The best of the Friday films.

The movie picks up where the original left off. Mama Voorhees has is about to kill the last surviving Camp Counselor, whom she blames for her son Jason's death. Mama loses her head and little Jason (who did NOT drown) watches it happen. Fast forward almost 30 years and Jason is now a man. He lives off the land, hunting prey and doing what he must to survive. Needless to say a group of careless college kids arrive and disrupt Jason's peaceful life. He goes ape shit and a lot of people die.

The Good. I'm not gonna lie, I liked almost everything about this film. Technically it is the most well made Friday film, hell maybe even the most well made slasher film. The cast is awesome and they all do a great job with their characters. Especially Aaron Yoo and Travis Van Winkle. Derek Mears is the best Jason, moving swiftly and hitting hard. The kills aren't as over the top as the original films were, but they are far more realistic and every bit as creative. The sleeping bag death scene in particular is pretty ate up. Another thing I liked was that the characters weren't oblivious to what was going on. They learn rather quickly that there is a masked mad man out in the woods and that they are all in a lot of trouble.

The Bad. This is being picky, but I feel it must be said. Two of the characters, Nolan and Chelsea, where nothing but a plot device to get rid of the groups SUV. They could have easily been cut and the film wouldn't have missed a beat. That said, their death scenes were pretty cool.

So yeah... Not only is this the best Friday film. It could easily be a new benchmark in the slasher sub genre. I wouldn't call it a remake, at least not a remake of the original. It's more a of a restart for the sequels. The movie may not be poetic art, but it is damn fun. If you were expecting anything else, then you are missing the point.

4/4

~Zack~

This movie is going to be either really good or really bad. I was thinking of seeing it last night, but some problems happened and I ended up not seeing it. I was going to see it tonight, but I don't feel like going out, so it's going to have to wait.

But it better be just as good as you say it is. Since you love slasher films, I'm afraid I don't know if I should take your word for it. If it's a slasher film, you're bound to like it, right? That's how I am with zombie movies (at least the big budget ones). If it's a zombie film, I know I'll like it.

So I need to hear other peoples' insights before I see this flick.

But I did look through your Friday the 13th script thread and saw that I actually read the script, and then the very last post on the thread really made me laugh inside. It's a post made by you, and in it you say:

Quoted Text I love the Friday the 13th movies and I wanted to make my own remake before someone else fucked it up.

Ironic, no?


Sean

Haha. Yes. My script is a steaming pile of donkey doo doo compared to the new film. Go see it now! I've already watched it 3 times and I'm going again tomorrow.

~Zack~

I personally hated it.  I've never actually thought "wow, what a waste of money" as much as after I walked out of the theatre yesterday.  I know people say that every plots been done and blah bah blah, but there was literally not a single original thing in this movie.  It was almost as if they were striving to use every cliche in the book, and the characters are so retarded that you can't even begin to think that they might be even remotely based on humans with brains.

But if thats your sort of thing, I mean, to each his own.

The film is a remake of a rip off and you're complaining that it's not original. Tell me, what were you expecting? Also, what made the characters retarded to you? Yeah they were a bunch of crotch creams, but isn't that what Friday films are about. A bunch of walking cliches have sex, do some drugs, and then get slaughtered.

Not trying to pick a fight or anything. Like you said, to each his own.

~Zack~

I really don't see the point in someone complaining about a lack of originality in a damn REMAKE. And in this particular case, this claim is even more ridiculous considering Friday 13th and Halloween pretty much set the standard Horror cliches we all know today.

That being said, I had to hold back on watching it (personal matters), so I haven't seen it yet. I may end up hating it

I hated the original so this one doesn't really have much of a chance. I'll wait till this film is in the bargain bin with the rest of the horror films people call classic and are really not that good.

So you two are saying that a re-make can't be original?  And being a remake excuses it from having to be original?  That seems ridiculous to me.

The entire concept behind a remake should theoretically be "How can we take an old idea and put a new light on it that makes it original in some way?", and then if they do a good job with that they've created a good movie that stands alone as its own thought, and makes lots of money doing it.

