SimplyScripts Discussion Board
Blog Home - Produced Movie Script Library - TV Scripts - Unproduced Scripts - Contact - Site Map
ScriptSearch
Welcome, Guest.
It is April 16th, 2024, 6:21pm
Please login or register.
Was Portal Recent Posts Home Help Calendar Search Register Login
Please do read the guidelines that govern behavior on the discussion board. It will make for a much more pleasant experience for everyone. A word about SimplyScripts and Censorship


Produced Script Database (Updated!)

Short Script of the Day | Featured Script of the Month | Featured Short Scripts Available for Production
Submit Your Script

How do I get my film's link and banner here?
All screenplays on the simplyscripts.com and simplyscripts.net domain are copyrighted to their respective authors. All rights reserved. This screenplaymay not be used or reproduced for any purpose including educational purposes without the expressed written permission of the author.
Forum Login
Username: Create a new Account
Password:     Forgot Password

SimplyScripts Screenwriting Discussion Board    Reviews    Movie, Television and DVD Reviews  ›  Surveillance Moderators: Nixon
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 5 Guests

 Pages: « 1, 2 : All
Recommend Print
  Author    Surveillance  (currently 1637 views)
Dreamscale
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:05pm Report to Moderator
Guest User



Yes, Jennifer Lynch is David Lynch's daughter.  She did Boxing Helena a number of years back.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 15 - 25
Baltis.
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:07pm Report to Moderator
Guest User




Quoted from Electric Dreamer


Jeff,

Nah, I didn't see it coming.
To me, the twist reduced the two most interesting characters to caricatures.
I found them so much more fascinating as they were, performance wise too.
I wanted much more time with them and less witness whining.
Alas, the production was probably lucky to get those big names for a limited time.
I neither loved nor hated the film, I'll look forward to her next effort.
BTW, is Jennifer Lynch any relation to David Lynch? Nothing on IMDB about it.

Thanks for the recommendation.
I had not heard of this neat little production until you mentioned it.

Regards,
E.D.



To have more hands on time would have deluded them more.  They'd have become just two other cast members that way.  I felt we got too much of them.  I started to unravel how off they were and I think with a little more editing they could've eliminated this.

In any event, I loved the movie.  I bought the flick on PSN recently, as I love my digital downloads and it's even in Hd.  One of the best flicks I've seen in the last 5 years still.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 16 - 25
Murphy
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:22pm Report to Moderator
Guest User



Yeah she is his daughter, not sure what she actually does, this is first film since Boxing Helena and how long ago was that?? I did like Boxing Helena, I have not seen it since it was first out so no idea how well it has stood the test of time. I can't even remember much of it, though remember thinking it was wonderfully different.

This film to me is a great example of style over substance, It has some great moments where the "young grasshopper" shows she has learned something from Daddy. It is dark, there is some real lynchonian (a quick google tells me I have just invented this word!) mystery around it but ultimately the script lets it down, it lacks intelligence and the twist is just abysmal.

When there is a twist ending that i have not already guessed (very rare) I want to be able to look back at the film and go "yeah, wow, brilliant" or words to that effect. Even if it is a twist I have guessed then I am often happy with it, it usually means it makes sense, it has been thought out logically - because at the end of the day that is how one usually works out the twist, through logic. Then there is the twist ending in which the twist is so obvious, and so bad from the beginning that you watch the rest of the film hoping, just hoping that it is a red herring designed to throw you off the trail and is not actually going to be the twist at all...

I get very angry when my first reaction to a twist ending is "what the fuck!! You stupid bastards I want my 90 mins of wasted life back!!" Which was exactly my reaction to this film.

Hollywood does not need anymore of this. It really doesn't.


** Actually I am a little unfair to Jennifer Lynch, all things considering it was an okay film, there are plenty worse. She might make a good film one day, and we do need people with different ideas making films. All she really needs is a decent script that she can apply her style to.

Revision History (2 edits; 1 reasons shown)
Murphy  -  November 10th, 2010, 7:40pm
Logged
e-mail Reply: 17 - 25
Dreamscale
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:46pm Report to Moderator
Guest User



Balt, totally agree with you, other than it's the best I've seen in x years.

Murphy, as always, I completely disagree with you.  This was a brilliant twist, and well pulled off also.

As I said in my original post on this movie, I did actually say out loud to my girlfriend, something's up with those 2 (Pullman and Ormand).  I said a few minutes later, I wonder if they're behind this in some way...they seem off.

My issue with the movie were that it was a bit too whacky in that all the characters were over the top...and a bit TOO over the top, as ell as the fact that $3.5 Million just wasn't quite enough to pull this off the way it should/could have been pulled off.

