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I have noticed several reviews popping up lately for movies on Netflix Instant Play.

I'll bet alot of us have it, or will have it soon.  It is very addicting.

This is (generally) the "bargain bin" stuff -- a lot of which I have never even heard of, making it difficult to decide what to select.

I thought I would make a home for the gems in there -- discoveries you have unearthed and can share with the rest of us.  I will start with two:

Altered:  This is a silly alien flick, with a vague sort of "Evil Dead" vibe at times.  A lot of it is over the top, in a funny way.  The characters do dumb things, but I found them likable just the same.  What really struck me, however, is that the script is pretty much confined to a single location.  That alone makes it worth a look for us.

Tokyo Gore Police:  McClung originally recommended this on a thread somewhere, and I loved it.  So did Ross, my 16-year-old.  This is not a serious film.  It is fire-hoses of blood and insane mutations and even fake ads that are laugh-out-loud funny.  If you are in the mood for a nutty Asian film, it does not get much better than this.

Summer is coming up.  Any more diamonds in the Netflix slush pile?


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OK, I can definitely chime in here, as I watch a shitload of movies.

Just to follow up on what Bert mentioned...

Altered - pretty decent to good.  A bigger budget sure would have helped.

Tokyo Gore Police - Couldn't get through the first 15 minutes.  Insanely over the top gore and everything else.  Not my cup of tea.

The Canyon - Actually really liked it for what it was.  Well done, decent acting, pretty intense if you let yourself in.

Wicked Lake - As it is, it's pretty fucking bad, but there's something about it that says it could have been so much better.  I've read that there's a new Director's cut coming out.  It's silly, goofy, and over the top, but damn, those 4 babes are hot...

Necrosis - Pretty decent overall.  Could have/should have been better, but for some reason, I definitely did not hate it.

Red Sands - Again, pretty decent.  Could have been better, but it worked for the most part for me.

Dead of Winter - Actually really liked this one.  I thought the acting was way above the norm for DTV's.  Based on true life events, that have been altered and beefed up for entertainment.  Well put together with a real feel to it.

Big Bad Wolf - Pretty terrible in most ways, but for some reason, I see a much better movie (or maybe script) that is lurking inside.  Don't expect much and you will get some laughs and entertainment.

The Hunt - Zero budget, terrible acting, poorly done, but a decent story in here...buried way deep inside.  Can't recommend it, but it could have been so much better.

Frontiers - Awesome foreign flick!  Loved it in so many ways.  Brutal and well done overall.

The Lost - Although definitely not for everyone, I really appreciated this.  Based on a Jack Ketchum novel, it's a different look into the mind of a madman.  Slow at times, and weird as well, overall, it is gripping...and brutal, and worked for me for sure.  Check it out!

Deadgirl - Not great by any means, but interesting.  Definitely not for everyone again.

Shallow Ground - Again, low budget, but pretty well done overall, and a compelling mystery that worked for me.

Nine Dead - Pretty decent.  A little slow and derivative, but it actually worked for the most part.

The Stefather 2009 - I was actually fairly impressed with this.  Not a bad remake, IMO.

Train - I actually loved this one!  Very, very impressed with it.  Quite shocking and brutal and well done, IMO.  Surprised it wasn't released in the theaters...it could have done something, I think.

Seed - Uwe Boll like you've never seen him before.  Very, very brutal and shocking at times.  A little over the top and lots of problems, but I enjoyed it and will remember it for sure.

While she was Out - Kim Basinger in a Canadian horror DTV.  Far from good in every way, but interesting to see what Kim has been driven to star in.

Grace - Absolutely hated it!  Terrible!  Boring, ugly, stupid, WEAK!  Watch at your own risk!

Walled In - Dull, kind of lame, but OK overall.  I fell asleep but my girlfriend said she liked it better than Memento, believe it or not.

That's a start for you guys and gals!


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Black Cadillac - Randy Quaid in a small budget thriller about a group of college students chased by a stranger in a black cadillac.

Hatchet - Brilliant black horror about a killer stalking tourists in the Bayou.

Dead and Breakfast - Not so obscure, but loved this take on zombies. It has a musical number!

Wendigo - movie about the creature/spirit is more thriller than straight out horror. Spooky and pretty well done for a low-budget movie.

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of any right now.


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I was severely underwhelmed by Hatchet, but I've discussed that one to death in other threads.  The acting, setup, sets, everything screamed low, low budget, and from all the positive word of mouth, I was hoping for so much more.

Tried to watch Dead and Breakfast last night.  After about 15 minutes, I said "Fuck this piece of shit".  I literally hated it!  Supposed to be funny, I guess?  Sure wasn't, IMO.

I saw Wendigo awhile back...didn't like it, but definitely didn't hate it either.

I'll give Black Cadillac a shot.

Pia, Cat's Eye is really, really old.  A good movie for sure.  Lots of old decent-good movies available, but I've seen them all.  I always am trying to see everything I haven't seen...mostly fairly new stuff.
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Tokyo Gore Police is the greatest movie I wouldn't have known about without Netflix. I watched it around 2 in the morning on a drunken whim and bought it the next day. So much fun and still pretty underground even in the horror community. It's also the second goriest film of all time in terms of sheer gallons. Peter Jackson still holds #1 which seems appropriate as TGP feels like Asia's answer to Dead Alive. I'll second it despite me being the one to recommend it in the first place. This one is for the freaks!

I'll recommend The Machine Girl as people who see it either flock to Tokyo Gore Police afterward or the other way around. The special FX guy is the director of TGP so similarities abound. The Machine Girl does eschew a lot of TGP's pseudo-commentary and in-jokes about Japanese culture though in favor of more intentionally comical gags and Power Rangers-esque action scenes. I preferred TGP but thought The Machine Girl was fun as well. Both are sick and bloody as hell.

There's a ton of excellent Asian films on Instant Play. Takashi Miike and Park Chanwook have quite a few on there. I'd recommend people watch all of them. The Host is on there as well. There's quite a few bad ones as well. A lot of them Japanese gore flicks. But you can always expect them to be bloody and absolutely bizarre.

If anyone likes crazy movies about drugs, Altered States takes the cake. Likewise, if anyone likes offbeat comedies featuring aberrant sexual acts, I'd check out Bobcat Goldthwait's Sleeping Dogs Lie and World's Greatest Dad. Pretty well done films despite how bizarre the plots are.


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Thanks, Jeff.  My summer just got more interesting -- horror-wise.


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There's a ton of excellent Asian films on Instant Play. Takashi Miike and Park Chanwook have quite a few on there. I'd recommend people watch all of them.


Yeah, James -- reminded me of a couple more.  Jeff, see these if you haven't.

Ichi the Killer: Not obscure (to some of us maybe), but definitely a film to see if you haven't already.  This film is about style, with an unforgettable character anchoring the film.  One of those films that -- even if you end up not liking it much -- you will be glad you saw it once.

Three...Extremes: Three stories from three Asian directors.  Some of it is stomach-churning stuff, and they are all quite different.  The last one may be a bit arty for you, Jeff -- but I suspect the first two will be right up your alley.


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Bargain bin? I watched Lost seasons 1-5 on instant watch on my Wii. It has a ton of classic films and a lot of stuff that is on IMDB's top 250 list (dipped into Fargo the other night). If you want to watch something, you're always bound to find something in there you'll like.


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Ichi was too long though it was very strange.

The Host South Korean -  A sea monster runs rampant in Seoul's River Han. What's particularly interesting about this movie is that it is an allegory about the American interference in South Korea.
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Quoted from George Willson
Bargain bin?



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What do you mean bargain bin?



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This is (generally) the "bargain bin" stuff


I said "generally", guys.  There is some good stuff in there, sure.

But when you go browsing for new horror flicks, it is reminiscent of walking the aisle at Blockbuster and only recognizing a third of the titles on boxes that may look good -- but you just never know.

That's all I am going for here.  "Good-looking" boxes that actually deliver the goods.


[Edit:  And it looks like our friends at The Asylum are at it again -- with "Paranormal Entity" -- a blatant knockoff of "Paranormal Activity".  Make sure not to queue that one up by accident haha.]


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I was severely underwhelmed by Hatchet, but I've discussed that one to death in other threads.  The acting, setup, sets, everything screamed low, low budget, and from all the positive word of mouth, I was hoping for so much more.

Tried to watch Dead and Breakfast last night.  After about 15 minutes, I said "Fuck this piece of shit".  I literally hated it!  Supposed to be funny, I guess?  Sure wasn't, IMO.

I saw Wendigo awhile back...didn't like it, but definitely didn't hate it either.

I'll give Black Cadillac a shot.



Oh well, different strokes for different folks I guess!! Let me know what you thought of Black Cadillac. Again, I picked these based on budget and premise.

Really hated D&B, eh? Even with David and Ever Carradine???? haha. It's defintely a love it or hate it movie. The script was written over a weekend, if I remember correctly. If you stick with it, there is some major gore in the 2nd/3rd Act.

Try these:

The Cottage. Another low budget British horror movie that swings in a direction that most don't see coming.

Isolation - An Irish low budget horror movie. Nice cinematography and creepy feeling.



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I would never queue up Asylum movies on accident. They get queued on purpose. That company is my inspiration. I figure if they can run a movie studio for as long as they have on what they make, I can do it on something better.


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I've found a lot of parallels between Netflix Instant Watch, and what's available through my cable's On Demand section.  Here's a mixed bag of stuff.

Bronson - Nicolas Winding Refn's vivid and unflinching biopic delves into the life of Britain's most notorious prisoner, Charlie Bronson (Tom Hardy) -- who's been jailed for nearly 35 years -- and attempts to dissect the real man behind the deranged persona. While Bronson's primary ambition was to be famous, he became a celebrity of sorts as a criminal who seized myriad opportunities to demonstrate extreme and terrorizing savagery.

World's Greatest Dad - After his son (Daryl Sabara) dies in an awkward freak accident, high school poetry teacher Lance (Robin Williams) ghostwrites a suicide note to spare the family embarrassment. But when the note becomes an unexpected hit, Lance sees a chance to resurrect his writing career. In a bid for literary fame, Lance writes his son's journal and passes it off as his own. Writer-director Bob Goldthwait's comedy debuted at the 2009 Sundance Film Festival.

Moon - As he nears the end of a lonely three-year stint on the moon base Sarang, astronaut Sam Bell (Sam Rockwell) begins to hear and see strange things. It's not long before Sam suspects that his employer -- the conglomerate LUNAR -- has other plans for him. Featuring Kevin Spacey as the voice of a robot, this sci-fi thriller also stars Matt Berry and Kaya Scodelario. The film was an official selection at the Sundance Film Festival.

These next two are geared toward kids, but are still very entertaining.  I can't recommend Up enough.

Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs - Inventor Flint Lockwood creates a machine that makes clouds rain food, enabling the down-and-out citizens of Chewandswallow to feed themselves. But when the falling food reaches gargantuan proportions, Flint must scramble to avert disaster. Can he regain control of the machine and put an end to the wild weather before the town is destroyed? Bill Hader and Anna Faris lend their vocal talents to this Golden Globe-nominated animated adventure.

Up - After a lifetime of dreaming of traveling the world, 78-year-old homebody Carl (voiced by Ed Asner) flies away on an unbelievable adventure with Russell, an 8-year-old Wilderness Explorer (Jordan Nagai), unexpectedly in tow. Together, the unlikely pair embarks on a thrilling odyssey full of jungle beasts and rough terrain. Other voices in the Oscar-winning film include the renowned Christopher Plummer and Pixar stalwart John Ratzenberger.


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Zombie classic Fido is On Demand...In addition to the original Planet of the Apes, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid, On the Waterfront, Rebel Without a Cause, Stagecoach...Still need Citizen Kane, Casablanca and the 1932 Frankenstien to round out my selection of personal favorites...

In addition, suggest "It might get Loud" with Jimmy Page, The Edge and Jack White...very cool.


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No idea what's available but if you get a chance to see ANY Chanwook Park I suggest you don't hesitate for a second.  He's one of the most important filmmakers working today in my opinion.  Especially note his last two, Thirst and I'm A Cyborg (But That's OK).
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With the wife and kids out of town for a bit, I have a few additions to what I have been watching on the ol' Netflix Instant Queue:

The Butcher:  Queue this one up, Jeff.  A strong torture-porn where the twist is that the killers and victims have cameras strapped to their heads, and the film is pieced together from that footage.  Korean-made and unflinching -- and once or twice this film digs way deeper than it has a right to, asking some powerful questions of the victims -- and the viewer. 7/10

The Stoning of Soraya M:  This one is movie broccoli -- watch it because it is good for you.  Amazing acting, even with subtitles.  As you watch, you will want to strangle some people in this film.  You cannot believe this stuff really happens, but it is filmed by Iranians in Iran, who I guess would know better than anyone.  This one will turn you into Screenrider -- outraged, and wanting to do something -- but I have no idea what.  Perhaps it is enough to watch and make yourself aware.  Really worth a look, but I cannot give this one a perfect score, as it pissed me off too much.  9/10

Train:  Jeff dug this one, and I can see why.  It is for Hostel fans, and while competently put-together, I found it to be kind of by-the-numbers.  I was also disappointed to see that my beloved Thora Birch is not aging as gracefully as I had hoped, as evidenced here by the fact that she plays a wrestler (wtf?) and never once pops the ol' top. Sigh.  5/10

Rampage:  Haha -- another piece of trash from Uwe Boll -- this one about a guy who dons some Kevlar, arms himself to the teeth, and marches around town shooting people.  I am sure Uwe thinks this is "Falling Down", but it is just cr*p, though fun to watch for fans of Uwe's continued downward spiral. Maybe "fans" is too strong a word, but you know what I mean.  4/10

Surrogates:  A surprise appearance by a big-budget movie.  Bruce Willis is likable as ever.  Matrix-inspired, maybe, but different enough to stand on its own.  Good story, good effects, not bad at all.  7/10

Triangle:  Looks like a standard-issue slasher, but has a great little WTF twist about a third of the way through, and then tells a really good story with only a few holes that you should just ignore.  Liked this a lot more than I expected.  8/10

Amelie: For some reason I have blown off watching this French film for years, but I watched it for the heck of it, and really enjoyed it, despite the very liberal use of voice-over.  This one was acclaimed (at the time) for good reason.  Feel-good stuff without too much sap.  Watch it with a girl and you might get lucky. 8/10


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The Stoning of Soraya M:  This one is movie broccoli -- watch it because it is good for you.  Amazing acting, even with subtitles.  As you watch, you will want to strangle some people in this film.  You cannot believe this stuff really happens, but it is filmed by Iranians in Iran, who I guess would know better than anyone.  This one will turn you into Screenrider -- outraged, and wanting to do something -- but I have no idea what.  Perhaps it is enough to watch and make yourself aware.  Really worth a look, but I cannot give this one a perfect score, as it pissed me off too much.  9/10


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Amelie: For some reason I have blown off watching this French film for years, but I watched it for the heck of it, and really enjoyed it, despite the very liberal use of voice-over.  This one was acclaimed (at the time) for good reason.  Feel-good stuff without too much sap.  Watch it with a girl and you might get lucky. 8/10


Amelie is great.  A feel-good film is how I'd describe it.  Recommends all round.


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I worked in a theatre when Stoning of Soraya M was released, and there never failed to be weeping audience members heading out the doors afterwards.  A film that certainly has the potential to make people question the state of their world -- important viewing.
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Good job, Bert!  I was wondering what happened to this thread.

The Butcher is in my que.  We lost power here last week due to the crazy heat, and I just not got Netflix back up and running.

Yeah, I agree with you on Train .  I really like the premise and was surprised how good the movie looked, but it could have been so much better, so easily.  Still surprised how it flew completely under the radar.

Rampage has been in my que for awhile now.  I actually hear decent things about it, so it'll be up soon.

My girlfriend and I watched Surrogates awhile ago.  It was in my que for Blu-Ray, but when it jumped to streaming, we watched it immediately, as we had wanted to see it at the theater awhile back.  It was OK, but again, could have been so much better.  For me, the problem was believability.  There are plot holes you could drive a horse and buggy through, and those are completely plot based, which ruins things for me.  I thought Bruce did a good job though, and Radha Mitchell looked great in that blond wig.

We also watched Triangle a couple months ago.  She said it was pretty decent but it put me to sleep, so I really can't comment other than I was very, very bored with the first 30 minutes.  Do I need to give it another shot?

Here are a few others I've watched...

Black Ops - BORING!  Didn't get all the way through it.

Copycat - Not the Sigorney Weaver flick - TERRIBLE!  Just pathetic!

Wolf Moon - Far from any good, but there's something about it that I liked...or almost liked.  Pretty cheesy though.

Ring Around the Rosie - Had potential, but came off very, very lame!  So dull and boring.  Funny to watch Tom Sizemore in this thing...and even Gina Phillips.  WEAK!!!

Run, Bitch Run! - HaHa...watched this right after I spit on your Grave.  Very much alike but this one's much, much better.  Lots of Kudos have to go out here, but most will hate it.  There is talent on display here for sure.  It's brutal, hilarious, good and bad acting, wild, wild ride!  Total 70's exploitation done a few years ago.

Blood Hook - Pure comedy, and terrible, terrible film.  Hilarious acting, plot, everything.  Just a hoot.  Make sure you're drinking heavily for this one and invite some friends over for a laugh.

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The Vanishing is a really well done thriller currently up on Instant Play.

Rampage is one hour of a guy walking around and shooting people.  Not worth your time.
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You mean the 93 version with Jeff Bridges and Sandra Bullock?  Saw it at the theater actually and a few times since.  Good flick!  It's a remake from a foreign film though, isn't it?
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We also watched Triangle a couple months ago.  She said it was pretty decent but it put me to sleep...Do I need to give it another shot?


Well, you've already said that plot holes can interfere with your enjoyment of a film -- and this one has them.  It is a really unique story if you can get past that.


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Run, Bitch Run!


That movie is for real -- and available?  How did I miss that?  Yeah, that is getting an add.


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Blood Hook


Boy, does that one look like sh*t!  Not even a real poster for it -- just some picture that looks like some dude drew it in high school.  I will save that one for a rainy day.


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A film that certainly has the potential to make people question the state of their world -- important viewing.


Yeah -- that one is a really strong recommend for those who are looking to this thread for something besides trashy horror.  The most affecting film I have seen in quite a while.



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You've heard of Run Bitch Run?, Bert?  It has a very big QT vibe going for it...and believe it or not, much of it works.

It's a classic case of taking almost everything too far, though. There are some intense scenes, some shocking scenes, some over the top hilarious scenes, but in the end, I actually thought there was talent here that we just may see somewhere ,more mainstream in the future.
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You've heard of Run Bitch Run?, Bert?  


I saw a trailer a few months back, but thought it was a joke.

I am happy to learn it is for real.

Also, I am reminded now that on Facebook, Shelton mentioned a film called "Black Dynamite" -- that one also shows great promise.


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I saw a trailer a few months back, but thought it was a joke.

I am happy to learn it is for real.

Also, I am reminded now that on Facebook, Shelton mentioned a film called "Black Dynamite" -- that one also shows great promise.


Black Dynamite was lots of fun.  It's along the same lines of I'm Gonna Git You Sucka, but has a little more of a serious tone to it.

I watched Run, Bitch, Run! a few months back, and ended up being pretty disappointed in it, despite my love for Grindhouse and the films that attempt to duplicate it.

Also, for those familiar with the trailer that won the Grindhouse competition, Hobo with a Shotgun has been filmed as a feature version.  Rutger Hauer stars as the Hobo.



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You mean the 93 version with Jeff Bridges and Sandra Bullock?  Saw it at the theater actually and a few times since.  Good flick!  It's a remake from a foreign film though, isn't it?


I'm talking about the original.  I'm interested in seeing the remake now, but a little reluctant because I thought this was so nicely done.
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Just saw a very good movie today on Netflix streaming.

It's called Restraint.  It's a 2008 Aussie flick.  Great acting all the way around, good story, well shot, good sets...just an all around good flick, IMO.

Check it out, and don't give up on it.
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Just found "Tales from the Script" on streaming Netflix.  Is this anything to do with the book, Babz has been pushing?  It sure looks like it.

Haven't watched it yet, but it has great reviews.  I'll check it out...
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Not sure if any of you checked today, but they add a bunch of new Watch It Now movies.

A bonus among these were some documentaries with Joseph Campbell. I am sure there are a few on this board who have read his body of work and it you haven't you really should.

The documentaries just listed were:
The Hero's Journey
Explore the life and work of author and mythologist Joseph Campbell with this compelling documentary. Classroom clips and interviews are woven together to present Campbell's theories. Discussing his own life's quest, Campbell explores how life can be explained through a mythic model with each person the hero of his or her life's journey.

Sukhavati
Travel with mythology expert Joseph Campbell as he explores shared iconic imagery that marks the human experience and influences our ability to dream and find our spiritual center. Campbell suggests that all religions share the same path to enlightenment, but it's up to us to make the actual journey.

Mythos I and II
Actress Susan Sarandon hosts this collection of insightful lectures from mythology and religion expert Joseph Campbell, exploring the history, psychological underpinnings and social significance of myths across cultures.

They also added a bunch of classics in this new line up.

Happy viewing...
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apropos of John's posted documentary ala~ Joseph Campbell, I highly recommend The Man from Earth.  