This had absolutely nothing original in it and to me that makes it a bad movie.  Even for a remake.  My bloody valentine was a remake, and while by no means a totally original film, it kept me interested; which is more than I can say about friday.

RE: Characters.  I'll agree with you that character development is never a big thing in slashers, but never have I ever felt so separate from them before in my life.  Yeah, you've got to give the audience what it wants, boobs, sex, drugs, etc., but there is a threshold.  It seemed like the characters in this movie were just robotic vessels to bring the boobs sex and drugs to the screen.  The following thoughts were the only ones expressed by the the majority of the cast:

-Have Sex
-Get wasted
-Be naked

And then there was the snobby dude, who had the above AND:

-Protect house
-Protect Girlfriend

And thats it.  It was like watching a rated-r Porno.  Pointless.

This isn't just any remake though. This is a remake of a film that wasn't original to begin with.

~Zack~

Watched this ealier tonight, was very, very happy.

I cant really say too much, there's not much to say but thank God they brought back the traditions of the Friday The 13th movies and just didnt look for anything else! This is what I wanted - and what I got and more.

Delighted, it was like being back in the 80s again but in the 2000s...

Jason was at his best if not THE best...

It's not original, its not a new idea - and it dosnt try to be. For some, thats a bad film - for fans and those that crave the slashfests from year gone past, it is a golden egg.

I loved it, from seeing Jason sink as low as he did in the late 80s to this movie in 2009 is amazing to me. But then you need to be a bit on the weird side I guess to appreciate that!

Amen,
4/4

SPOILERS!!!

I watched it on friday the 13th. lol. I liked it. I think it had some originality in it. They killed off almost a whole cast in the beginning, never seen that before. With that beginning, they set up Jason and his history of massacring people. The black guy fought Jason before being killed. They even killed the love interest.

The characters didn't really matter much except for Jason.  He was the star.

Not much else to say. I enjoyed watching the film.

Gabe

This movie was pretty sweet, had everything you want in a slasher film, lots of sex, lots of drugs, lots of alcohol and lots of gruesome killings, but what made me love this movie was a scene 'bout 15 min into, one guys trying to bone this oiled up hottie with big oiled up tits so his buddy leaves and turns on his ipod, at first I didn't know what the song was but I recognized it, then the song got louder and louder, then the drums kicked in and I knew it, my eyes lit up like Christmas lights and had a grin from ear to ear, then blasting through out the cinema was Sister Christan by Night Ranger, at that moment I knew this movie was gonna rock, I had a gut feeling, and my gut is never wrong.  This movie is gonna deliver.  This worked sooooo much better than the Halloween remake, first off the characters aren't vile cruel disgusting human beings other than the guy who works in the barn, but he was funny, and there is the jerk, but at least not everyone else is so hateful.  Also the movie isn't depressing, even though its fill with gore it has an up beat feel to it, there is a lot of fun going on.  plus I like how Jason doesn't just run, he charges...so sweet.  The movie does leave a few questions but I didn't care at all, like how he keeps that one girl hostage for 6 weeks, obviously he's feeding her, I'd love there to have been a scene where Jason is cooking her supper, I mean he has electricity all through the camp I'm sure he knows how to make kraft dinner.  Also, why has he never killed anyone else who lives around there until 28 years later, he pretty much leaves everyone alone till these kids show up, and I'm sure they been to that cabin before and now Jason goes after them, still I didn't care, the movie was just too much fun.  All in all if you're a fan of mad slasher films you'll like it, if not, why the fuck would you waste $8 and 2hrs outta your life

Quoted from The boy who could fly Sister Christan by Night Ranger

I hate that goddamn song, and can only tolerate it in the "baseball" scene in Boogie Nights.

I just felt compelled to say that.

Quoted from Shelton I hate that goddamn song, and can only tolerate it in the "baseball" scene in Boogie Nights.

...lol  

Works better in FDT13TH though

Quoted from Shelton I hate that goddamn song, and can only tolerate it in the "baseball" scene in Boogie Nights. I just felt compelled to say that.

Never saw Boogie Nights, but ditto on the ". . .hate that gd song" part!

