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However, I am tad surprised, actually shocked, to see HEAT having to be a defining feature, rather than what a summer means, as I’m in the northern hemisphere.
I thought I nailed a summer element, something that defines a summer. I actually thought it was strong part.
On no, it’s not hot enough....end of.
I’m really not sure that is the best way to consider these scripts...but we all have differences. Not very open minded.
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I've already seen from some comments that some people are looking for the stories to be about heat or cold. Pia said that does not have to be the case, heat and cold only have to feature in the stories somehow, the stories can be about something more.
Bear that in mind when reviewing and rating.
I'm seeing this a lot as well. The story doesn't have to be about a heatwave (although I'm seeing a lot of those) or the ice age. If the script is set on a hot day in summer, it passes in my opinion. It doesn't have to be a central part of the story.
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I look at it this way: if the theme was 'the beach', the story would have to be at, include, or be about the beach. Being Summer heat, same same. I've only read a couple that bordered on not having anything to do with Summer heat at all.
However, I am tad surprised, actually shocked, to see HEAT having to be a defining feature, rather than what a summer means, as I’m in the northern hemisphere.
I thought I nailed a summer element, something that defines a summer. I actually thought it was strong part.
On no, it’s not hot enough....end of.
I’m really not sure that is the best way to consider these scripts...but we all have differences. Not very open minded.
I don't think anyone is close minded. I'm still waiting for a compelling argument to change my point of view. Haven't seen one yet.
The theme was: Summer Heat if you live in the northern hemisphere. Cold weather if you live in the southern hemisphere.
Theme = something that unifies many script elements such as plot, characters, and dialogue.
i.e, your story theme should related to heat or cold. Not sure how that could be more clear. I can't imagine that the purpose of the challenge was to merely state or reference the temperature in your script. Otherwise - it would have simply been write a 6 page script.
It's akin to have an OWC where the theme is Romance. 6 pages. no dialogue. Then I write: A couple holds hands as they walk by a bank, obviously in love - followed by 5 pages detailing a bank robbery. Hey - I included love right there in the opening. Nailed it,
Where you may think that restriction is unfair to some writers it's also unfair to writers who spent days thinking what the fok am I'm going to come up with that has a weather theme to it??
All that being said, I'm going to consider all scripts, even those that I feel didn't meet the theme (well, there was one where I'm not). But if there are two equally well written scripts, I am going to give the nod to the one that most closely followed the theme. That's just me. Being open minded I am not opposed to anyone else using their own criteria.
Enjoying what I've read so far. Heatwaves and killers seem to be a recurring theme. Having another break but I'll return tomorrow and read some more.
Just a suggestion, don't rush, we have all week. Some of these OWC entries try and do something a bit different that can easily be misunderstood if folks are skimming through.
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Had an idea ready to go. Outlined and half written. Laptop shat itself on Thursday night so couldn't get it in. I'll try give some of these a read though.
I don't think anyone is close minded. I'm still waiting for a compelling argument to change my point of view. Haven't seen one yet.
The theme was: Summer Heat if you live in the northern hemisphere. Cold weather if you live in the southern hemisphere.
Theme = something that unifies many script elements such as plot, characters, and dialogue.
i.e, your story theme should related to heat or cold. Not sure how that could be more clear. I can't imagine that the purpose of the challenge was to merely state or reference the temperature in your script. Otherwise - it would have simply been write a 6 page script.
It's akin to have an OWC where the theme is Romance. 6 pages. no dialogue. Then I write: A couple holds hands as they walk by a bank, obviously in love - followed by 5 pages detailing a bank robbery. Hey - I included love right there in the opening. Nailed it,
Where you may think that restriction is unfair to some writers it's also unfair to writers who spent days thinking what the fok am I'm going to come up with that has a weather theme to it??
All that being said, I'm going to consider all scripts, even those that I feel didn't meet the theme (well, there was one where I'm not). But if there are two equally well written scripts, I am going to give the nod to the one that most closely followed the theme. That's just me. Being open minded I am not opposed to anyone else using their own criteria.
Don't think it's making your own criteria up, Dave. I'm pretty certain Pia said that the theme of weather didn't have to be all encompassing and central, but had to be significant in it's presence. Also, location didn't come into it at any point, regardless of the hemisphere you're in. The last point I think I saw you bring up was that the use of props for dialogue.
This one was interesting, and surprisingly loose imo, as it was brought up early doors but there were allowances made to using props, so long as you didn't take the piss. But discretion seems to go to the voter on what taking the piss is.
The central theme for me was the silence.
Anyway, I do actually agree that some of them aren't exactly appearing in stinking hot conditions, and also others seem to over utilise props.
In short, the only real thing that seemed nailed was no dialogue, the weather being stinking hot or freezing cold, and that's about it.
But again, a lot is going to come down to voter discretion.
I don't think anyone is close minded. I'm still waiting for a compelling argument to change my point of view. Haven't seen one yet.
The theme was: Summer Heat if you live in the northern hemisphere. Cold weather if you live in the southern hemisphere.
Theme = something that unifies many script elements such as plot, characters, and dialogue.
i.e, your story theme should related to heat or cold. Not sure how that could be more clear. I can't imagine that the purpose of the challenge was to merely state or reference the temperature in your script. Otherwise - it would have simply been write a 6 page script.
