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Baltis.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 8:58pm Report to Moderator
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Evil Dead 2 is one of the greatest films ever made.

You sir, disappoint me. I can forgive you for not liking saw, but Evil Dead 2 is a veritable masterpiece.  >


What part made it a "veritable" masterpiece? The part where Ash goes back to the same Cabin where his entire life was horrifically changed before his very eyes? Or when Kassie DePaiva (Blair cramer on one life to live) enters into the picture and eats an eyeball?

This movie is a parody, much like the 1st only in a more gran way... It only gets worse with Army of Darkness too.  Evil Dead was a masterpiece... It was cos it was smart enough to disguise it's corky three stooge-like humor, within a pretty graphic, shocking and compelling horror flick that only lasted a short run time.  I enjoy Evil Dead ot this day, but the absurdly bad follow ups can remain locked out of my sight for the remainder of my life... Right along the boring Saw films inspired by 70's shocker, Torso.  
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Dude, which one was it even?  Cheese City!



The one where young Danielle Harris made her movie debut.

your prolly thinking Halloween 5, or H6, which both sucked.

H6 Producers cut wasnt bad tho.

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Baltis.
Posted: August 13th, 2009, 11:31pm Report to Moderator
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The one where young Danielle Harris made her movie debut.

your prolly thinking Halloween 5, or H6, which both sucked.

H6 Producers cut wasnt bad tho.



Part 4 was "decent" as far as follow ups go, yes. But it wasn't solid gold material... I do like a lot of the scenes and the characters were pretty memorable aswell. Who can forget "horse face from Renegade" going topless in that absurdly large thong? I mean, c'mon now... Hot is hot and that was hot.  

I think Halloween 5 would've, should've and could've been better had they not rushed the "Stranger" angle in part 6. Now, to me, 6 and 8 are just about the biggest piles of goat shit one can sit through.

If it were me writing for part 5 and 6 I'd have taken them down a much different angle with the "man in black/stranger" I'd have made it his twin brother who he was separated from at birth... It'd have made for a classic showdown. Then again, who am I?

I'd also like to make mention of a very good sequel in "Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3" I thought, at most every turn, this is the definitive TCM to date. Yes, even eclipsing the original in "some" spots.  I think the hook with the "cowboy" being in on it was classic, if not a tad predictable today... I think it really made the movie more than just kill, kill and kill. It added a level of intrigue and mystery to it that most horror movies lack.

TCM3... Awesome follow up.
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slabstaa
Posted: August 14th, 2009, 12:26am Report to Moderator
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I wasn't saying H4 was a classic but its definitely the last good sequel in that series. lol

TCM 3 is great too, also the only good sequel in the entire series.
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Scar Tissue Films
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Quoted from Baltis.


What part made it a "veritable" masterpiece? The part where Ash goes back to the same Cabin where his entire life was horrifically changed before his very eyes? Or when Kassie DePaiva (Blair cramer on one life to live) enters into the picture and eats an eyeball?

This movie is a parody, much like the 1st only in a more gran way... It only gets worse with Army of Darkness too.  Evil Dead was a masterpiece... It was cos it was smart enough to disguise it's corky three stooge-like humor, within a pretty graphic, shocking and compelling horror flick that only lasted a short run time.  I enjoy Evil Dead ot this day, but the absurdly bad follow ups can remain locked out of my sight for the remainder of my life... Right along the boring Saw films inspired by 70's shocker, Torso.  


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Evil Dead was great but Evil Dead 2 was also a cult classic and the best horror comedy that has ever been made by a million miles IMO.

Loved Army of Darkness as well, personally. Not as good as Evil Dead 2 (very few films of this type are), but still great.


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Quoted from slabstaa
I wasn't saying H4 was a classic but its definitely the last good sequel in that series. lol

TCM 3 is great too, also the only good sequel in the entire series.


I tried to force myself to watch Halloween 5 on AMC last night, but just couldn't do it.  It is unwatchable.  Deaf mute kid, stuttering, bubbling cops.  Dr. Loomis just sits at Jamie's bed side, shaking the hell out of her.  SPEAK!!!
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TCM 3 is great. H4 is another good sequel. Question about H5, what was up with the Myers house in that movie!? It was a fucking castle! I did like how they killed Rachel fairly early though. Didn't see that coming at all. I also liked H6 more than most people do. I still say H20 is the best sequel of the series. It's fantastic. H8 sucks ass barf.