Quoted from The boy who could fly what made me love this movie was a scene 'bout 15 min into, one guys trying to bone this oiled up hottie with big oiled up tits so his buddy leaves and turns on his ipod, at first I didn't know what the song was but I recognized it, then the song got louder and louder, then the drums kicked in and I knew it, my eyes lit up like Christmas lights and had a grin from ear to ear, then blasting through out the cinema was Sister Christan by Night Ranger, at that moment I knew this movie was gonna rock, I had a gut feeling, and my gut is never wrong.  This movie is gonna deliver.

I perked up in that scene as well.Right then and there I realized that I was in for a treat.

~Zack~

So this movie was about what I was expecting. No better or worse than any of the others, I guess.

Had some nice touches - like all of Jason's traps, tunnels and trip wires, etc. Always wondered how he managed to know where all of his intended victims were, and how he managed to be everywhere at once. Now I know.

Had some problems though. Why did Jason keep Whitney alive? Did I miss something or was this never explained? Thought it was an interesting subplot for an F13 flick, but if there was no reason for him not to kill her, why was she kept in his little dungeon? She didn't seem to do anything for him. She was just kind of there. Am I just an inattentive moron. or was this a huge plot hole?

Second thing. The killings are too evenly spread out. There aren't too many deaths, they just happen so frequently that by the time we get to the climax, the movie doesn't step it up. It starts, reaches a certain level of intensity and stays there right through to the end credits. The stakes aren't raised for the finale, so the ending fell on its face a little.

Other than that, no real problems. As has been pointed out, this version doesn't try to do anything new, but it's also not pretending to be anything but what it is. The new Jason was cool, some of the kills were pretty awesome and the script had an interesting take on the F13 mythology. I'd personally rather watch the older ones than this new one, but it's not a bad way to spend 90 minutes.

I liked it, sorta, but was very disappointed.

SOME SPOILERS -- NOTHING MAJOR

I felt that a majority of the kills were uninspired and lacked the creative push this franchise always strived for. There is no moment like the "bed kill" in Freddy vs. Jason or the frozen head smash in Jason X. All of the deaths are either simple stabbings or horribly exaggerated torture scenes (roasting sleeping bags? Bear traps? Seriously?)

Even Jason's iconic "masking" moment was a missed opportunity. I assumed (and hoped) he would get the hockey mask by killing a prankster who was wearing it. Instead, he just finds it in a decrepit shed full of novelty crap, and the movie still makes a big deal out of it! If this wasn't a remake, the audience would be shrugging and asking why all of this emphasis was being placed on such a trivial thing.

Then there was the music. Where the hell was the signature "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" theme? I think I heard it twice, and both times, it was pretty much with the credits. This hardly felt like a Jason movie because of it.

I'm not even mentioning the times in the film where the director of photography must have fell asleep and made the camera go out of focus.

I will admit that, as much as I was disappointed, there were a few good scenes. The attack on the wakeboarding couple was very well done and surprising, although I wished it would've shown what happened to that damn boat. Maybe it'll appear in the background of one of the future sequels, just driving by.

There was also a good guessing game regarding the film's final girl, and there's a very unexpected death scene that settles the matter.

Overall, though, there were too many opportunities the filmmakers didn't notice or chose to ignore. I was entertained, but very underwhelmed.

I have to say that this was...not good.

I went into it really wanting to like it, but when it's all said and done I was left wondering "If I take away Jason and the title, would this be any different than the abundance of other slasher films I've watched in recent months?"

The answer is no.  This got all the hype and the wide release based on that fact only, and the truth of the matter is that this is no better than something like "Hatchet".

I have no idea what the hell you guys are talking about with the Sister Christian part either.  The guy was listening to it on his Ipod, and that was over and done before anything actually happened.

Two stars.  Barely.

SPOILERS

Chism, the reason Jason kept Whitney alive is because she looked like his mom. Remember the lock it she picked up? The picture in it was a young Mama Voorhees, and it looks just like Whitney. Wait for the unrated DVD, it'll explain more.

~Zack~

Ahh. The old keeping a woman locked in my basement because she reminds me of my decapitated mother thing. Should've guessed.

Thanks, Zack.  