It's akin to have an OWC where the theme is Romance. 6 pages. no dialogue. Then I write: A couple holds hands as they walk by a bank, obviously in love - followed by 5 pages detailing a bank robbery. Hey - I included love right there in the opening. Nailed it,
Where you may think that restriction is unfair to some writers it's also unfair to writers who spent days thinking what the fok am I'm going to come up with that has a weather theme to it??
All that being said, I'm going to consider all scripts, even those that I feel didn't meet the theme (well, there was one where I'm not). But if there are two equally well written scripts, I am going to give the nod to the one that most closely followed the theme. That's just me. Being open minded I am not opposed to anyone else using their own criteria.
I agree heat was stated, but so was summer. So far it’s been read as a OWC called HEAT, not SUMMER HEAT
So far, anything summer orientated seems forgotten at the expense of heat. Normally we are more tolerant and less definite.
I for one thing thought very hard about what defines a summer. What requires good weather, and what happens. I then forced myself to weave a story into it.
Alas I forgot to throw in a few temperature readings and extra layers of sunshine. My bad.
Every OWC the parameters have been discussed and debated, but I feel that so far this is more back and white than normal.
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Don't think it's making your own criteria up, Dave. I'm pretty certain Pia said that the theme of weather didn't have to be all encompassing and central, but had to be significant in it's presence. Also, location didn't come into it at any point, regardless of the hemisphere you're in. The last point I think I saw you bring up was that the use of props for dialogue.
This one was interesting, and surprisingly loose imo, as it was brought up early doors but there were allowances made to using props, so long as you didn't take the piss. But discretion seems to go to the voter on what taking the piss is.
The central theme for me was the silence.
Anyway, I do actually agree that some of them aren't exactly appearing in stinking hot conditions, and also others seem to over utilise props.
In short, the only real thing that seemed nailed was no dialogue, the weather being stinking hot or freezing cold, and that's about it.
But again, a lot is going to come down to voter discretion.
Cam
What Pia said was:
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The heat or cold should have some effect on the story or characters. It does not have to be about the weather. However, simply writing that the sun beats down on the desert or that heat shimmers off the blacktop is not enough.
I am not viewing these as having to be about the weather. I'm viewing them as whether the weather has a real impact on the story and characters.
I haven't found any yet that I personally thought violated the no-dialogue parameter.
Sorry, might have been someone else, there is a sketchy one on the Richard Curtis ranty script re dialogue parameters.
Okay, so it's some effect, which is pretty light tbh, rather than pivotal. I really don't read this as also bang and centre of the piece, which is the impression I've been getting off some of the comments.
I agree heat was stated, but so was summer. So far it’s been read as a OWC called HEAT, not SUMMER HEAT
So far, anything summer orientated seems forgotten at the expense of heat. Normally we are more tolerant and less definite.
I for one thing thought very hard about what defines a summer. What requires good weather, and what happens. I then forced myself to weave a story into it.
Alas I forgot to throw in a few temperature readings and extra layers of sunshine. My bad.
Every OWC the parameters have been discussed and debated, but I feel that so far this is more back and white than normal.
Summer heat was fine by me. For example, one of scripts I liked dealt with a pregnancy unrelated to the weather. But the setting was on a hot beach, their behavior (skinny dipping, drinking) certainly revolved around the heat. It wasn't cataclysmic heat and none of the consequences had anything to do with heat - but to me, it met the parameters - no issues in that regard.
By way of comparison, one script I read made one mention of weather - "in the warm sunshine" That simply was not enough for me.
I suppose the good news is that - at least for me - all of the ones that I would recommend have no real issue with the parameters. i.e., even though I'm blowing a lot out my arse, at the end of the day it looks like it will have nothing to do with my ratings anyway.
OK, just to jump in here on the heat/cold aspect, even though Dave has been championing that the heat/cold play an important part of the script...or a more important part, I think his last example is a good one, and it's really how I viewed this parameter.
There are certain things that you can do in Summer heat that you can't or won't do in Winter cold. As long as that comes into play, I see no problem.
I actually haven't commented on this aspect at all (I don't think), other than 1 script I actually really enjoyed, in which it was stated that it was 20 degrees C/68 degrees F. This temperature is neither Summer hot or Winter cold, so it seemed odd. I'm not going to downgrade this particular script because based on what went on in the script, it almost seemed to me like the writer made a mistake on the temperature.
It's funny, because the thought going in was that reading no dialogue scripts of a 6 page max would be very quick and easy, yet the majority of these read like they're 12+ pages and can really be a slog. Only a small few read quick and easy.
I have about 9 or 10 more to go. Hopefully, the reads increase, as is usually the case, it's the usual suspects who seem to be doing all the reviewing.
Not In this time; couldn't get any angle and possibly it indeed also is the heat that played a part. It simply stopped raining for weeks now, perhaps more than a month, I cannot even remember, with an average of 35 something C° which feels like 45 in the concrete jungle I live in.
However I think I'm going to contribute with some reads, so in this case I'm In again. Lots of good titles for my taste. My favorites are: Riot Time Knock Off Beach Of Intentions
Hopefully, the reads increase, as is usually the case, it's the usual suspects who seem to be doing all the reviewing.
I've definitely been slackin'. Sorry guys. My little nephews have been keepin' me busy. Hard to read when a two and three year old are constantly yankin' on me. Lol
I'll be reading and posting as soon as I get a chance.