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Posted: December 8th, 2008, 8:16am Report to Moderator
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I saw this action/thriller flick about a month ago and just rewatched it this weekend. Goddamn, what a surprisingly good movie this is. When I first saw that Liam Neeson was the "star" of this movie I wasn't overly eager to see it. I'm not a huge fan of him...but that could very well change after watching this movie. Liam is BAD ASS.

!!!SPOILERS!!!

The basic plot is fairly straight forward, Bryan Mills (Neeson) is a retired CIA operator who quit his job in order to be close to his estranged daughter Kim (Maggie Grace) who lives with Mills' ex-wife Lenore (Famke Janssen) and her new husband Stuart (Xander Berkeley). Stuart is loaded by the way and on Kim's 17th birthday, when Mills gets her a karaoke machine, he buys her a fucking horse.

Anyway, Kim goes off to Paris with her girlfriend (Mills isn't crazy about this but allows her to go after making her promise to call when they land and also call everyday). When they get to Paris, a young charming French guy shares a cab with them to their apartment (which is huge). We quickly learn that he's not as charming as we were lead to believe. When Kim doesn't call after they land, Mills calls her. While talking to her dad, men break into the apartment and attacks her girlfriend. Mills makes Kim run to the next room and hide under the bed. Then he tells her - and this is a powerful scene - that she'll be kidnapped in a couple of seconds and that he wants her to leave the phone on and scream out as much information about the attackers when they come to take her. Mills is forced to listen when her daughter is brutally taken. One of the kidnappers picks up her phone:


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Mills: I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Long pause.

Kidnapper: Good luck.


Dumb move, Mister Kidnapper!

After that Mills goes to Paris and, with the help of some of his former colleagues, tears Paris apart in his search for Kim. And like I said, he's bad ass - the way he extracts information would even make Jack Bauer queasy. I know the plot sounds a lot like a cheesy Steven Seagal flick, but it ain't. It's about an international trafficking-network, a very sobering and relevant issue (one of the scenes actually shows a very disgusting auction of young women - really really sick).

All in all, this movies isn't curing cancer in any way, but it's 94 minutes of damn fine entertainment that I recommend.



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This sounds awesome and the trailer is really good. Is it in theaters?

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Looks like it's going to be released here on January 30th.  Not sure if that's theater or dvd.


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It was released in most of Europe in the beginning of 2008. According to Fox, who's distributing the movie in the US, it'll be released in theaters on 01 30 09.

There's a better quality trailer here: http://www.takenmovie.com/


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I thought this film was...okay. But from the trailer I had hoped for something edgy, and what it really is, is a very by the numbers payback movie ridden with action movie clichés and some really shameful cross-media plugging via a cameo I won't go into.

The trailer shows the incredibly intense scene when she's taken, but if you think the rest of the film will be in the same uncompromising vein I think you're gonna be disappointed. Sometimes it wants to be The Transporter, sometimes 24, and while LIam Neeson and the girl from Lost are good, I thought the movie ended being kind of generic and uninspired.

Especially the crap VIP protection duty in the beginning where Liam averts an attack on a pop-diva from a crazed fan...doesn't have anything to do with the story...it's just an action scene thrown in for good measure...and it utterly fails to engage.

It feels like there was a good script in there at one point but it felt butchered from the studio's hand.

And anyone who listens to Mark Kermode's reviews every friday knows what the shout at the screen at the end:

"WHO'S DRIVING THE BOAT!?"

Check here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/entertainment/a2z/rams/taken.ram


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Quoted from Death Monkey

And anyone who listens to Mark Kermode's reviews every friday knows what the shout at the screen at the end:

"WHO'S DRIVING THE BOAT!?"


LOL, I was going to post that myself but never thought anyone would get the reference. Nice to know someone else listens to the Good Doctor. My ritual every Saturday morning is listening to the show's podcast. Just about to listen to this weeks now actually, can't wait to hear what he thinks of Australia and Nicole "Kindling".

Anyway, I was surprised when I first read Sniper's review, I watched this a while ago and never liked it at all. Like Mark Kermode I found it hard to swallow, the idea that seemingly everybody in Europe is so corrupt and evil, the police are so inept that it takes an American to fly over there and save his daughter. The guy just runs round Paris for 90mins killing everybody he meets.

