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Grandma Bear
Posted: October 19th, 2012, 10:45am Report to Moderator
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As some of you might know, I'm writing a sequel to the found footage vampire script. I'm knocking at FADE OUT:s door, but need a little help with something first.

In my vampire script there are only two ways to kill a vampire. Either through decapitation or fire. No stakes through the heart or silver or any of that. What I need help with is coming up with some cool weapons that either decapitate or burn up the vampires. The weapons also need to be portable. I have one of the good guys being an engineer and he's the one that comes up with these weapons.

I've wrecked my brain over this, but the only weapons I have come up with are not cool, so I thought I would turn to you guys!

Any suggestions, no matter how silly are appreciated, because sometimes other ideas can spark from those lesser ideas.  

  


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It's too bad you ruled out the classics. Otherwise, I'd just point you in "From Dusk Till Dawn"'s direction.

Fire:

Fireworks + gasoline.
Steel mill (Terminator 2-style).
Molotov cocktail.
Lighter fluid + water gun + lighter (Sudden Death-style).

Decapitation:

Paper cutter blade.
Saw blade launcher (Ghosts of Mars-style).
Car crash (Famke Janssen in The Faculty-style).

That's all I've got for now. I'm not clever when it comes to homemade weapons.


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How about a bow and arrow that shoots arrows that have blades that open to create a cutting edge wide enough to chop sir fangsters head off?

Something involving laser beams is always cool too. A white hot laser does both, starts fires and cuts off noggins...

More to come as I drink tonight...

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How about something like this -- except it is with razor wire -- and you can loop it over their head, pull it taut, and pop their head off?



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I could see a vampire hunter using such weapons.

Fire Device -- Combustion Sphere
For fire possibly a small metal ball with needles all the way around it sticking out so that when the hunter slings it into the vampire, like a throwing star, the weapon would stick in them. Possibly made the needles have a barbed end. Then the hunter clicks a button on a leather arm band thing that explodes the combustion sphere --- so my weapon of fire would be the combustion sphere detonated by remote so that your hunter could throw the weapon then push the button and burn them to hell.

Decapatation Device -- BoomaFANG
Now for a clever decapatation device, I'm thinking of a "boomafang" similar to a boomerang in that the hunter would throw it. It would be metal and shaped like one of those round (hole in the middle) frisbees. Once it was thrown, it would ring the neck of the vamp like a necklace until the 'fangs' came out all meeting in the middle slicing the head clean from the body.

I dunno if that helps you Pia but I can come up with many more if you no like those Best luck with it. I'm going to have to side with the vamps in your story (any story) though
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I designed a cool, well in my opinion, weapon for a friend who was going to film a short but it fell through. It was a 3 in 1 martial arts weapon. Jo (short staff) sword and nunchaku, diamond dusted wire replacing the chain.

The staff splits about six inches down. The longer part unsheaths a blade and a hilt is folded inside here.

The scabbard splits midway with the razor wire concealed inside and becomes a nunchaku. Hope that all makes sense.

I can made mock up if you need one, but you'd have to give me some time!
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You people are scary!!

Some great ideas coming in here! Love it.

Keep in mind that they can move really really fast so they would be hard to catch if you have to do that first.  I have a crossbow with blades on it that if you shoot it at their neck, the blades swing around and cut the neck like scizzors. (don't know why I can never learn how to spell scizors)  Also had a plasma gun in mind, but thought it seemed too Star Trekish.

Love your ideas! Please keep 'em coming!    


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Wow.  My mom told me to watch out who I speak to online.  I thought I was safe here.

Don't suppose your vampire's not the type who would melt because of a hug, is he?

I like the idea about a crossbow that has the retracting blades on the arrows.  Depending on the budget, that could be a great visual effect.

The pig-catcher thing could be useful, too.


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How about incendiary rounds fired from a shotgun or hungun. You could also shoot 'Macho Gaucho' rounds, two steel balls connected by wire, enough to loose the head of any blood sucker . . .

Heres a link to the Macho Gaucho rounds, yes they exist!

http://www.firequest.com/G12-018.html
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I like all those ideas!!

Budget is supposed to be pretty decent and they want lots of CGI so I'm not going to worry about budget this time. So weapons can be made up too.  


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Wrist mounted rail gun that fires circular blades.
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Just quick before I go to bed.

For burning, you can't beat a homemade flamethrower for getting rid of those nasty vampires.

Decapitation... Well the coolest thing that comes to mind is a samurai sword but I'm guessing your characters ain't the Japanese swordsman type.

I always liked the "disc" weapon which the predator and Mr. Glover used in Predator 2. Great for chopping off a few heads before returning like a boomerang.

If all else fails then you could turn to the trusty axe which Abe used for killing the pesky creatures.

I may have more to come.

Best of luck with it.
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Quoted from Eoin
Wrist mounted rail gun that fires circular blades.


Thief! That was my stolen Ghosts of Mars idea. Lol. =)

It is a cool weapon, though.


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Thief! That was my stolen Ghosts of Mars idea. Lol. =)

It is a cool weapon, though.


Never watched Ghost of Mars - need to go Google that now.

Had a Google and didn't find it. I assume you have watched the film. Any pics of it?

