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Thanks!

I mean it's old school in that it's been around a while but it's still a very effective platform that I've personally crowdfunded on before with success so I think I'll be staying for the moment. Kickstarter also has a baked in following, is trusted by users, and is very easy to navigate. I also personally like the all or nothing model.

I had a look at the link you posted and I found it to be a mess, I can't imaging something like that would be very effective. There would also be a lot more legwork involved in getting that in front of people so it's a hard pass from me.


I'm not sure it's clear from the link I sent you. So, try this one instead.

https://cryptobriefing.com/flix-token-to-revolutionize-indie-film/

In ten years time, things are going to be very different. Independent film is going to be huge. Just food for thought.

I do like that you called it a mess. LOL. I suppose, that's what decentralization is all about.

Mucho Lucko.
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Warren, I think I can see why you originally weren't convinced with going with the red. The dripping font oddly seems to show up more with the white. That said, I still think the red looks better.

Michael's name above the movie title in the poster still looks odd imho. I think it's the font and placement. When I first saw it I honestly thought it looked like a book cover with author's name above title and it threw me.
Feel free to disregard if that's just me.

Hope the travel is going well.


Changes made... let me know what you think


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Changes made... let me know what you think


Damn, just realized I put the poster without the credits! But it's got Michael's name removed and the title placement changed.


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Hey Warren,

Good luck with all this. I must say, I think it’s interesting and perplexing all at the same time. I read the story you’re planning to make. While I liked it I am curious how well it translates to film. Caught a glimpse of a couple versions of it online already. (One was 42 minutes long). I don’t know how you make this without a ton of voice over and I can’t help but think that even a seasoned film maker will have trouble keeping the visuals interesting.

Why aren’t you making one of your original scripts instead? You’re obviously limited by shooting this material and you’re not showcasing your own writing skills or even pitching an idea to be made into something bigger.

I’ve never done crowdfunding but I always kick in when I see some local film makers do it. I can’t help but think it’s a well that would run dry rather quickly if you go back to it two or three times. So, I figured I would save that for when and if I try to make an original feature without backing.

I’m sure you’ve thought about all of this and I won’t change your mind. And I will kick in for you whenever I see it live, but it’s still my opinion that it would serve you better to make your own material. If the film is great people will say it’s because you had a great story from one of the greatest writers of our time. And if it looks bad, well they certainly won’t blame the writing.

James.


Thanks!

I've watched every version I can find online, including the 40 minute one (side note: I'm not sure how they get away with putting them online as it goes against the terms of the contract... anyhoo), I do think mine will bring something sightly different to the table. You are correct though there is quiet a bit of VO involved but I hope to keep those moments interesting and think I have for the most part.

I'm doing this particular film for several reasons:

1) I'm a die-hard King fan.
2) The material is pretty easy to make with minimal cast and minimal locations.
3) Stephen King obviously comes with massive name recognition and I am quite involved in almost every King FB page there is (totaling hundreds of thousands of members). In the months leading up the the Kickstater I have been working tirelessly to spread the word about the film. I've enlisted prominent creators in the King community to make some rewards, I've held giveaways to incentivise people who may not have had the bother to sign up for Kickstarter to open accounts, and I am holding giveaways of some pretty amazing King items if the Kickstarter gets funded. I've built the All That You Love FB page from nothing to 1413 Followers in 3 months and the Kickstarter has 238 Followers just for the pre-launch page. I've also run a successful Kickstarter campaign in the past and have earned both Backer Favourite and Superbacker badges so people can have some level of confidence when supporting my campaigns.

I would not have been able to do any of that without the King name. No one would care that some random guy that has never made a film before was making one of a thousand random short films that get made every year. No one would want to part with their hard-earned cash to fund a filmmaker with zero film-making experience. People care about this because people care about King and people care about this because even if the movie bombs I have some great rewards and even better giveaways.