It's a great, way under the radar flick though and for me, totally entertaining and memorable.

Ormand and Pullman's "shotgun" scene near the end is pure genius, IMO.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 18 - 25
Murphy
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 7:53pm Report to Moderator
Guest User




Quoted from Dreamscale
My issue with the movie were that it was a bit too whacky in that all the characters were over the top...and a bit TOO over the top, as ell as the fact that $3.5 Million just wasn't quite enough to pull this off the way it should/could have been pulled off.


I agree there, but to be honest that is a hallmark of David Lynch, and if i am to be completely honest I never really liked David Lynch that much, I think he is massively overrated. But I have no doubts that many film lovers will tell me I am wrong, and give good reasons why. Mulholland Drive I liked, I did actually love the first season of Twin Peaks but thought it dragged on far too long. But all in all odball and over the top seems to run in the Lynch family.

But hey, you like this and that is good. There is plenty of stuff I like that many don't. That is the beauty of art. And if I am to be brutally honest I would rather people watch this than shite like Hostel and similar garbage.

Logged
e-mail Reply: 19 - 25
Dreamscale
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 8:08pm Report to Moderator
Guest User



I am not a Lynch fan in any way, either.

BUT...calling Hostel shite and garbage, is utterly wrong.  It spawned an entire sub genre...it raked in the bucks...it produced a successful sequel...and...AND...it was actually critically acclaimed, meaning it was praised critically by many Pro critics and the like.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 20 - 25
James McClung
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 8:22pm Report to Moderator
Of The Ancients



Location
Washington, D.C.
Posts
3293
Posts Per Day
0.48
Pretty sure Hostel Part II was not successful. That's about the time Roth got his knickers in a twist and started mouthing off about piracy. Dude sounds like an utter toolbag on the subject. Consequently, I hated the sequel but enjoyed the first one to the point that I actually defend it to this day.

As for Surveillance, I'll have to check it out again. I definitely enjoyed it the first time around but don't think the big twist is all that pimpworthy. Protagonists turned bad guys is old hat. The twist with the little girl is a different story. Didn't wow me but it was different and changed things up for sure.


Logged
Private Message Reply: 21 - 25
Dreamscale
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 8:57pm Report to Moderator
Guest User



Hostel II did suffer from early leaks and piracy.  It was produced for $10 Million...did about $36 Million WW, and that was considered a failure, based on the original.  DVD sales and rentals were big also.

It was far from a failure...it was a success, financially.

I actually thought it was very well done, and I love it.  One of my personal faves...top 50 easily.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 22 - 25
Heretic
Posted: November 10th, 2010, 11:32pm Report to Moderator
January Project Group



Location
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Posts
2023
Posts Per Day
0.28
I thought Surveillance was really well made, and the first half was an absolute joy for me -- so excellently quirky!  Suspected the main twist pretty early on.  The twist with the little girl was interesting but it didn't really have much of a point.  Actually the movie didn't have much of a point -- I think Murphy's dead on, calling it out on style over substance.  Not sure what Lynch is trying to tell us.

Still, she's such a good writer/director that the film managed to be engaging for me despite what I perceived to be a complete lack of purpose.  Performances were very strong and the characters were certainly memorable.  

Just didn't see the point.
Logged Offline
Site Private Message Reply: 23 - 25
Dreamscale
Posted: November 11th, 2010, 12:00am Report to Moderator
Guest User



Heretic, why does there have to be some "point"?  You just nailed the point in your words...enjoyment.  That's the point.

I have no clue why everyone seems to think a movie has to be so many things.  It only has to be one thing, in reality...enjoyable.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 24 - 25
Baltis.
Posted: November 11th, 2010, 12:10am Report to Moderator
Guest User



I completely disagree with hating a twist because it turns you against the protagonist(s).  In fact, instances such as these make me love that aspect more.  How many times in life did you like someone, and then got to know them and hated them?  How many times did someone you think was on the level turn out to be crooked?  I found the turn in this movie to be along those lines.

Two people, each with their own quarks as we all have, having fun with small town's law enforcement and taking care of business while they do it.  I loved it.  While not as versed as her father... Yet, she shows she's got the salt.  You can see her influences in this movie and it's a standout piece for me.
Logged
e-mail Reply: 25 - 25
 Pages: « 1, 2 : All
Recommend Print

Locked Board Board Index    Movie, Television and DVD Reviews  [ previous | next ] Switch to:
Was Portal Recent Posts Home Help Calendar Search Register Login

Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post polls
You may not post attachments
HTML is on
Blah Code is on
Smilies are on


Powered by E-Blah Platinum 9.71B © 2001-2006