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Best: The Empire Strikes Back

Worst: Caddyshack II

Dan Aykroyd is not Bill Murray. Jackie Mason is not Rodney Dangerfield.


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The Best Sequels

Alien 2 (Aliens)
Star Trek 4 (The Voyage Home)
The Empire Strikes Back
The Godfather 2

The Worst

Alien vs Predator 2
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Rocky V
Lost Boys: The Tribe

It's a shame about The Lost Boys re-make, I loved the original I think it could have made very a decent franchise. People seem to like vampire films, I know I do, but "The Tribe" was so badly done it pretty much guarenteed that another one will never be made... unless it's some straight to video production. I tell ya, someone sure blew it on this one, especiallly considering how well "Twilight" is doing, or going to do...


Runner, this is the last gate. Use
your key now. When the Bell sounds
again...use your key. Good luck,
Runner. May you find Sanctuary.
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Mr. Blonde
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Best Sequel: Terminator 2: Judgment Day.
Worst Sequel: Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child, however, it is closely followed by both Crank 2: High Voltage and The Final Destination.
Best Prequel: Cube Zero.
Worst Prequel: Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd.
Best Remake: The Thing (1982) (Don't care what you say about it not being a remake.)
Worst Remake: Probably Godzilla.


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Can't believe I didn't mention this before. Phantasm II. Cheesy as hell but way too much fun for one movie. Way better than the first. Other than that, I think I've settled on Day of the Dead as my favorite sequel ever.


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Quoted from James McClung
Can't believe I didn't mention this before. Phantasm II. Cheesy as hell but way too much fun for one movie. Way better than the first. Other than that, I think I've settled on Day of the Dead as my favorite sequel ever.


Ooh... Very good call on Phantasm II. Another sequel that is oddly good is Hellriaser 6: HellSeeker. I have no clue why, but a Hellraiser marathon was on a couple years ago and my brother and I watched from 4 to 7. 6 was the only good one in that patch.


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Dreamscale
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James, I just watched the remake of Day of the Dead...it was...HORRIBLE!!  I was so pissed. What a complete pile of shit!  In every way, it just sucked.  The charcters were unbelievable horrid and every actor delivered a performance they should be ashamed of.

I was laughing cause with a title like Day..., you'd think that most would play out during teh day...no chance...night...dark, and pitiful.  The setup was OK, and htey had a beautiful back drop of CO to use, which they completely forgot...or maybe they blew the budget early on and only could afford a few actual EXT shots of the area.

Zero stars out of any rating!

BTW, I did enjoy the original.  It doesn't quite hold up now based on really cheesy charcters and actions but Romero's heart was in the right place for sure.
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Quoted from Dreamscale
James, I just watched the remake of Day of the Dead...it was...HORRIBLE!!  I was so pissed. What a complete pile of shit!  In every way, it just sucked.  The charcters were unbelievable horrid and every actor delivered a performance they should be ashamed of.

I was laughing cause with a title like Day..., you'd think that most would play out during teh day...no chance...night...dark, and pitiful.  The setup was OK, and htey had a beautiful back drop of CO to use, which they completely forgot...or maybe they blew the budget early on and only could afford a few actual EXT shots of the area.

Zero stars out of any rating!

BTW, I did enjoy the original.  It doesn't quite hold up now based on really cheesy charcters and actions but Romero's heart was in the right place for sure.


I would have liked to have seen what Romero had planned originally. It would've taken a ginormous budget in those days, but I want to see what the original version of Day of the Dead was supposed to be like.


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Never bothered with the remake. Casting Nick Cannon is shameful enough but the very idea of recasting Rhodes or Dr. Logan is inconceivable. Both characters were cheesy as hell in the original but very fun and dear to me even to this day. The original also had the most honest and least overblown commentary out of all 3 (or 5) films (depending on how you look at the series). Nowadays, it seems Romero only cares about the commentary. The fun of the old movies is completely lost in both Land and Diary (especially Diary).


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I would have liked to have seen what Romero had planned originally. It would've taken a ginormous budget in those days, but I want to see what the original version of Day of the Dead was supposed to be like.


Too true. The original script seems like it could've been amazing. Yet, I'm glad Romero decided to go the unrated root. What's a big budget compared to iconic scenes like Rhodes getting split in two?


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