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Alan_Stanley_Holman
Posted: September 28th, 2008, 8:30am Report to Moderator
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Does anyone have any predictions for the much anticipated sequel to Zeitgeist?  

The first one was a massive infogasm -- will the second one also be something worth nerding out to?  Hopefully.  Icke's new 4 DVD set "Beyond The Cutting Edge" keeps crowds on the edge of their seats for eight hours, and it presents the same genre of info, so I assume the new Zeitgeist -- at only two hours -- will be able to keep the info coming at a good pace like the first one.  That's my prediction.  I want to know what everyone else thinks.  

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Alan_Stanley_Holman
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I have a list of documentary films that I love which I'm curious to know what other SS intellectuals think about them.  A lot of these are available on DVD, but many of the filmmakers are glad that online copies are available ... because money isn't their primary interest, and that's one of the reasons why these films rock so awesomely.

GOOGLE SPIDER GOATS
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6397669727183502193
A fast-paced snappy movie that covers many important issues surrounding 9/11 in under fifty minutes!

MYSTERIOUS ORIGINS OF MAN -- FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opX5s57MKIk -- PART 1
The rest of the parts of that documentary are also available on that youtube user's page.  Charlton Heston hosts this one!

ZEITGEIST
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Every freshman in College should be shown this movie! it would help to turn humanity into more reasonable, rational individuals, less affected by outdated myths, and corrupt politics!  Definitely the defining documentary of the age!

ESOTERIC AGENDA
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1131942400352901009
Esoteric Agenda is an important documentary.  If you thought Zeitgeist was awesome, this is like Zeitgeist on roids!

Chris Everard's docs, particularly the Secret Space franchise, rock!

SECRET SPACE
One of the best parts of the documentary Secret Space is footage of a UFO harvesting electricity from a thunderstorm.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8158849047090561736

SECRET SPACE 2 -- This movie basically proves the whole reptilian thing.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3785038041682252442& -- PART 1
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-9002443469579937007& -- PART 2
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=615540414603958232& -- PART 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4298614097605441165& -- PART 4

ILLUMINATI -- ALL CONSPIRACY, NO THEORY -- PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9BA9DF24E23AA618
Criticism.
http://siberianow.wordpress.com/category/debunking-illuminati-conspiracy-theorists/

ILLUMINATI -- THE ANTICHRIST CONSPIRACY
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=585B34667B5AA23F

HACKING DEMOCRACY
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4762159260759486531&
HACKING DEMOCRACY shows proof that the American Republican Party paid Diebold (the manufacturer of the voting equipment) to allow them to install a virus into the memory cards. The virus was an executable file that re-arranged the votes so that Bush would win both times. The documentary also shows proof that the people in the government (who benefitted from the rigged elections) do everything they can to suppress this information.

THE ORIGINS OF EVIL by Micheal Tsarion
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8360601521310929801& -- PART 1
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5597983852709238571& -- PART 2
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1823884172706726810& -- PART 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5804447539516185980& -- PART 4
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8967664658521962794& -- PART 5
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1095986015238727417& -- PART 6

FREEDOM ROAD - PART 1 by David Icke
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1466873415592825791
FREEDOM ROAD - PART 2
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1808893265793958345
FREEDOM ROAD - PART 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=497404048306029136

DISCLOSURE PROJECT
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218

THE GLOBAL WARMING SWINDLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXS95q63go0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxBP-UCIZGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o12KHmOHZnw

JORDAN MAXWELL EXPOSES THE ILLUMINATI
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8394844811105390386
Dispite the title which was given to this video by the person who uploaded it to Google Video, Jordan Maxwell only mentions the Illuminati near the end of the video. Regardless, this is an important three hour lecture.

JORDAN MAXWELL LECTURE
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1407252937134516202
This lecture reveals a lot of important things.

ANOTHER JORDAN MAXWELL LECTURE
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8431552640288551100
This lecture contains some interesting information.

Bush is a pawn in a plot by a group who have a very real chance of taking over the world. The motive, means, and opportunity, are well explained in END GAME by Alex Jones:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

END GAME 1.5, PART 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1597638406337856922
A documentary that contains witness testimony about The Bilderberg Group.

STEWART SWERDLOW - HISTORY OF MIND CONTROL
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1243402004150073691&ei=WNGeSIPXD6OU-QHc46Uk

TRUTUBE
http://www.911docs.net/trutube.php
An online TV station with 24/7 streaming broadcasts of documentaries about "9/11 Truth".

9/11 CHRONICLES PART 1, TRUTH RISING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-yscpNIxjI
This documentary should win Oscars; it's very powerful!

In this BBC documentary, an ex-CIA guy says Al Quaida was invented by an American, a fabrication based on a similar but long-gone group, made up as an excuse to go to war.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2081592330319789254

The documentary TERROR STORM shows evidence which proves that 9/11 was a "false flag" event.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230

LOOSE CHANGE
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501

The weaponization of space, and its role in the New World Order agenda.
ROSIE BERTELL LECTURE – PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo6GttEf-ks
ROSIE BERTELL LECTURE – PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcawtDdDKwc
ROSIE BERTELL LECTURE – PART 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjKoaujnGP4
In part 3, she spells out how much barium and lithium they are dumping in the atmosphere.

UNHIDDEN AGENDAS: Off To Camp FEMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTvPljNxYTI

A documentary called AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM was made by Aaron Russo, who has previously won a Grammy, a Tony, and an Emmy, throughout his career. And he has made films that won three Golden Globes, and his films have been nominated for six Academy Awards, also known as Oscars. Russo is a recognized and qualified documentarian, and he died while trying to release this film that reveals, among other things, that NAZIs have been hiding and plotting and are trying to take over the USA.
AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

2012: THE FUTURE OF MANKIND
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822
This three-and-a-half-hour lecture by Michael Tsarion will open your eyes … if you don’t fall asleep because of how long it is

Please post fair reviews of those films in here!  I highly recommend the Chris Everard ones; that guy is an awesome documentarian!
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Murphy
Posted: September 28th, 2008, 3:20pm Report to Moderator
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Well that is an amazing set of Documentaries to be watching, all of them clearly among the most important social commentaries of the 21st century so far.

I am lucky enough to have seen them all, You see my sister works in the local Mental Institution and they are always showing these movies in the "special" wing. Sometimes I go along to watch them as my local cinema's will not show films as cutting edge as these.

I have had to stop going however as I have been creating a fuss. It seems many of the patients in the "special" wing have been taking these films far too seriously and have got it into their heads that I am a lizard, sent from the stars to save them from hell. They have built a shrine to me and everything, one of them even made a statue of me out of mashed potato!!

The hospital have come to realize that as important these works of art are they probably should not be shown to certain patients as they for some reason actually believe them to be real documentaries and not just paranoid junk from the minds of madmen.

Glad you enjoy them though.
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mcornetto
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My prediction is:

-It will titled "The Revolution is Now".
-It will premiere at the 5th Annual Artivist's Film Festival in Los Angeles, California on October 2, 2008.
-It will address "the true source of the instability in our society, while offering the only fundamental, long term solution."
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Sandra Elstree.
Posted: September 28th, 2008, 6:32pm Report to Moderator
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What if the Hokey Pokey, IS what it's all about?

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I don't know about Icke-- I think I've just heard he's a crackpot, but don't discount all UFO info as being crackpot.

There's a gentleman who lives in Big Valley and he was a fighter pilot in the war. A write up was done on him in a local paper. I know he's not a crackpot-- just an old timer with an interesting story to tell.

Mr. Reischman says he's seen flying saucers.  In one encounter, ground radar operators steered them away.  He said, "You would get close to it...and they would say, 'Break off, you can't go near that one.'"

He's not alone in his sightings.  The National Aviation Reporting Center on anomalous phenomena documents 3,500 sightings from military, civilian and commercial pilots, reported since the beginning of powered flight.

Now granted, many of the sightings are probably just that-- unidentified, but not actual saucer craft, but when a pilot sees it up close and personal, you have to wonder.

It's possible too that the saucer craft is "our" technology, but it's been hidden.

My husband knows personally of two friends from Vancouver who purposely went down to check out Area 51 and indeed, they were turned back-- couldn't get near the place.

Sometimes you just get people trying to sell conspiracy theory ideas, but I know too that a lot of strange things do happen in this world; so I don't just automatically discount everything I hear either.

Sandra



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Alan_Stanley_Holman
Posted: September 28th, 2008, 6:51pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Murphy
and not just paranoid junk from the minds of madmen.


Paranoia is a type of fear.  Fear makes it impossible to focus.  It takes much focus to edit together a film.  The films I've linked to are the product of Zenlike clarity.

I think that Mr. Cornetto's predictions are spot-on.  The first Zeitgeist won Best Feature at the Artivist's Film Festival last year, so the sequel gets to premiere there.  Mr. Nobel -- the guy who runs the whole Nobel Prize thing -- was the keynote speaker at last years' Artivists event.  I guess he was trying to make up for the error of giving Gore's film a prize.

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SANDRA SED:  "I don't know about Icke-- I think I've just heard he's a crackpot"  

YO SANDRA:  Whenever mainstream media talks about Icke, they call him a crackpot.  They have to do that because his works expose the corrupt workings of The Trilateral Commission, and the membership of The Trilateral Commission includes the owners of ALL of the mainstream media outlets.  All independent media outlets are fair to him.  He's absolutely brilliant, and his works will be in the mainstream 100 years from now.  His brilliance won't begin to get recognized by the mainstream until after he's dead; that's the sad truth about visionaries historically, as it is also the truth about visionaries today.  He's the only guy whose works I plug more than my own ... and anyone who knows me knows that that means a lot.  He speaks in most of Chris Everard's documentaries.

And regarding flying saucers, please watch Chris Everard's documentary called Secret Space.  And then, immediately after watching that documentary, google "Project Blue Beam."  Please watch Secret Space as a prerequisite before you google "Project Blue Beam".
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Sandra Elstree.
Posted: September 28th, 2008, 7:02pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Alan_Stanley_Holman


Paranoia is a type of fear.  Fear makes it impossible to focus.  It takes much focus to edit together a film.  The films I've linked to are the product of Zenlike clarity.