An impromptu goodbye party for Professor John Oldman becomes a mysterious interrogation after the retiring scholar reveals to his colleagues he is an immortal who has walked the earth for 14,000 years.


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apropos of John's posted documentary ala~ Joseph Campbell, I highly recommend The Man from Earth.  

An impromptu goodbye party for Professor John Oldman becomes a mysterious interrogation after the retiring scholar reveals to his colleagues he is an immortal who has walked the earth for 14,000 years.


I saw that a few years ago. Great flick... might watch it again real soon.


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The Burrowers was just released to streaming on 9/1.

It's a very impressive Western/creature feature flick.

made for $7 Million, it's a beautifully shot and filmed movie, looking like it cost a Hell of alot more.  Strong performances form everyone, shockingly great FX work, and even a good story to boot.

If you like Westerns and/or creature feature horror, chances are very good you'll be impressed with this DTV release from 2008.

Check it out while its available.  Great flick!
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I'm a big fan of The Burrowers.  Great genre mash-up.  Also, if you haven't seen it, the documentary The Cruise is a beautiful doc, and one of the funnier characters on film.  Of course available Watch Instantly.
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I liked The Burrowers as well. I am usually down for any movie that mixes genres, especially if one of them is horror.

I know everyone has probably seen Ravenous, but has any one seen a movie called Dead Birds. It may not be the best movie, but it certainly had a creep factor to it that gave me a chill.


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Love Ravenous.  I was actually 1 of the 9 or 10 people who showed up in a theater to see it.  Robert Carlyle is awesome in it!  Great flick.

I didn't like Dead Birds. I actually tried to watch it on numerous occasions before finally getting through it, but I was not impressed. I know it gets alot of good word of mouth but it didn't work for me at all.
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Man of the Century

I saw it last year via dvd, but just noticed that it's now available via instant watch.  It's something different, and fairly short to boot.

"Ace reporter Johnny Twennies (Gibson Frazier) is stuck in the 1920s -- and blissfully unaware that he's out of place in modern-day Manhattan -- in this rollicking indie comedy that gently pokes fun at black-and-white film classics. His girlfriend is fed up because he hasn't kissed her, his boss wants him canned, and the mob wants him rubbed out because he knows too much. Can Johnny get the scoop and the girl while staying alive?"


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Thanks to Bert, I'm bringing this thread back to life.

Just got Netflix again last week and have already seen a bunch of flicks I'll comment on for ya'll.

I'm not going to just throw out recommends, but I'll let you know my thoughts on whatever I watch...good, bad, terrible, or indifferent.

First of all, I'm going to devote this entire post to a flick I saw last week, that rocked my little world, and made me see the light that low budget foreign film making is not only alive but can be so impressive.

The flick I'm talking about is a little survival French horror hybrid called "Vertige".  The US title is "High Lane".  I watched the dubbed version, and it's actually dubbed quite well.

My recommendation is to go into this completely blind, and I'm not going to throw out any spoilers, whatsoever.

The cinematography is amazing!  Seriously, shockingly beautifully shot film.  So many shots and scenes that just rock, and take your breath away.

This is an intense ride in every way.  A group of young 20 somethings go on an extreme mountain hiking day trip, and I was just mesmerized at the cinematography and stunt work.  If you have any vertigo, get ready to be amazed and scared off your arse.  This makes Cliffhanger look like Romper Room.

The acting is not great, by any means.  The dialogue pretty poor, but again, since it's dubbed, maybe something was lost in translation.  The plot itself is nothing to write home about, either.

But the execution is damn solid, and makes for a truly moving experience that I was shocked and impressed with.

Some will get back here and say it's shit.  They'll say, "why the fuck did they have to go there?"  But, in the end, I doubt anyone will say they weren't impressed with what this turned out to be, based on exactly what the film makers decided to make.

Basically, I'm saying, if you view this for what it is, you will be impressed.  For me, it was so good, I saved it and will watch again...and again...and...well, we'll see.

5 Stars!!!!

Enjoy!!!
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I know everyone has probably seen Ravenous...






Love the soundtrack for Ravenous...so wonderfully strange.  The thought of the film always brings a smile to my face.
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Cold Prey - Ultra low budget Norwegian Horror movie is God awful.  Terribly dubbed, horrendously acted, with laugh out loud dialogue, almost no plot and story, few redeeming qualities, if any.

Terrible!!!
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Grizzly Park - Ultra low budget BS with some of the most cliched and poorly drawn characters I've ever encountered, and that's saying alot.  Terrible acting, other than Ranger Bob, who is hilarious.  No plot, no story, no nothing.

Could be amusing if you're really, REALLY wasted, but otherwise, stay away...far away.
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Offspring - Another super low budget crapfest.  Adapted from Jack Ketchum's fairly popular novels, this thing is a mess.  So poorly done it's just comical.  Too bad, cause it should have been so much better.

There a re a few scenes that have some power, but 98% of this thing is just pathetic.
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Good job, Bert!  I was wondering what happened to this thread.

The Butcher is in my que.


Did you ever get around to this one, Jeff?  I was very curious to know what you thought of this Korean import.


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Hmmm...no...I don't think I did.  I'll check it out...

Thanks.

Check out High Lane...it ROCKS!!!!!!!
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Frayed

OK, here's one that I definitely recommend.  I'm not going to say exactly why I recommend it, but it's a movie that all screenwriters should watch.

It's low budget, and in many ways, plays out like the original Halloween, especially early on.

There are many issues with it.  Acting isn't great.  It's slow in places.  It's dumb in places.  It's cliche in most places.  There are several twists, some done better than others...some that work, some that don't.

If nothing else, the intro scene(s) are very well done, culminating in one of the bloodiest onscreen beatings I can recall, and the FX work on this kill, is downright amazing.

I'm gonna leave it at that, and if anyone chimes in, I'll discuss why I feel it's a good movie to watch for aspiring horror writers.
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The Horde - in the foreign films... b-movie zombie flick about some corrupt cops who go into a run down building to get revenge on some thugs who killed one of their own.. and while they're attacking eachother a zombie apocalypse happens... - their building gets attacked... and the cops and criminals have to band together to get out alive

keep in mind its a b movie... the acting is marginal but tons of action and violence.  

you get the feeling if this film had been written by a real writer, had real actors, and a real director.. i could have been pretty good.
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Just saw Bronson after much hype. Awesome. Almost exactly the flick the trailer made it out to be. Suddenly Tom Hardy as Bane makes a lot more sense. Props for getting full blown naked and getting the shit kicked out of him. Very hardcore flick.

Also saw Repo Man a little while ago. Who knew Emelio Estevez wasn't such a sissy not to be able to play a punk who "takes cars from dildos who don't pay their bills." Badass flick.

Also finally saw Escape from New York and They Live. <3 Carpenter.

Jeff, I added that French flick you mentioned as well. I watch a movie a day. I'll be watching that one tomorrow. It better not be the wrong one.


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James,  1 thing I can guarantee you is that you'll love the cinematography...especially the first 30 minutes.  There are numerous thrills and chills in the climbing and it's pretty amazingly done.

I know what you're going to say about the 2nd half, but we'll see.

I've had Bronson in my que for awhile...I'll check it out.

Tonight is Unstoppable for me...wanted to see it at the theater but didn't make it.  Blu Ray arrived today...
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Tonight is Unstoppable for me...wanted to see it at the theater but didn't make it.  Blu Ray arrived today...


not bad, not great. entertaining.

i want to see more of this Chris Pine kid.

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Suddenly Tom Hardy as Bane makes a lot more sense.


*gasp* dare you question Chris Nolan!?

lol seriously though... i think the dude has proven he knows what hes doing
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I added that French flick you mentioned as well.


I have, too.  Though I hate, hate, hate dubbing.  It ruins the entire experience for me nearly 100% of the time.

Was "Tokyo Gore Police" dubbed?  I will bet that is why you did not like it.


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Tonight is Unstoppable for me...


That is not on Instant Play, Jeff.  Let's try to keep this to the on-line titles.

I notice "The Butcher" is no longer an online title, darn it.  I still give it a strong recommend for you, Jeff (and pretty much only you haha), but make sure you get the Korean one.  There are several films with the same title.


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Was just about to post I hate dubbing and then saw bert beat me to it. If anything's guaranteed to ruin a movie for you, it's dubbing. A ridiculous concept if ever there was one. Just read the bloody subtitles!


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Was "Tokyo Gore Police" dubbed?  I will bet that is why you did not like it.


I did like Tokyo Gore Police although perhaps not as much as I did the first time I saw it. In any case, I own the DVD and watch it in Japanese. The dubbing is terrible. Shameful, even compared to other bad dubbing. Enough to turn people off to the whole movie as you've suggested.


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OK, Netflix freaks, here's a really impressive one...

Shuttle - I was a little leery about this, based on the setup and first few minutes, but damn, this thing is unrelenting, quite intense at many times, and really delivers a ripping punch to the gut in the last 25 minutes or so.

The acting is pretty damn good from basically everyone, once things get going.  Both female leads do a great job.  And Tony Curran's performance is both powerful and restrained at the same time.

At times, the film has a washed out look, and since it takes place entirely at night, it doesn't look great.  But, this has a $5.5 Million budget, which is literally 50 times more than most "low budget" flicks.  I'm not sure exactly where all the money went, but everything has a very realistic feel to it, even the opening airport scene.  There is definitely attention to detail throughout, and the violence is well choreographed.

Of course, like any movie, this has its faults.  Characters do stupid things, or maybe better put, characters don't do what they should do to survive.  But having said that, let me also say that no character just gives up and dies.  Everyone puts up a great fight, again and again.  It's truly a roller coaster ride and it works.

Biggest kudos goes to the tone of the movie and script.  It's dark, it's gritty, and it's real.  If you go in blind, you're not going to have a clue how it'll play out.  Let's just say, it's not your typical Hollywood ending.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!
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Hmmm, this thread doesn't seem to be too popular, but I'll keep trying.

Harpoon: Whale Watching Massacre - This was much better than you'd assume.

First time for me watching a film from Iceland.  Although it has many, many problems, cliches, and downright stupid shit going on, overall, it held my interest and I was somewhat impressed, even.

It's downright nasty in it's depiction of violence.  And there's alot of it...pretty well done even for a low budget flick.

Although the plot is very basic and cliche, it goes places you'd never imagine and there are several turns that completely threw me for a loop or 2.

It's funny, cause there are numerous languages going on here - American, Icelandic, French, and Chinese.  No dubbing.  Everything but the American is subtitled.

Finally, I think I can say that this flick has 1 of the most interestingly bizarre characters I've ever come across.  She steals the show and her actions are way beyond bizarre.  And, she proves to be literally the only survivor, so God bless her. I guess she did what she had to to make it out alive...and RICH!

Not a  terrible way to spend an hour and a half and you can say you've seen an Icelandic picture, as well.
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OK, Netflix freaks, here's a really impressive one...

Shuttle - I was a little leery about this, based on the setup and first few minutes, but damn, this thing is unrelenting, quite intense at many times, and really delivers a ripping punch to the gut in the last 25 minutes or so.

The acting is pretty damn good from basically everyone, once things get going.  Both female leads do a great job.  And Tony Curran's performance is both powerful and restrained at the same time.

At times, the film has a washed out look, and since it takes place entirely at night, it doesn't look great.  But, this has a $5.5 Million budget, which is literally 50 times more than most "low budget" flicks.  I'm not sure exactly where all the money went, but everything has a very realistic feel to it, even the opening airport scene.  There is definitely attention to detail throughout, and the violence is well choreographed.

Of course, like any movie, this has its faults.  Characters do stupid things, or maybe better put, characters don't do what they should do to survive.  But having said that, let me also say that no character just gives up and dies.  Everyone puts up a great fight, again and again.  It's truly a roller coaster ride and it works.

Biggest kudos goes to the tone of the movie and script.  It's dark, it's gritty, and it's real.  If you go in blind, you're not going to have a clue how it'll play out.  Let's just say, it's not your typical Hollywood ending.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!


I second this recommendation one of the most underrated horror movies to come out in awhile! The ending stuck with me for quite awhile.


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Good to hear, Kev!  I totally agree.

The writer/director, Edward Anderson, wrote the 2007 Michael Caine/Demi Moore flick, Flawless, which had a $20 Million budget.  Not bad, although I haven't seen the movie.

Nice chump change, anyway you look at it.

C'mon, you guys, check this movie out!!!!!!!!
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Yall should check out The Kingdom (Ridget).

The only word I can pin it under is: Bizarre.
Made by Lars Von Trier. Nuff said.

It actually isn't as bizarre and not (as) pretentious as his other work.

It's a series, but the amazing thing is it balances, horror, surreal, and comedy brilliantly.

It's in Danish with English subtitles and the the show is something special. It came up a few years before E.R. and is a convincing hospital drama, mixed with a strange ghost story.

But what really shines is the characters and the comedic situations that arise. IT's done on what I think is early digital,( either way it looks cheap) giving it this Office and PArks and Recreation feel (a much darker feel). But it's amazing that it did all this a decade before the states picked up on on this style of television.

If you're trying to check out something different go with the Kingdom. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

And when the show wants to be scary/disturbing it's F***** up!
I'm really surprised the U.S. hasn't tried remaking this show. Though they'd fail miserably trying to recapture the magic that is in THE KINGDOM.
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I'm really surprised the U.S. hasn't tried remaking this show. Though they'd fail miserably trying to recapture the magic that is in THE KINGDOM.


They did remake the show. Stephen King of all people was the creator. It was retitled Kingdom Hospital. Not sure if it's any good.

The Kingdom, I actually was disappointed by, surprisingly. It seemed to be focused on the comedy more than anything which I had a hard time getting into. I kept seeing really out there clips supposedly from upcoming shows (one involving Udo Kier as a weird man-baby thing) but said shows never had any of that stuff for some reason.

I'll have to revisit it at some point. I never saw the horror elements of the show developed that far. Honestly though, I think I like von Trier's post-Breaking The Waves films better. Europa was okay and I only liked the last five minutes of Epidemic but nothing out of that early era has really impressed me so far.


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I kept seeing really out there clips supposedly from upcoming shows (one involving Udo Kier as a weird man-baby thing) but said shows never had any of that stuff for some reason.



The man-baby is in the final frame of the first Season (the first season is only four episodes). And is in the second season as well. I am currently watching season 2, so he may disappear, and my opinion of the show may change.

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OK, Netflix freaks, here's a really impressive one...

Shuttle - I was a little leery about this, based on the setup and first few minutes, but damn, this thing is unrelenting, quite intense at many times, and really delivers a ripping punch to the gut in the last 25 minutes or so.

The acting is pretty damn good from basically everyone, once things get going.  Both female leads do a great job.  And Tony Curran's performance is both powerful and restrained at the same time.

At times, the film has a washed out look, and since it takes place entirely at night, it doesn't look great.  But, this has a $5.5 Million budget, which is literally 50 times more than most "low budget" flicks.  I'm not sure exactly where all the money went, but everything has a very realistic feel to it, even the opening airport scene.  There is definitely attention to detail throughout, and the violence is well choreographed.

Of course, like any movie, this has its faults.  Characters do stupid things, or maybe better put, characters don't do what they should do to survive.  But having said that, let me also say that no character just gives up and dies.  Everyone puts up a great fight, again and again.  It's truly a roller coaster ride and it works.

Biggest kudos goes to the tone of the movie and script.  It's dark, it's gritty, and it's real.  If you go in blind, you're not going to have a clue how it'll play out.  Let's just say, it's not your typical Hollywood ending.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!


I checked this one out tonight, per your recommendation.
It certainly didn't embarrass itself. Decent acting.
One of the better peril in a bottle flicks.
I wonder who pocketed most of that $5 million budget.
I dug the ending, but it was a bit of a slog at 106 minutes.
I've seen a lot worse lately.

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just watched "The Way of the Gun" on Netflix on demand

bad ass movie. I must have missed that one in the theaters. what a pleasent surprise.
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Okay, I took some of the suggestions here.  

SPOILERS

Watched High Lane and, despite the excellent rock climbing cinematography in the first half, it just became a mishmash of backwood cannibal cliches in the second half.  Really, they covered all the bases with the bear traps, the people tied up in the basement and of course the girl just assuming the dude was dead at the end.  Good beginning, but it brought nothing new to the genre at all.

Shuttle was much better, mostly because of its solid premise and superior lead actor.  Caught me by surprise with a couple of the twists.  Writing for the most part was pretty tight, except for the part when she sign languages at the store.  Why give a note to the cashier that says watch the security cam when you can just hand her a note that says "call the damn cops."  And of course, at the end, the dumb girl assumes the bad guy is dead.  These horror movie chicks just never learn!  But overall, I think Tony Curran's performance made shuttle worth it.
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Good job watching a few of these, guys.

Yeah, I was really impressed with Shuttle.  The end was a big surprise and it totally worked for me.  I was not at all surprised when the weird guy already on the shuttle turned out to be a baddie...totally saw that coming.

For High Lane, I do agree and even pointed out that the 2nd half of the film is cliche and nothing great, but IMO, the first half is so strong and so well shot, the overall movie experience is very positive.  I usually get comfy when watching a movie at home, but for this one, I was literally sitting up on the edge of a sofa, the climbing was so precarious.  And the suspension bridge scenes?  Damn!!  Very well done.
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Blood Creek - Originally released under the title Town Creek

Neither title makes alot of sense, IMO.

Pretty decent little flick here, although most reviews are bad.

Joel Schumacher directed this in 2009.  Can't seem to find much info re: budget or release, but it seems to have only been released in the UK.

Production values are good. FX are good.  Acting is what it is for this kind of flick, but no one embarrasses themselves, IMO.

It's an interesting but convoluted story, but the point is that there definitely is a story and I found it to be a rather unique take on a number of different horror staples and genres.

Of course, it does have a number of flaws you have to overlook, as well as a bunch of cliches.

There is a very well done and unique scene, involving a zombie horse (yes, you read that correctly) that is definitely what I'll remember from this flick.

Not a bad way to spend an hour and a half if you like horror.  Check it out.
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Another dive into the bargain bin:

I Saw the Devil:  Nobody does revenge like those boys from Korea.  This is a strong entry that never lags, with good cast, acting, and direction.  Good gore when you get it, and it all has a point to drive the story forward. A satisfactory conclusion that raises questions.  Pretty much top-notch all around, and a solid recommend.  Not dubbed (thank God), so you will need to read subtitles.

Mary and Max:  A weird little claymation thing I had never heard of, but really engaging with a unique look that I enjoyed and top-notch voice work.  This is surprisingly dark.  Not for the kiddies, but a solid recommend if you are in the mood for it.  Surprised how much I dug this one, actually.

High Lane:  Jeff's recommend is pretty solid, and the early climbing scenes are indeed beautiful and harrowing at the same time.  Bold stunt work, or it sure looked that way to me.  The dubbing is not cringe-inducing, but by the second half the dubbing doesn't really matter, as all they are really saying is "Run!" or "Look out!" or stuff like that.  Personally, I did not find the crazy guy at the top of the mountain (c'mon, is that really a spoiler haha) to be all that imposing or formidable, but I did enjoy this film for what it was supposed to be.  A solid recommend.

Vanishing on 7th Street:  I looked this one up because the trailer reminded me quite a bit of one of my own stories.  Don't you hate that?  Anyway, this one is not so much shadows as it is a creeping sort of darkness that sucks people in and leaves their clothes behind in a Rapture sort of way.  It starts off pretty chilling, actually, but then gets kind of repetitive with running to find some light, and what is even more annoying is it starts to bend or invent its own rules about what the darkness can and cannot do, so it just gets sort of confusing, too.  It never answers any questions, which will annoy some viewers.  A half-recommend, as it looks pretty good for its budget, but is ultimately not all that satisfying.

House of 9:  People trapped in a house and the lone survivor gets big money.  Yeah, pretty trite set-up, but I looked because of Dennis Hopper.  I am sure they were excited when they signed him on for this schlock, but he really brings nothing to the role or the film, with bad acting all around.  This film aims for the "psychological horror" target, so not much gore, and they miss the mark anyways, so it is also kind of dull.  Particularly dull were loooong montages where the director thinks he has to use the entire song.  At one point he uses two whole songs, back-to-back, and the songs are not even that good.  Talk about filler.  What was this guy thinking?  There is actually a very cool twist in the last five seconds (if you make it that far), but it is not nearly enough to save this film.  Cannot recommend this blah effort.

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Don't have netflix, but see if you can find a film called Trollhunter.

It is, exactly as the name suggests, about people hunting for trolls.

Heard some good things about it.

BTW Bert...is House of 9 the one where they have to kill each other for a bag of cash? I enjoyed that one tbh. Totally on point about the song montage though...felt as though the Director was told the film had to be longer, so they just stuck in a whole take of a song to pass the time. Very weird.

Avoid a film called Fertile Ground. Boring, cliche horror despite good prod. value and acting.
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Trollhunter is in my que, although it's not streaming.  I've heard good things about it as well.

I was not impressed with House of 9 at all.  Cliche and filled with really bad acting.

I'll look for Fertile Ground.
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Trollhunter is in my que, although it's not streaming.  I've heard good things about it as well.

I was not impressed with House of 9 at all.  Cliche and filled with really bad acting.

