you ain't got a script. You can have as many visual ticks and tricks as you want, but they have to be coupled with an actual story. If you wade into a script with the impression that the formatting is what's going to make it special, you're on a one way ticked to pain town...and really, can't you think of more than a very few good stories?? That's slightly troubling if you mean throughout the cinematic world.

Cam, you're taking my comments totally out of context.  Keep in mind my comments were in response to a post of yours, which you completely neglected here.

"Good Visual" writing is exactly that - it's good and it's visual, which is good.  The problem is that unless the reader is a "good" reader, they're not going to get it...or see it.  That was 1 of my points.

The other point is that there are seriously very, very few stories that are universally good or great (very few in terms of relationship to all...or percentage).  Not everyone wil agree that this or that story is so great...or even good.  That should be very easy to understand.

Great writing jumps off the page...right into your mind's eye, and that's the difference here.

Quoted from Dreamscale Cam, you're taking my comments totally out of context.  Keep in mind my comments were in response to a post of yours, which you completely neglected here. "Good Visual" writing is exactly that - it's good and it's visual, which is good.  The problem is that unless the reader is a "good" reader, they're not going to get it...or see it.  That was 1 of my points. The other point is that there are seriously very, very few stories that are universally good or great (very few in terms of relationship to all...or percentage).  Not everyone wil agree that this or that story is so great...or even good.  That should be very easy to understand. Great writing jumps off the page...right into your mind's eye, and that's the difference here.

Alright Dreamscale,

Don't worry, I already figured this was a reply to my comment, however if anyone thinks that they can avoid making the story the focal point of their work then they are not going to get very far...

Anyway, if you genuinely can't think of anything beyond a very few great, or even good, stories we're in trouble here.

In short. It's late over here, I'm in bed, and it's definitely too early in the challenge for one of these daft arguments revolving around a ridiculous statement. To quote a familiar saying in these OWC's, I'm out.

Nighty night x

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Thanks Bud

I noticed the quality of scripts have risen since I've been gone... coincidence I think not

Quoted from Cameron Don't worry, I already figured this was a reply to my comment, however if anyone thinks that they can avoid making the story the focal point of their work then they are not going to get very far... Anyway, if you genuinely can't think of anything beyond a very few great, or even good, stories we're in trouble here. In short. It's late over here, I'm in bed, and it's definitely too early in the challenge for one of these daft arguments revolving around a ridiculous statement. To quote a familiar saying in these OWC's, I'm out. Nighty night x

Again, you continue to not understand a very, VERY simple concept I'm talking about - good stories.  There are very, very few good stories...even less great ones.

I don't know how many movies you watch or how closely you keep tabs on movies at the box office, but I see ALOT!  And I keep very close tabs on all movies, whether or not I watch them.  And I can confidently tell you again, stories are not the strong point of most successful films...because, they've basically all been told...over and over.

Sure, you can change this and change that, but it's rare to see something new, fresh, and unique.  I thought this was common knowledge?  No?

Let's take the vid that was embedded on this thread that many have commented on - Curve.  There is ZERO story there...ZERO!  There's zero characterization.  It's not even a cohesive piece, in terms of a beginning, middle and end.  In fact, there's no ending.

Yet, it seems to work for everyone who commented on it.  You get what I'm saying here, or not?

Hopefully, you dream up some wonderful new story/plot tonight.  I can't wait to read it!

Quoted from irish eyes Thanks Bud I noticed the quality of scripts have risen since I've been gone... coincidence I think not

That's a matter of opinion.  

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OMG I cannot believe you read that thing! haha

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Hawk and Zack are speechless,   so I'll weigh in.

This has been a very good exercise for me even though so far I have nothing to submit... Not yet, anyway.

I wrote out two and then realised they were too big a story (stories) packed into 6 pages. I realised both would come across more as 'silent films' rather than not needing dialogue at all, if that makes sense.

Curve worked for me cause it's basically someone hanging off a cliff. That's all it is, but it's also loaded with emotion. We watch, we put ourselves in that place, we wonder how, what, when, why. Those things are never answered. It's literally someone hanging on by their finger nails. It's raw suspense. We come to see she's doomed. And yet we hope she might just make it. It's not fair she's in the situation she's in - in that regard it could happen to any of us. Same opening scene with Saw. They don't know how they got there. Same with Buried, I think - although they made a feature length of that too.

'Bedfellows' -  brilliantly scary.
https://youtu.be/WQvGmMVBYMw

Lights Out - effective too.

Some people can write a terrific one pager, or even those 'blink and you might miss it' films - what are they called?

I think with this challenge if you've got too many words on the page there might be something too complex in the idea.

Still trying here, but hope is fading fast.