I think that Mr. Cornetto's predictions are spot-on.  The first Zeitgeist won Best Feature at the Artivist's Film Festival last year, so the sequel gets to premiere there.  Mr. Nobel -- the guy who runs the whole Nobel Prize thing -- was the keynote speaker at last years' Artivists event.  I guess he was trying to make up for the error of giving Gore's film a prize.

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And regarding flying saucers, please watch Chris Everard's documentary called Secret Space.  And then, immediately after watching that documentary, google "Project Blue Beam."  Please watch Secret Space as a prerequisite before you google "Project Blue Beam".


I will certainly look for it. It sounds interesting.

Sandra




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Alan_Stanley_Holman
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Quoted from Alan_Stanley_Holman

Chris Everard's docs, particularly the Secret Space franchise, rock!

SECRET SPACE
One of the best parts of the documentary Secret Space is footage of a UFO harvesting electricity from a thunderstorm.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8158849047090561736

SECRET SPACE 2 -- This movie basically proves the whole reptilian thing.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3785038041682252442& -- PART 1
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-9002443469579937007& -- PART 2
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=615540414603958232& -- PART 3
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4298614097605441165& -- PART 4


Chris Everard's docs are free online.  His web-site has a copyright notice and a statement against piracy; however, I know for a fact that he is glad that these videos were uploaded, and he will never report them.
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My wife was doing a course at school and they went on a field trip to a mosk and the tour guide gave everyone in the class a Quran and a copy of The Loose Change DVD. I watched it and found some of it interesting but I also found a lot of it very unbelievable. I understand that there have been a number of different versions of Loose Change released because people keep debunking the things it says, so the makers have to keep editing it and then re-releasing it. As for The Global Warming Swindle, I watched it awhile back when I was going through a phase of researching the subject and that failed to convince that global warming isn’t man made. The evidence suggesting that global warming is man made is irrefutable from what I've read.

If you want to see some good documentaries, I suggest "The Root of All Evil" featuring Richard Dawkins. Or "Waco: The Rules of Engagement."  
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I read in the Swedish news today about global warming and the media.

They were quoting things from the news, things like "the arctic ice cap is melting. The Arctic will be open water. The last few years warmer winters prove that a global climatic change is happening" and so on and so on.

The interesting thing revealed at the end of the article was that all those quotes were from the news in 1922!!!



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Quoted from Grandma Bear
I read in the Swedish news today about global warming and the media.

They were quoting things from the news, things like "the arctic ice cap is melting. The Arctic will be open water. The last few years warmer winters prove that a global climatic change is happening" and so on and so on.

The interesting thing revealed at the end of the article was that all those quotes were from the news in 1922!!!



If by posting that you're trying to suggest that global warming isn't man made, you should probably dig a little deeper than Swedish newspapers.    
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If by posting that you're trying to suggest that global warming isn't man made, you should probably dig a little deeper than Swedish newspapers.    

I wasn't suggesting anything. I thought it was interesting...

As far as Swedes and their news go, they're not exactly like some fringe country that spew random stuff for ratings sake. They are very science based people/country.

And they DO believe what you believe.


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Takeshi
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Quoted from Shelton
I was more or less talking about how it has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this board.

It's even more aggravating when you factor in those who jump into this type of thread and this type only, and probably haven't thought about writing in quite some time.


I can’t think of any Simply Scripts member who fits that description.  

Plus, this is a thread about documentaries. So my original post has everything to do with this thread.


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I wasn't suggesting anything. I thought it was interesting...



Then why are you getting defensive? All I wrote was, “if by posting that you're trying to suggest that global warming isn't man made, you should probably dig a little deeper than Swedish newspapers.   “If”


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Yes... That's why I don't read scripts on this screenwriting site. I only comment on the political stuff... yep. That's me!!!



Where did I say that you don’t read scripts? You’re misrepresenting what I said.


















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Quoted from Shelton

It's even more aggravating when you factor in those who jump into this type of thread and this type only, and probably haven't thought about writing in quite some time.


Upon reflection, Mike, you're probably right to some degree. While I don't post exclusively on the contentious threads (I do talk about other stuff too) I do engage mainly in chat related stuff and my time would be better spent writing reviews or engaging more in discussions about the craft of writing. Not to mention writing itself. I need to be more focused. I'm sick of discussing religion and politics. Anyway, if I was serious about those topics there're probably more appropriate sites than SS for discussing them. Point taken.
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Quoted from Takeshi
I understand that there have been a number of different versions of Loose Change released because people keep debunking the things it says, so the makers have to keep editing it and then re-releasing it.


That's the best way to research.  Every time they knock out something that's proven wrong, they've gotten so much new information between the releases that their newer release makes a stronger case.  The first release provoked a debate, and the debate revealed a lot of new info, and the "Final Cut" makes a very strong case.


Quoted from Takeshi
As for The Global Warming Swindle, I watched it awhile back when I was going through a phase of researching the subject and that failed to convince that global warming isn’t man made. The evidence suggesting that global warming is man made is irrefutable from what I've read.


A majority of scientists believe that global warming is caused by 187 year sunspot cycles. Limiting carbon emissions is still a good idea because of the health problems it would solve.  Well, there's a difference between "pollution" and "carbon emissions."  But both cause problems for lungs.


Political policies on the topic of "Greenhouse Gases" are widely based on the conclusions of the IPCC report ... which was largely influenced by self-serving money-grubbing pseudoscientists like Mann, and "Mr. I won't release my methods Hansen".  

Of course the robots suggest 'peer reviewed journals.' Nobody will point to a specific journal article which provides a shred of credible evidence, but since there are a lot of articles *about* AGW in peer reviewed journals that is supposed to be evidence of its existence in itself.  You've gotta ask yourself who are the "peers"?  Who controls the "peers"?  

Look at the work of Maurice Cotterell. Gore's movie won a Nobel Prize, so most folks take it as gospel truth that carbon emissions cause global warming. The Nobel institution, like any institution, has its flaws and makes mistakes. Gore's movie is propaganda in support of an agenda. And it goes against the hard science.

The politicians will tell you that C02 levels drive the earth's temperature, whereas what's closer to the truth is that earth's temperatures drive C02 levels.

The scientists leading the CO2 hysteria have spent the majority of their careers promoting said hysteria. If the CO2 contribution is discovered to be of minimal contribution, they lose not only their funding, but any shred of credibility they may have had.


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I hate these fucking threads.


Then ignore it and let the people who know the topic discuss the topic.

I'm glad that he pointed out that the quotes were from 1922.  He made a great point by posting that.  Carbon emissions actually do more to cool the atmosphere than to warm it, so the dogma they're spewing currently was believed to be true in 1922.


Quoted from Shelton
I was more or less talking about how it has absolutely nothing to do with the purpose of this board.


You need to be informed before you can write literature of any merit.  These types of documentaries helped me write many of my scripts.  Threads sharing information sources are the whole point of places where writers gather for discussion.


Quoted from Grandma Bear
I can't believe we are arguing about stuff in a thread that Alan started and it doesn't even involve Alan!!!

That has to be a first!!  


I'm still banned unjustly.  I'd rather have started this thread from my account, and with my IP.  I need my original account back because I need those old PMs that had notes that I need to use for my scripts -- it's like being crippled without access to those notes ... it's been a year or years ... I don't know.  If anyone wants a set of PDFs that delve deeply into these topics, send me an e-mail to newlegend2005@yahoo.ca


Quoted from bert
Is the real topic of this thread about those people that think Bush is some shape-shifting reptile from another dimension?


The topic of this thread is that I would like to see some fair reviews of those films on SS.  One of those documentaries -- SECRET SPACE 2 -- does cover the reptilian topic.  Oh ... FREEDOM ROAD covers it better.  I believe what Icke says about Reptilians.  He makes a solid case.  And if you're going to mock me for my belief, remember what Einstein said about condemnation without investigation.


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If you insist on continuing to post here, do it with the full knowledge that this thread might disappear at any moment.


Truth is not only violated by lies; it is outraged by silence.

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Some other films that aren't reviewed enough ...

THE REFLECTING POOL
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=237517889570270757&
This is not a documentary.  This is the first in a new genre called "Investigative Drama."  The screenplay for this movie is absolutely brilliant, and the acting is superb.  You'd be remiss to miss this one!  Review it!

FABLED ENEMIES
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407&
This movie is by the makers of Loose Change.

WAKE UP CALL
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3149990642797444340&

NEW WORLD RISING
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2020789241047516411&

THE EMPIRE OF “THE CITY” Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4675077383139148549

THE EMPIRE OF “THE CITY” Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4430543376785758889

THE TRUTH AND LIES OF 9/11
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&

Al Gore was able to record a power point lecture and call it a movie, so these folks should have the same equal right.  I believe that these power point lectures are more important than Gore's:

9/11 BLUEPRINT FOR TRUTH by Richard Gage
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8182697765360042032&

Philip Schneider lecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

William Cooper lecture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7Q2nPCdtc

Dr. John E. Mack is a highly credentialed man who lectures openly about the reptilians:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SaVZyQr1Gs -- PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35w-22OuXUs -- PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0x2klSkxL0 -- PART 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhdeTne2HM0 -- PART 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0majbQegK2M -- PART 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WI4nD-UHQ -- PART 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzcgiRE8uxU -- PART 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kETBjuKAUKc -- PART 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdy9EFSPc0I -- PART 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnI1qXxyxZo& -- PART 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnkODkUuztw& -- PART 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCAmJqQ2gg& -- PART 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AydQKzTLRMs& -- PART 13
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Sniper.  That video is completely off topic and inappropriate.  