I'll look for Fertile Ground.


No, avoid Fertlie Ground. Nothing happens and what does happen eventually you've seen a million times. And when I say nothing happens, I don't mean in an arty, European way, I mean nothing happens at all.

A film called Confessions was good. Has anyone mentioned that?

Exam, Brit flick, not bad.

Reasonable Aussie slaher/creature flick called Primal. Nothing new, but a good DTV.

There's a good Ruskie film called Paradox Soldiers...time travelling, action sci-fi. A bit confusing because it's a sequel and the original never made it out to any of our shores, so you have to work out what's going on as you go along, but it's a good film despite that. Probably be very good if you can somehow track down the original.

Someone Behind You(AKA VOICES in US/UK). Asian Horror. Opinions vary on this, but I liked it.

The Doll Master: Like Puppet Master for Japs...I liked this one.

Loft: Japenese Horror..slow burning, but great IMO.

I could recommend a few Asian Horrors tbh...big fan.
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Oh, be interested to hear what people thought of a film called The Signal.

I liked it.

Basically, they had three Directors tell a continuing story with the same characters.

It was a decent attempt at an apocalyptic type scenario, but it's also somethign that interested me from a writing/filmmaking POV because it seems like something we could do on here.
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I despised The Signal!!!  Horrible!!!!

I had heard good things but I sure didn't see anything I even remotely liked.
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I despised The Signal!!!  Horrible!!!!

I had heard good things but I sure didn't see anything I even remotely liked.


Little surprised really, I thought it was surprisingly inventive for that kind of thing.

Did you know that it was three Directors doing three different stories wrapped into one?

I wonder if that would have made a difference, because although they make a whole cohesive story, the three stories are very different in tone and theme.

That aside, what do you think of the general idea...three writers/directors creating something?
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Yes, I was aware of it.

I don't personally like the idea. I feel it's better to have 1 writer and 1 director, so the story and execution is what that 1 writer,a dn or director saw and wanted to achieve.
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Aww, I really liked The Signal!  I thought it was original and neat, and the second story in particular was a blast.
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Agreed. Definitely a cut above the norm.

Incidentally currently watching a low budget US horror called The Final.

Worth a watch IMO.
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Quoted from Rick
...is House of 9 the one where they have to kill each other for a bag of cash? I enjoyed that one tbh. Totally on point about the song montage though.


Yep, that's the one.  Maybe the guy has a background in music videos?


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...see if you can find a film called Trollhunter.


Had never heard of it, but now I find lots of enthusiastic reviews for this one.  And it looks like the type of low-budget fare that ends up on Instant Play, too.  Have queued it up and looking forward to it, so thanks.


Quoted from Grandma Bear
Just started watching House Of 9. I'm 10 minutes in and i think I'll end it there.


Did you even read the post?  That is the one I said NOT to watch haha.

And another good recommend that I just remembered:


IP Man: A very well-done martial arts film that actually carries a compelling story with it.  My wife was very skeptical sitting down to this one -- but she actually made it through and said she liked it -- if that tells you anything.  Martial arts films are not for everyone, but if you are in the mood for one, this is amongst the best in recent years, and some reviewers even say the past decade or so.  There is a sequel, but I have not seen it.




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Took Rick up on his suggestion for Primal last night.

I have mixed feelings here, but for the most part, my feelings are negative.

So many glaring ridiculous things going on, many downright laughable.  As I say very often, this once again suffers from a really piss poor premise and setup, which kills a very cool and well done intro scene.

This is pretty low budget and it shows quite often, but the big problem is that the film maker, Josh Reed, chose to show his hand over and over, when he wasn't holding a winning hand, in terms of FX or just cheesy stuff like the "primals" fighting, growling, or just staring for long moments.  Also, the finale is loaded with what I'm pretty sure was stop motion photography effects, that looked pretty weak.

But, in the same breath, I'll say that the movie did go places most don't, including the finale which I sure didn't see coming.  It would have been very easy to end this exactly where all the other such movies end, and it's cool this one went a little further "out there".

Could have/should have been much better if they simply would have concocted a better, more believable setup, written the characters and their actions to be more realistic, and cut out the vast majority of the Primals completely onscreen for long moments.  I think anytime you show your creatures over and over...in broad daylight even, you run the risk of losing the scares, especially when you've got an extremely limited budget for effects and even more especially     when your creatures look downright goofy.

Not horrible by any means, but definitely not good, either.
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Black Death - 2010

Here's one I've been wanting to see for awhile and was thrilled when I found it streaming.

This is a hybrid 1300's Period/Crusades Piece and horror/witchcraft, starring Sean Bean.

It was released in an extremely limited run, and quite frankly, I don't know why.  I can't find anything about its budget, but I thought everything looked pretty damn good.

It's a dark and very serious look at Europe during the deadly bubonic plague.  I found it to be quite scary at times, just based on thew way it was written and shot.  Great, creepy performances by Carice von Houten and Tim McInnerny as the leaders of the mysterious marsh village.

There are some very cool twists at the end which I sure didn't see coming and for me, made this a very strong and rewarding movie.  It doesn't pull any punches at all, is played for reals all the way through, and delivers a strong message on top of everything else.

Some may find it rather slow, but for me, it's a definite recommend!!!
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In case anyone hadn't noticed I Saw the Devil is up. Definitely check this one out. its violent, gritty, and a shitload of fun. it's a korean revenge flick and although its not as revolutionary as some others have thought, its a great way to spend 2 hours.

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Net Games - 2003

While this is laughably bad in so many ways, looks shockingly cheap with horrendously fake sets, overall, in a very strange way, it kinda works...for what it is.

It stars C Thomas Howell and a few other recognizable faces and names.  The acting is atrocious and laughable throughout, but every now and then, the actors and actresses actually do a great job with a scene or some lines.  I mean, it literally goes from as bad as you can imagine top surprisingly well done.  Must be the script and the fact that most of the "talent" actually does have some talent...or did at 1 time or another.

Cheesy plot, ridiculous leaps of faith, and completely impossible goings on throughout, but enough red herrings to keep things mildly entertaining.  Lots of sex, nudity, and titillation, that, at times, actually works, while at others (and most) it comes off as downright comical.

Since it's from 2003, it comes across as very dated, especially in its theme and core, but the funny thing is, I don't think sex chat sites were brand new then, even...were they?

Anyway, it's interesting to see just how far C Thomas Howell has fallen.  The guy can still act, but it's quite sad here, most of the time.

If you're up for a late night "mystery thriller" with lots of nudity, and unintentional hilarity, give it a shot, and don't give up when you think it's terrible, cause it does get better as it goes along.
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Took Rick up on his suggestion for Primal last night.

I have mixed feelings here, but for the most part, my feelings are negative.

So many glaring ridiculous things going on, many downright laughable.  As I say very often, this once again suffers from a really piss poor premise and setup, which kills a very cool and well done intro scene.

This is pretty low budget and it shows quite often, but the big problem is that the film maker, Josh Reed, chose to show his hand over and over, when he wasn't holding a winning hand, in terms of FX or just cheesy stuff like the "primals" fighting, growling, or just staring for long moments.  Also, the finale is loaded with what I'm pretty sure was stop motion photography effects, that looked pretty weak.

But, in the same breath, I'll say that the movie did go places most don't, including the finale which I sure didn't see coming.  It would have been very easy to end this exactly where all the other such movies end, and it's cool this one went a little further "out there".

Could have/should have been much better if they simply would have concocted a better, more believable setup, written the characters and their actions to be more realistic, and cut out the vast majority of the Primals completely onscreen for long moments.  I think anytime you show your creatures over and over...in broad daylight even, you run the risk of losing the scares, especially when you've got an extremely limited budget for effects and even more especially     when your creatures look downright goofy.

Not horrible by any means, but definitely not good, either.


Fair comments, I think. It was a mixed bag.

That said, I thought they got 80% of it right. Unfortunately the 20% was pretty noticeable. There's a couple of laughable moments:

EXTREME SPOILERS AHEAD

EXTREME SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

Mel's attacks and the kangaroo in particular and that slug thing at the end slamming into the heroine's vagina!

I enjoyed it though overall...it was almost there for me. Liked the idea of the primals..thought it was a nice twist on the modern 28 days later type scenario.

Think they could have been used a bit better, and a bit more tension built, but for the evident budget I think they did a fair job.

It was well-paced, had some good lines in it as well. Good use of the C word, in particular.

I definitely think it's worth a watch.
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  I liked the roo attack!

The Slug thing ramming her "vagina" was pitiful in that she had shorts on...crazy!  Made no sense.  It should have stripped those things off her if they really wanted to go over the top, like they appeared to.

I don't know, Rick...I'm very surprised you enjoyed this, but seem to trash so many better horror movies.  I'm very confused...
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Which horror movies have I trashed?

Horror is my favourite genre.

I didn't like your favourite one, Hostel, but I generally like horror.

I think the vagina smash was its failed attempt to get inside her, but because it was a dumb, primal slug it didn't understand the fact she was wearing pants. When it realised it had its tentacles try to take them off..which gave her a chance to escape!

Silly, but makes sense in a way.
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I don't know exactly what you've trashed, Rick, but it seems like the vast majority of movies I either bring up or praise...not that that's a bad thing though...

Please don't tell me you liked The Rite...please...
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The Rite....fantastic film IMO. Slow burning, but deep with great performances. Particularly from Hopkins who gives his best performance in a long time.

The best exorcism film since the Exorcist.






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You had me very scared there for a moment, Rick...
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Trolhunters definitely worth a watch.

Both impressive and amusing at times. Outstays its welcome a bit in the middle, but it's realtively easy to forgive that.

Quite a joyful little creation really.
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I'll second Bert's recommend for Ip Man.  Just watched it and was quite impressed.  The story is actually based on the man who taught Bruce Lee.  While its not really too interested in historical accuracy, the fight scenes are very cool and the characters are compelling.
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Just caught a Korean flick called The Chaser. No, it's not a revenge movie but a pretty damn good thriller with some brutal fight scenes, interesting twists and turns and a surprisingly fast pace. For two hours, it really flew by. Honestly have yet to see a single bad Korean film of any kind.


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I think someone mentioned Black Water - 2007, earlier.

Let me be very clear...THIS MOVIE ROCKS!!!!!

What a great surprise to see a little $700,000 Aussie flick totally kick ass.  Not as good as Rogue, but some 35 times cheaper, so major Kudos has to go out.

Performances are all great from the 3 main Protags, especially Maeve Dermody, who I see is Sam Worthington's honey.  Just very convincing, genuine performances all around.

Crock FX are also great, although we really don't see a whole lot of the croc.  But, that's one reason this really worked for me.  I can see where some will say it's slow and dull and not much happens, but it's intense and the setup works, the characters work, and I was fearing for their lives the moment things went bad.

Highly recommended!!!!!!

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Some quick takes, browsing back through my instant-viewing history:

Monsters:  There was a lot of hype surrounding this one, and they did accomplish quite a bit with a small budget, but I was mostly underwhelmed.  Good, but not great.

Let the Right One In:  Love this one.  Quiet, but powerful, with lots of different levels to it.  I thought this one was really unique and special and just great. (and I am talking the original here, not the Americanized remake)

Donnie Darko:  Have loved this one for years.  Do yourself a favor and queue this one up if you have not seen it.  Again, very unique.  Nothing else quite like it.

Brick:  Lots of people really like this film, but I could not get past the intentionally stilted dialogue and soon became bored with the whole affair -- though I did watch it to the end and it was OK, I guess.

Thankskilling:  A killer turkey who talks like Triumph the insult comic dog.  I was amused by this one, and you probably already know whether you will like this movie or not.

Tales from the Script:  Just letting you know it is there.  See it.

Grace:  Parts were ridiculous and parts were really creepy.  A great deal of breastfeeding in this movie, and I still have not decided if I like this movie or not, actually, so tough to recommend. An interesting effort, for sure.

Troll 2:  'Nuff said.  See comments for Donnie Darko.
  
Black Christmas:  Grandaddy of slashers from 1974 that predates Halloween by about 4 years.  Not too bad, either, and a must-see for students of the genre.

Frozen:  People stuck on a ski lift leads to gruesome fun.  Pretty good, and further recommended on these boards in particular for its superdy-duper low budget.

Brush with Death:  How could I have forgotten this one??  Totally craptastic horror with very little to recommend it apart from its being penned, at least in part, by our buddy Jordan Wiebe (boy who could fly)!!  I think the director is his brother.  It is rumored to be the lowest-rated horror film on all of Netflx, so everybody see it this weekend and give it 5 stars so their programmers will all wonder WTF.


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Jordan wrote Brush with Death, and his bro directed it?  WOW...nice!

The reviews on Netflix say it's God Awful.

I didn't realize Monsters was streaming, so it's in the que now, although I've heard pretty bad things about it.
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I didn't realize Monsters was streaming, so it's in the que now, although I've heard pretty bad things about it.


I rented Monsters from Blockbuster - I did enjoy it, overall. The most impressive thing was just what they accomplished with a $500,000 budget - to make an FX-laden, on location film for that kind of money is very impressive and hopefully might have made a few of the people in the industry who just blast through tens of millions for no extra benefit think again. You won't be able to see it on Netflix, but the extras on the DVD were fascinating. No script, no permits, only a vague shooting schedule...they just wandered around, shot what they shot and trusted to the edit and the director's CG skills.

And I also thought it was a perfectly good little film. Slightly directionless, but good on atmosphere and the scene just before the end did have a real beauty. A little milestone of sorts.


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session 9 is up on instant and i keep debating whether or not i should see it. anyone else check it out?


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I've tried to get through Session 9 several times and never made it.  I've always heard good things about it, but I thought it was very dull and always have fallen asleep.
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I love Session 9. I've taken a particular fancy to it because I tend not to like films of its kind. It's character rather than plot driven, an extremely slow burn, and more of a psychological thriller than a traditional ghost story. The production value is also a little weak but the location is a real abandoned and allegedly haunted mental hospital and looks creepy for real, not in a synthetic way. Also, although there's little gore in the film, what gore there is is actually pretty sick. The things that happen, I haven't seen shown in any other film (although it's been reference in other films).

If you can get into it, it's a real gem. If you can't, repeated viewings won't help.

I'd recommend it to anyone who liked The Machinist, the director's second film. I thought Session 9 was better, personally.


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Argh...that makes sense, as I hated The Machinist!
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I thought The Mechanist was okay. The concept was a little too much of a stretch and the overall plot wasn't as interesting as Session 9. I'll give it some props for Christian Bale and because I thought it was going to suck but I tend to mention it only when I talk about Session 9.


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Session 9 is an excellent film.

Really well paced and tense. Very well put together.
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looks like I'm watching Session 9 then. tried to last night but then fell asleep by accident.

i thought the machinist was okay. if it wasnt for bale's transformation then i would have said skip it. naturally, i just hated the ending. SPOILERS it worked for fight club and only fight club. i dont know why at least one film a year tries to replicate it


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Anyway, it's interesting to see just how far C Thomas Howell has fallen.


its ironic to go back and watch The Ousides.... C Thomas Howell was the lead star in that movie  - yet is the least known/successful actor of the bunch.

and arguably the most famous name in that cast - Tom Cruise - has the smallest role.

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btw just saw Session 9 and was a bit disappointed. not a bad movie by any means but fairly forgettable. definitely a slow burn with a mediocre payoff. not a bad way to spend an afternoon, but not the best either IMO


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btw just saw Session 9 and was a bit disappointed. not a bad movie by any means but fairly forgettable. definitely a slow burn with a mediocre payoff. not a bad way to spend an afternoon, but not the best either IMO


I can see why someone would feel that way but to be fair, it was made in 2001 when the payoff wasn't such an overused plot device. Now it is and as a result, the film doesn't hold up very well. But I think the implications of the ending in the context of the film are still pretty unsettling.


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Yeah James, I'll definitely agree with that. If I saw this in 01, I'm pretty sure I'd shit my brain. I think this film also proves what a great set can bring to the film. This is probably my favorite set from any movie and it really adds a lot to the movie's tone.

I think I also have the habit of expecting too much when you say something's fucked up. even though you're always right, i expect myself to be borderline vomiting when watching a film bc i know what you've seen haha with the exception of a serbian film, i think ive seen the worst i could possibly hope to see


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Monsters

WOW!!  Very, VERY impressed with this.  Worked for me in every way.  Surprised to hear that many find it dull and unrealistic.  Love the bookend beginning and end.

How in the world did they make this for so little?  FX were extremely solid and the overall film had a great look.

Highly recommended!
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Saw Black Water yesterday.  Didn't like it as much as Jeff, but still a recommend from me.  I think the solid acting and tight direction is what saved this one.  As premises go, this couldn't get any simpler.  A young couple and the girl's sister go on a fishing trip in the northern territory of Australia.  Well, they jump in this tiny little boat as they venture into an area known for twenty foot monster crocs and...you can kinda guess the rest.  Based on true events from 2003 where the same thing actually happened to a couple teenage girls who were stuck up a tree as a croc circled and waited for them.

One thing that helped immeasurably was that the crocs used in this were real.  The part where the Croc just surfaces in front of the girls...that's a real drugged 14 foot croc that the crew is handling beneath the water!  Couldn't believe it when I read that.

I finally saw Black Christmas a couple months ago and was absolutely astounded at how influential this movie was and still is.  I had to double check the release date on this.  

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And here I thought "When A Stranger Calls" came up with that twist of the maniac killer calling from inside the house.  And I thought "Halloween" came up with that  killer's viewpoint camera work.  Nope, wrong on both counts.  This flick invented entire tropes that we just take for granted in horror movies nowadays.  I just sat there amazed at what I was seeing.  And to think this is from the same director who did "A Christmas Story." Wow.
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I wasn't very impressed with the original Black Christmas, but agree with Ryan that it definitely was an early predecessor of many horror staples.

The remake from a few years ago was just terrible, though.  So ridiculous, and so much back story with the Antag just didn't work.
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I finally saw Black Christmas a couple months ago and was absolutely astounded at how influential this movie was and still is...And I thought "Halloween" came up with that  killer's viewpoint camera work.


"Came up with that?"  Oh, my, no.  Here is an instant-play I recommend for those feeling REALLY studious.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: From 1919, THIS is the film that actually "invented" stuff. The twisty, tilted sets are still a bit mind-blowing, even today -- way ahead of their time -- and Tim Burton undoubtedly picked this film's pockets on numerous occasions. And to my knowledge, this is the film where we first see the killer's POV as he creeps up on a sleeping victim.

A hugely influential film that anyone calling themselves an "educated" horror fan really needs to see.  Check it out.


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Monsters

WOW!!  Very, VERY impressed with this.  Worked for me in every way.  Surprised to hear that many find it dull and unrealistic.  Love the bookend beginning and end.

How in the world did they make this for so little?  FX were extremely solid and the overall film had a great look.

Highly recommended!


Decent show, wasn't it?!
I liked it myself, especially for what it was and how it was produced.

Per your rare recommendation, I watched SHUTTLE last night.
Nice show.
I'm surprised it's box office was as non-existent as it was.
I guess when Magnolia Pictures is the only suitor on your doorstep you pretty much know where you rate.
(Waaaaaay behind LionsGate! Ha!)

I didn't care for the desaturated BS that's so popular these days.
The pointless driving around irritated me almost as much as "If antag has been doing this so many times already why doesn't he have his supplies already in the crate?" sort of stuff.

Still, a very nice show, if not somewhat documentary-ish by the last forty minutes or so.




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"Came up with that?"  Oh, my, no.  Here is an instant-play I recommend for those feeling REALLY studious.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari: From 1919, THIS is the film that actually "invented" stuff. The twisty, tilted sets are still a bit mind-blowing, even today -- way ahead of their time -- and Tim Burton undoubtedly picked this film's pockets on numerous occasions. And to my knowledge, this is the film where we first see the killer's POV as he creeps up on a sleeping victim.

A hugely influential film that anyone calling themselves an "educated" horror fan really needs to see.  Check it out.


I've seen bits and pieces in film school but don't think I've seen it in its entirety. I'll have to check it out when I've got less stresses and more patience, ideally after I've finished my latest script. Might make a nice pairing with Nosferatu, which I also haven't seen in its entirety.


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The Abonimable Dr Phibes is great as well.

Also, Mr Sardonicus.

Love old horrors.
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Rick, we are in agreement!!!!!  Dr. Phibes ROCKS!  As does Dr. Phibes Rises Again and of course, Theater of Blood.

Released in 71, 72, and 73.  I actually think my Dad took me to see at least one of them at the theater, though I was a wee one at the time.  Always been into horror!
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I watched Dr. Caligari today and I must say I was impressed with the set design as well.  Extremely daring and profound.  To think this movie was made in 1919 as Europe was digging out of the wreckage and horror of WWI makes it all the more impressive.  The movie's influence, particularly on Tim Burton, is obvious.  

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But, the skewed sets also gave away the twist ending of the film.  You know immediately that what are you seeing didn't happen, but instead is the demented imaginings of a disturbed mind.  

Also, I just didn't see any evidence of this film using the first person killer's point of view, unless I somehow missed it.  Black Christmas is still the earliest film I've seen that employs this cinematic device.  Especially the accompanying heavy breathing(I know, kinda impossible to do with a silent film).  Black Christmas also had that great shot of the crazed eyeball glaring out of the hole in the wall.  I've seen that shot copied many, many times since.