Quoted from chism Ahh. The old keeping a woman locked in my basement because she reminds me of my decapitated mother thing. Should've guessed.

Yep. I've been there.

~Zack~

Well, regardless of its quality, it's hard to argue with an opening weekend of $42m, especially when your budget was only $19m. I smell a sequel...

So when they release the sequel, will they call it Friday the 13th 2 or Friday the 13th Part II?

I can imagine the shelves now. Friday the 13th next to Friday the 13th next to Friday the 13th 2 next to Friday the 13th Part 2 next to Friday the 13th 3D next to... probably Friday the 13th 3D since MBV3D did good enough.

Madness.

I would imagine they will call it "Friday The 13th Part II" Hey, I liked the new one. MBV3D was good too

But if this first one is a remake of elements of the first 4 movies, that means Part 2 2 will be a remake of part 5, which means 3D 2 will be 6. So by the time we get to remaking Jason X, it will be elements from the first remake.

Friday the 13th is going to collapse in on itself. The black hole will consume us all.

It was hard for me to decide if I liked this movie or not. MY girlfriend and I saw it Saturday, I didn't know what to think of it until I watched the other Fridays again (so I could make up my mind). I made it official, I do like this movie. The new one is more brutal, dark and eerie than the other Friday the 13ths. Good Job Marcus, you remade a cult favorite, and you didn't mess up like Rob Zombie did.
I also like how he didn't re-make the first one (I know, I know, a "re-imaging"), but in a way he wrapped up the first three movies into one and he managed to make it work. That is why I liked this, as well as the fact that it somewhat stuck with the cheesy horror movies of today, a homage to the cheesy 80's versions of Friday the 13th. I will be buying this whenever it comes out on DVD.
Friday the 13th (2009) 7.2/10

I saw this today and I thought it was pretty rubbish. I even got bored in some bits. This is the first Friday the 13th movie I had seen, so I went in not comparing it with the other films.

I knew what was going to happen before I went in the cinema, which isn't always a bad thing, but it wasn't done in a way which justified it being cliche.

Bad acting, bad character development, okay set, way too much artificial lighting (it didn't even look like moonlight at all), the ending was stupid, and I wont watch it again. I don't really understand how it made so much bloody money.

I have to say I'm not a fan of the genre, so that will sway me liking it or not.

Of course theres bad acting.  It's a Friday the 13th movie.

The series is notorious for bad acting...and blood...and TNA.

I've always been a fan of the series so I liked it.  It was much better than some of the crap sequels in the past.

This was a pointless remake. It does a by the book horror film and makes no bones about how bland it is.

The first group of kids were better in my opinion and they died so these other kids could take center stage and be annoying.

Even the ending was expected.

This film deserves the imdb rating of 6.0 because it is only average.

The Killer Cut DVD is even better than the theater version. The new versions only like 1o minutes longer, but there are a ton of alternate camera angles throughout, so really there must be at least 30 minutes of new footage. One thing that bothered me in this new version is Whitney's escape scene. It's a bit pointless. I get the feeling that we're still missing quite a bit of footage. There's also an alternate barn scene where Jason gets his mask that works SO much better. I have no idea why this scene wasn't used for the theater cut. Anyways, if you liked it in theaters, check it out.

~Zack~

Let's see if this makes any sense: It's horrible but fun. So all in all, I liked it. Got some cool killing scenes but mostly just horror cliches

Finally saw this today on Blu-ray.  I was actually quite impressed with it, on just about every level.

I have been a fan of the series, but thought that pretty much every sequel after Part 3 was bad, and each got worse.  Jason X and Freddy vs. Jason were much better than the middle 6 or so.  I've seen all of them at the theater, so there I go dating myself again.

So I went in not sure what to expect.  First of all, the production was very good.  Lighting, sound, and sets were all well done.  The FX were very good, and I even thought the acting was close to top notch.  I didn't have any cringe moments in terms of acting or even spoken lines.  Sure, there were some dumb things that various characters did, and Jason sure does have a knack for getting around to exactly where he needs to be, but overall, it worked well for me.

I liked how Jason was portrayed as a much leaner, meaner version of his old lumbering self. He was much more brutal, also, which I feel helped with the overall feel of this re-imagining of the franchise.