But... lets say the Kickstarter gets funded and I manage to make a great film that people like... now I already have an audience on FB, an audience on Kickstarter and the hypothetical potential to now incentivise people to fund my own projects in the future based on the quality of my film, based on how well I ran the Kickstarter, and based on the quality of the rewards I make.

Sure this whole thing is a gamble, the Kickstarter might not get funded, I might make a terrible film and lose everything I've built, but I'm willing to take the gamble. I know I will give 100% to this and I have been for the last 4 months. If you go on Kickstarter and Indigogo and search Stephen King or Dollar Baby films you will see that, for the most part, zero effort is put into the campaigns and the rewards, my campaign isn't one of those.

I am also showcasing my writing skills to some extent as I have not stayed completely true to the source material. I think it's my additions that are going to set this apart. The core of the story is still very much there, but I added to the beginning and end and fiddled with the middle somewhat.

I've definitely thought about all of this, it's kind of all I've been thinking about and working on for the last 4 months. I'm too far in at this point to back away, and I wouldn't anyway.

I really don't have too much to lose here, I don't have any aspirations of making it big, this will always just be a hobby (the writing for now and hopefully the film making in the future), but if it succeeds then it has potential benefits down the line.

Appreciate the support, will need all I can get


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In ten years time, things are going to be very different. Independent film is going to be huge. Just food for thought.

I do like that you called it a mess. LOL. I suppose, that's what decentralization is all about.

Mucho Lucko.


Ten years time doesn't help me now, so I might reassess when that becomes a reality


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I am also showcasing my writing skills to some extent as I have not stayed completely true to the source material. I think it's my additions that are going to set this apart.


One question here about this. Isn't this what people always complain about? The film didn't stick close to the book? Either way, you know by now (hopefully) I'm a big supporter of new filmmakers and a huge Constant Reader.  


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One question here about this. Isn't this what people always complain about? The film didn't stick close to the book? Either way, you know by now (hopefully) I'm a big supporter of new filmmakers and a huge Constant Reader.  


It's definitely something I have considered and is obviously always an issue. I think I have a little more leeway here as it only a 15 page story with a relatively simple plot.

When people take a novel like Firestarter and complete change the nature of key characters relationships to each other... that's an issue

When people completely mess with the structure of The Stand, gender and race swap for no reason, and completely neuter characters.... that's an issue.

When people suck the horror out of It Chapter 2 but putting way too much comedy into it... that's an issue.

I do think there is a difference between taking beloved source material and beloved characters and completely messing with them and changing a few things up on a 15 page short with a character I don't imagine too many people are overly invested in. I could be wrong but only time will tell. Fingers crossed.

Appreciate all the support I can get!


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Here's the completed Everything's Eventual print I'll be giving away on the Kickstarter. It's a visual representation of the 14 stories in the book.

Eli knocked it out the park as always...

Everything-s-Eventual-Cover-colors-v2-1

Also, in some pretty awesome news, Bridget Aleen Kenney, the founder of the largest King group on Facebook (Stephen King Lover SKL) has come on board as an Associate Producer. That means I get to advertise the campaign to a group with over 150 000 members.

As a side note, this is how I pitched my idea for the print to Eli. He's very good at making sense of my nonsense

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Wow, that's great, Warren!
Your pitch and Eli's interpretation - made me laugh. He's talented for sure.

When does shooting start on this?
Hmm, I suppose I should be asking when does the funding campaign begin?


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Wow, that's great, Warren!
Your pitch and Eli's interpretation - made me laugh. He's talented for sure.

When does shooting start on this?
Hmm, I suppose I should be asking when does the funding campaign begin?


He's great.

Shooting, if the campaign goes well, will be happening 16-18 December.

We are so close to going live. Maybe in the next 2 weeks or so... all going well.


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Congrats, Dude! So happy to see this finally coming together!
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Congrats, Dude! So happy to see this finally coming together!


Thanks, mate! Six months of work on this so hopefully it all pays off.


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