I've posted links to films that reveal the following FACTS:
FACTS
*One year before 9/11, George W. Bush's brother Marvin Bush left the Board of Directors of the security company SECURACOM/STRATESEC, which was in charge of security for the World Trade Center on 9/11, and SECURACOM was also in charge of security for the Dallas International Airport from which the plane which hit the Pentagon took off. But Marvin Bush's contract with SECURACOM/STRATESEC was still in effect until September 10th, 2001.
*The plane that hit the Pentagon coincidentally hit the one area of the Pentagon that was under renovations.
*On 9/11, NORAD, FEMA, the Air Force, and the CIA, were conducting simulations of similar attacks.
*On 9/11, the Vice President was the Acting Commander-in-Chief. Months prior, the Vice President took from the Air Force the authority to prevent the Air Force from scrambling jets.
*People who accepted insurance, because they were family members of 9/11 victims, had to waive their right to bring any charges against the government.
*A series of explosions -- some of which were below the WTC buildings (to disable the fire sprinkler systems) -- as if charges were being detonated, were heard by many firefighters who testified to the 9/11 Commission, but their testimonies were not included in the published report.
*In the weeks before 9/11, engineers were doing "repair work" on certain parts of the WTC buildings, so those parts of the buildings were closed off, and the security cameras in those parts of the buildings were turned off.
*For the years prior to the attack, the WTC lost millions of dollars per year for their previous lease owner, the Port Authority. Two days before the attack, the Port Authority cut power to the security
system. No security cameras were operational while "engineers" with "All Access" but without IDs, came in-and-out of the WTC buildings, to "fix a computer bandwidth issue". Until November 2002, the Port Authority blocked the release (to The New York Times) of an audiotape of firefighters' transmissions regarding the explosions of bombs in the WTC on 9/11.
*According to seismographic data from the Palisades Seismology Group at Columbia University, the explosions in the South Tower registered as a 2.1 earthquake, and the explosions in the North Tower registered as a 2.3 earthquake.
*Most of the WTC scrap metal was shipped to China before investigators could look at it.
*All four 9/11 crash sites were the cleanest air crash sites in history. Virtually no wreckage!
*No steel frame building has ever collapsed due to a fire. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, three fell that way on 9/11. But the truth is that none have fallen that way ever. All three of the buildings which ALLEGEDLY fell that way were leased by the same man. Overwhelming evidence of a controlled demolition using thermite reactions has been ignored by the 9/11 Commission Report.
*Seven or six weeks prior to 9/11, Larry Silverstein paid around three billion dollars for the WTC lease, then he made around five billion dollars from insurance after 9/11. As soon as he took over, he was obligated to spend a billion dollars to remove asbestos, and construction work began hapenning ... but not to remove asbestos.
*The CIA, the FBI, and the Secret Service, had offices in Building 7. On the 23rd floor of Building 7 was a command center for the entire 9/11 inside job. Google "23rd floor of building 7".
*Osama Bin Laden worked in the CIA loyally, as an agent, for years, using the name Tim Osman.
*On 9/11, Pakistani General Mahmoud Ahmad had breakfast with American Government Officials in Washington. Ahmad is the same man who ordered Omar Sheikh to wire $100000 to Mohammad Atta -- Atta was the lead hijacker. The flight manifests DID NOT contain the names of the alleged hijackers. You cannot hijack a plane you're not in. Six "hijackers" are alive, and no evidence links them ... aside for the front pages of newspapers which don't cite sources.
*1 hour after the twin-towers were hit, Rumsfeld was already prepared to hit 27 targets within Afghanistan. This level of planning requires a year's lead time.
*most Americans are unaware that America started a war in Indonesia in 1947 that killed 40,000 Indonesians. News about big operations can be kept secret or suppressed because people in charge are tested, and to speak out about a government secret is to volunteer for the electric chair. Or for a person to speak out is to put that person's family in danger.
*Former White House Political Director Sara Taylor (assistant to Carl Rove) took an oath of loyalty to the President, and a B1 Bomber Pilot (whose name I don't have) took an oath of loyalty to the President ... an oath which is unconstitutional.
*Hazel o'Leary, the Energy Secretary, admitted that America fed plutonium to pregnant women and children and older people. That secret was held for many years. If they could hold something like that secret, then one has to imagine that they could hold something like a 9/11 conspiracy secret. Contemporary media saturation and loss of privacy does not apply to people within the social circle of the Rockefellers.
*Daniel Ellsberg, a former high-ranking analyst for the State and Defense Departments, who was privy to some of the most top-secret material for years, said: "the fact is that the overwhelming majority of secrets do not leak to the American public. This is true even when the information withheld is well known to an enemy and when it is clearly essential to the functioning of the congressional war power and to any democratic control of foreign policy... Secrets that would be of the greatest importance to many of them can be kept from them reliably for decades by the Executive Branch, even though they are known to thousands of insiders."

Really stop and think about what those facts mean.  You can find video evidence of all of those facts in the films I've posted links to.  Stop and think about what those things mean, and what those things will mean to your future children.  And then think about what you're doing when you post a pwnage video in a thread where someone's trying to educate folks about these documentaries that reveal those facts.
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And if you're going to mock me for my belief, remember what Einstein said about condemnation without investigation.


I was not mocking anyone.  It was a simple statement made without any judgemental pretext.  If you took it as mocking, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate some of the tenents of these hypotheses within a broader context.


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Truth is not only violated by lies; it is outraged by silence.


There are oh so many ways to violate the truth.  One need only nod towards the White House for further evidence of that.

What I (and Mike) meant by "hating" these threads is how they spin off-topic with real or perceived personal attacks and defensive responses.

So you should not take that as a personal attack, either.

But the point is we have to waste our time reading the whole thread -- which we did not even want to read in the first place -- and decide to delete piecemeal or delete the whole thing or whatever.  And then some people get mad about getting deleted.

Or sometimes Don just drives a stake into its black heart -- which is the easiest for everyone all around.


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Yeah, I guess you're right, Alan. Should have posted a train wreck instead.


Actually, you're onto something.  Had you posted a train wreck and blamed it on a country that you wanted to attack, that would be a good example of "false flag."  

A "false flag" operation is when a country pretends to be attacked by another country in order to fabricate justification to attack that other country.

International law makes it illegal to start a war of aggression, so "False Flag" was done on 9/11.

In the three months before 9/11, 44000 U.S. troops, 18000 British troops, two aircraft carriers, massed around Afghanistan ... just waiting for their excuse.

On 9/10, 2001, it was announced that $2.3 TRILLION dollars were missing from the U.S. budget.  Not to mention the fact that ALL of the documents pertaining to the Enron scandal were in Building 7.  And then the Enron scandal vanishes when Building 7 was demolished.
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and, when you returned, you immediately started insulting Don.


It was appropriate to express my frustration that was caused by Don to Don.  Don has also done a lot of things that deserve applause and cheer.  And it is appropriate to express those applause and cheers to him at those times.    

If you cause frustration for someone, it's appropriate for that person to express their frustration to you.  If you cause joy to someone, it's approrpriate for that person to applaud and cheer to you.  

We're all capable of causing frustration to people, and joy to people.  And we'll all be punished for the frustration we cause to others, and we'll all be cheered and applauded for the joy we cause to others.  What's important is to always be receptive of the expressions of frustration that are directed to you, and the expressions of joy that are directed to you.  If you cut off your receptiveness to communication that is due to you, you don't learn the things you need to learn in order to grow.  Everyone grows every moment, regardless of age.
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Or "Waco: The Rules of Engagement."  

This, though, I'll second. Great great documentary.



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Paranoia is a type of fear.  Fear makes it impossible to focus.  It takes much focus to edit together a film.  The films I've linked to are the product of Zenlike clarity.



Fear makes it impossible to focus? So how do you explain the thousands of films produced during the cold war with the fear of nuclear holocaust hanging in the air?

I guess by your selfstyled defintions, there has never been an paranoid book, lyric, film or speech, because all these things require "focus" and that's something you just defined paranoid people can't possibly have.

Alan Holman can't fly.

A paranoid conspiracy theorist can't fly.

Alan Holman is a paranoid conspiracy theorist.

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The cause of these problems is the portal button.  Without it, people would just navigate to the thread they're interested in.  With it, people just navigate to the most recent thread, so you get all these off-topic posts by people who don't even intend to see the films that are the topic of the thread.  Much of what was said in this thread provokes me to speak on those topics, particularly a rudely context'd mention of a work that took many years which is very dear to me.  But those many various topics shouldn't have even been mentioned in a thread about a different topic.  Whatever you want to talk about, start threads about those things, and then wait however long it takes for someone else who wants to talk about it to show up.  If you see a thread that deals with films that you don't intend to see, walk away and post in a thread that deals with things that you're interested in.  Why can't this thread just sit here until someone who might be interested in these topics shows up and says something intelligent?  There's no reason for anyone who isn't interested in these topics to even look at this thread beyond the first message to see what it's about.  Why can't the thread just linger for however long it takes before someone who has something on-topic to say can come here and contribute to the topic?  It's because of the portal button.  On forums that don't have it, people navigate to their topic of interest, so more people and interests can be accommodated for.  No one who has interest in the films that this thread mentions gives a damn that Shelton hates these types of threads, for example.  If someone posted a fair review of one of these movies, thus spawning a healthy debate, would shelton come in there and say he hates those types of threads?  It's the fault of the portal button that everyone is thinking that everything is their business.


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  No one who has interest in the films that this thread mentions gives a damn that Shelton hates these types of threads, for example.  If someone posted a fair review of one of these movies, thus spawning a healthy debate, would shelton come in there and say he hates those types of threads?  It's the fault of the portal button that everyone is thinking that everything is their business.


If you would kindly look at when I commented, you'll notice that I didn't say anything until things started to get a little too heated for my tastes.  I could care less about your interest in documentaries, Icke, and the like.  What I do care about is seeing things go off track.

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Alan,

You've posted a couple of threads asking "Has anyone reviewed this or that". All you had to do to get an answer to those questions was to do a simple search (and being the good and non-instigating member that you are, you of course did precisely that). So, knowing full well that no one had reviewed the "movies" in question, why did you post those threads? Why did you feel it was necessary to clog up the boards?

And here's another logical fallacy:

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc (after this, therefore because of this)...this thread sucks, Alan posted it, therefore Alan sucks.

Wait, that's no fallacy.


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This situation reminds me of Lucky's monologue from WAITING FOR GODOT.  He says:  "Given the existence as uttered forth in the public works of Puncher and Wattmann of a personal God [...] which even though intermittent is better than nothing [...] it is established beyond all doubt [...]  that in view of the labors of Fartov and Belcher left unfinished for reasons unknown [...] it is established what many deny that man [...] in spite of the strides of alimentation and defecation wastes and pines [...] in the light of the labors lost of Steinweg and Peterman it appears [...] more grave [...] in spite of the [,,,] labors abandoned left unfinished [...]"