OK, now for the T & A, which was more than impressive.  These girls were hot as shit and had amazing racks.  The nudity and sex scenes were even done in a way that it really didn't come off as completely gratuitous, so kudos for that.

I'm impressed with Nispel's take on this, and I feel he, the cast, and the entire production crew did a very good job here.  I was expecting much less, so I've got to say, I'm impressed and actually look forward to another.

I rented this for a friend and decided to watch it again with her, hoping to get a better opinion of it. I sorta liked it the first time in the theater, but the more I thought about it afterwards, the more I hated it. I was hoping this second viewing would win me over.

Man, what a mistake. It was even worse the second time around.

Some problems I had with the film: I didn't want to rewind any of the death scenes, which is a horrible thing as I do it at least once in most slasher movies. The sex was extremely gratutious. I watch slasher movies for the creative kills, not for the five minutes of two teenagers pounding each other with no gory payoff. Complete waste of a potentially good scene.

I thought there were too many characters falling into the same basic traps; Asian guy wanders off alone and gets killed. Black guy looks for Asian guy alone and gets killed. Busty bimbo walks upstairs alone looking for boyfriend and gets killed. Boyfriend runs alone through the woods and gets killed. With no creative deaths to justify this repetition, it's a nightmare.

Even my friend looked at me ten minutes into the movie and asked if the script was written by chimps. I threw up my hands in a "why the hell not!" gesture.

I did find myself loving the part where the two kids are walking around the cabin, and the girl asks her boyfriend, "What if a homeless man lives here?"

Then he's not homeless, dumbass!

A complete waste of time and money. For me, it killed the franchise. It'll take one hell of a sequel to get me interested again.

Quoted from Sham The sex was extremely gratutious.

there is no such thing, sex scenes are never ever ever ever ever gratuitous !

Sham, I'm honestly very surprised to read this.

Killed the franchise?  Are you frickin' kiddin' me?  It revived a completely dead franchsie!  It did $91 Million worldwide!  Probably close to the total of the first 10 actual Friday movies combined (well, not quite, but you know what I mean)!

I've read all the posts in here, and wanted to comment on Shelton's, where he said, take away the iconic Jason, and it's no different, or better, than Hatchet.  WTF?  C'mon!  Complete and total difference in literally everything.  I mean, look at most, or pretty much any typical slasher flick, and you should see huge differences in production values, lighting, sound, FX, and again, even acting.  I'm usually a real stickler when it comes to being critical (as most of you know), but the acting here was more than decent.  I was actually very impressed with Padelecki, for one.  He delivered his lines with real conviction, and I never once felt he did a poor job.

Your quote about the "homeless man" needs to be taken in context...it came from a chick, that just may be pretty lame brained.  Know what I mean?

Overall, this was well done, and a huge step up from just about all cheapass slasher flciks over the years.

To me, personally, ---- Didn't like it. It's literally a remake of the 1st 4 films if you think about the characters and plot points used inside it.  

1 - The guy looking for his sister after she goes missing. Believes Jason is behind it.  -- We seen this in part 4.

2 - He gets his iconic hockey mask -- We seen this in part 3.

3 - (SPOILER)  He bust up from underneath the bottom of the dock to get ol' girl at the end...  -- We seen this in part 2.

4 - We see his mom get her head knocked off -- We seen this in part 1

---

This was a 90 min movie that tried to cram nearly 8 hours of content into the time... Not only that, they did it in record time.  They spent way too long on the intro cast who we never see again and all die. Why? Why even bother building these characters, who by the way were all much more likable than the cast we are left with aftwards... They took nearly 20 min to tell their story and kill them off.

It was a ho hum experience, riddled with been there and seen it all moments. I also didn't like the choice of Jason. He just wasn't as fitting to me. Even the Jason from the abysmal Freddy vs Jason was a much better candidate... He was much larger and much more imposing.

Thumbs down for me.  

Balt, they purposely brought in elements from the first 4 flicks.  They did this as an homage and also to give older fans of the franchise stuff they would recognize and relate to...and appreciate.