BTW, has anyone seen this Korean creature feature called Chawz?  Sort of a Korean homage to Jaws, but with a monstrous wild boar tearing up the countryside.  It runs kind of long and loses steam in the third act.  But, it has this odd, quirky Korean sense of humor running throughout it and the boar effects are actually pretty good.
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Chawz is in my que...will get to it soon, but I don't have high hopes for it..but I will give it a try...
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I watched Dr. Caligari today...I just didn't see any evidence of this film using the first person killer's point of view, unless I somehow missed it.


Apologies if I am mistaken, Ryan.  It has been many years since I've seen it myself -- but I could swear there is a sleeping woman, and as "the somnambulist" creeps up upon her, we are closing in from his POV.  To the best of my recollection, anyway.

And how many movie monsters mimic the look of the somnambulist, with that pasty face and darkened eyes?  As for influencing Burton, I would say that Edward Scissorhands is pretty much a dead ringer.

Anyways, glad I convinced at least one person to check it out.

If you are the type that likes to examine the "history" of horror cinema, Caligari is a film that cannot be neglected.


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Pia...Pia...Pia...I disagree with you.

This is not a bad or shitty script.  There's nothing shitty about it.   All the characters are well established and likable.  No one dos anything stupid, in terms of being in a horrendous situation, no one thinks quite clearly, and most of us have no experience with guns.

The setup was believable.  There was major tension...and horror, and nothing stood out as being ridiculous.

Yeah, it was well executed and extremely well acted and that's always going to be a deal breaker, but IMO, there's nothing in this script that I would call BS on.
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I think that's where we're in disagreement.

As I continually say, a script does not have to reinvent the wheel. A script does not have to be anything other than effective, without mistakes and this one appears to be both, IMO.

Good characters.  Believable actions and reactions.  Good setup.  Unpredictable finale.

Voila...successful movie!  Easy!
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I'm with Pia on this one.

It was a very ho-hum film and story. Instantly forgettable.
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So Rick, you're saying you don't feel it's a good movie?  Or are you saying it's a good movie, based on a bad script, like Pia said?
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I watched it not long ago and I can barely remember what happened.

Was just completely insipid for me. Not a terrible film, but just not enough of anything. Not enough emotional drama, not enough tension, not enough action.

I can't really say whether the script was good or not, because I haven't read it, but the film didn't seem like it was particularly badly executed, it just wasn't particularly strong in any area.

The characters, the things they do...none of it really made an impact on me. Which I'm presuming came from the script.

Compared to a similar film like Open Water, it just didn't reach me.

It's one of those interesting films that critics seem to like, but audiences didn't really take to.

79% critics approval on RT compared to just 37% from audiences.


So to answer your question:

You think it's a good film with a good script.

Pia thinks's it's an OK film with a crap script.

I think it's an OK film, with (probably) an OK script.
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Pointless argument. Everyone should just watch Rogue instead. I think that flick was as good as anyone could've made with the premise of a killer croc.


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Agreed that Rogue is awesome and the cream of the crop.  Everything Mclean touches is gold, actually.
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Alligator will always be the best crocodilean film for me.

Rogue was a mixed bag for me. Too ponderous at the beginning and too downright silly by the end.

Most croc films are about the same standard. Just about OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killer_crocodile_films
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I've got Rogue coming tomorrow, so I'll give my review after that.  Most seem to like it here, though, which is always a good sign.

Alligator I haven't seen in a long, long, time, but I remember it more as a satire than a horror flick.  Written by the great John Sayles of course.  That one scene where the great white hunter guy is trying to recruit a "porter" from a bunch of black dudes in the street...that was hilarious.
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Monsters

WOW!!  Very, VERY impressed with this.  Worked for me in every way.  Surprised to hear that many find it dull and unrealistic.  Love the bookend beginning and end.

How in the world did they make this for so little?  FX were extremely solid and the overall film had a great look.

Highly recommended!


I loved the film. It's jaw-dropping what they managed to achieve with what they had. Whole thing shot on a Sony Ex 3 with just one 50MM lens.

It was pretty slow in the middle and considering they were in the middle of an infected zone, they never seemed scared in the slightest.

In that sense it was quite unrealistic...as was the way the US had built a wall to contain them, but hadn't just incinerated the whole area. In fact, pretty much nothing in the film makes a lot of sense (even to the point that they can't fly out of there...the aliens can't fly...so it makes no sense).

The flaws in logic never really bothered me though.

It's quite a unique film. I think with the title you kind of expect a tense raction/horror ride, but it's more of a love story drama than anything else.

Has to be seen.

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This might be bit obscure for Netflix, but see if you can track down a film called: Noroi (The Curse).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0930083/

It's basically a J-Horror Blair Witch, but has quite a complicated and interesting story line and the end kicks in quite nicely.

Bit sprawling and unfocussed at times and suffers from its low budget...but there's some inventive and interesting stuff in here.

Be interested in what others thought of it.

It had an impact on me and it's got that unsettling vibe where it feels like it's going to stay with you.
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I've been following this thread for awhile now. Gonna add my two cents on a few...

Frayed Thumbs down on this one. Bad acting, horrible dialogue and lackluster kills. I will second Jeff that the first ten minutes is a must see! The brutality of it is cringe-worthy. SPOILERS!!!! Kurt being the security gaurd is the first twist that you see coming the entire time. Then they hammer you with another at the end which helps the film redeem itself a bit, but its not a twist you could see coming. They just throw flashbacks at you in the end. If they could've set this up better, I would've liked it more.

Shuttle This was a pleasant surprise. Really enjoyed the pacing of it and the ending is a true eye opener. I would recommend this one also.

Monsters I enjoyed this for what its worth. I think the relationship between the two of them could've been fleshed out better as they try to make their way to the states. It was well handled for a low budget film though. I think its worth your time.

IP Man Absolutely thumbs up on this one. Trust me, this is the film Crouching Tiger wished it could've been. Fighting is well choreographed. But don't be fooled, That's not what the heart of this film is about. Its a great Hero's journey. Supposedly based on the life of the man who trained Bruce Lee. Of the four I've watched here, this is heads and shoulders above the rest. I see they made a sequel. Unfortunate, this story is complete and didn't need to go any further.

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Hey James, glad to hear you checked these out.

As for Frayed, I agree with everything you said, and I did not like it either.  The point I wanted to make and see what people felt about it, is not only the final twist, but the fact that the majority of the movie took place inside the innocent kid's head.

It was a cool idea, but these things don't sit well with an audience, at least not me.  It was ambitious to say the laest, though, and I do feel writers can benefit from seeing it.

Nice to see Shuttle getting the respect it deserves.

Keep on Netflixing!!!!
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As for Frayed, I agree with everything you said, and I did not like it either.  The point I wanted to make and see what people felt about it, is not only the final twist, but the fact that the majority of the movie took place inside the innocent kid's head.


It seemed like kind of a sell out. The whole thing was imagined. I get that he was afraid of his father and viewed him as the "Boogeyman" so to speak. One loose end was that somebody killed the security gaurds that eventually let him out. Did Kurt kill them or his father? That part wasn't imagined. It was a good attempt, it is a story that could've been very good with some rewrites. The way its layed out on film just didn't work for me, but I recognized its potential.

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The Horde - in the foreign films... b-movie zombie flick about some corrupt cops who go into a run down building to get revenge on some thugs who killed one of their own.. and while they're attacking eachother a zombie apocalypse happens... - their building gets attacked... and the cops and criminals have to band together to get out alive

keep in mind its a b movie... the acting is marginal but tons of action and violence.  

you get the feeling if this film had been written by a real writer, had real actors, and a real director.. i could have been pretty good.


Another shout for The Horde.

Pretty nice French zombie flick.

Doesn't re-invent the wheel, but zomnie fans with a couple of hours to kill will enjoy it.
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Bear - 2010

First of all, in no way am I recommending this movie.  But, I do want to draw parallels to Black Water and try to clarify what I was saying earlier about why it is a a good movie, based on a  good script, whereas Bear is a shitty movie based on a shitty script.

The 2 movies are very similar in terms of plot and story, but because of just a few simple things, this one sucks, where the other rocked.

The setup here, once again, is pathetic, stupid, and ruins things right out of the gate.  We've got the old reckless driving down an abandoned "short cut" through the woods.

We've also got 4 of the most irritating characters ever brought together.

And finally, as the movie slogs forward, we get completely ridiculous revelations from each character, that get more and more ridiculous, as we go on.  I'm talking about Soap Opera land here bad.

So, my point, once again is to understand why this movie and script is so bad, and Black Water is the exact opposite on the spectrum.  You may not like any scripts or movies based on nature horror survival, but you need to be able to see the difference between good, bad, and downright ugly.

Black Water succeeded everywhere Bear did not.
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Your conclusions seem to be based on a lot of guesswork...I can't believe you've actually read the respective scripts.



Maybe you have.
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Rick, I haven't read either script.  I watched both movies and have to assume that the setup, plot, story, characters, and their dialogue is based on the written script.

What am I missing here?

My point, which continues to be impossible to get across to anyone, is that a script/concept/whatever you want to call it, doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be "good".

When you have a solid, believable setup, likable, believable characters, who act, react, and speak like real people, you're off to a pretty damn good start, cause, obviously, the vast majority of movies don't understand this.

Now, granted, you may not "like" the movie, but at least you're not going to be laughing out loud, grunting and sighing in pain, or screaming how fucking pathetic it is, when they get these oh so simple things right.

And, IMO, when someone does that, they've written a good script and chances are in its favor that a decent to good movie will result in  the efforts.

Does that make sense?

Do you understand what it is I'm trying to say?
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Thanks for the suggestion of Session 9. I liked it.

This is a great thread, I had totally forgot about!  


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Watched Rogue and really liked it.  The director did a great job of pacing the tension, throwing in twists and upping the stakes.  Superb croc effects in this one.  That friggin thing looked real!  Far superior to Black Water on every level.  This had a much, much bigger budget, I'm sure, but I thihk story-wise Rogue had that inventive hook and kinetic energy that Black Water lacked.  Wasn't crazy about Michael Vartan, though.  That character seemed somewhat out of place to me, almost like they needed to have an American hero kill the croc so lets throw the dude from Alias in there.

But seeing Black Water and Rogue really reminds me what a masterpiece Jaws is.  It truly is the modern creature feature taken to its highest form.  When it comes down to it, the logline would just be something like "Three men hunt down a giant shark that's been terrorizing an island resort."  But through the depth of the characters, the quality of the directing and of course the music it became a classic.

I also somehow made it through Monsters.  Ugh.  This was as boring a flick as I've seen in a long time.  Aside from that opening shot, the first act is nothing but talk between two very unlikeable leads.  Ultimately, it went nowhere, IMO.  This is a case of a great premise(samples of Jupier's moon Io break up over Mexico upon return to Earth and spawn monstrous creatures), and no follow through.  I will say I was impressed with the creature effects.  Other that that, this was a snoozer.
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Rick, I haven't read either script.  I watched both movies and have to assume that the setup, plot, story, characters, and their dialogue is based on the written script.

What am I missing here?

My point, which continues to be impossible to get across to anyone, is that a script/concept/whatever you want to call it, doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be "good".

When you have a solid, believable setup, likable, believable characters, who act, react, and speak like real people, you're off to a pretty damn good start, cause, obviously, the vast majority of movies don't understand this.

Now, granted, you may not "like" the movie, but at least you're not going to be laughing out loud, grunting and sighing in pain, or screaming how fucking pathetic it is, when they get these oh so simple things right.

And, IMO, when someone does that, they've written a good script and chances are in its favor that a decent to good movie will result in  the efforts.

Does that make sense?

Do you understand what it is I'm trying to say?


The only thing you're missing is that without having read the scripts we don't know how close the films were to the original vision.

The same people wrote and directed Blackwater so you'd imagine they were close, but the Bear may have been a good script that was badly handled, for whatever reason.  One of the writers wrote one of my favourite horror films as a kid...House. Who knows?

Chances are that you're right, but in better hands it perhaps could have been a good film. My only point is that we don't know having not read the script.

As for the point about good scripts...it's purely subjective at the end of the day. You like solid, well written pieces even if they are derivative...I don't tend to.

Rogue and Blackwater both flopped at the BO and neither are hugely popular with audiences (Blackwater less so than Rogue).

I would say one of the critical reasons for their lack of success was the subject matter...ie the premise of the script.

Huge Croc=Lake Placid. It had already been done. The film had no USP. B-Movies tend to need to stand out: even if it's something ridiculously stupid like Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus.

Blackwater is almost identical to Open Water, except crocs are a lot less scary than sharks and being stuck on land is less scary than being in the middle of the sea.

One of the writer/directors of Blackwater went on to make YET another Open Water/Jaws rip off...the Reef. Some seem to like that as well, but it absolutely tanked at the BO again.

I would strongly suggest it's because it's just too damn derivative. Talk about a one trick pony! Let's make Open Water yet again, but we'll have just one big shark like Jaws instead of lots of small ones!
To me there are fundamental flaws in scripts like that...and I wouldn't have gone near the scripts as a financier to be perfectly honest. In a world of so many movies, you've got to give the audience more than that IMVHO.

I also think they are both too slow for that kind of film, Rogue especially. The slow build up workled for Mclean in Wolf Creek because he used the landscape and subverted so many horror cliches along the way...he kept raising dramatic questions. In Rogue it was just drawn out for no real reason. Blackwater lacked tension and interest for me. You could argue that they are problems with the script....but as I say, that's subjective.  

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Rick, I apologize for continually saying the same thing with different words, but for some reason, you don't seem to understadn what it is I'm saying and maybe someone else can chime in and help me.

The movie Bear had ZERO chance of being a "good" movie, based on the lame script, in which the characters were written as irritatingly as possible, with the most ridiculous, over the top, completely far fetched, stupid back stories imaginable.  Same goes for the dialogue.

Like Black Water, this was meant to be a "serious" survival nature horror piece.  It never had a chance, unlike Black Water, which at least seems to work for a number of people.

There is a HUGE difference in these scripts, be they derivative or not.  It doesn't matter.

Case in point - for some unknown reason, people tend to eat alot of Hamburger Helper casseroles.  I have to believe that they enjoy them and feel they're a good value.  In reality, however, they're not a very good value at all and they taste like crap.  You can make your own version of any of the "flavors" for the same price or less and have it taste so much better.  Same dish, only better.

Same movies, only 1 is better, and the reason why it's better is obvious...to me, at least.

As for various movies "flopping" at the Box Office, I think we need to take into consideration the story behind the films.  Rogue is a very interesting one and everyone should read about it online.  The Weinsteins pumped in some $20 Million more than the original budget called for, put together a movie that is critically hailed, and fans seem to love it as well, yet for some odd reason, barely even released it, pissing off many, many fans.

Black Water was filmed for around $700,000, and should easily make that up in DVD rentals, Netflix revenue, DVD sales, etc.  How couldn't it?
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I understand you perfectly, we just have a difference of opinion.

And, again, you haven't read the script, so it's impossible to say whether it was the writers or others who introduced the things you don't like.

But let's say for the sake of argument it was a very poor script, which I can believe.

Ultimately it's the Directors fault the film is crap. If the script was crap, he should have changed it or dispensed with it entirely.

I've not seen the film, but even judging from the very poor trailer, the story has enough to make it interesting. The car rolling scene is probably more interesing than anything in Blackwater, for instance. Lose the gun, get people alone in nature against a savage predator... I'd be confident I could turn a story about people being attacked by bears into an interesting, fast paced film.

Just think about that scene itself and how much more interesting it could have been made in more accomplished hands.

The problem is the FX are terrible, the acting is terrible, the cinematography is weak...frankly the Director looks like an outright novice. (and having quickly checked IMDB..he is).

Ultimately all we are arguing about is the fact you think Rogue and Blackwater were great and I didn't particularly. Both films were executed well enough, but left a lot to be desired as films as far as I was concerned. So it would be impossible for me to praise the scripts, because they were flawed from my point of view.

They were almost certainly better scripts than Bear (which seems like an ultra low budget movie at best), but that's not really a lot to get excited about at the end of the day...although that point is yet to be proven as we haven't seen the scripts.

They are all just derivative of past films, just made to varying degrees of quality.

If the actors that worked on Bear got hold of the Rogue script, and you exchanged Cinematographers and FX teams, I doubt you'd think much of the Rogue script.

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OK< Rick, one last time, and I'll give up then.

You keep saying you understand me but the words you write after that statement lead me to believe that you don't.

The point I've been trying to make from a few pages back has to do with things that are very easy to control in a script, that a writer is in charge of, at least initially.

Someone is in charge of greenlighting a picture, based on a script that has been written.  Someone likes what they see in that script and puts together a team to make the picture.

MOST movies do not get the very simple basics correct, and I have to believe that's based on poor writing to start.

I'm talking about setup and characters, and I'm also talking about those character's actions, reactions, and dialogue.  I'm using the low budget horror industry as my template, and actually, the 2 movies, Black Water and Bear.

Now, you know, when you read critic's reviews of films, they often talk about the writer and the script, when they bring up things that are stupid, don't make sense, etc.

That's all I'm saying here and my point is that the vast majority of professional writers, as well as the vast amount of people in charge of greenlighting projects, so not understand this.  Period.

It has nothing to do with a film being derivative.  It has nothing to do whether you or0 I like it.  It has everything to do with giving a movie every chance you can to make it be a quality picture.

This is why the horror genre has such a bad name...cause the simple facets of screenwriting aren't being handled properly..not even remotely properly.

The premise in Black Water was solid.  It was believable.  The characters were solid.  They were believable.  They acted like human beings and even spoke like people. They did not make stupid "movie" decisions.  They were not to blame for their predicament.  And they fought hard to survive and take care of each other.

None of that can be said for the other movie in question here, Bear.

OK< I'm done.  Sorry for all the rambling.  I've got a UFC card to watch shortly!!!

Take care, man!
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I do understand you, but you keep ignoring what I say: )

You are blaming the script in the same way that critics do. For instance Armored got savaged by critics and they all mentioned how the script was the problem.

After reading the script, it turned out it wasn't....they completely changed it for the film and it made no sense.

Even with the best of intentions this can happen...you try and change a couple of things you aren't keen on, then that affects the turning point later, so you have to change that, that effects something else...in the end you change the whole thing, or you don't and all of a sudden there are major plot holes that never used to exist.

So many things can go wrong whilst shooting, in the edit...things that were good on page don't work because you haven't got the budget to do it properly.

When it comes to dialogue and reactions..a lot of that can be down to bad acting. Go on youtube and look at classic scenes from cinema redone by amateurs. The same great lines sound like farcical nonsense in lesser hands.

You keep saying you have to blame the scripts for problems in the films, but we have no evidence of that because we haven't read the script.

You're just assuming which is my whole point, essentially.

From the business side of it, Companies may not greenlight movies based on the script...many Producers and financiers won't even read it. They want to know what it's market is, why you think it will sell etc etc. In the Hollywood system movies get greenlit without a script even existing!

I went to a fundraiser for a UK horror called Splintered. They hired out a suite in an expensive hotel, did a big pitch to all the wealthy people showing the Cinematographer's showreel, potential returns on horror etc. They raised the $1M or so they were looking for...no-one who gave money read the script. What does a dentist know about scriptwriting? He might just have expendable cash, fancy playing the Film Producer, or just want tax relief on his money.
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I'm sorry...I don't mean to ignore what you're saying.

Let's break it down to the smallest components and go from there, without bringing in any real life stories, movies, examples, or anythign else.  OK?

We have $5 Million all ready to make a movie.  It doesn't matter where it came from or from who.

We have 2 scripts written about the exact same subject.  They have the exact same # of characters, the same antag, the same setting an require the exact same budget.

Script A has a believable setup, believable characters who act and react believably, and say things that come across as believable.

Script B has a poorly thought out, cliched setup, ridiculous, cardboard, cliched characters who do not act and react remotely believably, and they say things that come across as laughable, even though it's supposed to be a serious movie.

Which one of these scripts will give this project the best chance of becoming a good movie?

The answer is shockingly obvious, right?  This is my point, Rick.  I don't care who's writing the script, changing the script, editing the movie, or catering the shoot.

The point is you can do an awful lot to make the movie potentially better by writing a solid script, based on the above mentioned aspects.  Period.

Is that more clear now, or the same thing you've thought I've been driving at all along?
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We just have a difference of opinion on how believable characters and stories come about when they are transferred to film, I suppose.

What you are saying seems obvious to you and there's certainly some or even a lot of truth to it, but I believe there is an awful lot more to it than the script.

Good casting and directing will make reactions believable, good casting can turn the mediocre lines into good, believable lines...and the converse is true mediocre or even good lines can be turned into laughable ones by poor actors and Directors who don't know what they are doing.

I know you said to ignore examples, but in this Bear one, I think we can demonstrate that the script wasn't wholly to blame.

There are strong action beats in the story, so the structure looks fairly solid. You've got the first encounter with the bear, then the momentary lull to lead people into a flase sense of security...then the "Oh Shit" moment when they realise there's another, bigger, stronger bear coming for them.

A better director would have made a better film as far as I'm concerned. There's a lot of comments on IMDb about how you even see the boom op. and numerous production lights from behind trees. It sounds as though he didn't have a clue what he was doing.

