Quoted from cloroxmartini http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA&feature=related

Posted this in another thread already. Not sure people can handle the truth, haha! ...or at least this guy's longwinded but eloquently presented opinions. Anyway, it's funny whatever you think of the movie, so long as you have a sense of humor.

Seen that link last night, it was worth it even though I enjoyed the film, the guy has a point.

I guess, if I saw this review before I saw the film, I may not have seen it.

Saw Avatar on Blu Ray last week and I was surprised that it actually looked better in 2D. Some of the 3D stuff (especially the background) got a little blurry in the theater but in 2D the shit was crisp. Obvisouly the 2D lacks the cool depth stuff of the 3D but I think overall it looked better in 2D.

That being said, the story and characters are still very very weak and - for the first time with a Cameron movie - I doubt I'll be seeing it again.

It literally amazes me that people still say the characters and story were weak.

The characters for the most part were strong and the story was moving and "real".

With all the completely horrendous piles of steaming shit we are constantly subjected to, it amazes me that people continue to trash the #1 film of all time.

Quoted from Dreamscale ...it amazes me that people continue to trash the #1 film of all time.

No one here's trashing The Shawshank Redemption.

Funny, Rob...very funny!

As much as I love Stephen King and the vast majority of actors in Shawshank, I really didn't enjoy it as a movie.

[cough]bullshit[/cough]

Seriously, my problem with Avatar is that it's a severely watered down knock-off of Dances With Wolves. I have no problem with movies borrowing elements from other movies, I mean, it's done all the time but when you don't even try to disguise it - and maybe more importantly - when the end result is a far inferior compared to the source material then that's when the wheels come off.

But I'm actually looking forward to Avatar II, it'll be interesting to see what movie/book it's gonna be based on.

Rob, you're seriously cracking me up with your comments today.  I appreciate it as it was a rough weekend.  I need all the laughs I can get.

Avatar was an experience at the theatre in 3d. That experience will not happen again at home and that's why I will not buy it nor watch it again. The story just isn't good enough for a 2nd watch.

Quoted from Grandma Bear Avatar was an experience at the theatre in 3d. That experience will not happen again at home and that's why I will not buy it nor watch it again. The story just isn't good enough for a 2nd watch.

Exactly! I've talked about this film at length so I'm not going to get into it again, but this was a theme park ride, not a movie. And you can't reassemble a roller coaster in your living room.

Not unless it's a fuckin' big room.

What is it about the story and characters that worked for you, Jeff? I'm genuinely curious. Avatar seems like a perfect example of what you'd be against. Cookie-cutter, by-the-numbers, dumbed down, playing it safe... take your pick. To this day, your tastes are an enigma to me and your love of Avatar only serves to muddy the waters further.

Like I said. Just curious. I did like the movie, even if it didn't "wow" me. The fact that it's the #1 movie means nothing to me though. The average movie goer might as well be huffing paint fumes as far as I'm concerned.

Quoted from JonnyBoy And you can't reassemble a roller coaster in your living room.

But I can...IN MY BEDROOM.

Strap yourself in, baby, you're going for one hell of a ride!

And short one too.

Quoted from Dreamscale It literally amazes me that people still say the characters and story (in Avatar) were weak.

Quoted from Dreamscale Shawshank...I really didn't enjoy it as a movie.

Quoted from James McClung To this day, your tastes are an enigma to me...

Haha....you and me both, James.  Jeff is on a roll today.

The characters worked for me because they came across as "real".  Sure, there were some cliches in there, but it was obviously done for impact (and the fact that it's a massive Hollywood movie).

For me, it was very powerful and emotional, and I'm definitely not one who says that very often. I had tears in my eyes at several times during the movie.  Although I pretty much "knew" how it would all play out in the end, I still wasn't sure, as many, many characters died violent deaths.

You know, I say this so often, and I guess it's tough for others to understand where I'm coming from, when I say this.  IMO, a movie either works, or it doesn't work. And for me, it's usually very cut and dry which way it goes.  This worked on virtually every level for me.

Story-wise, although it may be very similar to many, many stories and movies, it all felt very fresh to me...maybe it had alot to do with the visuals and production, but in no way did I ever feel like I was watching a reconstituted, dumbed down copy of anything else.

Don't know if this helps or not, but these are my feelings here.

I watched Avatar yesterday on DVD.

It's an absoilute load of smurf twaddle.

Admittedly there's some good scenes. In amongst a load of crap ones.

The lines are rubbish.

If I was twelve again I might enjoy it. But I'm not.

Absolute big pile of overhyped shite.

Love and peace,

R