I didn't personally like the very ending, but, you're defintely right, and they did this completely conciously.

The long intro was quite unique, actualy, and proves that you can do LITERALLY anything, and get away with it...or make it work.  I also liked the initial cast as much or more than the main cast.  Why build these characters?  Why not build any and every character?  How many times did the franchise literally intro a character who was killed within seconds or minutes?  Alot!  And no one appreciated it...me for sure on that note!

I'm just very surprised with all the negatives, as IMO, it was just so obviously so many levels above most of the garbage we get in this genre.  What were you expecting?  They had to follow a certain formula and they did, but they upped the ante in every department...mostly in production value, which I for one, totally appreciate.

Quoted from Dreamscale Sham, I'm honestly very surprised to read this. Killed the franchise?  Are you frickin' kiddin' me?  It revived a completely dead franchsie!  It did $91 Million worldwide!  Probably close to the total of the first 10 actual Friday movies combined (well, not quite, but you know what I mean)!

I'm not gonna lie, the movie did awesome at the box office. It holds the record for one of the biggest horror opening weekends. That's huge.

However, if we're bringing box office success into this, it's just as easy to bring up its shortcomings, and this movie also holds a record for one of the biggest dropoffs of all time. That's huge, too.

The Friday the 13th franchise is not dead because of this movie. It made too much money for that to happen. What I meant was that this movie killed the franchise for me because, no matter how awesome a future sequel is hyped to be, I more than likely will avoid it. I don't care to see what happens next from here. The same thing happened with me and the Saw movies. I stopped after Part III because it went in a direction I didn't want to follow.

Quoted from Dreamscale I'm usually a real stickler when it comes to being critical (as most of you know), but the acting here was more than decent.  I was actually very impressed with Padelecki, for one.  He delivered his lines with real conviction, and I never once felt he did a poor job. .

I'm surprised you liked it.

It is a step up but that's not saying much.

The only Marcus Nispel film I enjoyed was Frankenstein. Pathfinder was decent and Chainsaw was average.

I hope his Conan movie will be what Pathfinder should have been. At the very least a good action film.

Yeah, I saw Pathfinder at the theater, and also own the deluxe DVD, but it's not what it should have been.  If you read about the production, you'll find out all the hitches they had and that it was postponed for a shit long time!

I do love a good Viking flick though.  Ever seen the clasic "Long Ships" with Richard Widmark and Sydney Poiter?  I remember so well watching that with my Dad on TV...again and again...and again.  We both loved it!  Great flick!

I thought Nispel's TCM was a big step in the right direction.  I was actually quite impressed as a whole.

Nispel is a very talented director and has great style. I'm looking forward to Conan, and hope he returns for Friday 2!!!

~Zack~

Ha Ha, this was great.

Put off seeing it for a while because for some reason I epected it to be terrible, especially after how poor the Halloween remake was.

This was the complete opposite, it was the best one they've ever made.

I've always loved the Jason films. F13 and Maniac Cop were always my favourite of this kind of film, and it was incredibly gratifying to watch a film that brought back that era in such style. Really a treat to watch, I must say.

Jason was excellent, he had a brilliant physical presence and felt genuinely threatening in a way I'm not sure he ever has before.

The first twenty minutes of this with the initial cast really blew me away, I have to say. It started brilliantly with the Mother scene and just went from strength to strength. It was very intense and left me quite shocked as to how good it was; Much, much better than I anticipated.

There were some flaws. The ending fell more than a bit flat and there were a few logic lapses: Police couldn't find his sister, but they couldn't have looked very hard round the camp considering he keeps a lighted altar to his mum that everyone stumbles on...

That being said though, who cares?

This was the best slasher I've seen.

Good to hear, Dec.  I agree with you, as is obvious with my review.  This was indeed a few flights better than anything F13 has ever done...well...the first 2 were definitely standouts for their time, but taking everything into consideration, this was well done on just about every level.

Hey, we agree on something, huh?  Cool!

Well, Jeff and Dec have just made my cool list. You're both invited to drink my imaginary beer whenever you'd like.

~Zack~

Anyone actually like this shitty excuse for a movie? Very surprising.