The point is:  There are so many great works left unfinished by brilliant authors whose works are attempts to answer profound questions, yet we meander.  I pointed to some documentaries that are by brilliant authors whose works attempt to answer profound questions, or provoke debate about profound questions, yet we meander.  In spite of the works left unfinished, the questions left unanswered, we meander.  As Vladamir and Estragon remained on purpose, we shall.  "Gogo" tried to go quite often, but "Didi" "did I".  He did I, by that I mean he did himself.  By that I mean he did what his heart told him to do.  By that I mean he stuck to the purpose for which he had set forth.  The purpose was to wait for he who would move them forward in their goals.  This thread is here to sit and wait for whoever can forward the public discussion on these very important films that are paramount to the profound goals of our species.
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The cause of these problems is the portal button.  Without it, people would just navigate to the thread they're interested in.  With it, people just navigate to the most recent thread, so you get all these off-topic posts by people who don't even intend to see the films that are the topic of the thread.  Much of what was said in this thread provokes me to speak on those topics, particularly a rudely context'd mention of a work that took many years which is very dear to me.  But those many various topics shouldn't have even been mentioned in a thread about a different topic.  Whatever you want to talk about, start threads about those things, and then wait however long it takes for someone else who wants to talk about it to show up.  If you see a thread that deals with films that you don't intend to see, walk away and post in a thread that deals with things that you're interested in.  Why can't this thread just sit here until someone who might be interested in these topics shows up and says something intelligent?  There's no reason for anyone who isn't interested in these topics to even look at this thread beyond the first message to see what it's about.  Why can't the thread just linger for however long it takes before someone who has something on-topic to say can come here and contribute to the topic?  It's because of the portal button.  On forums that don't have it, people navigate to their topic of interest, so more people and interests can be accommodated for.  No one who has interest in the films that this thread mentions gives a damn that Shelton hates these types of threads, for example.  If someone posted a fair review of one of these movies, thus spawning a healthy debate, would shelton come in there and say he hates those types of threads?  It's the fault of the portal button that everyone is thinking that everything is their business.


I shouldn't, but I will.

David Icke used to present the football and sports shows on British TV when I was growing up in the UK. He was on TV all the time and was quite a household name.

Then one day he appeared on a British Talk Show and told everybody watching that he was the son of God and that Britain was about to be destroyed. Although this turned him into the biggest laughing stock in Britain (I am not exaggerating - It was huge at the time) He never gave up and started to write the books and movies that you seem to have become such a fan off. I had always thought of him as a fairly harmless man who had obviously had some kind of mental breakdown. However, when he suggested in his book "And the truth will set you free" that the Holocaust was financed and arranged by the Global Elite then I changed my assessment of him to a probably quite dangerous nutter.

The guy was laughed out of Britain, laughed out of his job, he believes that just about every world leader is a lizard here to control our way of life.

You want to have an intelligent discussion about David Icke? You have really come to the wrong place. There must be message boards where all the Lizard fans can gather and discuss the end of the world. This one is about writing movies.


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I read everything about what happened as thte media--responsible media--reported it 24/7.  And shortly after this, the asshole came out of the woodwork with their conspiracy theories.


The media was immediately ready with an explanation BEFORE IT WAS INVESTIGATED.  And when it was investigated, Philip Zelikow (the head of the investigation) had clear conflicts of interests because of his friendships with the folks who were at the center of the accusations by the "conspiracy theorists".  

9/11 was rigged by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and General Richard Meyers ... but they were only following orders from the secret government, which is run by David Rockefeller.

A LIST OF 115 PROBLEMS WITH THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php

9/11 COMMISSION REPORT OBJECTIVE REVIEW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGzP_Z8ntSQ -- PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9WRAGk2jXo -- PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpSwc0wnbFU -- PART 3


Everyone was traumatized and seeking answers.  The media gave the answers they were told to give.  And during the trauma, those answers were powerful, those answers stuck.  But those answers weren't the truth.  Those answers were in support of an agenda called the Project for a New American Century.  

George W. Bush has referred to 9/11 as a "New Pearl Harbor" ... the exact words as in the strategy that he follows like a script. Page 51 of the PNAC calls for a "New Pearl Harbor".

PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY (SHORT FILM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg_NRC8ozk

I can send you the full PNAC document if you request it from me.  They took it offline when the truthers started quoting it a lot, but I managed to grab a copy of the PDF in time.  If you want it, I'll send it to you.  Basically it says that the US needs to sustain two wars on foreign fronts at a time throughout the entire century in order to remain the world's primary superpower ... this is because of the military-industrial complex's dependency on weapon's sales to BOTH SIDES OF EACH CONFLICT.

You mentioned the media ...

Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC. But when he started questioning the official story of 9/11, his show got canceled. Have you ever heard of a network canceling their highest rated show before?

When you start talking to people about "9/11 Truth", a lot of people will tell you that the official story is true, and they will cite this article from POPULAR MECHANICS, which is a propaganda piece that was researched and written by the cousin of the Homeland Security chief:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

The hole in the Pentagon was 16 feet, but the Popular Mechanics article said it was 75 feet.

Bring the Popular Mechanics article to any engineer, along with a video tape of the collapses of the WTC towers, and the engineer will tell you that the towers would have fell over sideways if the explanation in the article were true. Then, the engineer will call the article "bullshit".

Researchers of "9/11 Truth" have discredited the Popular Mechanics article as "Yellow Journalism", but it's "POPULAR" MECHANICS, so it's usually enough to dissuade people from looking any further into the issues. Here's a good counter-criticism that discredits the POPULAR MECHANICS article:
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/

HUSTLER MAGAZINE ran a more informative article ...
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/318576.shtml

NBC will not report on "9/11 Truth" because NBC is owned by General Electric, a major producer of military equipment.

The media distorts the truth with Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP). Search for, and watch, youtube videos featuring Derren Brown. Google "NLP" and learn that many books and courses are available.

INTERPRETING MEDIA NLP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOHK8qK-Ajw -- PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYZu2Fudp4U -- PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQOqnXQb9o -- PART 3



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Loose Change is a perfect example of the bullshit.  The producers are first time film makers who, prior to 9/11 were looking to make a thriller involving the World Trade Center.  Their movie was returned to the production each time it left it because of all the mistakes they put in it.


They put themselves in a situation that forced them to research the topic.  And the more research they did, the more holes they found in the official story, until making a documentary was the responsible thing to do.



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The films are bullshit.  You're the only one who disagrees.
  

Huge list of trained professionals who doubt the official story of 9/11:
http://patriotsquestion911.com

BUSH ADMIN INSIDER SAYS 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tQzp1aMhs-E

SOLDIER TALKS ABOUT CORRUPTION
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d4b_1209679341

CHARLIE SHEEN SAYS 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=jboCro2Hv2U

NEW YORK COP BO DIETL AGREES WITH “9/11 TRUTHERS”
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=hhOKkVE4v14

Professional Architects & Engineers who doubt the official story of 9/11.
http://www.ae911truth.org

Military leaders who doubt the official story of 9/11:
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com

Physicists who doubt the official story of 9/11:
http://physics911.net

Pilots who doubt the official story of 9/11:
http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org

High-level officials who doubt the official story of 9/11:
http://911proof.com/7.html


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If they had any merit to them, they wouldn't be on youtube and google, where these fuckumentaries aren't checked for accuracy.


TV, Radio, the movie theatres.  In the mainstream, it's all controlled by The Trilateral Commission.  

LIST OF MEMBERS OF THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION
http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm

Look at who's in charge.  You've got all the major media and magazines, and gov'ts.  Then look at the purpose fo the trilateral commission ...


1979 INTERVIEW WITH GEORGE S. FRANKLIN, TRILATERAL COMMISSION
http://www.augustreview.com/is.....lin,_jr._2007012642/
From the article, we can determine:
*Trilateral has three groups, a North American group, a European group, and a Japanese group.
*They want to restrict the rights of the media so that it doesn't interfere with financial or government interests. The want the government to have the right and ability to withhold information at the source. They want all journalists to conform with their standards or be punished by the government. They want it so the public believes that "The only real event is the event that is reported and seen." With the media restricted, they can "innovate and experiment" quickly and without considering the opinions of citizens who disagree with their methods. At the time of the article, they were already in control of Time Magazine, Fortune, Money, and People.
*Mr. Brzezinski -- one of the architects of the Trilateral Commission -- believes that sovereignty is a fiction, and he is an outspoken critic against the U.S. constitution.
*Many influential members of politics -- including Presidents and White House staff -- are "former" members of the Commission.
*The trilateral commission undoubtedly controls the world's oil industry.

The Trilateral Commission is run by the controllers of mainstream information, and they also control the world's oil industry.  Media and oil and politics are in bed.  I can send you a visual map of the media that explains this better -- ask for the document (in an e-mail to me at newlegend2005@yahoo.ca ) and you will recieve it.  Wake up.




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I think it says a lot how you list documentaries involving 9/11, UFO's and the Anti-Christ all together.  It says a lot about you.


What that says to you about me depends on what you know about those topics.  

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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?



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I'm ignoring all the dumb shit
Yo, because nothing is coming from it
I'm not gonna waste no time fuckin' around my gat straight humming
Hummin', Coming at ya
Yeah ya know I had to gatt ya
Time for some action
Just a fraction of friction
I got the clearance
To run the interference
Into your satellite
Shining a battle light
Sen got the gatt and I know that he'll gatt you right
Here's an example
Just a little sample
How I could just kill a man

How do you explain that, Alan?


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Then one day he appeared on a British Talk Show and told everybody watching that he was the son of God and that Britain was about to be destroyed. Although this turned him into the biggest laughing stock in Britain (I am not exaggerating - It was huge at the time) He never gave up


And he's such a huge inspiration because he never gave up.  He became the world's primary researcher of comparative religion.  The facts he uncovered by comparing myths have helped me IMMEASURABLY in writing scripts.

Icke DOES NOT believe that he is any more then son of God than anyone else in the world.  

He uncovers important groundbreaking information.

But it's difficult to find his books in libraries here in Canada because a Canadian human rights lawyer named Richard Warman successfully keeps his books out of many Canadian libraries and bookstores ... as a personal vendetta ... no one has actually made any formal complaints.