On the plus side the bear looks a reasonable actor...certainly better than the humans they got.

Let me ask you this:

In your opinion, if we sat together with the script the exact script they had to work with, do you think we could have made it into a better film?

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And another point: we should stop getting into these bloody theoretical debates. We could write two decent survival horros in the time it takes us to argue back and two.

Next time we feel the urge, we should just go to the collobration thread and make one up of our own.
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Rick, I'll address your last question to me.

In your opinion, if we sat together with the script the exact script they had to work with, do you think we could have made it into a better film?

Rick, I'm not a film maker, so I don't see how the question makes any sense for me.  I don't know what the budget was, I don't know what the length of the shoot was, the limitations they had, etc.

Do I think I could write a better script involving 4 people trapped in a car with a killer bear terrorizing them?  Of course, I do.  In fact, I know I could.  It doesn't matter though, as it's not the point here.

I bet the vast majority of writers think they could write a better script and the vast majority of film makers think they could make a better movie.  The real question is why did these 2 hack writers get paid to write this drivel, and why did no talent director get paid to make this movie?

Maybe the better question is why does this kind of thing happen all the fucking time in the movie business?

And, BTW, I don't feel like we're arguing...at least I'm not arguing.  I'm trying to make a very simple point, but for some odd reason, you won't acknowledge it...even in theory, which I don't understand.

Just finished my new script, Bear II, which starts up right as the original Bear ends.  It's a real white knuckle special.  
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The question is meant to show that I believe if we had been given that exact script, we could have turned it into something better...and that's the Director's responsibility at the end of the day...to make sure the story is good.

A Director among many other things should have an extremely strong grasp on story, otherwise how the hell can he make a cohesive film .

I'm just saying that I don't think it's the script's fault, so much as the Directors and that the script at least had an interesting premise with natural conflict. So it had some merit, even if it wasn't great.

As for why they got the money...they live in LA and probably pitch for money every single day with different projects. One of them has produced and directed 23 films. He makes low budget genre stuff geared towards a particular market.

As someone once said...if you are not getting two rejections a day...you're not working hard enough.

When was the last time you pitched something? I've never pitched anything in my life.
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
As someone once said...if you are not getting two rejections a day...you're not working hard enough.

OMG.
I love the harsh truth to it!

If PTBarnum brings his freak show & circus to a mid-sized town and only a hundred people show up - he isn't working hard enough.

Makes sense to me.




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Rick, I've never had the opportunity to pitch anything.

I guess I may start arguing now, as I disagree with something you keep saying.

You continually say the Director is responsible for the script and you seem to be saying that he has complete control over making any changes he wants.

So, let's take another theoretical example.

We've got a $25 Million budgeted movie, in which a an A-Lister writer's script has been purchased for $750,000, and the writer has also been hired to be involved in all aspects of the process from Pre to Post Production.

Are you telling me that IYO, the Director has the ability to completely change what happens in the script, as well as the dialogue?

Now, I don't know the answer, but I'd imagine that the decision would come down to whoever is putting up the $25 Million if there are any disagreements on set.

The writer was hired for a reason.  His script was chosen for a reason.  The script matters and is a fundamental element of the finished movie product.
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OK, Rick, one last time, and I'll give up then.


I knew that was a lie at the time, actually.


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The point I've been trying to make from a few pages back..


For real -- and now it has been a few more pages.

This thread is for Netflix instant-play recommendations, guys.  It is starting to get out of hand here.


Hey, it's my tiny, little IMDb!
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Depends who is directing it, I suppose.

Like the way The Sheriff of Nottingham script that everyone loved got turned into Robin Hood by Ridley Scott.

On the other hand, we saw earlier on this thread I think about the Puppetmasters....the studio made the Director go back to the old script.

In that latter instance, you've pretty much doomed the film IMO because you can't have a Director filming something he doesn't like and expect it to be very good. Would have been better hiring a Director who got the script in the first place if you just wanted someone to shoot it faithfully.

Going back to Armored..that was the subject of a bidding war...went for $1M or so...the Director still changed it massivley (for the worse in that instance) and that was a script all the studioes loved and they rushed into production.

Who is an A-lister writer anyway? You can probably count them on two fingers.

On the artful writers forum Jim Turman, Derek Haas and numerous other pros will tell you how much their scripts got changed..from Cliffhanger, to Fast and Furious etc.

I downloaded Silent Hill by Rogery Avery the other day...it's nothing like the film. He gets paid probably in the hundreds of thousands and they still dispense with it.

Usually the Director will come on board and work on the script in consultation with the Producers...and maybe other parties (eg Marvel in the superhero films) and the studio will sign off any changes.

They even have multiple versions of scripts on the go, and in some instances end up picking bits out of each (which happened in the first hulk movie).

There's no set way though. By all accounts Clint Eastwood selects scripts he likes and makes no changes whatsoever...even if the writer himself thinks he knows how to improve it.
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Was wondering when we'd get shut down!

Sorry!
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to go back on topic, Ils (they) is now on instant. i thought it was alright, but i was expecting a much bigger twist at the end (based on reviewer's comments). some critics were saying how the last 20 minutes contained the best twist since the 6th sense, so i went in with high expectations. then again i guess thats not fair to the film. regardless, it was nice to see a film create suspense without gore, especially for a french horror. however, martyrs and inside and even frontiers was much better than this. they is pretty bare boned. C+ in my opinion but not anything higher


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I Saw The Devil Just saw this was on netflix download last night and decided to give it a look. This is a well made Korean thriller. It starts out a bit slow for me, but once the game is afoot, it takes off. A Korean special agent tracks down his wife's murderer and instead of killing him, he tortures him and then lets him go several times. The great thing about this film is that The antagonist is far more resourceful then our protag gives him credit for. Again, The villain outshines the hero on screen here.

I guess you could call this a film about revenge going bad. A good guy taking things too far and it blows up in his face so to speak. The thing i liked best about the antag was that no matter how much pain he endured whenever our hero showed up, he never feared the man. He was bent on showing him he fucked with the wrong guy. That you can't simply change the mind of a madman.

Its a bit long at about 2hrs 20 minutes. Some of the dramatic scenes are drawn out too much for me. There is one kick-ass scene where the antag gets in a cab with a couple of thugs and ends up knifing the hell out of both of them.

Again, if you like a good villain, I think this film is worth your while. I think there is a thread for it, but since its on netflix now, I plopped my review here...

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Saw Ip Man 2 and while it was still entertaining, the story just had nowhere near the gravity that the first one had.  This flick also had one of the more cartoonish bad guys I've seen in awhile.  

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Ip Man has arrived in Hong Kong and wishes to open a school.  The local masters insist that he pays his monthly fees, which go toward keeping the British police off their backs.  Of course, Ip resists.  The movie does kind of an antag switch in the middle of the story, with Ip looking to avenge the death of the local master that was trying to extort him.

So, the bad guy is this English boxer who makes Ivan Drago look like Gandhi.  Some of the fight scenes in this are so over the top they're borderline hilarious.  One of the things I really liked about the the first movie was that they always tried to keep the story grounded in the brutal reality of the Japanese occupation of China.  There are no such constraints here.  

The period detail, just like the first film, is superb.  It really evokes Hong Kong of the 1950's.  Overall, a fun film, and Donnie Yen is awesome again as Yip Man, Bruce Lee's original teacher.  But once again, even though they seem to be trying to pass this off as a biographical piece, I suspect hardly anything in this story actually happened to the real Yip.
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Shark Attack 3 - Megalodon - 2002

No, this isn't a good movie.  In fact, it may be up there with the very, very worst of them, but it's definitely one of those so bad it's actually entertaining.

As I was watching, at first I wasn't sure if it was even meant to be taken seriously, and I'm still not 100% sure, but it's so completely ridiculous and over the top, it almost has to be seen to be believed.

There are countless hilariously bad scenes and things that make zero sense.  I could go on and on, but there is one scene, and 1 line in particular that is absolutely unbelievably hilarious.  I was actually falling alseep, and this little ditty hit me, and I was wide awake and laughing my ass off.  In checking info out for this gem, I found numerous posts on Google, talking about this very classic line.

Out of the blue, and for literally no reason (as there is no back story or sexual history between the 2 characters), the main male lead says to the main female lead, and I quote...

"What do you say you let me take you home and eat your pussy?"



Apparently, this line was ad libbed when the director told the actor to say anything he could think of to get a rise out of the costar.

And from there, we go immediately to a sex scene with them.

I don't think anything more needs to be said.  See it with friends who are drinking or smoking heavily.  You'll have fun and wait for the look on their faces when that now infamous line is spoken.
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Rubber is instant now. Not sure if anyone's checked it out, but it's definitely worth seeing. It's a little smug and things get a little slow when the tire isnt exploding heads, yet it's incredibly bizarre and has that wtf factor. The best movie about a serial killer tire that you'll ever see guaranteed. It knows what it is and makes several critiques about movie audiences, believability, and what happens to characters after the viewer is no longer watching them. This is where the smug factor comes in. To me, all the "explanations" weren't needed. It was almost too spoon fed. I would have rather just focused on the tire the whole time with small hints interjected here and there.


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Those netflix bastards.  They're pretty much doubling the price of mailed dvds/streaming movies.  Apparently because it "better reflects the costs of each."  Whatever the hell that means:

"We are separating unlimited DVDs by mail and unlimited streaming into two separate plans to better reflect the costs of each. Now our members have a choice: a streaming only plan, a DVD only plan, or both.

Your current $9.99 a month membership for unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs will be split into 2 distinct plans:

   Plan 1: Unlimited Streaming (no DVDs) for $7.99 a month
   Plan 2: Unlimited DVDs, 1 out at-a-time (no streaming) for $7.99 a month

Your price for getting both of these plans will be $15.98 a month ($7.99 + $7.99). You don't need to do anything to continue your memberships for both unlimited streaming and unlimited DVDs.

These prices will start for charges on or after September 1, 2011.

You can easily change or cancel your unlimited streaming plan, unlimited DVD plan, or both, by going to the Plan Change page in Your Account.

We realize you have many choices for home entertainment, and we thank you for your business. As always, if you have questions, please feel free to call us at 1-888-357-1516.

–The Netflix Team"

This came out of nowhere for me.  Did they send out a warning about this?
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I haven't heard of any changes.  I pay $19.66/month for unlimited streaming and unlimited 2 DVD's at a time in the mail.  SO I'm getting basically 6 DVD's per week plus unlimited streaming, which I feel is a sweet deal.
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Well, I think the majority of netflix users have the one dvd at a time, free streaming deal, like me.  And this doubles that price, outta nowhere.  It's not like its gonna break the bank, but I would have liked some warning, instead of them saying, hey, in two weeks, your plan doubles in price, sincerely, Netflix.  
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I just got the E-Mail now!!  Damn...mine's supposed to go up to $22.98/month now!  WTF?

Pia, how is yours cheaper than mine?
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The Badge - 2002

Here's a flick I've had in my instant que for a long time.  Finally decided to watch it, and I'm actually glad I did.

Fairly strong star power here, with Billy Bob Thornton, Patricia Arquette, William Devane, and Sela Ward, plus a few faces you'll recognize in smaller parts.

Pretty wild (and deep) story here when it all goes down, and very different from most mainstream stuff of similar content.  Lots and lots of sordid, transsexual, bisexual, sleezy life shit going down in Louisiana.

Starts out rather slow and seems to be both dull and predictable, but it changes quite drastically in the 2nd half, and for me, at least, earns its stars in the long run.

Good performances from most.  I've always had a thang for Patricia, even though her teeth are so messed up and she has some "ugly" qualities to her.  I find something about her very appealing and attractive and although she plays a character that's pretty outside anything you'd expect, she has a way about her that just makes this thing work for me.

It's definitely not great, but it's loads better than the average DTV.  Written and directed by the same guy, it just seems to me that the actual script was most likely much better than the finished product and the reason so many "good" actors signed on.  $6 Million budget, pretty good looking film overall, with some "bad" camera techniques by the director that probably doomed its theatrical release.

Definitely worth a view, though.
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The Burrowers was just released to streaming on 9/1.
It's a very impressive Western/creature feature flick.
made for $7 Million, it's a beautifully shot and filmed movie, looking like it cost a Hell of alot more.  Strong performances form everyone, shockingly great FX work, and even a good story to boot.
If you like Westerns and/or creature feature horror, chances are very good you'll be impressed with this DTV release from 2008.
Check it out while its available.  Great flick!

Watched this last night on Comcast OnDemand.
Decent enough overall product.

The story was a little hokey: these semi-human mammals are really going to dig through the ground pursuing these guys on horseback across miles and miles of variable terrain? Really? For really? And the cliche bad Union officer is going to just assume the original party was abducted by "Indians" from miles and miles away and begins a trek in THAT direction to rescue them? Really? And I don't know WTH wuzzup with the spinning sod. That's how we mechanically DRILL for stuff, but it's certainly no biological way to relocate dirt around a burrowing body.
Big fat WHATEVER! I'll just go with it.

Audio was pretty mumbly, too.

It's interesting to see how $7M can be spent, especially out in the middle of Santa Fe, New Mexico nowhere.

Compare this to SHUTTLE's $5.4M budget or especially WINTER'S BONE's $2M budget.
For the money spent on a creature feature, I liked THE DESCENT considerably more.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=creaturefeature.htm Pretty d@mn good considering the budget.

I can't say camera work, SFX or star power made or broke any one of these four.
Five bucks says it's all story which leads to distribution deals.

Spend your production bucks accordingly.

What an interesting way in which the camerawork and lighting came together, aside from that cliche color desaturation and grading which seems to be cloyingly popular lately.

It's listed as regular 35mm film and Panavision lenses at IMDB, so... interesting, still.

Amazing leap of quality from the writer/director's NYU thesis film, which amazingly was shown at Sundance, (shake my head amazing).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8iNwCJ6Ewk


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Exit Through The Gift Shop - A must-see documentary/mockumentary?/doesn't matter for anyone who works in any kind of art form, directed by legendary graffiti artist, Banksy. The less said about the content itself, the better. It seems like a good film to watch cold.

I should note that this is a major love-it-or-hate-it film with plenty of people already on both sides. If you fall in the latter category, you'll probably find it pretentious and/or offensive. The likelihood that you'll hate it sort of depends on how you feel about "art" and all which the term implies.

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Just an FYI

3 good flicks have just hit streaming...

Mark of the Devil

Dead and Buried

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3 good flicks have just hit streaming...

Mark of the Devil

Dead and Buried

Winter's Bone


All three of these are awesome and should be watched by everyone.


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Right on!  I remember seeing Dead and Buried at the theater when it came out, oh so long ago.  And mark of the Devil rings a bell, but I can't remember when I saw it.  One of them will be seen tonight.
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Mark of the Devil - 1970

Oh boy...not what I remembered when I was a kid.

This was seriously very tough to get through.  I did not like it at all.  Extremely dull, ridiculous, totally out of place music repeating itself over and over, almost like a frolicking around the park-like score.  Poor , fake FX.  Terrible acting.  Really bad dubbing.  And worst of all, very little story, with very little payoff.

And, let's be honest here.  It is a downright crime not to show Vanessa's breasts, after teasing us the entire movie.  Unthinkable!!!

Sorry, didn't like it at all, and am very surprised people praise it.
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Exit Through The Gift Shop - A must-see documentary/mockumentary?/doesn't matter for anyone who works in any kind of art form, directed by legendary graffiti artist, Banksy. The less said about the content itself, the better. It seems like a good film to watch cold.

I should note that this is a major love-it-or-hate-it film with plenty of people already on both sides. If you fall in the latter category, you'll probably find it pretentious and/or offensive. The likelihood that you'll hate it sort of depends on how you feel about "art" and all which the term implies.

Obviously, I loved it, given my recommendation.


I watched this a few months back, and would probably fall more into the love it category.  I wouldn't say it was all out love, but I enjoyed it.  I found it pretty interesting the way it kind of turned around on itself, if that makes sense without giving anything away to anyone, even though it's pretty much laid out in the synopsis.


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Dead & Buried - 1981

I saw this in the theater when it was released, 30 years ago.  Although I've only seen it once other than last night, since, it's always stuck in my head as a cool movie.

Boy, how things have changed in my head, I guess.

Although it is a cool premise, and the kind of movie where you're never sure what exactly is going on until the very end, it's also a complete mess In so many ways, mostly, regarding logic, based around the completely ludicrous plot.

There's a ton of great info running rampant on the net about all the troubles this thing went through during shooting.  It was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett from a story from 2 others.  Shusett has "story" credit for Alien, while O'Bannon got "screenplay" credit.  They collabed on a number of popular 80's flicks.  The late, great Stan Winston did most of the FX.  Made for $3 Million, it was a box office bomb.

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It's got a great intro scene as well as a number of memorable moments.  It plays out like a horror mystery and does successfully keep you guessing to the very end...but that's also where it shoots itself in the foot, as the reveal makes zero sense, if you start to think about it.  And the more you think about it, the more ridiculous it all is, which is too bad, cause it didn't have to hinge itself on such a completely non plausible finale and reveal.

I remember it was very difficult to find this on DVD for a long time.  It was finally released on Blu Ray awhile back.  Not sure how the Blu Ray fares, but on streaming, it looks pretty bad...shockingly bad, actually.  It's a very dark film to begin with.  Most scenes are shot in fog, which makes it even darker and harder to make out what's going on.  It has a cheap look to it, as well, which it shouldn't have, based on a budget that was far from low, 30 years ago.

It's definitely worth a look and I can easily see where some will like or even love it, on first viewing.  Just don't try to get too deep and you should be mildly entertained.
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I LOVE Dead and Buried.  Great (admittedly, completely kooky) story, great goofy visuals, and lots of truly brilliant work from Stan Winston.  Also, some not so brilliant work from whoever the re-shoots effects team was (the fisherman, the scientist).  Completely worth seeing for the syringe gag alone.
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Dead & Buried - 1981

I saw this in the theater when it was released, 30 years ago.  Although I've only seen it once other than last night, since, it's always stuck in my head as a cool movie.

Boy, how things have changed in my head, I guess.

Although it is a cool premise, and the kind of movie where you're never sure what exactly is going on until the very end, it's also a complete mess In so many ways, mostly, regarding logic, based around the completely ludicrous plot.

There's a ton of great info running rampant on the net about all the troubles this thing went through during shooting.  It was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett from a story from 2 others.  Shusett has "story" credit for Alien, while O'Bannon got "screenplay" credit.  They collabed on a number of popular 80's flicks.  The late, great Stan Winston did most of the FX.  Made for $3 Million, it was a box office bomb.

SPOILERS     SPOILERS     SPOILERS     SPOILERS     SPOILERS

It's got a great intro scene as well as a number of memorable moments.  It plays out like a horror mystery and does successfully keep you guessing to the very end...but that's also where it shoots itself in the foot, as the reveal makes zero sense, if you start to think about it.  And the more you think about it, the more ridiculous it all is, which is too bad, cause it didn't have to hinge itself on such a completely non plausible finale and reveal.

I remember it was very difficult to find this on DVD for a long time.  It was finally released on Blu Ray awhile back.  Not sure how the Blu Ray fares, but on streaming, it looks pretty bad...shockingly bad, actually.  It's a very dark film to begin with.  Most scenes are shot in fog, which makes it even darker and harder to make out what's going on.  It has a cheap look to it, as well, which it shouldn't have, based on a budget that was far from low, 30 years ago.

It's definitely worth a look and I can easily see where some will like or even love it, on first viewing.  Just don't try to get too deep and you should be mildly entertained.


I watched the BluRay of this title last night.
It's a pretty crisp transfer with a few dark patches.
The film is a mish-mash of good and bad due to production chaos.
This is what happens when reshoots are not handled by the original crew.
Unlike, The Fog, where Avco Embassy went to Carpenter to punch up the gore.
Dead abd Buried has some strong moments undone by shoddy follow up.
Not to mention an intriguing albeit nonsensical plot.

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Birdemic: Shock and Terror - 2010

I have seen the future of film and his name is James Nguyen.

You've heard the stories, read the reviews, but you can't prepare yourself for the actual film.  You literally have to see it to believe it.  And now, thanks to our good friends at Netflix, it's available streaming.

I honestly believe that all men, women, and children, basically, all humans, should watch this film in its entirety.  I would even suggest strapping your pets down in front of the TV, so they can enjoy and learn from this gem, as well.  If it were possible, I'd recommend having dolphins and whales watch, as well, but setting up giant, underwater TV's, all over the oceans would be tough and just not cost effective, in the long run.

Al Gore must be very proud of James Nguyen.  Maybe they're even lovers...who knows.  This movie is so "deep", and offers so much wonderful information about global warming and fossil fuel burning, I really have to say that it's much more than just entertainment, it's a true learning experience like no class you've ever attended.

What's the story and plot, you ask?  Well, I really don't think it's fair to spoil any of the "shock and terror", but I will reveal that it's 2 movies in 1, and they are literally equal in run time, at about 46 minutes each.  The first half of the movie follows 1 of the greatest love stories you'll ever see.  A courtship of 2 wonderfully drawn, dynamic, and witty characters.  Then, without any warning whatsoever, things turn downright horrific, as waves and waves of photo-shopped eagles and vultures attack the quiet town of Half Moon Bay, CA, where our young lovers are enjoying a romantic weekend in a dirt cheap motel.