I agree with Sniper about the actual kidnapping scene, it was pretty well done and full of tension. But after that it just fell apart for me. I like Liam Neeson, I like Luc Besson and felt disappointed at the end of this film.

I am also confused as to why a French film, written by a Frenchman, directed by a Frenchman, would try to paint Paris in such a bad light and be almost a "USA saves the world" action movie. I would understand it more if there were any trace of this being a reflection on the world in general type of thing, but there is none. I would expect this type of movie from a big Hollywood studio, but Luc Besson? There was just no intelligence in this film at all. I honestly did not get it.

I wonder why it has taken so long to be released in the US?

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LOL, I was going to post that myself but never thought anyone would get the reference. Nice to know someone else listens to the Good Doctor. My ritual every Saturday morning is listening to the show's podcast. Just about to listen to this weeks now actually, can't wait to hear what he thinks of Australia and Nicole "Kindling".

Anyway, I was surprised when I first read Sniper's review, I watched this a while ago and never liked it at all. Like Mark Kermode I found it hard to swallow, the idea that seemingly everybody in Europe is so corrupt and evil, the police are so inept that it takes an American to fly over there and save his daughter. The guy just runs round Paris for 90mins killing everybody he meets.

I agree with Sniper about the actual kidnapping scene, it was pretty well done and full of tension. But after that it just fell apart for me. I like Liam Neeson, I like Luc Besson and felt disappointed at the end of this film.

I am also confused as to why a French film, written by a Frenchman, directed by a Frenchman, would try to paint Paris in such a bad light and be almost a "USA saves the world" action movie. I would understand it more if there were any trace of this being a reflection on the world in general type of thing, but there is none. I would expect this type of movie from a big Hollywood studio, but Luc Besson? There was just no intelligence in this film at all. I honestly did not get it.

I wonder why it has taken so long to be released in the US?



Yeah, I follow Dr. Kermode regularly, although he has liked some very peculiar films lately (Mama Mia, High School Musical 3 and now Twillight). But I watch it as much for the report between Simon and Mark as anything else. But he's getting kinda lazy with some of his reviews I think - Australia was good because he admired that Baz Luhrman put every kind of cliché about Australia into the film and at least it's better than a Michael bay film? That's not a reason! And Twillight, all I got from his review was that it was a superficial melodrama about annoying teenagers with uninspired dialogue and drippy charcters..."but it does what it does well"....well what is it it actually does then??

Still I'll forgive him, he's still brilliant.

As for the film itself, I didn't really find it to be racist as such, because I mean isn't most of the actual human trafficking in France run by eastern Europeans? If so, then it's really just the statistics that are 'racist' I suppose. But I agree that it was very clichéed and stereotypical, and the funniest thing about the fact that it was a European production about an American cleaning up and killing all the bad Europeans is that the 'American' in question is European and really struggled to sound American.



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The guy just runs round Paris for 90mins killing everybody he meets.

Have you ever been to Paris, Murph'? Trust me, I felt like doing the same thing when I was there

Like I said, this movie isn't Le Grand Bleu II. You know, you leave your brain on the sidewalk before walking into the theater and pick it up on your way out. But it's damn fine entertainment in my book.


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Especially the crap VIP protection duty in the beginning where Liam averts an attack on a pop-diva from a crazed fan...doesn't have anything to do with the story...it's just an action scene thrown in for good measure...and it utterly fails to engage.

That set up the ending with the singing lesson. Cheesy? Sure, but full circle.


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Have you ever been to Paris, Murph'? Trust me, I felt like doing the same thing when I was there

Like I said, this movie isn't Le Grand Bleu II. You know, you leave your brain on the sidewalk before walking into the theater and pick it up on your way out. But it's damn fine entertainment in my book.


That set up the ending with the singing lesson. Cheesy? Sure, but full circle.


But the singing lessons had nothing to do with the story. It wasn't that it was cheesy, it was that they devoted the better part of 15 minutes of the film to set up a silly cameo. Trust me, there's no way there was anything about singing lessons in the original script. That's some executive going "Uhm, yeah, great script, really, we love it, very intense, but how about putting Holly Valance in the movie?"

The VIP protection detail felt like a rejected subplot from CSI: Miami or something...it wasn't as strong as any of the scenes in Paris, IMO.