Please watch this video of Icke returning to the talk show that he was laughed off of many years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OSmdej56cw
... and really think about what you're doing when you laugh at an idea.
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he believes that just about every world leader is a lizard here to control our way of life.


True or not, the Reptilian story is definitely a modern myth, and myths provide a bridge between dots so conversations can go more places and solve more problems. We know a bridge exists between those two dots, but we're unsure of the nature of the bridge which exists between those two dots, so we put a myth there as a place-holder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6t1z-c2nHY&

For fully functional paradigms, you should regard placeholder myths as the truth until proven otherwise.

If you want more information on that topic, look up materials by: David Icke, Matthew Delooze, Zecharia Sitchin, Jan Van Helsing, Peggy Kane, Michael Mott, Pamela Stonebrooke, Stewart Swerdlow, Arizona Wilder, Credo Mutwa, Courtney Brown, and Micheal Tsarion. Those authors allege – with a lot of proof – that Most goverments are controlled by heartless, cold-blooded, reptilian shape-shifters.

NANCY PELOSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L24y4POdbiQ

HILLARY CLINTON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECKo2AXkGlQ

Fox News Producer Marvin Himelfarb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0BNq65oiM

GEORGE BUSH SR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE&
The video focuses on George Bush's eyes; however, what do you see when you look at his tongue? What do you hear when you focus on his tongue?

Click on over to this site:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/15/cbsnews_investigates/main4264014.shtml?source=search_story
This is a news article. You will find an embedded video on the page; watch it. A thirty second commercial plays before the video of the news report begins. Pause the news report at exactly 01:45, and make sure the video is playing in full screen mode, and then look at congressman Richard Baker's eyes and learn the terrible secret that Credo Mutwa was forced to eat a human hand before a Secret Society would trust him with the secret.

Now look at Baker's eyes in this photo:
http://media.2theadvocate.com/images/rbaker+11508.jpg

And now listen to this music:
http://www.truthmix.tk
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GEORGE BUSH SR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE&
The video focuses on George Bush's eyes; however, what do you see when you look at his tongue? What do you hear when you focus on his tongue?


Wow, that's amazing.  I did a little dabbling with my audio software to get to the height of the subliminals, but damn if it ain't creepy.

Check this out, everybody.


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Yo Mike.  Hey bro, I'm not familiar with the technology you speak of.  What do you mean by "getting to the height of the subliminals", and what do the results of your attempts to do so mean?

And the link you posted was funny but off topic.

Also, you quoted my mention of that video of George Bush Sr.s eyes.  He appears briefly in the new Michael Moore documentary Slacker Uprising, and his eyes are the same way in the few seconds he appears in that documentary.
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Wow, that's amazing.  I did a little dabbling with my audio software to get to the height of the subliminals, but damn if it ain't creepy.


What subliminals?  I listened to this twice and didn't hear any.
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True or not, the Reptilian story is definitely a modern myth, and myths provide a bridge between dots so conversations can go more places and solve more problems. We know a bridge exists between those two dots, but we're unsure of the nature of the bridge which exists between those two dots, so we put a myth there as a place-holder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6t1z-c2nHY&

For fully functional paradigms, you should regard placeholder myths as the truth until proven otherwise.

If you want more information on that topic, look up materials by: David Icke, Matthew Delooze, Zecharia Sitchin, Jan Van Helsing, Peggy Kane, Michael Mott, Pamela Stonebrooke, Stewart Swerdlow, Arizona Wilder, Credo Mutwa, Courtney Brown, and Micheal Tsarion. Those authors allege – with a lot of proof – that Most goverments are controlled by heartless, cold-blooded, reptilian shape-shifters.

NANCY PELOSI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L24y4POdbiQ

HILLARY CLINTON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECKo2AXkGlQ

Fox News Producer Marvin Himelfarb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0BNq65oiM

GEORGE BUSH SR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE&
The video focuses on George Bush's eyes; however, what do you see when you look at his tongue? What do you hear when you focus on his tongue?

Click on over to this site:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/15/cbsnews_investigates/main4264014.shtml?source=search_story
This is a news article. You will find an embedded video on the page; watch it. A thirty second commercial plays before the video of the news report begins. Pause the news report at exactly 01:45, and make sure the video is playing in full screen mode, and then look at congressman Richard Baker's eyes and learn the terrible secret that Credo Mutwa was forced to eat a human hand before a Secret Society would trust him with the secret.

Now look at Baker's eyes in this photo:
http://media.2theadvocate.com/images/rbaker+11508.jpg

And now listen to this music:
http://www.truthmix.tk


Aside from the fact that you are probably not gonna be swayed from your belief by any arguments, lemme put this to ya:

http://nn3008.k12.sd.us/Year/George%20Bush.jpg

http://media.washingtontimes.com/media/img/photos/2008/06/08/20080607-233736-pic-266296161.jpg

http://www.westendcdc.org/pictures/200712070557480.gerald%20and%20hillary%20clinton.jpg

No slit eyes? I guess you can only see their true reptilian eyes in grainy and blurry video feed on youtube, huh?

Alan, you ned to learn a few things about empirical theory, the Socratic method, perhaps adopt just a speck of common sense. Just your notion of how something is true until proven false is an example of how you don't grasp the simplest concepts of logic, which might explain how you got lulled into this nonsense in the first place.




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I guess you can only see their true reptilian eyes in grainy and blurry video feed on youtube, huh?


The Richard Baker video was high quality and it was from a network news site.  The Richard Baker photo also was high quality and not on "youtube".  The Michael Moore film SLACKER UPRISING has those same eyes in Bush Sr, and I was watching it in high resolution.  Plus, the eyes are not always that way.  What Icke refers to as "shapeshifting" in his books is actually clarified in those same books to be a generalized term to describe the appearance of a phenomena that is not a shift in shape at all; it's a shift in what can be perceived.  It's dimension-shifting which gives the appearance of shape-shifting.  There is a whole spectrum of dimensions in any space.  

IMAGINING THE TENTH DIMENTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY

Icke believes that reptilians work from a thing he calls the "lower fourth dimension". That "tenth dimension" video says the fourth dimension is time; however, I believe Icke refers to a different definition of the word dimension in which he's talking about co-existing universes, such as in this video called Dr. Quantum ...

DR. QUANTUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4

For more information and theories regarding the interdimensional visitation hypothesis, please regard the books of Jacques Vallees, and the theoretical physicist Michio Kaku.


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Just your notion of how something is true until proven false is an example of how you don't grasp the simplest concepts of logic, which might explain how you got lulled into this nonsense in the first place.


Something is true until proven false?  No.  The biggest secret is that everything is true.  When you get down to a quantum physics level and realize the connection between cymatics and string theory, and what it means about the personal power that everyone has, it means that absolutely everything is true, but what is perceived is what the most time has been spent in bringing together the pieces of.  That's what they referred to as magic in the past, but what's currently referred to as Law of Vibrational Attraction.  The reptilians have been manifested by the combined beliefs and intentions of many ancient cultures.

Cultures that mention reptilians in their myths are: Sumerians, Egyptians, Akkadians, Phoenicians, Persians, Jews, Ewe, Fon, vhaVenda, Dogans, Zimbabwe, Greece, Romans, Christians, Minoans, Celts, Norse, Ohio Mound, Chippewa, Comanches, Toltecs, Builders, Northern Cree, Sioux, Mayan, Aztec (Quetzalcoatl was a myth created because of an Irish traveler named Cuchulainn and not because of a God, therefore the Reptilian from the Aztec myth was just some human dude ... but was he from a reptilian bloodline?), Solomons, Gilbert Islands, New Britain, Fiji, Tuamotua, New Guinea, Philippines, New Hebrides, Melanesia, Hawaii, Admirality Islands, China, Japan, India, Tibet, Vietnam, Australian aborigines ... and more.

Well, either the Law of Vibrational Attraction manifested them by those combined beliefs, or they are aliens who visited and caused those combined beliefs ... or all of the combined beliefs were caused by people in costumes manipulating the beliefs of less advanced populations to cause the eventual manifestation OR attraction of aliens to us.  When movies pull us into a story, think about what the movie may have been greenlighted to manifest.  Magicians used a Holly Wood Wand.  But that's a tangent.  Reptilians do exist now, regardless of whether you want to believe it or not.  If you're religious, why not call them Demons?  Does not the current President Bush cause the problems that a demon would cause?  It's the job of Icke and folks like myself, and anyone who's been convinced of it, or who's been convinced of anything that's considered religulous to anyone, to remain open to all possibilities.  At any moment, I believe whatever makes the strongest case to me at that moment.  If someone's beliefs haven't changed in a year, what were they doing for a year?  I might not believe this tomorrow, but talking openly about what you believe, when you believe it, should be encouraged!  Know what I mean?  Anyway, I've considered the research out there and I have to say that the research makes a strong case.  An author I didn't mention -- Barbara Marciniak -- calls them "the Lizzies".

Whether you agree, disagree, believe, or disbelieve, the topics I'm discussing, what you should take note of is that I've studied the materials available about the topics I'm discussing so that I can discuss those topics in an informed way.  You don't need to agree, disagree, believe, or disbelieve a topic, in order to study the materials on a topic to a point where you can discuss a topic in an informed way.  Bush, Palin, etc -- do many politicians study the topics they rant about?  Does Bush ever discuss a topic in an informed manner?  

If you want a President who can discuss a topic in an informed manner, regardless of topic.  If you want a President who will study each topic put on his table, join this facebook group:
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22753885682


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I'm still not sure what you guys are talking about with regards to subliminals.

If you're implying that there are subliminal messages in the audio, that's entirely possible.  There's a spectrum of sounds, and only a small percent of that spectrum are sounds that we can hear.  