Finally, let me make it clear, that any and every aspiring film maker, as well as seasoned film expert MUST watch this masterpiece.  You will learn exactly what not to do, in literally every regard.

You must see this to believe it.  The higher your blood alcohol level is, the better.  If you enjoy weed, mushrooms, or any other hallucinogenics, the more the merrier.

And finally, I have wonderful news.  Birdemic II:  Resurrection 3D, should be out early next month.  In this highly anticipated sequel, the eagles and vultures mysteriously return to wreck havoc in Hollywood!

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I'm going to try to check out Birdemic either this evening or tomorrow sometime. A friend of mine told me, quite seriously, that Birdemic is actually worse than The Room and made a rather convincing case at that. This, I have to see.


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James, I still haven't "manned up" on The Room yet, but it's approaching the top of my que.

This is shocking...jaw dropping...amazing!  I wanted to quote some of the dialogue, but chose not to.  Here's 1 little gem for you, though.

After the eagles first attack, and "hover" outside our lover's motel window, they suddenly leave, Nathalie (showing camel toe, actually) says to Rod, "Why'd they stop?".  He responds, "I don't know...maybe they got tired."  

But there are so many classic lines and dialogue exchanges throughout.

You'll love the editing, the sound recording, the soundtrack, the acting, the writing...everything.

As I said, you truly have to see it in its entirety to understand what we're dealing with here.
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Hobo with a Shotgun is now available.


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Everyone should watch this.


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It's definitely not for "everyone".  Actually, I'd say it has a very limited audience.
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I'm going to try to give this one a shot tonight.

Watched Red Corner last night. It was okay. It was basically your standard courtroom drama/thriller, but set in China. Nothing new. Nothing amazing, but still pretty good...maybe it was Gere...I don't know.  



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Pia, I actually saw Red Corner in the theater, when it was released awhile back.  I wasn't impressed either. Just didn't have much going for it to make it the least bit memorable.
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Just watched it. I'll say its decent bloody fun if you go in not taking it too serious. It seems as though they tried to emulate QT's type of film making, but failed IMO. The tone of the film actually tries to take itself seriously at times. Those were the funniest parts for me.

Rutger talking to a bunch of new-borns about what they'll be when they grow up. Abbey (The prostitute) speaking to the people of the town who were attacking the homeless per The Drake's request. Two of the most awful monologues i've ever heard.

On the other hand, Quite enjoyed slick torching an entire bus of school children whilst his bro holds up two boom boxes jamming Disco Inferno. If they would've kept it this fun all the way through and not even attempted at some moral messages, I would've liked it a ton better. I'll reccommend it, though. I was never bored.

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Okay, I'm 30 minutes into Hobo and I think I will end it there. There1's just nothing about it that has held my attention yet and I like the genre, Hauer and 70s style....just didn't work for me.


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Trust me, Pia...I hear ya.  I had a very hard time getting through it as well.
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Oh man,

I see all the selections you guys and gals get on Netflix in the States and I look at the selection I have here in Canada and I sigh.

I'm still hoping that Netflix can expand it's selection up here.

Here's two recent movies I found on Netflix:

Triangle - low budget, but smart horror flick.
Two for the Money - Pacino and McConaughy. Missed this one when it first came out. I was a little underwhelmed to be honest.


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Triangle's been brought up a few times, actually.  Two for the Money is not streaming here in the states.
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wow, im surprised to see so many people who disliked hobo with a shotgun. i personally loved it for what it was. not a perfect movie. but an absolute blast (for grindhouse fans only). then again, i guess i can see why so many people disliked it.

them! is streaming right now. checked it out last night for some inspiration for a short im writing and really enjoyed it. one of those films that everyone talks about but no one watches.

also been on a kick of watching movies that are "so bad they're good." in that case, troll 2 and howard the duck is streaming. after watching howard however, i wanted to gouge my eyes out (duck nipples...seriously?)


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Will, you definitely need to watch Birdemic: Shock and Terror, if you're watching so bad they're great.  This is the granddaddy of 'em all.  Get it while it's streaming.
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You're like the fifth person to tell me that. Some were saying that it's worth than The Room (which i find VERY hard to believe). I'm going to check it out in a day or so. thanks man!


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Just saw Birdemic. Posted a review too. One of the stupidest yet dullest, most pathetic movies I've ever seen. I hated it so much, I'm offended that the director ever chose to express himself through art or try to entertain people.


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I'm going to try to check out Birdemic either this evening or tomorrow sometime. A friend of mine told me, quite seriously, that Birdemic is actually worse than The Room and made a rather convincing case at that. This, I have to see.


I'm scheduled to get The Room in the mail tomorrow.  Maybe, after I take my kids to the day out with Thomas the Tank Engine extravaganza, I'll watch it and follow it up with Birdemic...


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Classic, Mike!  Pure classic!  

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Heat (1986) - Burt Reynolds as a Las Vegas mercenary turned bodyguard who works out of a bail bondsman's office and takes jobs posted out of Soldier of Fortune magazine.  He's known as the most lethal man in the world.  One of Burt's post fame, mid eighties low budget actioner in the era of Stick, Rent A Cop, Malone.  It's ridiculous but lots of fun eighties cheese.  Highly recommended.
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Brick - A strange but intriguing film starring a young(er) Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Everything is written like a classic hard-boiled detective story... except it takes place at a high school and all the characters are high schoolers. The dialogue takes a little to get used to as it's not natural for the characters and comes off as hipster-ish early on but once you get settled into what it's supposed to be, it's actually a very fun and almost quasi-experimental piece of neo-noir.


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Brick - A strange but intriguing film starring a young(er) Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Everything is written like a classic hard-boiled detective story... except it takes place at a high school and all the characters are high schoolers. The dialogue takes a little to get used to as it's not natural for the characters and comes off as hipster-ish early on but once you get settled into what it's supposed to be, it's actually a very fun and almost quasi-experimental piece of neo-noir.


I thought Rian Johnson's writer/director debut was pretty outstanding too.
I'm looking forward to his next film, starring Joseph Gordon-Levitt & Bruce Willis.
It's a mob action sci-fi flick called, "Looper".
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1276104/

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QWIKSTER!!

Everybody else get that apology letter from Reed Hastings?  Wow, been awhile since I've seen an executive publicly eat that much shyt.  Looks like they're really trying to bury the DVD by mail portion of their company.  Calling it Qwikster now.  Put a lot of thought into the new name, I see.  It's incredible how far this company has fallen in just a couple months.  I saw this:

"Since backlash to the price increase, investors have grown disillusioned. Netflix's market value has plummeted 53 percent from its high, wiping out about $8 billion in stockholder wealth. On Monday, the stock shed more than $11 to close at $143.75."

Half market value gone in a few months.  Unbelievable.  Right now, I still subscribe to the instant play, but Starz will be pulling all its titles in January, I think.  That's a lot of movie gone from instant play.  Damn shame, I really loved Netflix when it was nine bucks a month for dvd and instant.
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Trust

I dunno why, but I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Critics were so-so on it from what i can see. Didn't do any research, but when netflix starts it, there's no studio logos at all... Right to the chase.

Didn't do research to see who, if any, distrubuted this. Find that had to believe with Clive Owen an Catherine Keener in starring roles.

So they're parents who's 14 year old daughter befriends a 35 yr old predator online. They end up meeting, she gets raped. She tells a friend and sooner rather then later, the FBI are involved.

Clive becomes obsessed with finding and killing this guy. Their daughter hates her parents and her friend for not understanding her relationship with this man. Her mother struggles to keep the family together. It all comes to a pretty good bubble. Very deep and real. Never saw a rape kit so much in depth before. Very well acted throughout...

SPOILERS!!!

The only one you need to know is that they never catch the guy. They just figure how to get along with their lives. This guy is good at it and has done it before. As much as I hate that ending, it's very real to me.

END SPOILERS

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Good job, Bert!  I was wondering what happened to this thread.


Someone resurrected this thread and I'm resurrecting part of a post from July 11, 2010. Lot's wife I guess.   But so be it...

Bert is the deep thinker working quietly in the background. Always thinking. Always working, even if you don't see him, he's there and productive.

As I mentioned last week, I feel like an oddity because I read more than watch movies. And I watch almost no television except the odd gander at Hell's Kitchen or a glimpse from someone else's viewing.

When I choose to watch something, it's with a passion and I throw my whole body and psyche into it. I don't do it passively to relax. I don't know what relax means. Not anymore, anyways...

I want to ask Jeff if he has yet watched "Once Around" with Richard Dreyfuss and Holly Hunter...

I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!

But Jeff, I think it will probably be much too slow and even mundane for you because I think you really love (it gets your adrenaline going) more action based works.

That's ok. Still, I would love to hear you comment on this film because I think that it's one of the best shows I've ever watched. I've watched it tons of times. I loved all of the actors... I don't know what else to say but love-love-love.

If I could write a script half that good and see it produced, I'd consider my life worth lived. That's how strongly I feel about that one.

Like I said though, don't feel bad if you hate it or whatever. That's you and you help to create a reflection of me so that I can exist. It's all good.

P.S.

I need to seriously try to watch one movie per week. My choosing. So:

You guys. YOU GUYS! I'm talkin' to ya now. Feel me?

What should I be watchin'? What'll help me grow as a writer? As a person?

Give me your feedback. I'm waiting. At a bus stop. On mystical 7th avenue. Or street. I'm not sure.  

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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
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Thank you, though perhaps not as deep as you might think...


Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
..."Once Around" with Richard Dreyfuss and Holly Hunter...

I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!


Recommendation noted, but after checking, it is not available on streaming.

However, I will let the recommendation stand based upon your enthusiastic endorsement for a little-known film.


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What should I be watchin'? What'll help me grow as a writer? As a person?


From what I can gather of your sensibilities and worldview, Sandra, I will resurrect an old recommendation:


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The Stoning of Soraya M:  This one is movie broccoli -- watch it because it is good for you.  Amazing acting, even with subtitles.  As you watch, you will want to strangle some people in this film.  You cannot believe this stuff really happens, but it is filmed by Iranians in Iran, who I guess would know better than anyone.  This one will turn you into Screenrider -- outraged, and wanting to do something -- but I have no idea what.  Perhaps it is enough to watch and make yourself aware.  Really worth a look, but I cannot give this one a perfect score, as it pissed me off too much.  9/10


Try to check this one out, Sandra.  It will move you, and stick with you long after the credits have rolled.


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^^  I worked at a theatre when Soraya M came out.  I think it was the only film we ever had after which I'd see the majority of the audience come out weeping.  People would frequently declare their new intention to go get drunk, or to simply go home and think.

Powerful stuff.  Seeing it in theatre was particularly moving.  There are a couple images that have never left my head.

Also, the DP, who's from Vancouver, came and watched it at our theatre, which was neat.
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From what I can gather of your sensibilities and worldview, Sandra, I will resurrect an old recommendation:

Try to check this one out, Sandra.  It will move you, and stick with you long after the credits have rolled.


I will definitely try and find this one. Much appreciate it, Bert.

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Dave just looked it up and it appears not to be available on Netflix. Where do I find it?

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I dunno why, but I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Critics were so-so on it from what i can see. Didn't do any research, but when netflix starts it, there's no studio logos at all... Right to the chase.

Didn't do research to see who, if any, distrubuted this. Find that had to believe with Clive Owen an Catherine Keener in starring roles.

So they're parents who's 14 year old daughter befriends a 35 yr old predator online. They end up meeting, she gets raped. She tells a friend and sooner rather then later, the FBI are involved.

Clive becomes obsessed with finding and killing this guy. Their daughter hates her parents and her friend for not understanding her relationship with this man. Her mother struggles to keep the family together. It all comes to a pretty good bubble. Very deep and real. Never saw a rape kit so much in depth before. Very well acted throughout...

SPOILERS!!!

The only one you need to know is that they never catch the guy. They just figure how to get along with their lives. This guy is good at it and has done it before. As much as I hate that ending, it's very real to me.

END SPOILERS

If you've got netflix, give it 10 minutes. Just like a script. I think most of you will continue alot further...


Thanks for the recommend James!!

I watched this last night thanks to you. I was interested in it since I have a script with a love story between a 14 year old girl and a 40 year old man. In my story however, the girl forces herself on the man...

IMO, it wasn't a bad film, it was good. A three out of five. The reason I wouldn't rate it higher is because I never believed in their relationship. The guy was not right. Her intentions didn't match her family life. I don't know. Psychologically it just didn't make sense to me. I'm still happy I watched it though, so thank you!  


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A three out of five. The reason I wouldn't rate it higher is because I never believed in their relationship. The guy was not right. Her intentions didn't match her family life. I don't know. Psychologically it just didn't make sense to me. I'm still happy I watched it though, so thank you!  


I agree, but at the same time, She was a bit of a loaner who didn't seem to fit in with the popular girls. She found refuge with this guy online before he meets her. I've never understood women at all, but I just thought that part felt real. Kinda like when Robert Deniro easily seduces  a fourteen year old Juliette Lewis in Cape Fear. Glad I didn't recommend a total turd!

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I'm still looking for The Stoning of Soraya M. I had found a site that said, "In Select Theatres Only". But I've found nothing for sale or for sale as a download.

Do you think it went back to the distributors and has become a part of obscure and OBLITERATED history?

This kind of shit is always hidden in favor of The Wedding Part 1,000 million. I really don't want to start swearing, but it pisses me off because even my own grown children are sending me messages in the lines of, "Mom... Did you know..."

"And I say, why the hell d'ya think you were homeschooled?" Well, not in those words, but frick... Forget that for a moment...

Is there supposed to be some big protest on Wall Street on October 5th?

If anyone's in the area, I'd love to see your videos.

Anyways, yeah, I'm quite upset by this "dumbing down". I've got more to entertain in my lilly head than red lipstick and g-strings and I abhor much of the middle eastern mentality in regards to women. I'm actually quite the opposite of a feminist, and believe a woman has a very special role, but it's
an ugly thing over there for the most part. Very ugly.

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Trollhunter  and Ironclad are now both available streaming.  Seems like the streaming lineup is increasing, like they want it to.
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Sandra,

There's also a protest at the Vancouver Art Gallery, 7:00 AM on Oct. 15, to show solidarity with those on Wall Street.  Protest gatherings will occur in several cities at that time and date.  Might not be as big here as on Wall Street, but could be neat to check out.

Maybe there's even a chance the media'll mention it here.  Ha ha.

Ironclad was a major disappointment for me.  Poorly shot and extremely generic.  Solomon Kane was a lot better (dunno if that's available).
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The Stoning of Soraya M.

This was an emotional rollercoaster for me. I've heard the talk, but needed to see it for myself. I didn't know whether to cry or pick up my beloved plasma and smash it over my knee. That is how emotionally charged this movie made me. Pissed off.

This movie is great, but far from flawless IMO. The opening act is very slow, but I found it intrigueing due to the fact I am foreign with their customs.

The turn to act two is my biggest complaint. Never bought into why this guy would bow down and sell out Soraya. She was nothing but an angel to him after his wife died.

Just didn't seem convincing enough. Would've preferred she actually did fall in love with another man. Then willingly meet her fate as she did. Her hubby was a full-on dick.

Not gonna go any deeper. It is what it is. My biggest fear used to be of dieing in the middle of the ocean from a shark attack. Now, its being buried waste deep into a hole and stoned to death....

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Looks like the "Qwikster" idea died very quickly for Netflix.  This company can't seem to make a right move lately.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Netflix-Abandons-Plan-to-Rent-nytimes-4287150265.html?x=0&.v=1

Anyway, I checked out Carriers on streaming.  I'm usually a sucker for pandemic/post apocalyptic stuff, but this movie played like a high school drama club production of The Road.  Two brothers and their girlfriends drive through the desert, looking to make it to a California coastal motel they remember fondly from their childhood.  No attempt is even made at explaining what the pandemic is or where it came from.  It just sort of happened.

Not a single scare or original moment to be found here, and the attempts to delve into humor on occasion just didn't work.  Almost all of the characters' backstories came though painfully obvious exposition.  The movie was only 77 minutes, but it was still mostly filler.  And there were parts you could tell they strung out only to increase the running time.  Talk about a lightweight script.

Avoid it like the plague.
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RED STATE is now streaming on netflix. Written and Directed by Kevin Smith (Clerks). I found this very interesting and definitely give it a recommend. Three high school kids answer an online add from a woman who wants to have sex with all three of them at one time. Turns out she's a member of this radical cult church. They kidnap the boys to make examples of them for their sins.

The Pastor's surmon in the beginning is a high point for me. Very well acted and almost charming in a sick way. These are the types of people who demonstrate outside of the funerals of soldiers and gay people. You can almost see how these people and mind fucked into following this whacko and his ways.

Things go awry. ATF gets involved and it turns into an all out war. This also shows complete mishandling from the agency's point of view. They declare the church a terrorist cell and are given orders to wipe everybody out. This becomes difficult for the agents on the front line.

It does have flaws. As much as I enjoyed it, I didn't see any clear protag. I guess you could see John Goodman's character (He looks like a skeleton of his old self) as the protag, but i wanted to cheer for one of the kidnapped boys to seek revenge for the death of his friends.

Also, the ending is a bit far-fetched. An ear-piercing tuba-like sound resonates through the lands. The church members believe its the rapture and lay down their weapons to give themselves up. Ready to go with God. Not gonna spoil what it was, but I didn't buy it.

Overall,  very good entertainment. Definitely worth an hour and 28 minutes of your time...

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I saw a trailer for this some time ago. I doubt I'd think much of it if it weren't for David Hyde Pierce. I think sometimes these kinds of flicks just need a strong, solid actor to bring everything together. That seems to be the case here. I'll check it out.

Saw Trollhunter. It was fun. Nice mythos. Kinda forgettable but for people who watch these InstantPlays in torrents, it's worth a shot, for sure.


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I saw a trailer for this some time ago. I doubt I'd think much of it if it weren't for David Hyde Pierce. I think sometimes these kinds of flicks just need a strong, solid actor to bring everything together. That seems to be the case here. I'll check it out.

Saw Trollhunter. It was fun. Nice mythos. Kinda forgettable but for people who watch these InstantPlays in torrents, it's worth a shot, for sure.


An absolute must see if you like slow, methodical build ups.  Pierce is at his best here... The other dude, the main guy, his name escapes me, the guy has some serious acting skills.  It's a bizarre story, and not all of it matches up but what's here is certainly in the top 5 I've seen Netflix stream.
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Thanks for the recommendation, Balt.  Enjoyed The Perfect Host.  A little self-consciously tricky -- and it's certainly no Sleuth, a comparison which I think it invites -- but Pierce was excellent and the story was one of a kind.
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Thanks for the recommendation, Balt.  Enjoyed The Perfect Host.  A little self-consciously tricky -- and it's certainly no Sleuth, a comparison which I think it invites -- but Pierce was excellent and the story was one of a kind.



Sharp, glad ya gave it a shot.  I was extremely surprised by it... Another out of nowhere stream is "house of the devil".  Wow!  How the hell did they pull this one off in this day and age?  This guy should make tons more movies cos he knows exactly how to capture the early 80's with stunning results - right down to the film quality used.  This one has a super ominous, slow build and then goes crazy within the last 30 min.  True to the era it represents it ends in abrupt fashion.  Check it out if you all have yet to do so... Also of note, one of the most shocking quick out of nowhere kills in sometime.  
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^^ Ti West's new film The Innkeepers has been making festival rounds and I think receiving fairly high praise for the most part.  I don't think there's news of a wide release as of yet.

If you can get your hands on his earlier one, The Roost, that's a pretty inspiring film.  Absolutely no budget and a great little shocker.
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Another Netflix stream Gem I had stumbled upon was/is "Blood River"... Very deep flick that leaves you with some questions to fill in for yourself.  A great commentary on the evil inside of man...  A great take on a pretty tired idea.   Superb acting.  Superb filming.  Top notch.
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^^ Ti West's new film The Innkeepers has been making festival rounds and I think receiving fairly high praise for the most part.  I don't think there's news of a wide release as of yet.

If you can get your hands on his earlier one, The Roost, that's a pretty inspiring film.  Absolutely no budget and a great little shocker.


The Innkeepers gets a limited theatrical in February and VOD release shortly before. Yeah, I enjoyed House of the Devil a ton. Stream that, y'all.
What a pleasant throwback slow burn suspense film that was.

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I'll second that! It was a cold and grey morning here today so I took the dog for a walk then made a cup of hot chocolate in my crappy ss mug and went back to bed and watched Blood River.

When I first saw it had only 1.5 stars at Netflix I groaned, but decided to give the first "ten" a look. I'm very glad I did. I found it to be much better than the rating they had. At least a 2.5 but maybe even a 3.

Am a little tired of the religious nut jobs killing people. Find it quite cliche. There were also a lot of other cliche things and dumb moves by the characters, but the rest of it was high enough quality so I let it pass.  Definitely a recommend! Thanks Balt!



Glad ya checked it out -- The only big, big problem I had with the movie was the plot point I must have missed with

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Why she, Summer, didn't know where her son was.  Why were they in the desert and why would she leave without knowing where her son was or who her son was with?  It made no sense.  I wanted to go back and re-watch it again, but I've not had the time to do so the last few months.  