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Have you ever been to Paris, Murph'? Trust me, I felt like doing the same thing when I was there .


That's funny, yes, and fair enough, maybe you have got a point there. Though certainly not the whole of France, or the French, but maybe Paris, I will give you that. Maybe Liam is not that bad after all then.







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Probably my favourite movie so far this year, but they could have easily have called this 24 the movie...lol, there were a couple scenes straight out of the show like where liam tries to get a guy to talk but instead of shooting him he shoots his wife, that was right outta day 5 of 24, i got a good chuckle out of that.

Liam does a great job and i think could be an action star.  i liked the locations, and the look of the film, it also has some good torture scenes, i think eli roth could learn a lot in how to film credible torture.  Very entertaining movie.


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Mills: I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Long pause.

Kidnapper: Good luck.


Now if this ain't ridicioulos i don't know what it is. Sure Liam Neeson is great actor, but this action flick is really overrated and stupid.

To quote Roger Ebert:


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If CIA agents in general were as skilled as Bryan Mills in particular, Osama bin Laden would have been an American prisoner since late September 2001



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You're just pissed Liam kicks Albanian ass  


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You're just pissed Liam kicks Albanian ass  


Not really no. I saw the original script and the guys are from Skopje, Macedonia. They must have changed them in the last minute.

The film sucks, even though i love Liam Neeson as an actor.

I'm looking forward to Taking Pelham 123, where Albanians will kick some serious ass alongside John Travolta.  




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This movie was just okay. It has a ton of plot holes and implausible scenarios, but it's still an enjoyable Action movie.

If we're going for a bad-ass though, I'd say Creasy from Man on Fire (a fairly similar film) beats him.

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Damn those Albanians. First they start a war (and I can still hear Willie Nelson singing "Albania Albania", then they kidnap young girls and now they highjack a train.

Them's got issues.


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I saw an earlier cut that was much more violent, so I was pretty shocked to see it had a PG-13 rating.
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I saw an earlier cut that was much more violent, so I was pretty shocked to see it had a PG-13 rating.


Nothing shocks me when it comes to ratings in the US.

Violence does not seem to matter a bit anymore, but show a nipple... "oh my god, think of the children!"

Weird that it is the complete opposite in other countries.
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I hear what you're saying GM but I actually had a weird experience with the whole rating system.

My oldest son, who's 11, was visiting one of his classmates last week and they watched American Pie (which, in Denmark, is rated the equivalent of G). This is an instance where I actually agreed with the R-rating it got by the MPAA - no way is that movie meant for anyone under 17.


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This movie stinks of straight forward mediocrity.

Everything he wants magically appears in front of him. He does very little actual work to get what he wants and the logical ending would not be saving his daughter or killing the bad guy but him being killed and his daughter becoming a hooker in Bangkok.

Look at her and her friend. She is the innocent victim and her friend (Blond) the whore who will sleep with anything are carbon copies of horror dames.

The movie is fun don't get me wrong and I can look past the straight forward nature but it is a place to give an opinion.

Liam Neeson is a bad ass.

This movie is from the guy who made Banlieue 13 (District B13) which is a kick ass movie that I like not for story but for action. The guys sister in that film becomes a druggy whore and that is what would happen if kidnapped.


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That movie is not director's movie, but a producer's movie. It's been produced by a guy (you'll easlily find his name in IMDB) who makes movies in France not with a camera but a Xerox. His goal is to imitate American movies to work in France (and Europa now). But to be honest, his bstuff stinks. Nothing looks sincere. I used to be a huge fan of him when he was making his films himself but he quickly got big-headed. He started producing as soon as he began to have no more success as a director.

I understand his goals to establish an European studio to be independant from the US is a good thing, but why then does he keep copying every US s**t and sometimes do worst. (The Transportor, Hitman, etc...)

you're warned now

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One of the best movies so far this year,  Totally rocks in every way!


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That movie is not director's movie, but a producer's movie. It's been produced by a guy (you'll easlily find his name in IMDB) who makes movies in France not with a camera but a Xerox. His goal is to imitate American movies to work in France (and Europa now). But to be honest, his bstuff stinks. Nothing looks sincere. I used to be a huge fan of him when he was making his films himself but he quickly got big-headed. He started producing as soon as he began to have no more success as a director.