I personally thought it was boring. Not scary. Not funny. Just boring. First of all, you've got a very very tired premise here - that would have been okay if they had given it a decent atmosphere (like the TCM remake) but no. Instead you've these "characters" who were so annoying you were just hoping they would get off'ed as quickly as possible so that this movie could be put out of its missery.

Because this movie sucks on pretty much every level, I'm starting to wonder whether or not they made it this bad on purpose - and failed. Sometimes a movie can be so bad it's actually good - definitely not the case here, this movie's so bad it's actually just...bad.

Snipes,

Each to their own and all that, but there have been no less than 11 previous films before. If you didn't know what you were letting yourself in for, it's really your fault, not the films.

It does have some problems, but the first twenty minutes were outstanding. The latter part of the film was the only part that let it down, at some point you strangely found yourself routing for Jason again, something that always seems to happens in films of this type, but they had managed to counteract earlier on.

Quite why they'd carry a murderer all the way to the lake to push him in was a bit odd as well. They were basically incriminating themselves in their friends murder.

But all of that aside, it was an extremely enjoyable slasher film. It seems that some people expected Othello...

Quoted from Zack The Killer Cut DVD is even better than the theater version. The new versions only like 1o minutes longer, but there are a ton of alternate camera angles throughout, so really there must be at least 30 minutes of new footage. One thing that bothered me in this new version is Whitney's escape scene. It's a bit pointless. I get the feeling that we're still missing quite a bit of footage. There's also an alternate barn scene where Jason gets his mask that works SO much better. I have no idea why this scene wasn't used for the theater cut. Anyways, if you liked it in theaters, check it out. ~Zack~

Zack,

How do I know which version I've watched? I've only seen one. I'm guessing it's the Killer ut version because Whitney escapes half way through with some wire from a GPS? Fits with what you are saying.

What happened with the mask in the original? In the one I saw, he got it when he killed that weed-smoking hick.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films It seems that some people expected Othello...

Can't speak for anyone else but I expected to be - if not scared, then at least to be put at the edge of my seat or, at the very minimum, an elevated heart rate. The only thing that was on the edge of my seat was the drool rolling off my lips as I was trying desperately not to doze off.

You mention the first twenty minutes, by that, do you mean the Jason's-mother-losing-her-head-scene or the "marijuana expedition" opening (which ran waaaaaaaay too long)?

Quoted from sniper Can't speak for anyone else but I expected to be - if not scared, then at least to be put at the edge of my seat or, at the very minimum, an elevated heart rate. The only thing that was on the edge of my seat was the drool rolling off my lips as I was trying desperately not to doze off. You mention the first twenty minutes, by that, do you mean the Jason's-mother-losing-her-head-scene or the "marijuana expedition" opening (which ran waaaaaaaay too long)?

The whole of the part with the initial cast. That was an amazing opening, totally blew me away. Just long enough to dispel the idea they were cannon fodder, not long enough to make it a distraction.

The rest of the film couldn't quite keep up with the level that set, but it was still a great ride.

It never ceases to amaze me how different people's reactions can be. Literally the polar opposites.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films Just long enough to dispel the idea they were cannon fodder

Except for Jason, aren't all characters in F13-movies basically cannon fodder?

Quoted from sniper Except for Jason, aren't all characters in F13-movies basically cannon fodder?

There's usually someone who survives long enough to kill Jason again...and again....and again....

The expectation was that these people would form the core of the story, at least it was when I watched it, I didn't know anything about it. So when they all got offed it was surprising and enjoyable.

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films Zack, How do I know which version I've watched? I've only seen one. I'm guessing it's the Killer ut version because Whitney escapes half way through with some wire from a GPS? Fits with what you are saying. What happened with the mask in the original? In the one I saw, he got it when he killed that weed-smoking hick.

Yeah that's the killer cut. In the theater cut she doesn't escape until her brother rescues her.

The deleted scene where Jason gets his mask is similar to the one in the actual film, just gorier. Jason is caught stealing gas from the barn and the red neck dude(who found the mask and put it on) gets his head cut off by Jason. The he puts on the mask. If you still got the dvd just watch the deleted scenes.

~Zack~