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Ghosts_of_Mars#Valtro_PM-5
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I couldn't find any pictures or any reliable video, but we were basically describing the same, cool weapon. =)


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Thanks everyone! You all inspired me!

I went with the crossbow with a two bladed bolt that cuts like a scissor (I lloked up the spelling). Clean fast decapitation. Also went with a modified two barreled shotgun type thing that works as a flamethrower and a shotgun with large cartridges filled with napalm. Didn't know it was that easy to make.

I swear one day, Homeland security will come and pay me a visit for all the weird stuff I search for...hmmm, maybe that's why I haven't got my new greencard yet?    


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Silly question, but, how does the bladed bolt cut, as the fletches on the shaft impart spin? Or maybe I'm being too pedantic
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How about flaming midget swordsmen shot from a cannon?

Shawn.....><
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Silly question, but, how does the bladed bolt cut, as the fletches on the shaft impart spin? Or maybe I'm being too pedantic


Good question! I have to think about that.     I like the crossbow though and I hear studios like them and bow and arrow type weapons too. I have to figure out a way to solve that issue. Thank you for pointing that out.  


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Combine Harvester with flame gun turrets.
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Go classic with Krull.

Or a mini dynamite dart - target throat.

Or an Indiana Jones Razor wire whip - launch, wrap, pull, pop.
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For fire in a gun, look no further than the tried and true FLARE GUN.
It got me outof a tight spot on the Simply Express last year!

As to decapitation, this one takes the cake...
Look no further than the FLYING GUILLOTINE!




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Quoted from Grandma Bear


Good question! I have to think about that.     I like the crossbow though and I hear studios like them and bow and arrow type weapons too. I have to figure out a way to solve that issue. Thank you for pointing that out.  


You're welcome. Occupational hazard. My solution would be to have the the blades flush fitted and dove tailed into the shaft, with the ability to slide, then deploy on impact.
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Quoted from Electric Dreamer
For fire in a gun, look no further than the tried and true FLARE GUN.
It got me outof a tight spot on the Simply Express last year!


Yeah, and I didn't even get a real flashback in that, ass. No final flashback and no one saw me die. As far as I'm concerned, I survived, too. =)

After my mini rant and back on-topic, how about a double-edged mini scythe for some head-chopping action?


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I know you said you have what you need, but couldn't help throw this at you.
Silane - SiH4is a colorless gas with a repulsive odor at room temperature and atmospheric pressure. It is stable indefinitely in metal containers. Silane in the pure state is spontaneously combustible in air. Silane offers a source for high purity silicon in epitaxial and thin film deposits, and for the formation of high purity silicon oxides.

The part in bold is what I want you to look at.  You could have some metal ball with this gas in it.  As soon as it hits the vamp, it opens and spontaneously combusts!  I work around this crap in my real job and all it has to do is escape into the air and then BAM - Instant fire!!!


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I work around this crap in my real job and all it has to do is escape into the air and then BAM - Instant fire!!!


I was immediately sold when I saw the two key words: instant fire. Kind of reminds me of George Carlin's segment on flamethrowers.

"It means, that at some point, some person said to himself, 'Gee, I sure would like to set those people on fire over there... but I'm way too far away to get the job done. If only I had something that would throw flame on them.'"


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Love Carlin.  Yeah, silane would get it done.  I know a bunch of stories about some idiot not properly handling it, and then the person telling the story says something like, "the next thing you know, the silane caught the whole room on fire!"


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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Eoin, I checked with a mechanical and aerospace engineer, soon to get his PhD and he told me that you can definitely have crossbow bolts that do not spin. I appreciate you bringing it up though, because it did make me have to find out for sure.  



That's cool. He's right about bolts and arrows that don't spin. A friend of mine who shoots a recurve bow competitively says that some archers can hit the target without the fletches on the arrow, which is impressive. I shoot myself, but not in a competitive manner.

The problem I forsee with a blade on the ferrule and a non spin design, is that the blades will act like a wing and cause the bolt to travel in an unpredicatable manner, or curved trajectory. But, if your PhD friend is confident that it can be done, I won't argue!

Might want to check these out, similar to what I had in mind.

http://www.grimreaperbroadheads.com/
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Hey Pia,

I didn't read all the comments so not sure if I am repeating anything that may have been mentioned.

I was thinking a double sided sword that gets used in a fight then gets opened up almost like a pair of scissors.
Then snap, the head rolls off.

Just my idea, as I don't think anything like this has been done B4. Maybe I should patent it.

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Eoin, I checked with a mechanical and aerospace engineer, soon to get his PhD and he told me that you can definitely have crossbow bolts that do not spin. I appreciate you bringing it up though, because it did make me have to find out for sure.  

Question about this Silane stuff. It is a gas and when it comes into contact with air it burns. How long does it burn? And would it set a person on fire or just burn until the gas is gone? Sorry, if I'm being stupid.  The reason I liked napalm is that it sticks to you and the only way to get it off is for it to burn.  


Silane does burn as long as the gas or by-product that contains it is gone.  In a powder form, packed into a steel ball that would come apart, would do some serious damage.  There have been many fatal incidents with this stuff!


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For decapitation, how about a necklace that shrinks to nothing, very quickly of course, when something happens, thereby removing the head. Good be a chemical in the air, remote controlled devise, whatever

Could then be used a loaded gift. Just a thought.


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