I understand his goals to establish an European studio to be independant from the US is a good thing, but why then does he keep copying every US s**t and sometimes do worst. (The Transportor, Hitman, etc...)

you're warned now

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Are you talking about Luc Besson?

I don't think he had anything to do with Hitman unless you're thinking of another movie of the same name.


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Are you talking about Luc Besson?

I don't think he had anything to do with Hitman unless you're thinking of another movie of the same name.


Thought he's not directly implied into Hitman almost the whole French crew are his people. Xavier Gens is one of his proteges.



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Company credits for Hitman (2007/I) More at IMDbPro »

Production Companies

    * Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation (as Twentieth Century Fox) (presents)
    * Europa Corp.
    * Anka Film
    * Daybreak Productions
    * Dune Entertainment
    * Prime Universe Productions


Europa Corp. Is his.

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Films he is involved with (At least the ones I have watched) are better though so if his goal is to make better films in an American market he is doing his job.

I could ask why the Director of The Grudge remade his film almost exactly for North American... the answer to that baffles me.

At least films like this, District B13, Leon and such get eaten up by everyone and make him loads of cash.


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Luc Besson has also been a producer... I'm pretty sure he produced almost all the films he directed. He used to direct about a film every few years, which he still does... Nowadays the only difference is he produces a lot more than he used to, and the films he produces usually aren't his.

Sure, most of the films he produces are European versions of American action block-busters, he has produced some very good films including Gary Oldman's gritty 'Nil By Mouth' and the amazingly action packed 'District 13'.

And on another note, Leon is awesome.


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And on another note, Leon is awesome.


Leon's character is a kinda crossover with another Besson's film "Nikita". Jean Reno has been in every Besson's film, except the last ones Angel-A" and "Arthur and the Minimoys".

I don't dislike Besson, my only regret is that he's lost his art for the sake of money.

If you can find it, you have to see his 1983 first feature "Le Dernier Combat" (The Last Combat). It worth gold. Black & White, no dialog. But a mine of bright ideas for a moneyless movie. Just like Raimi's first Evil Dead.

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I really couldn't stand the first 20 minutes of this film as everyone spoke in very annoying exposition.

However, once Liam started running around torturing people, I couldn't get enough of it.  I really think the movie could have benefited from getting going a lot quicker.  Maybe even just starting with the kidnapping.
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Leon's character is a kinda crossover with another Besson's film "Nikita". Jean Reno has been in every Besson's film, except the last ones Angel-A" and "Arthur and the Minimoys".


I remember reading that Luc Besson once said that Victor (from Nikita) and Leon were brothers.

Leon is a great film, one of the best films of the 90's. I still stand by my original thoughts that Taken is just not that clever, it works well enough as an action flick but does not work on any other level.

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I haven't seen it yet, but the story sounds a bit like Polanski's "Frantic", isn't it?

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Totally agree with Sniper with this one. Very, very good film - no aspirations to do anything but entertain, and it achieves this stylishly.

Liam Neeson was absolutely perfect for the role, and he gave a level of depth that seemed non-existent in the script.

Good entertainment.

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I thought Taken was a good entertaining film.  A different take on the spy genre.

I'd recommend this film.


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Luc Besson knows how to make this kind of thing in his sleep!

It's weakest link for me was the casting of Neeson. I just could not see him in the role. Having said that, it was entertaining and I'd rather watch this than a lot of actual Hollywood action films.

Besson for the next James Bond movie, I say!
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Saw this a number of months ago in its theatrical run.

I was not impressed at all, and was shocked at how well it did and how long it ran.  Nothing at all stood out here except how absurd most of the scenes were.

I did not hate it either, but like Dressel said earlier, the first 20 minutes or so were just awful, slow, and so unbeleivable.  Things got better, but everything was just so easy for Old Liam, and the finale didn't offer much either.

So so flick that way out performed expectations.

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this film was nothing more than 90 minutes of liam kicking ass. is that a bad thing? this film proves that its not

plus as others had mentioned, it has a nice style to it.

i really enjoyed it but knew going into it that it wouldnt be very deep. i encourage others to go in thinking the same thing (or else you might be disappointed)


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