But as I was talking about multidimensional reptilians, I want to talk about another sort of spectrum.  Visible light -- what people can see -- is 0.005% of what is in the universe.  99.99% of what is around you cannot be seen by your eyes.  Sometimes the frequency of something will lower to a point where you can see it.  Sometimes your eyes/brain -- or soul -- will tune to a higher frequency so that you can see it.  Sometimes you'll meet it in the middle.  What is it?  It could be anything.  Within the 99.99% of what we can't see could be entire civilizations of intelligent beings who cannot see us, and they could be taking up the exact same space as we do, walking through us unknowing of us, as we walk through them unknowing of them.  Afterall, the energy surrounding an atom only combines with other atoms that are surrounded by energy of the same frequency, only seems like solid matter to other atoms of the same vibrational frequency.  So atoms of different frequencies pass through eachother all the time.  Turn the radio dial just a bit and you may just have a world that's populated by bipedal reptiles ... and they may have discovered us before we discovered them.  Whether this is the explanation or not does not contradict the possibility.  What I've described is possible; therefore if someone claims to be a witness of it, that person should be taken seriously.  The authors I've listed earlier cite sources who claim to be witnesses, and some of the authors claim to be witnesses.  If what they claim is within the realm of possibility -- and it is, because all things are possible -- then when they claim that reptoids are in control of gov't, those claims should be taken as serious allegations, and looked into with a proper investigation.
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I think anyone who can't hear the subliminals has obviously not had enough of the special Kool-aid.  Try some more, but not until you put on your special black Nikes, tailor made for time travel.

Seriously, is this some viral marketing campaign for a V remake?


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One thing that i will say about Icke is this:

If you had a friend or colleague who was integral to a famous National station and then appeared to become unhinged, would you:

A) Show concern and try to get him help

Or

B) Wildly edit all his words to make him appear to say things that he in fact did not and then spent large amounts of money and air time in a continuing attempt to discredit him?

I am not suggesting that Icke is correct, but if Hilary Clinton's enormous head isn't the result of some kind of hideous alien cross breeding, then I don't know what is...
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Mike, Is there a second voice?  Or is there just one?  An are they/he repeating the world 'really'?  Or the name 'Raleigh?'


I can only make out one voice, but it sounds threatening and inviting at the same time.  I suggest everyone keep clicking on it until the message sinks in.  It could very well save your life.

The Message


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That message is perhaps the most charismatic thing a person can say.  50% cocky + 50% funny = attractive.  You can't help but listen and enjoy his charisma because of the audacity.  But it also has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.  This thread is about a cross section of documentaries that are too often overlooked, and the topics of those documentaries.  I challenge you to make a post that connects that message to the topic of any documentary that's often overlooked, in particular any documentary that hasn't been reviewed on SS.
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One thing that i will say about Icke is this:

If you had a friend or colleague who was integral to a famous National station and then appeared to become unhinged, would you:

A) Show concern and try to get him help

Or

B) Wildly edit all his words to make him appear to say things that he in fact did not and then spent large amounts of money and air time in a continuing attempt to discredit him?

I am not suggesting that Icke is correct, but if Hilary Clinton's enormous head isn't the result of some kind of hideous alien cross breeding, then I don't know what is...


The answer is A.  He was a celebrity, so of course people didn't rush to get him help; they like to see celebrities crumble; didn't you see the South Park about Britney Spears?  Luckily, he rode it through to see where it would take him, and now his shows sell out auditoriums.

And even though Hillary is out of the running, a plot-twist will happen at the last moment that will make her the next President.  And that's because of her relation to the European Parker-Bowles family.  According to Burke's Peerage, the official Genealogical service of the Aristocracy, all past presidents of the united states have been the candidate who was more closely related to a European Royal family than the other candidates.  If the race is truly between Obama and McCain, then Obama will win ... but it'd be awesome if Tina Fey returned to SNL for the next four years to play VP Palin ... there could be some great Tina Fey moments in store if McCain wins.  
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I challenge you to make a post that connects that message to the topic of any documentary that's often overlooked, in particular any documentary that hasn't been reviewed on SS.


The message was delivered by R. Lee Ermey.

R. Lee Ermey is on The History Channel.

You believe these documentaries should be on The History Channel (or some other widespread outlet).

Thus, linking the documentaries to my message.

You have to read between the lines, Alan.  You're not making the connection, and ultimately, it will be you who pays the price when the government gets you and performs the ol' "Icke Shuffle" on your rectum.

I suggest you invest in some duct tape underwear.





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There's only a link to the topic if R. Lee Ermey was in an overlooked documentary.


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and ultimately, it will be you who pays the price when the government gets you and performs the ol' "Icke Shuffle" on your rectum.

I suggest you invest in some duct tape underwear.


Icke is not known for an "Icke Shuffle".  And he's especially not known for a "shuffle" that would affect anyone's rectum.  And even if he was, he's not the kind of guy who the gov't would copy; he's a voice of dissent.  

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Icke is not known for an "Icke Shuffle".


That's not what I said.  Not at all.


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Several of the documentary films I mentioned were valuable research for my new stageplay script called REPTOIDS.  You can find it at http://www.simplyscripts.tk

Why .tk and not .com you ask?  Well, because I wanted it to be on SimplyScripts but the submission got rejected by the .com for some reason, so I made the .tk  Therefore, it IS on SimplyScripts.  You can also get to my web-site by typing http://www.bananachan.tk  

My web-site is full of scripts that have gotten rejected by http://www.simplyscripts.com   I'm not kidding -- I've tried submitting all of them.  But with regards to the topic of this thread, those documentaries were part of the research that went into a lot of the scripts on my web-site.  If you go to my web-site, you'll learn that I'm a prolific writer, and you'll see that I've gotten a lot of good reviews over the years.  You can read some of those reviews on the site.  Regardless of the fact that people like my stuff, SimplyScripts keeps rejecting my submissions.  And I never get an answer.  Therefore the reptilian conspiracy must be true!  Why else would good stuff that gets good reviews be rejected by a site that could help me find a producer?  Reptilians!  It's seriously the only explanation I've found.

But more on topic ...

Today YAHOO released their list of the five most controversial films of the decade:
http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/feature/mostcontroversialfilmsofthedecade.html

It's completely ignorant of things like ZEITGEIST, LOOSE CHANGE, AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM, END GAME, SECRET SPACE, SECRET SPACE 2, etc.  

ZEITGEIST has stirred up a hell of a lot of controversy because of its section about Astrotheology.  For those who don't know what Astrotheology is, here's the gist:  thousands of years ago in Babylon, a myth was written about Nimrod/Tammuz.  Certain aspects of that myth were passed down by a brotherhood of politicians who formed religions to control people.  Then Jesus showed up, and his life was very much like how the Muslims say it was, but Roman Politicians Lucious Calpurnius Piso and Arrius Calpurnius Piso, etc, were threatened by the strength of his message, so they conspired to write an "official version" of his life, which they called The New Testament.  The official version uses all of the Astrotheology elements that were made as a control mechanism in Babylon, whereas his actual life story was a lot closer to the way his life is described in The Qu'Ran.  (No, I'm not religious, I'm just stating the facts.)  The problem is that there are films that begin to touch upon this shaky slope ... zeitgeist scratches the surface.  And whenever a film touches upon this topic, the film is swept under the rug and ignored ... people look the other way.  In my mind, that reaction is because of CONTROVERSY.  So therefore Yahoo's new list of the five most controversial movies of this decade should include ZEITGEIST.

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My web-site is full of scripts that have gotten rejected by http://www.simplyscripts.com   I'm not kidding -- I've tried submitting all of them.


In the interest of full disclosure, you should point out that they were on here at one time and didn't start getting rejected until after you were banned.


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Mike, have you listened to the really/Raleigh part enough to form an opinion?


I have, and I think you're wrong on both counts.  To me, it sounds like "rally", as in "Rally the troops so we can bomb Saskatoon and get rid of our number one enemy.  He knows too much."


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But since you have your own site now, you don't need to post here anymore.


Not true.  A huge list of reasons is piling up in my head, and I don't want to write a novel in this post, so I'll just say "Not true.  A huge list of reasons is piling up in my head, and I don't want to write a novel in this post, so I'll just say "Not true.  A huge ...
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Alan, don't interrupt the adults when they're talking.

Do you really think it's 'rally?'  I'm gonna have to start listening to it again.


Phil


Damn, now I think its "Ralphie".  Is he reviewing "A Christmas Story"?  WTF?!?!?!



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Shelton,

Stop doing this negative stuff.  Moderators are supposed to be respectable.

Okay folks.  Here's two more important docs that go underrecognized ...

911 In Plane Site
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5386487651203625811

911 Martial Law: Rise of the Police State
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4382151310886411718


Let's see those reviews start rolling in
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Nobody gives a fuck.


That's not true.  A large amount of people are finally waking up.  Don't you dare try to speak for anyone else but yourself.  I've seen photos of injured and dead kids in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I've seen videos of American soldiers in Iraq KILLING innocent people and laughing about it.  You watch your game shows and ignore the truth, and stay in your bubble, while those who catch a glimpse of the truth fight to wake you up, fight FOR YOU, FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, by spreading information until you stop laughing at it.  

American soldiers indiscriminately KILLING Iraq citizens and then laughing and cheering when they die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNmoglrr1LM

H.R. 1955 – PART 1 “Thought Crimes”
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJsovPRTEM
H.R. 1955 – PART 2 “Thought Crimes”
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=N5NJoZRYOJk

Please watch all of the very short videos at the page of youtube user CheckpointUSA:
CHECKPOINT USA
http://nl.youtube.com/user/CheckpointUSA

COPS PUNCH OLD LADY IN THE FACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp1bh3bnOoA


You've gotta start giving a fuck before it's too late and you live in a global fascist state.

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Crap.  The two most important vids in the previous post had been removed from youtube.  (I copied them into the post from a text file)

Okay, well you can see similar footage in GOOGLE SPIDER GOATS, AMERICA: FREEDOM TO FASCISM, and TRUTH RISING.  I've posted those links earlier in this thread.  Go watch those films now.  
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The only conspiracy is why you haven't been banned yet.  That and the demotion of Pluto as a planet.  But right now I think your two day trip is slightly more baffling.  


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The only conspiracy is why you haven't been banned yet.


Actually, it's not.  There are a lot of other conspiracies.  I mentioned some of them earlier in this thread.  You should really read the thread before you post in it.

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Actually, it's not.  There are a lot of other conspiracies.  I mentioned some of them earlier in this thread.  You should really read the thread before you post in it.



