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Shelton
Posted: June 11th, 2009, 5:55pm Report to Moderator
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Off the top of my head, and I could probably come back and change this numerous times over the course of a few days.

Best - Superman II

Worst - Rocky V

TCM: The Next Generation was far worse than TCM 2.  Bill Moseley and that hanger were worth the price of admission alone on that one.


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Quoted from Shelton
Off the top of my head, and I could probably come back and change this numerous times over the course of a few days.

TCM: The Next Generation was far worse than TCM 2.  Bill Moseley and that hanger were worth the price of admission alone on that one.


A few months ago I would have agreed with you Mike. But then some one explained The Next Generation to me, and I think it's brilliant. The movie is a deconstruction of sequels.

"Towards the end Rothman(dude in the suit) shows up. I believe he is a metaphor for a producer or movie excecutive. He is here to tell the Sawyers that their "sequel" is not turning out like he planned. He wanted them to bring people horror, not to be "a silly boy".
Later he says that he has tried this before but it isn't working out. He is trying to recreate the horror of the first massacre but the family has been unable to live up to what they should be. Grandpa gets so fed up that he just gets up and leaves.

In the world of the movie, Rothman has been setting up "sequel" events to the events that took place in 1973. Similar place, similar victims, similar psychopaths, but it isn't living up to his expectations so he is there to end it. He even says that everything is going to change and takes out Vilmer and helps the victim escape.

I think the film's director Kim Henkel may be trying to say that try as they might, the sequels will never be able to match the horror of the original. The expectations are too high. So instead he makes this film as a deconstruction of sequels and a director's frustration with living up to expectations." - IMDB

After reading this, go back and watch The Next Generation. You'll have a different perspective on it.

~Zack~
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films

Some other poor sequels:

Troll 2


No no no....this is the funniest movie ever  


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Quoted from Shelton
Best - Superman II






Quoted from Mike Shelton
Worst - Rocky V





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Best:  ( in no order! )
Aliens,
Halloween II ( I just love how they picked it up from the ending of the original and carried it on in the same night) ,
Terminator 2,
Superman II,
Troll II ( The best worst movie I have ever seen, but I would watch it more than the original )
Ghost Galleon (The second most best worst movie I have ever seen... )

Worst:
Ghost Galleon ( if not in the mood, this thing is just on par with staring at paint dry)
Jason Goes To Hell
Demons 3: The Ogre  (UK title anyways!)
Ghoulies 2
Superman IV
Amityville 5? ( One which has nothing to do with the previous 4 movies )
Pirhanas 2

Actually I probably just need to look at my collection to realize I own a lot of crap films but I still get some sick buzz out of them.


And just to add to what you said Zack, myself I don't mind TCM 4 that much either! I really rate the original and don't think the other 3 got anywhere near it. But I can watch TCM2 and just about tolerate DJ whateverhernameis screaming every single moment and kind of get some enjoyment out of how wacky and bizarre the sequel is to the original. It's a bit of a mess but I think it works quite well. The whole thing is a bit of a nightmare and obviously I think this film majorly influenced Rob Zombie, but less of that.
TCM3 I have only seen twice perhaps, on a dodgy VHS tape where I couldnt see a thing as it was so dark all the time.  Watched it again on TV and it was alright.
TCM4 I thought, would be a laugh, and first time I watched it, I couldnt really handle it. It was just awful. But after reading about it a little, I checked it out again and I enjoyed it! It's not that bad - It does poke fun at itself sometimes, but I think everyone did a decent job. It's not my best film ever and I doubt I will even see it again, but you were right in saying it does deserve another look in.





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Best:
Terminator 2
Aliens
Godfather2

Worst:
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2
Puppet Master Sequels
Porkys 2
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Best- Alien 3- The best of the series. Interesting characters, fresh premise, and one kick ass ending. I really wish they would have ended the series here.

Totally agree (the extended version obviously) - though Godfather II is a very close second.


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Worst

An American Werewolf in Paris


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Best Prequel: Amityville 2:The Possession.

Worst Prequel: The Phantom Menace

Best Sequels: Godfather 2, Evil Dead 2, Pusher 2: With Blood on My Hands, The Dark Knight.

Worst Sequel: What becomes of the Broken Hearted? Not the worst film ever but a disappointing and unnecessary follow up to Once Were Warriors.

Best Remakes: Cape Fear, The Departed and Scarface.

Worst Remake: Psycho. A shot by shot copy of the original plus we already knew the twist. Pointless!


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Worst:

The Pink Panther 2 - 2009 (was the first one better?)

Worst remake?

A lot   but for me the worst of the worst was The Haunting (1999)


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The best remake has to be The Amityville Horror. Mostly because the original was terrible to begin with.

The worst remake. The Fog or April Fools Day. Or Prom Night. Too many to list.

~Zack~
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There was an April Fools Day remake?


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I second 'Matrix Revolutions'. That ending scene was the largest piece of pseudo-intelligentsia I have ever seen.

Here's the deserved MTV/Will Ferrell pisstake.

Andrew


Yeah, Matrix Revolutions was'nt the best, but I also didn't like part 2 either.

Best? I'd say Halloween series were pretty decent untill part 7 H20, after that it was down hill.

Also Childs Play 2 and 3 are great sequals.


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Quoted from Shelton
Off the top of my head, and I could probably come back and change this numerous times over the course of a few days.

Best - Superman II

Worst - Rocky V

TCM: The Next Generation was far worse than TCM 2.  Bill Moseley and that hanger were worth the price of admission alone on that one.


For some reason I liked Rock 5, think it's cos of the street fight scene. No where as good as part 4 for me that was the best.


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Oh, I forgot that worst too!


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