Otherwise I loved it for the basic, we've seen this take before only different nature of the film.  It's that one damn hang up I've got.  Why didn't she know!?  Why did she not see the body when he went to check the tire!?
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Monsters is now on instant and i highly recommend it. despite it's terrible title, the dialogue, story, and direction are all superb. the ending is pretty awesome as well. the director's a newbie but he'll be directing some big budget flix for sure. he did quite a lot with such a low budget and crafted a movie about monsters that has a lot of feeling behind it.


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Glad ya checked it out -- The only big, big problem I had with the movie was the plot point I must have missed with

(spoiler)

Why she, Summer, didn't know where her son was.  Why were they in the desert and why would she leave without knowing where her son was or who her son was with?  It made no sense.  I wanted to go back and re-watch it again, but I've not had the time to do so the last few months.  

Otherwise I loved it for the basic, we've seen this take before only different nature of the film.  It's that one damn hang up I've got.  Why didn't she know!?  Why did she not see the body when he went to check the tire!?


I agree. And why was he so shocked when he saw the body?

There were a lot of things that didn't ring true at all. Pointing the gun at Clark...I think anyone, people not even that familiar with guns don't just stand there when someone points a loaded one at them. I loved the image of those horns behind his head though.

Some other things would have been torn to shreds if the script had been posted here. Like Summer saying you can't leave me here and in the next breath saying , yeah that sounds like a good idea. Small things that are easily forgiven because over all it was quite good.



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I agree. And why was he so shocked when he saw the body?

There were a lot of things that didn't ring true at all. Pointing the gun at Clark...I think anyone, people not even that familiar with guns don't just stand there when someone points a loaded one at them. I loved the image of those horns behind his head though.

Some other things would have been torn to shreds if the script had been posted here. Like Summer saying you can't leave me here and in the next breath saying , yeah that sounds like a good idea. Small things that are easily forgiven because over all it was quite good.



I've went back, just now, and reevaluated some key scenes.

1.  They were on a 2 week trip.

2.  They left Ben with her parents.  So "she" thought.  He, Clark, dropped him off... Remember this is set in the 70's to early 80's.   This still doesn't account for her not calling and checking on her son at the various hotels they had stayed, though.  <-- this is my biggest gripe with the film.

3.  She never looked in the trunk... Only he did.  He then quickly shuts the trunk and starts screaming about not having the spare.

4.  I believe Joseph had some kind of power over the people he crossed... divine power or something, because she quickly became enamored with him and took his word at face value.  Thus she didn't question the gun pointing action.  (good eye on the horns, by the way)  And why, after he talked to her and kind of eased her mind she was ok with them leaving.

5.  When Clark and Joseph went back to the car, I'm not all together sure the body was there or not.  I just don't understand if Clark had buried the body in the desert already and Joseph had a hand in its placement back in the trunk -- or he was messing with Clark's mind.  

6.  The end of the movie is very fitting with the blood flowing down the desert ruts like a river... I think this is a nice touch, and they handled the 4th wall rather well too.

Overall, still a fantastic flick.  I think the acting is very focused and the story they told was as good as it has ever been told before -- And it's been told a lot.
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With this being set in the 70s (I thought) it made me think how nice it was to see some of the modern conveniences like cell phones not being used. I'm tired of horror films where someone has to say "there's no signal". Maybe that was part of why this worked so well too. Lack of modern technology to come to the rescue. Increases the feel of isolation. One of the main ingredients for good horror/suspense IMHO.

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I watched this last night. Whilst finishing my footbal extravaganza, I found myself thinking about this movie, alot. Has anyone else seen this???

Its a Zombie flick at it's nature. A seemingly washed up radio jock walks into his job at an AM radio station. His two assistants are there. He rambles on about shite, then they get phone calls. People are mutilating each other in small town Pontypool, Ontario. Googled the town name, quickly, came up as a big town in the UK.

They believe its a joke, at first. Turns out it's very real. The part I love best about this story, the virus is embedded in the English language. A warning sounds through in french, yes, their Canadian, not to speak in English anymore. Certain words trigger the virus.

There's a couple of very chilling scenes. Especially when one of the jock's assistants starts to lose it. They other two lock themselves into the sound booth. She mutilates herself and destroys herself against its windows.

The acting is spot. The shots are stylish and well done. I don't think I've ever misunderstood a movie this much, but still loved the ride.

The book was written in 99' . The author did the screenplay. Tony Burgess. In his second release of "Pontypool Changes Everything" - The book, 2009...

He apologized to readers. The book wasn't meant to make sense. It was meant to confuse. If you watfch this film, which I do recommend, you will see why...

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Pontypool

I watched this last night. Whilst finishing my footbal extravaganza, I found myself thinking about this movie, alot. Has anyone else seen this???

James


I was totally caught off guard by the quality of the film.
It's a contained tale where I was never bored.
Stephen McHattie does a great job of anchoring the film.
The virus trigger reminds me of a Laurie Anderson song.

Language is a Virus (from Outer Space) - Laurie Anderson from Mondo Kane on Vimeo.



And what was up with that bizarre black and white scene after the credits?

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Watched this last night and was quite impressed by the acting and stylish direction.  For a movie that never really changed location, it never seemed to drag at any point.  McHattie's presence helps the film immeasurably, but the supporting actors were pretty good, too.  Unfortunate title, though.

But, I have to say I felt the film lost its way at the end there.  It did a fine job of creating atmosphere out of basically nothing, just a few phone in calls and news reports.  But, once the doctor inexplicably shows up(through the horde of voracious "zombies" that were supposed to be outside) and graces us with his knowledge, the story still never really seems to make sense.  And they try so hard to explain it.  I felt the writer didn't even have an explanation, just a bunch of jumbled theories.  And the last part with McHattie on the radio saying kill is kiss, this is that, etc...that I found kind of unintentionally funny.  And it felt like they took the easy way out with the final countdown scene.

As far as music videos, the one that instantly springs to mind is Radiohead's "Just."



But, I'm pretty sure the director of that video, and the director of Pontypool, "borrowed" this idea of words spreading madness from this Twlilight Zone episode called "Need To Know" starring a young William Peterson.



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Do way better than decent cancelled TV series count on this thread?
The series may sound like a dozen other shows, but there's nothing like it produced.

"Terriers" is not available on DVD, even though it was cancelled a year ago.

But now you can watch the critically adored series on Netflix Instant!

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Not really a found footage type movie, but more of a collective of webcam and handheld videos.  I thought it was pretty well done overall.  A bit on the disturbing side, maybe, but it was a good watch.


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The Man from Nowhere

Most of the Koreans I have met have been pretty peaceful and kind, so I really wonder where their cinema comes from.  Maybe I have just never gotten one good and pissed at me.

And judging from their movies, I hope I never do.  Nobody does revenge flicks like the Koreans, and this is another fine example of their dark and violent contributions to the genre.

If you like those films, give this a look for sure.  You needn't read further.  If you are amongst those who only dabble occasionally in the Asian stuff, well, it is subtitled, and as sometimes happens, a lot of the actors look kind of alike to the Western eye, and it did take a little while to get everybody completely straight.  But with that disclosure, you can safely invest time in this one.

The main guy does a great job as the bad-ass, the villains do well with their slime-ball roles, and the little girl is actually charming and not annoying at all.  The role of the little girl makes this film kind of like "Taken", but amped up in that way the Koreans do that makes you wonder sometimes how they come up with that shit.  I liked it a lot.  


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I got the tip from this thread so I'm just echoing it here. I just finished Trollhunter and I think it's one of the best movies I've seen this year on Netflix. Just incredible for me.

I don't know if it's 100% example of found footage which is why I watched it in the first place, but it's still pretty good.
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Blood River

More than a little shocked at the praise for this movie.  I thought it was absolutely terrible.  Shockingly dull and slow.  Terrible dialogue with our 2 Protags repeating over and over each others names, "Clark" and "Summer".  Both very weak performances from these 2.

The 1 highlight was the always dependable and under appreciated Andrew Howard.

The story was weak, dull, unbelievable, and lead to an obvious climax, which was very anti-climatic.

I gave it a 1 star rating, and without the praise from Balt and Pia, I would have turned it off within 20 minutes.  Go figure...
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I always forget about this thread until somebody bumps it up.

I watched SKYLINE last night -- an alien invasion flick that did not get much love when it came out.

But having saved the film until I was in the mood for brainless, effects-driven sci-fi, I quite enjoyed it.

The characters are from cable (notably the Hispanic cop from Dexter), mostly flat, and make utterly lunatic choices to drive the plot.  I mean head-smacking dumb. This drags the film way down, and is probably where the haters are coming from.  And such cringe-worthy dialogue.  You could almost make a drinking game out of "What now?" from these guys.

But you get lots of looks at the very cool aliens, with lots of variety and what, to me, was good pace, tension, and escalation. Also, of particular interest to us on these boards, the vast majority of this flick is a single-location shoot at some hotel.

Utterly average, but with flashes of cool, and not nearly as bad as they say.


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I really enjoyed Skyline....until the very end when they set it up for a sequel without even trying to finish the first  film.

Very unsatisfying...and very bizarre.
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I hated Skyline.  The last 20 minutes were some of the worst 20 minutes in film I can recall.  Utter garbage!!
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Skyline - forgettable plot but then again most of the big budget 3D porn have forgettable plots. I did like the fact that they shot the movie mostly in one location. The cost of production was $10 mil but grossed close to $70 mil worldwide. Despite the film's flaws, I can see why they would consider making a sequel. I guess if you make enough of these a production company can really make cash.

I had one important takeaway from Skyline: a simple script shot in a contained environment is very marketable.Production costs are low (Skyline cost 500k to shoot and the rest in special effects). If the script is passable, I think any small production company would buy it.

Stoning of Soraya M. - a heart wrenching tale. I loved how the carnival came right when they were about to stone her. It took the dramatic tension a bit, even for a few seconds. I think the main antagonist is too one dimensional and the neighbor sells her out too easily. Overall, it's a good drama, and I'd recommend it.

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Point Blank - 2010. This French thriller gets a thumbs up from me. A male nurse stops an assasination attempt on a patient. Problem is, the patient is a thief and an accomplice of his kiddnaps the nurse's pregnant wife. Threatens to kill her if the nurse doesn't sneak this patient out of the hospital. At barely an hour and 20 minutes, this thing flies when it takes off. Great acting all around.

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Its got some nice plot turns with crooked cops. They're the ones trying to kill the thief as he did some work for them recovering an incriminating video that shows the cops working as a hired death squad. Pretty soon the nurse is on the run from the cops along with the thief. I won't go any further than that...

There is a major wtf moment... How the two of them sneak into the police precinct buzzin with cops.  Other than that, I found it top notch. Great acting all around and it leaves you satisfied. I always love when crooked cops get their dues...

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Just finished The Stoning of Soraya M. I thought it was amazing, despite some elements I would likely not have forgiven in other films. I'll definitely be thinking about it for a while.


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Just watched Midnight Express last night...
True story about William Hayes an American caught smuggling drugs in Turkey, in the 70`s The very harsh treatment he received and his escape from prison. it was pretty good... John Hurt was his usual top notch acting... It was funny to see Randy Quaid play an inmate!!


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FISH TANK with Michael Fassbender.

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The Baby (1973)  watch it... shower afterwards.
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Dunno if this is on Netflix but 'Kill List' is proper weird and well worth a look if you get the chance.


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Check it out.


Yo!  Second!

This film has the most peculiar distinction of having had a theatre release in 4:3, also known as the AWESOMEST FORMAT EVER.  So cool!  And the film's a great one; the perfect followup to director Arnold's Oscar-winning short Wasp.  Fassbender dependable and newcomer Jarvis a winning casting choice.
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The Baby (1973)  watch it... shower afterwards.


Good recommendation, Balt.  Just watched it.  Creepo 70s schlock at its finest.  I have to admit, that ending caught me off guard.

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I watched Pontypool the other night, as it came up in my recommended section.  

It had a pretty interesting thing going on, certainly different than the norm for the genre, or at least what it most closely resembles in terms of genre.

If nothing else, it's a good illustration of turning out something decent with limited characters/locations.


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DOGHOUSE - brit indy horror film... 6 guys go on a getaway from their wives to have a racous time and find all their women in their retreat are man-eating zombie like cannibals.... gorey, campy, and pretty freakin funny
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DOGHOUSE - brit indy horror film... 6 guys go on a getaway from their wives to have a racous time and find all their women in their retreat are man-eating zombie like cannibals.... gorey, campy, and pretty freakin funny


I don't have Netflix, can't get it in Australia but I have to say this was a horrible movie! I liked Severance so went into this with some hope but came away do so disappointed. What happened to Danny Dyer? Those glory days of The Football Factory forgotten.
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Yeah, Doghouse was strictly for the dogs.  I couldn't get more than 15 minutes into it before I said, "Fuck this".
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Yeah, Doghouse was strictly for the dogs.  I couldn't get more than 15 minutes into it before I said, "Fuck this".


Actually think you're being a bit harsh on dogs. I think they've even got better taste in movies than this!
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oh come on that movies hilarious!

and dreamscale doesnt count -  hates every movie,
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I don't have Netflix, can't get it in Australia ...


Coop, hot tip:

Quickflix - Oz's version of Netflix. Most of the movies these guys are mentioning are available on it.



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im hardly one to judge..... i love way too many b-movies..

plus ive noticed most of these "best picture" noms the last few years - ive either never heard of before..or they bored me to tears when i saw them.


so if i say a movie is good or it sucked... you should probably figure the opposite.
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Agreed, I thought 'Dog House' was one of the worst films I've ever seen. It was ridiculous throughout and made no sense by the end.

Coop, I also liked 'Severance' and 'The Cottage', in fact it was these movies that inspired me to write 'Pub Lunch'. I actually wrote the 'Mozza' character with Danny Dyer in mind lol.


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oh come on that movies hilarious!


Maybe we're thinking of different movies then!


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Quickflix - Oz's version of Netflix. Most of the movies these guys are mentioning are available on it.



Thanks for the tip, Libby. I'll check it out.


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Coop, I also liked 'Severance' and 'The Cottage', in fact it was these movies that inspired me to write 'Pub Lunch'. I actually wrote the 'Mozza' character with Danny Dyer in mind lol.


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Some people have been starting new threads for these films as they watch them, and that is cool if you are going for a full-on review.  I prefer the bite-size batches, listed alphabetically here:

Dark Side of the Moon:  It says this was made in 1990, but this is pure 1980's cheese all the way -- from the "futuristic" computers that would find themselves in a dumpster today, to the MacGyver hair, to the ridiculously huge set that allegedly represents the Space Shuttle Discovery.  The plot is loopy nonsense somehow linked to the Bermuda Triangle (?), and I was surprised to learn that the guy who plays Tyrell in "Blade Runner" was actually a pretty crappy actor. Who knew?  I kind of dug this film for the throw-back factor -- so this is good for the I-love-the-80's crowd -- but apart from that, it is not a very good film.

Hellraiser:  Revelations:  Make no mistake, this film is dreadful -- apparently this was cobbled together to meet some kind of contractual obligations.  PinHead is played by another guy.  Having said all that, however, I admit that I did not really despise it.  I always watch these Hellraiser films for some reason, and you know, the last few seemed to have nothing to do with much of anything.  At least this one tried to adhere to the mythos set up in the first couple of films.  I think maybe the writer was a fan (looking at his IMDB) who was really trying --  but he just got undermined by a team that really did not care all that much. This one is for the completist fans of the series, but is obviously far from the film fans of the franchise have been waiting for.

Heartless:  This is one of the good ones you have never heard of.  A bit of a "Jacob's Ladder" vibe to it -- maybe a bit of "Donnie Darko" -- but different enough that making these comparisons is not really much of a spoiler.  It is a Brit film, so sometimes the dialogue was a bit tough for my Western ears to catch all of it, but the visuals were strong enough that I had no problem getting the gist of things.  A really twisty plot that keeps shooting off in unexpected directions keeps you going to the end.  Good acting with oddly unique characters.  I rank this one a solid 8 out of 10.

Tucker and Dale vs. Evil: This has been reviewed elsewhere, but I see it is on streaming now.  There are simply no excuses for slasher fans not to see this upending of the genre.  Could have been funnier, I think, but still pretty funny.  Check it out, for sure.

The Shrine: This might have been a Dreamscale pick, and it is a pretty solid genre piece.  It takes a little time to get going, but good pace once it does, with some nice, late reveals that help to pull the story together in a very satisfying fashion.  A good, demonic ghost story, worth the watch.

Undocumented:  I know this one is a Dreamscale pick -- and the man gushed.  At the risk of incurring his wrath, I was less impressed.  This film is making a statement -- make no mistake -- but there is so little subtlety here that outrage is replaced with eye-rolling.  At least from my couch it was.  It had its intriguing moments, and is not a poor film by any means, but I felt spoon-fed when all was said and done.  A half-baked "Hostel" that loses its way in over-the-top rhetoric.


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Hey Bert, here's my quick assessment of the ones I've seen that you just listed.

Hellraiser:  Revelations - terrible, but as you said, not as bad as many made it out to be.  Pinhead looks hilarious, and the "plot", if you want to call it that, is awful.

Tucker and Dale vs. Evil - Damn, I tried...I honestly did...on several occasions.  Couldn't get through it.  Definitely not my cup of tea.  I hated it and the more whacky it got, the more I hated it.

The Shrine - Nope, didn't like it at all.  It looked like it was going to rock, but it didn't do anything for me at all.  I was quite disappointed.

Undocumented - Loved it!  Absolutely thought it was kickass in every way.
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Some people have been starting new threads for these films as they watch them, and that is cool if you are going for a full-on review.  I prefer the bite-size batches.


I'd like to be able to write more full-length reviews but I've been simultaneously busier and lazier than usual for the past few months (didn't think this could happen but somehow it has). Anyway, I've definitely seen some films on Instant Play that I definitely should've mentioned here long ago.

Black Sabbath - For fans of anthology horror ala Creepshow and Trick 'r Treat, only not humorous or nostalgic (or rather, it is nostalgia; it came out in 1963). Anyway, three stories directed by horror legend and giallo precursor Mario Bava. Despite the date, the film looks like it came out a decade later than it actually did. The lighting and color schemes scream Argento but the beauty of it all is it's prototype-Argento. Bava did it first.

But best of all, the focus of the stories is suspense and classic Gothic atmosphere. The middle story, The Telephone, is okay but The Drop of Water and The Wurdelak are supurb. Boris Karloff puts in an excellent, emotive performance in the latter and the former might have the scariest ghost ever put onscreen. The Drop of Water is a nail-biter if ever there was one.

Solid retro horror.

Grizzly Man - This is probably the best documentary I've ever seen in my life, if only for the sake that the subject's story is outrageous. I mean I'm sure everyone's familiar with it to a certain extent but unless you've seen the film, you really have no idea. Leave it to Werner Herzog. Amazing.

Outrage - Violent, highly entertaining Yakuza gangster flick by Japanese film legend "Beat" Takeshi Kitano. I'd say this is as close to a Japanese Casino as you're going to get. Both films made me laugh and smile at just how shocking, over the top and yet how serious they are. I think Outrage is a little more tongue and cheek than Scorsese's stuff but the look of the film is so classy, you can't ever be sure. At the very least, if you're looking for interesting ways for gangsters to kill and fuck with people, Outrage should more than suit you. Can't wait for the sequel.


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I very much appreciate this thread. I often end up watching what you guys recommend. Sometimes I even checkout those that are called complete waste time.  

The people that made Blackout and Finders Keepers have a film on NF too...it has 1 1/2 stars.  


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Say, that does sound promising.

The reason this thread exists.  Thanks, James.  Will check it out over the long weekend, for sure.

And Jeff couldn't get into Tucker and Dale?  It goes over the top for a reason, following the formula.  I am surprised you've got no love for this one -- though I do agree it could have been even better.



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The people that made Blackout and Finders Keepers have a film on NF too...it has 1 1/2 stars.  


Didn't you tell me "Heartless" was one of theirs?

That was one of the main reasons I checked it out, and it was pretty darn good, too.


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Didn't you tell me "Heartless" was one of theirs?

That was one of the main reasons I checked it out, and it was pretty darn good, too.


...no. Theirs is Butchered.  I tried to watch it.  



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And Jeff couldn't get into Tucker and Dale?  It goes over the top for a reason, following the formula.  I am surprised you've got no love for this one -- though I do agree it could have been even better.


Aye, there's the rub...the "formula".

No formulas for this kid.  Got to be different, at least in some way.

Since I was away for almost 2 weeks, I have alot of DVR'd TV to catch up on before I make my triumphant return to the Valley of the Sun, so I doubt I'll be catching any Netflix for a few weeks.

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Following a nice, relaxing Memorial Day weekend, another report from the vast wasteland of Netflix streaming, alphabetically.

Black Sabbath:  This pick from James sounded good, and I concur that it is for those who can enjoy the roots of horror cinema -- and understand who James is talking about when he mentions Bava and Argento.  It is fun to see Boris Karloff doing the shtick he did best, one of the greats of his day.  "The Telephone", with its jazzy "Pink Panther-like" soundtrack, felt oddly like a horror episode of Mad Men.  But the showstopper is "Drop of Water", with its wonderful ghost.  She may not compete with CGI today, but she is a true, handmade horror masterpiece -- and audiences in the darkened theaters of the 60's must have been pooping themselves.  Even if you decide to check out for the other two stories, you owe it to yourself to watch the first story for the effects alone.