I agree, Alan. I should have looked at all of the brilliant posts you've made as well as your astounding arguments.  In fact, I found a video that supports every single one of your conspiracy theories.  

Allow me to share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0


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Yes, and that shows the douchebaggery level of you.


You're the guy who blocked me on facebook when I started telling you that 9/11 was an inside job.  By "inside job", I mean orchestrated or allowed to happen by a criminal element within the USA gov't.  You could have just said that you didn't want to hear it.  No one wants to hear that they've been lied to.  But it happens.  You've gotta man up and deal with it, rather than ignore it.
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In fact, I found a video that supports every single one of your conspiracy theories.  

Allow me to share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0





That kid was killed while a game show was on.  "Oh honey, he's going for the car!"



Start being part of the world.  Man up, and wake up, and stop flinging insults at men who tell you to do so.
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YOU were the one who insisted on talking about your cute little conspiracies that nobody cares about.


There's nothing cute about when a criminal element in a gov't starts a war and kills innocent children.  

P.S.  I have more friends on facebook than you do.
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Point proven.  Avoiding the truth, the reality.  Man up.

My apologies to Don and the mods for my dirty language and excessive trashy posts.  Come on, guys, it doesn't happen often


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That's not true.  A large amount of people are finally waking up.  Don't you dare try to speak for anyone else but yourself.  I've seen photos of injured and dead kids in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I've seen videos of American soldiers in Iraq KILLING innocent people and laughing about it.  You watch your game shows and ignore the truth, and stay in your bubble, while those who catch a glimpse of the truth fight to wake you up, fight FOR YOU, FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, by spreading information until you stop laughing at it.  

American soldiers indiscriminately KILLING Iraq citizens and then laughing and cheering when they die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNmoglrr1LM

H.R. 1955 – PART 1 “Thought Crimes”
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9wJsovPRTEM
H.R. 1955 – PART 2 “Thought Crimes”
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=N5NJoZRYOJk

Please watch all of the very short videos at the page of youtube user CheckpointUSA:
CHECKPOINT USA
http://nl.youtube.com/user/CheckpointUSA

COPS PUNCH OLD LADY IN THE FACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp1bh3bnOoA


You've gotta start giving a fuck before it's too late and you live in a global fascist state.



I gotta agree with him on this one Shelton.  If reptiles are taking over the WHite House, I give a F***.  And I think it's cynical of you to suggest that I don't/shouldn't!
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I can sympathize with what Greg was saying earlier about the Facebook messages because Alan I have about twenty different Facebook messages from you all about conspiracies, David Icke, and links to these documentaries. That or they're messages about your new scheme to back on Simply Scripts.

I'd block them if I only knew how.


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I gotta agree with him on this one Shelton.  If reptiles are taking over the WHite House, I give a F***.  And I think it's cynical of you to suggest that I don't/shouldn't!


I have to admit that I am being swayed by Alan's arguments. I know I was quick to laugh but reading all of his posts and watching these videos has flicked a switch in my head. Jesus, it's the eyes. They are out there. It actually explains everything, This is why my tax rebate was so small this year, those bloody lizards are sucking the life out of everything.

I woke up earlier than my wife this morning and sat staring at her for a moment. Her tongue was flicking in and out of her mouth, then it all made sense. I think I am married to one!! It makes sense, I wondered why we no longer have flies around the house. God I cannot believe it.

I have been reading David Icke non stop to try and figure out what to do, I can't find anything about how to kill these things. I don't know if it is like Vampires where I have to cut her head off, it is confusing. How do you kill lizards?

This thing is huge.
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I gotta agree with him on this one Shelton.  If reptiles are taking over the WHite House, I give a F***.  And I think it's cynical of you to suggest that I don't/shouldn't!


They're not taking over the White House, they're saving you big money on your car insurance!




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I'd block them if I only knew how.


"Remove from Friends" works wonders.


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That car insurance reptile pic you posted is SOOOOOOOO CUUUUUUUTE!!! hehehe.  

I just need to clarify something.  Icke's stance on the reptilians is that certain fraternal ceremonies in the upper echelon of the secret society network are in place to connect members of aristocratic bloodlines with entities who exist in an interspace between the physical and spirit realms, reptilian entities who help these people to be more cold and calculating.  It's an occult sacrament akin to a religious sacrament.  The very rich do a lot of very weird things, and that's one of them.  Whether it's real reptilian entities or just a ceremonial way to get easier access to the r-complex in the brain, the system is set up so that people can't get to the upper echelons of political power without passing through these traditional ceremonies.  And we've gotta ask ourselves if we want leaders who have passed through these ceremonies.  If not, Americans have to vote for a third party candidate like Nader.
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My dear Alan,

I know you've taken a lot of abuse in this thread, but please let me say:

Whatever exists in "other dimensions" and many of us do believe in other dimensions, (read Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions by Edward Abbott and watch Cosmos with Carl Sagan hosting) we shouldn't obsess over what is beyond us. We should only do what we feel is in our power to change. Eg:

I didn't want my kids growing up in the public school system; so, since I had the ability to teach them myself and integrate them into society through other means, such as Cadets, working at the library, and other recreational programs, that's what I did.

None of us have control over the "big world", but we do have control over our small world. No matter what our circumstances may be, we can try and respect ourselves and the world.

May I suggest that you try and do whatever you feel is necessary from your personal perspective and sphere. Don't try and bring on board everyone here at Simply with
your ideas because everyone has different experiences and points of views and you're asking the impossible for some. Instead, just let it be. You know: In the words of Paul Mcartney: Let It Be... Or John Lennon: Imagine: You may say, I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...

The purpose of this post here is not to scoff at you as many are doing. Scoffing is kind of the opposite of "fear mongering" where, for example: they captured anyone who had knowledge and skills in herbology and labeled them as witches.

Personally, I believe that whatever is in the mind of a man/woman exists there for a reason. There are many telepaths and it's not a joke. Remote viewing is something the military has been studying for awhile.

In short Alan, just let it rest. Don't try and convert everyone that lizard people are ruling the world. Who knows? Maybe there's some kind of phenomena going on that causes people to "see" people as such. I don't know. I certainly don't want to be one to put you down in what you sincerely believe. I just want to recommend that you let it rest and not feel the need to "convert" everyone.

My advice is that you concentrate on what matters in your personal sphere. Forget about lizard people. If they were to exist, then most certainly they would have a reason to exist along with weird bugs that eat people from the inside out. (My son showed me that one-- I can't remember the name of the things-- really gross-- something like out of Alien, but these things ARE REAL!!!! EW!.)

But again... just try and focus on your sphere. The world is a big place and with many points of view. Allow them all to exist and it might help you to find common ground with those that don't believe in lizard people.

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Alan,

By now you may have realized that no one is taking you seriously, here.  And posting more youtube videos isn't going to win you any friends. You're just a laughingstock who thinks that, by posting nonsense from an L. Ron Jubbard wannabe, you're going to get Banana Chan back here.  It's not gonna happen.

Just stop, okay?


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You're just a laughingstock who thinks that, by posting nonsense from an L. Ron Jubbard wannabe, you're going to get Banana Chan back here.


If I cared that people would laugh at me because of the stuff I choose to express, I wouldn't have used my full name as my username.  I'm going to express what I want to express.  This is the only me there is.  Love me or hate me, I'm me and I'm not leaving SimplyScripts until I want to leave.  This is my life, and I don't want to waste it by avoiding places where I want to spend time at times when I want to spend my time at those places.  Many years from now, I'm going to die with no regrets.  I won't regret not saying what I believed when i believed it.  I won't regret not trying to get my scripts on SimplyScripts when I wanted them on.  If Don doesn't want to post my scripts, that's how he chooses to live his life.  I choose to live a life wherein my scripts are on this site.  Don's choice to live his life without my scripts on this site is equally important as my choice to live my life with my scripts on this site.  He's free to be negative and attract negativity to him, just as I'm free to be positive and attract positivity to me.  

And you shouldn't assume things about people; it's rude.  You've assumed that I think that David Icke is an L. Ron Hubbard wannabe.  Where did you get that preposterous hypothesis?  Was it steve?  ...steeeeeve...  

David Icke always says that he wishes he wasn't the guy who stumbled upon the reptilian story.  He always hates breaching that topic because of the ridicule that subjects him to, but he breaches the topic anyway because that's where the information has lead him over his thirty years of research and forty five countries of travel.  Paradigms can shift, and if more research negates the reptilian story, the discoveries he'd make after that negation could not be made unless he crosses the bridge of the reptilian story.  His honesty and sincerity is something that L Ron Hubbard never had.  And if Icke stumbled upon information that suggests that the preposterous story that L Ron Hubbard tries to sell is true, Icke would probably quit because that Scientology crap is far too weird.  The stuff Icke says isn't weird at all.  Of course it's weird in the soundbytes and in the way I'm describing it.  But when you see how he puts it in a historical context and how it makes other things fit together, and how it clarifies certain elephants in certain rooms, it's not weird at all.  I don't know what L Ron Hubbard was smoking, but Icke's material is based on solid research.
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If Don doesn't want to post my scripts, that's how he chooses to live his life.  


Oh my goodness, is this a sign of character development?!


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He's free to be negative and attract negativity to him, just as I'm free to be positive and attract positivity to me.  


Ah, spoke too soon.



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And you shouldn't assume things about people; it's rude.  You've assumed that I think that David Icke is an L. Ron Hubbard wannabe.  Where did you get that preposterous hypothesis?  Was it steve?  ...steeeeeve...


Is this someone actually using my real name or is this just some other Steve?

It seems I am not aloud to participate in this thread so please do not bring me up in it if that is what you did.

Soon I will post my documentary film on how we were all born out of dinosaur shit. We are pieces of shit. It has some hard hitting evidence with interviews and all. No aliens or conspiracies... just a lot of shit.


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It's a quote from Hiphopopotamus vs. Rhymenoceros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FArZxLj6DLk
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I would like to make a suggestion/request, regarding this thread.  Hopefully, everyone will cooperate.

I ask that, this Saturday, no one post on this thread unless they want to discuss all the videos that Alan posted.  Or Icke's books.  I'd like to see if people are actually interested in the original topic at all.

So, for everyone only interested in bashing Alan, please hold off for a day.


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You mean you weren't discussing the original topic? I thought it was "Look at me, I'm back and my name is ASH"

Hmm guess I best pay better attention to these looooong threads.

If I watch all those videos will I learn anything or just be mildly amused?



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So, for everyone only interested in bashing Alan, please hold off for a day.


Anyone who has any interest in bashing any other user shouldn't be allowed on the site.  If George's SIMPLY THE GODFATHER came true and I were running the place, a bash of a user that's beyond good natured teasing would result in a suspension for a year.

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Alan, I think you and I might have been the only ones that read George's GODFATHER. I remember it clearly. I remember your parts too. In that script though... Phil and I were married!!  


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Anyone who has any interest in bashing any other user shouldn't be allowed on the site.  If George's SIMPLY THE GODFATHER came true and I were running the place, a bash of a user that's beyond good natured teasing would result in a suspension for a year.



Like you when you bashed Don. Then you opened your own simplyscripts for only the great Alan's work.

You shouldn't be here, period.

Don gives you opportunities to be a member and you piss on them with your "I am the greatest and can never be wrong attitude" and this thread only proves it right.

This site is not for preaching and that is all this "shit" is. At least my documentary is meant to be shit. It's just a bunch of different animals and humans eating and playing in shit.

It will be awesome.


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Alan, I think you and I might have been the only ones that read George's GODFATHER. I remember it clearly. I remember your parts too. In that script though... Phil and I were married!!  


That script was so good I forced my friend Ed to read it

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Like you when you bashed Don. Then you opened your own simplyscripts for only the great Alan's work.


Or the time I learned to tie my shoes ... in grade three.  Or the time when I was a little kid and I got stuck in a pile of mud for a few hours ... until I took my feet out of my rubber boots and walked away.  Or the time I set up a stage in my front yard and used a skipping rope as a microphone.  

*sigh*

Memories.



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and you piss on them with your "I am the greatest and can never be wrong attitude"


You know who else is the greatest?  You.  Let yourself feel like you're the greatest.  It's a good way to feel.  Everyone should always feel like they're the greatest.  I recommend it.  As for never being wrong ... well that's not true at all ... if I were never wrong, I wouldn't need to draft and edit my scripts so often.


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my documentary is meant to be shit. It's just a bunch of different animals and humans eating and playing in shit.

It will be awesome.


Yes it will be.  I totally love how you describe it, and I want to see it.  I hope people review it.  I hope it doesn't go underrecognized like all the great stuff I've mentioned in this thread.  

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I've seen photos of injured and dead kids in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I've seen videos of American soldiers in Iraq KILLING innocent people and laughing about it.




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Start being part of the world.  Man up, and wake up, and stop flinging insults at men who tell you to do so.


Do you become part of the world by looking at videos and photos, Alan?  Or do you actually leave your parents' basement and physically go out in the world?  I've seen the dead up close and I've tended to the injured.

Photos and videos don't mean shit.


And, just to repeat myself:  I ask that people lay of this thread on Saturday--let's make it the whole weekend--unless they're talking about the documentaries listed here.  Let's get back to writing and reviewing scripts.


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Let's get back to writing and reviewing scripts.


No thread has any causal relationship to weather or not people are working on their scripts.  They either are or they aren't.  

The materials I'm talking about have been a large motivator in writing/editing my scripts.

In episode 16 of BANANA CHAN, Planet X causes a global heat wave in 2009.  I didn't pull that idea out of my ass.  I got that wisdom from a variety of sources, and I wanted Banana Chan to be produced in 2008 so that the episode could give people who are "in the know" encouragement to speak to the media so that people can make the proper preparations.  

Here's a good recent story on the topic from a media source:

CANADIAN ABORIGINALS SUGGEST EXTRATERRESTRIAL MASS-DECEPTION OVER GLOBAL WARMING
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/3806/2/

In that article, the "Archons" the reporter mentions are the reptilians.

Whenever you mock the stuff I say about reptilians, you're mocking the wisdom of not only North American aboriginal cultures, but also aboriginal cultures all around the world, including many African tribes, and the Japanese Ainu.  When you mock what I say about reptilians, you're displaying worse Foreign Policy skills than Palin ... and this isn't an endorsement of Palin ... her Foreign Policy skills suck @$$.
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So Banana Chan is predicting a global Heatwave next year?  What are his predictions for the stock market?  And does he have any insight as to whether the Phillies are going to win the World Series this year?  I really want a parade!  And is Cole Hamels a reptilian?
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In episode 16 of BANANA CHAN, Planet X causes a global heat wave in 2009.  I didn't pull that idea out of my ass.


And since you bought up Banana Chan and ass, I thought I would reveal that my documentary that is a masterpiece of shit is called Banana Chan. True story.

When in 2009 the heatwave doesn't hit, you have to get a life.

Alan Holman, Chief Frymaker at your local fast food restaurant. Coming 2010.


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Oh and how hot is this heatwave going to be?  I'm a fat guy and once the temperature breaks 70, sweating season begins, so any heads up on that would be great!.  
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DOGGLEBE SED:  "Photos and videos don't mean s***."

ME SEZ:  A photo of a dead or dying child in a war zone means that the pictured child was dead or dying in a war zone.  In the documentary GOOGLE SPIDER GOATS, the footage of American soldiers killing innocent people and laughing about it means that American soldiers killed innocent people and laughed about it.  So ask yourself what it means TO YOU that children are dying in war zones.  Ask yourself what it means to you that your country's soldiers are killing people and laughing about it.  And if you think that photos and videos "don't mean s***", then that means that you don't take your own work seriously.  And to me that means that I don't want to read/watch any of your work.

SEAMUS19382 SED:  What are his predictions for the stock market?

ME SEZ:  A year ago, the movie ZEITGEIST predicted the current state of the stock market.  And it also says what will be imposed upon us as the solution to the manufactured problem.  Watch the movie ZEITGEIST, and then watch the sequel which comes out later today, to http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

And you're asking about what I said regarding a Heat Wave.  If you look at what I said, can you determine that I was specifically predicting it for 2009?  I cited an episode of Banana Chan, but what are the circumstances of the event in the plot of that episode?  I'm not going to fetch all the answers for you.  But I'll show you where you can find some of the pieces of the puzzle, such as:  if AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH can be considered a documentary, then this can be considered one as well ...
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3107865392384270548
That has some of the pieces of the puzzle.  

You'll find more pieces of the puzzle in these vids:

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword26b.htm
This site contains portions of actual newspaper and magazine articles about Planet X.

http://xfacts.com/x2.htm

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gD2yjCVCevAgLFa_AXH9m51MrqCg
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2101
http://www.librarising.com/space/darkstar.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96ZMPXuv1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxfs1iEg144
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=69868
This forum contains a lot of information about Planet X / Nibiru / Eris.

Some more interesting (and mind-bending) stuff about Nibiru and the Annunaki can be found at ...
http://www.exopolitics.org

For more information about Nibiru and the Annunaki, read THE TWELFTH PLANET by Zecharia Sitchin.
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Bart turned out to be correct in that episode.

Watch this short youtube video of what happens when Homer Simpson votes for Barack Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuQF3pUEdYs

That clip is from an upcoming episode of The Simpsons that will air on November 2nd.  The people who wrote that episode saw the HBO documentary HACKING DEMOCRACY.  I have included a link to where you can watch that documentary online earlier in this thread.

Also, bart has tinfoil in his hand in that picture you posted.  

This can be considered a documentary ...

THE SUBVERSIVE LECTURE OF THE TINFOIL HAT LADY
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-817648178105626736&

I also joined The Tinfoil Hat Lady in somewhat of a sequel to her "lecture" ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99eZJWgIClY
At five minutes and eleven seconds into this video -- that's 05:11 for all you timer-junkies out there -- I show up and join the team. I was there for quite a while, handing out DVDs, but you really only catch a glimpse of me at 05:11.

Here's that link again for all you chemtrailed, fluoride drinkers ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99eZJWgIClY

The point of the video is that American Black Ops uses as a tool a type of military strategy called "False Flag". That's where they secretly attack, or allow an attack to happen on, their own soil, so that they can manipulate the public to support military movements whose only purpose is to re-align the balance of power in the world to the ends of their own military dominance. Independent researchers like David Ray Griffin, Alex Jones, and David Icke, and others, have found that there is sufficient evidence to prove that 9/11 was a "False Flag" Black Op. The Military-Industrial Complex orchestrated or allowed to happen a terrible event that cost many lives. The military coldly calls the innocent victims "collateral damage", because victimizing innocents was the only thing they could think of in order to excuse making military moves to re-align the balance of power in the world so that their position in the global power structure is strengthened. If the United States were run by a gov't with any moral authority, the balance of power wouldn't matter as much to them as human lives ... they would have sacrificed their position within the global power structure ... but the leaders are arrogant. The world would have thought better of them. So we were spreading DVDs that highlight the facts. A knowledgeable public will make it more difficult for American Black Ops to carry out "False Flag" terror attacks on innocent people. I had already seen most of the movies that Beatta (The Tinfoilhat Lady) was there to hand out, so I was proud to join her team and give people free DVDs. Although I only show up for a few seconds in this official documentation of the event, I was there for longer than an hour, handing out DVDs and telling people THE TRUTH.

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David Icke actually uses that exact "sharp edges" picture as a slide in one of his lecture videos.  I think it was this one:

BIG BROTHER - THE BIG PICTURE
http://www.edgemediatv.com/article001_icke.html
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Yo!

I just saw "ZEITGEIST: ADDENDUM"!

A lot of people don't like the original "ZEITGEIST" becuase it shows a lot of problems without offering solutions.  Well the new sequel "ZEITGEIST: ADDENDUM" offers realistic solutions to ALL OF THE PROBLEMS ADDRESSED IN BOTH MOVIES!

Please watch both of the movies ...

ZEITGEIST
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197&

ZEITGEIST: ADDENDUM
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912&

I hope you'll agree with the solutions mentioned in "ZEITGEIST: ADDENDUM."  And I hope you'll do your part in being part of those solutions in your own life.

P.S.  I have a set of supplementary PDF files that explain these topics in better depth.  The PDF files include books by various researchers.  If you want the set of PDF files, just give me your e-mail address in a private note.
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