Blood River:  This is not the slasher that it looks like.  It is a vaguely religious-themed thriller with a cast of only 3.  I hated the couple, but the Cowboy who moves from cheerful to malevolent in the blink of an eye is quite good.  The film moves quite slowly, but builds good tension in its time.  Not a film for impatient viewers, nor for those who desire answers to all their questions.  A perfect middle-ground film -- not great, not bad -- but recommended for those who enjoy films that explore themes of God and the Devil and stuff like that.

Chop:  A very entertaining film!  Balt recommended this one somewhere, I think.  It is hard to make this dark kind of comedy work, but here nearly all of it works.  It starts to get a little repetitive near the end -- and the final reveal is just weird -- but those are small distractions from an otherwise strong, low-budget film.  The lead guy is great -- that is, he will grow on you -- and he can put the funniest spin on even his throwaway lines. I haven't seen him elsewhere, but think he might even have a future in the business.  A twisty, over-the-top storyline with good performances that peters out just a bit near the end.  A solid recommend, this one.

Pontypool:  I really wanted to like this one, but was underwhelmed.  It almost plays out as if it were written for the stage, with a small handful of characters trapped in a radio station, and an almost Kafkaesque sentimentality that is clearly designed to appeal to an intellectual audience.  There is a LOT of talking in this film, but for all their talking, I still only had the most general understanding of what the heck was really going on outside the radio station.  Perhaps that was by design, but it is hard to be sure.  There are a few gore effects scattered about here and there, and while I think I can appreciate what they were trying to accomplish in terms of the genre, this is not a film aimed for the zombie crowd.  I am not really sure who this film is for, actually.  Not me, anyway.  Swing and a miss.

Yellowbrickroad:  This one is tough to review, and seems to be a love-it or hate-it kind of deal for most viewers.  It had some really great ideas -- but somewhere in the running time it clearly loses its way and becomes -- well, it becomes kind of crappy.  And the thing is, it is almost impossible to tell when that actually happens.  It is hard to explain.  And then there is the ending.  The kind that makes you go to Google and type in "WTF happened?" -- only to find out the rest of the world is also pretty much WTF.  If you hate the random, ambiguous ending, avoid this film -- it is one of the worst offenders out there.  I will mention that my 15 or so minutes with Google revealed that this film has very vigorous defenders -- and I guess I can see part of their POV -- but I cannot really recommend this film.


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Yep. I just watched Yellowbrickroad because it sounded like the sort of thing I would like and for the most part I liked it. Though I really wanted to "get" it, I have to admit that the end was of the WTF variety - not that there's anything inherently wrong with that.  I will go out on a limb and say that bert gave a very accurate assessment of the film.
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I concur about Blood River.
It was an uncommon character piece dressed up in genre garb.

The writer/director followed it up with, Pig (2010).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1637712/

I doubt that one's on the freebie list.
It's a knock down drag out dimestore gore affair.
The whole thing is filmed as a "single shot"
I think there's just a couple trick edits in the whole movie.

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I concur about Blood River.
It was an uncommon character piece dressed up in genre garb.

The writer/director followed it up with, Pig (2010).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1637712/

I doubt that one's on the freebie list.
It's a knock down drag out dimestore gore affair.
The whole thing is filmed as a "single shot"
I think there's just a couple trick edits in the whole movie.

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I wasn't ever impressed with Pig... people raved it up, but there wasn't anything truly there.  It was boring, drawn out and nothing too shocking really happened in direct line of the cam, save for an incident or two.

August Underground (Mordum)/ trilogy is by far the most shocking, disturbing, filth to ever be made... Ever.  I was left emotionally drained after the 1st one and, to this day, still don't know how I got the courage up to watch the other 2.  Complete trash... on every level that is pure, these movies are pissed right out of the Devil's junk into the throat of anyone bored enough to let their mind wander off in curiosity as to what they're in store for.
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Has anyone seen Four Lions?
It's one of the darkest comedies I've ever seen, at first the subject matter doesn't seem ripe for comedy but somehow they pull it off. The 1st and 2nd acts are solid, but the 3rd act is one of the most satisfying I've ever watched.
IMDB synopsis quote:
"Four Lions tells the story of a group of British jihadists who push their abstract dreams of glory to the breaking point. As the wheels fly off, and their competing ideologies clash, what emerges is an emotionally engaging (and entirely plausible) farce. In a storm of razor-sharp verbal jousting and large-scale set pieces, Four Lions is a comic tour de force; it shows that-while terrorism is about ideology-it can also be about idiots."
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Don't remember if Antibodies has been mentioned before. I watched it last night. I thought it was really great. It's a psychological thriller, I guess. It's a German film so if you don't like subtitles...

Anyway, I highly recommend it. This is copied from Wikipedia because I suck as a reviewer.  

"In Berlin, the pederast serial killer Gabriel Engel, who later admitted to brutally killing 13 boys and painted impressive religious works of art with their blood, is accidentally taken during an overnight operation. Commissioner Seiler is charged with the interrogation of the murderer.
In the small village of Herzbach, memories of the unsolved murder of the 12-year-old Lucy are still alive and the crime is attributed to Engel. Michael Martens, a police officer from Herzbach, decides to travel to Berlin to talk with Engel. During the case, he neglected his wife and children.
In Berlin, it is assumed that there are parallels between the murders. The Berlin police are no longer able to get information from Engel. Martens tries his luck, and manages to persuade Engel to talk. However, Engel is playing a game with Martens during which reality and fiction blend more and more. Martens is soon convinced that the murderer of the girl is still at large.
Martens, a devout Catholic, slowly begins to explore his dark side and begins a brief affair with a woman from the city.
After Engel has ingested poison which he acquired through bribery, he has 48 hours to live. Finally, Engel tells Martens the story of the murder of Lucy, which he claims to have not committed, but only observed. He tries to throw suspicion on Martens' difficult 13-year-old son.
The desperate Martens then decides to kill his son, but in the meantime, Commissioner Seiler finds out that Engel has committed suicide and that Martens has been tricked by Engel as a means to kill beyond the grave. Luckily, Seiler is able to find Marten before he goes through with it and saves him and his son."


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Has anyone seen Four Lions?
It's one of the darkest comedies I've ever seen, at first the subject matter doesn't seem ripe for comedy but somehow they pull it off. The 1st and 2nd acts are solid, but the 3rd act is one of the most satisfying I've ever watched.
IMDB synopsis quote:
"Four Lions tells the story of a group of British jihadists who push their abstract dreams of glory to the breaking point. As the wheels fly off, and their competing ideologies clash, what emerges is an emotionally engaging (and entirely plausible) farce. In a storm of razor-sharp verbal jousting and large-scale set pieces, Four Lions is a comic tour de force; it shows that-while terrorism is about ideology-it can also be about idiots."
Nate


Hey Nate,

I had the opposite reaction to Four Lions.
Enjoyed the first hour plus... and the third act came off the rails for me.
Guess I liked the characters more than the satirical message.
All told, still worth the time.

The writer/director also did Brass Eye for the BBC.
And the paedophilia episode is still hilarious every time I see it.

So, I hope Morris works more. NOthing new on IMDb.
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Folks, I've moved this thread to the "Movie, Television and DVD Reviews" thread.  I think it makes more sense here.  

My Netflix recommendation is "Better Off Ted" a two season short lived sitcom starring Portia de Rossi (Ellen's wife).  Jonathan Slavin and Malcolm Barrett completely steal the show as lab partners in the R&D department of fictional mega conglomerate Veridian Dynamics

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I've only heard of him but never tried it until last night - Akira Kurosawa.

On Netflix, I tried his 1984 movie "Ran." Impressive. I know he's using Shakespeare as a template, but he adapted it well. Those 2.5 hours flies by. I can see why everyone from George Lucas to Tarantino looks up to him - the man knows how to tell a great story. I wonder if Tarantino's O-Ren-Ishii is based of Kaede in this movie.

I'm gonna try "Kagemusha" next and looking for any/all Kurosawa streaming videos on Netflix.
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40 YEARS OF TROMATASTIC INDIEMANIA!

http://www.youtube.com/user/troma?feature=watch

It's not NetFlix, but...

Troma Films thanks its fans by uploading tons of their catalog.
Check it out!

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WARRIOR

This is now streaming on netflix. Just watched it again. I thought this was a great movie. I think Tom Hardy is far more fearsome in this role than he was as Bane. And even more cruel... to his now sober father, Nolte, who probably played the part he has built himself for. He was brilliant.

You don't have to be an MMA fan to enjoy this, or a film critic to understand how much this stands heads and shoulders above any other wannabe Karate Kid tripe they're pumping out today. Great story, awesome film IMO...

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THE HUNTER

Never was a big Willem Dafoe fan. He always delivers well in that supporting role. I didn't expect to like this, but I really did.

Dafoe is sent by a major corporation to Australia. His goal, find the Tasmanian tiger, kill it , and harvest it's organs. You find later on that it has a unique toxin that the corporation wants. And, it is the last of its kind. The loan survivor.

Dafoe gets a less than warm welcome by the Aussies. They know what he is up to. The gem of this story is where he bunks. With a bit of a defunct family who's father was lost hunting the tiger.

His wife is lost on drugs when he gets there, but the kids are sharp as nails. Dafoe slowly finds his way towards the elusive tiger as the children's mother comes around. She's extremely likeable. The chemistry between Dafoe and the family is palpable.

Plus, you never once know anything about Dafoe's back story. Is he a world class hunter? Does he have a wife? Kids? I love that they never waste time explaining that.

MAJOR SPOILER
When the corporation is not pleased with Dafoe's devotion, they send in another guy who kills the mother and one child. Dafoe manages to escape this assassin and finds the tiger. IN a pretty heavy scene, he locks onto it and kills it with his rifle. He then burns its remains so that nobody can ever have them.

This is not a man vs beast scenario. It's a man vs greedy drug companies. It's a sad story, but rock solid acting and never boring. Highly recommended from me.

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WARRIOR

This is now streaming on netflix. Just watched it again. I thought this was a great movie. I think Tom Hardy is far more fearsome in this role than he was as Bane. And even more cruel... to his now sober father, Nolte, who probably played the part he has built himself for. He was brilliant.

You don't have to be an MMA fan to enjoy this, or a film critic to understand how much this stands heads and shoulders above any other wannabe Karate Kid tripe they're pumping out today. Great story, awesome film IMO...

James



I went into this flick upon release wanting to hate Tom Hardy cos' he, in my mind, ruined Bane -- But that just couldn't be done.  The guy is truly talented.  It is a cheese-ball movie at times, some of it is eye rolling, but Hardy put on such a stellar performance here...  

Favorite part was the Casino scene and the beach scene with his brother and the pictures.  Hardy played that marvelously.

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I only wish he'd have been in it more and that the ending was different.  I feel he should have been the one to beat Angle/The Russian, not his brother -- and I feel he shouldn't have tapped -- It'd have been better to have him pass out and the bell ring or something.  

The only problem with that would be, since he kicked his brother's face in, the score cards would have all went to him for the victory.

Catch 22, but it was a good flick... It is basically Rocky for the MMA set.
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THE HUNTER


Most definitely seconded.  This one kicks ass.  

I think this is almost certainly a non-Netflix digression, but, on a related note, Sleeping Beauty is the screenwriting/directing debut of Julia Leigh, who wrote the novel upon which The Hunter is based.  I also highly recommend Sleeping Beauty, although it is -- and this is no small feat -- more depressing, slower, and significantly more artsy than The Hunter.  
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Following a nice, relaxing Memorial Day weekend, another report from the vast wasteland of Netflix streaming, alphabetically.

Pontypool:  I really wanted to like this one, but was underwhelmed.  It almost plays out as if it were written for the stage...


Called it!

http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/08/pontypool-changesinto-a-play-shhhhhget-yer-tix.php

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As part of my research for Horror-Comedy, I saw Tucker & Dale vs Evil, which I see is already mentioned here.

I thought it was better than Shaun of the Dead. Zany, but it's just a fun movie that parodies cabin/slasher horror flicks.
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The Hunter's up. Definitely check it out (Dafoe kills it)


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HEADHUNTERS

This is a great film. Subtitled. It's Norwegian. I got the pleasure of seeing this at the Cleveland International Film Festival in April. Of course our U.S. counterparts have already picked up the rights to make a version. Now streaming on Netflix.

This film is smartly written, once it takes off, it doesn't look back. A headhunter looking for a CEO to a major company is also an art thief. The last piece of art he steals follows him. Only to find he's been set up by someone who wants to take over the company he's shopping the CEO job for.

The twists and turns are right on time. And the production is top notch. I will forever look into the bottom of an out- house for someone breathing through a toilet paper tube after watching this.

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Funny you mentioned Headhunters James, because I just saw it two days ago. One of the best heist/cat and mouse movies I've ever seen. Super dark, gory in all the right places, and oddly humorous. A must see by all means. I had to re-watch the last two minutes several times just to digest it all.


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HEADHUNTERS

This is a great film. Subtitled. It's Norwegian. I got the pleasure of seeing this at the Cleveland International Film Festival in April. Of course our U.S. counterparts have already picked up the rights to make a version. Now streaming on Netflix.

This film is smartly written, once it takes off, it doesn't look back. A headhunter looking for a CEO to a major company is also an art thief. The last piece of art he steals follows him. Only to find he's been set up by someone who wants to take over the company he's shopping the CEO job for.

The twists and turns are right on time. And the production is top notch. I will forever look into the bottom of an out- house for someone breathing through a toilet paper tube after watching this.

James


Caught this a while back...
And really dug it lots.
A think on your feet cat and mouse game that crackles with tension.
The irony of the headhunter/thief being targeted for the same by a savvy CEO.

And that CEO is best known in the states as Jamie Lannister on Game of Thrones.
The protag has a stunning and thrilling Norwegian war film called, Max Manus.

These two have got game in this film that will keep you watching until the end.
And of course, we'll screw up the American remake!

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I really liked Headhunters also. You can read my review here, if you like. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but there are certain images that still stick with me very clearly. If nothing else, worth seeing for its almost perfect balance of tone between comedy, black comedy, drama, and violence.

Also on Netflix -- I have to admit, I was pretty impressed with Breast Picture. An absolutely zero-budget comedy that actually got quite a few laughs, for me. Painfully budget-less and looks terrible, but shows what a solid script can do.
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Speaking of zero budget comedies, just saw Poultrygeist. If you're a fan of Peter Jackson's Evil Dead/Bad Taste then it's a must see. Can't go in being too critical but I laughed more than I should have (probably because I had a few stouts in me)


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^^ Seconded. Why, Poultrygeist is the best thing since Terror Firmer. Good ol' Lloyd.
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Kill List - Horror/crime/domestic drama hybrid from Ben Wheatley (A Field in England, Down Terrace). Dark, eerie, and violent with a killer ending. Think I'm starting to like this guy.

Upstream Color - Shane Carruth's follow-up to Primer. There's already a review for it but I don't think it was mentioned that it's streaming on Netflix. I wasn't a huge fan but it was unique and ambitious and I think a lot of people will like it. Worth a watch, at least, if only to see something completely different.

Also, everyone should check out Orange is the New Black if they haven't already. I think Netflix is off to a strong start as far as original programming goes.

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Man, I just happened to check out Orange is the New Black. I'd seen all the positive reviews on Netflix.

But I have a question: why why why why, why, why...do they open things they way they do? I had to turn it off after 8 minutes because the annoyance factor was boiling my blood.

The only thing I liked was the prison ti-tties(sorry, ladies, I did)!

Ok, it begins in prison, presumably her first day. Other than the ti-tties, there was nothing compelling about the scene. I guess that's why they needed them. I mean the prison did not seem that threatening. It was just a place to see hot...well, you know. We get from her VO/quick flash that she's bisexual, she's been with hotties before. So Netflix is swinging for the cheap seats: 'tune in to see hot lesbian prison sex'. An attention grabber, but possibly an indication of a lack of confidence in the story itself.

Then we meet the guys at a cook out, a flash back to the day before she goes to prison. So it's kinda the last supper. Nothing interesting happens, it basically just lets us know that a married, attractive woman who lives in upper middle class suburbia is going the last place expected: prison.

Next is the scene that boiled my blood. We've already seen her t-titties 2 or 3 times in the first 2 minutes, so seeing her in bed with her husband holds little promise to man or lesbian. They're having sex when she breaks it off to go pee. I'm assuming all this is to humanize the characters.

For some reason, they show her husband blow a fart and air it out of the sheets. Huh? Is that supposed to make us laugh? What is this the sixth grade? But it gets worse, oh it does.

We next see the wife sitting on the toilet peeing. And I mean we get long shots from multiple angles, clearly designed to make sure we get it: she's peeing.

Yeah, she's crying, terrified about the next day...but she's peeing too! And the director really really wants us to know that. Got it? Peeeing. Giggity goo.

And in case after a minute of watching her on the toilet crying you didn't quite comprehend the fact that she was also...peeing...NOW we have to show her take a handful of toilet paper.

You figure they can cut the scene there, right? I mean we know what she's gonna do with the TP. But they have to pan back so we can watch her wipe.

Who was directing this, Beavis and Butthead?

If I keep watching do I see zit popping? Booger eating? Tampon insertion?

By now my finger is on the mouse...I'm ready to pull the plug. If they hurry and get to a good scene, I'll stay on the ride a bit longer.

Nope. We go right to her continued sex scene with her husband and some intrusively loud and wet kissing. Does anyone really like the sound of other people kissing? Well, maybe the prison girls, but I digress.

If I was a terrorist, you could get me to spill all my secrets by making me watch 5 more minutes of this crap.

Lest anyone think I am all negative, I have found some half decent shows on netflix, and I will try to post some later.
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The frequence of titties/lesbian sex steadily declines after the first few episodes. Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing.

Yeah the first episode is okay. The flashbacks are REALLY distracting (and awkwardly inserted). But stick with it. The scenes transitions are much more fluid as time goes on.

To be honest, Piper isn't very interesting. But the characters she meets in prison are fantastic. Very intriguing with complicated back stories. And things don't progress the way you would think.

In other words, stick with it. It gets much better once the show starts focusing on the people around Piper.


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It's not a perfect show. It can get pretty episodic at times and occasionally goofy or melodramatic. It's taken a few turns that aren't particularly interesting and you might get stuck with a dull subplot for a few episodes (or main plot in the case of the last three or so). I think it's got potential in its second season but a couple seasons down the road could turn into shark jumping ridiculousness.

It's too early to tell, really. First seasons always have their growing pains. I think it's got some really solid characters, it does a great job at establishing prison minutia in terms of psychology, environment, and politics, and is generally really entertaining with a couple of real serious moments in there as well. Worth a look.


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This thread seems cool.

I always browse Netflix to see if anything new grabs my attention.

I can't really recommend anything that I watched off there... except for All Good Things, being the most recent.  I know it would be more on the mainstream side with Ryan Gosling and all, but I never heard of it until I saw it on Netflix.  I liked it... very dark and sad movie.  Apparently it's inspired by real life events that took place over a 32-year time span.
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Anyway, watch House of Cards.


Great series! Can't wait until the next...

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There are a couple of series that are worth watching.

Ripper Street and Copper are two period cop dramas.  'Ripper' takes place in London about six months after the last Jack the Ripper killing.  Each time someone is killed, the local paper reports it as another Jack the Ripper attack.  The police must deal with the hysteria while doing their jobs.

'Copper' takes place in 1860 New York City, in what was formerly known as Five Corners, the deadliest slum in the world.

While these two shows have their similarities, Copper is much grittier and violent.  Both, as I said earlier, are worth watching.


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Anyway, watch House of Cards. It's a Netflix original about dirty going ons in DC. I think you'd like it. It's rated almost 5 stars and Kevin Spacey is GREAT!


What exactly is a Netflix 'original'?? Cause if it's an original concept/story I think Netflix is pushing the envelope just a little bit re 'original' with House of Cards. It's rivetting television and I suppose it could be claimed as 'original' with what they've done with the U.S. version but House of Cards (U.S.) is based on the 1990 U.K. series of the same name adapted from the novel by Michael Dobbs. In the original Francis Urquhart is the 'Chief Whip' of the Conservative Party.

Anyway, I second the 'GREAT' plaudit on this one.  Spacey is clearly the star of the show in this one (isn't he always?!) and this series is well worth watching (by writers) if just for his 'genius' delivery with re to his lines, especially the frequent 'breaking of the fourth wall' - so entertaining.   And, just wanted to add, Robin Wright is no slouch in this either - perfect 'ruthless' characterisations from both of them.

What I'd like to know from anyone who's watching it is this: Is the second season of The Newsroom worth getting? The First season was a bit tiresome with all its soap-box grandstanding but I've heard the second is a big improvement??


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Has anyone watched Hemlock Grove?  I've got it in my que, but have yet to watch it.
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I watched the first episode. Wasn't bad, but the second episode seemed to turn it more into a teen coming of age story. Might go back to it, might not.
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Quoted from LC

What exactly is a Netflix 'original'?? Cause if it's an original concept/story I think Netflix is pushing the envelope just a little bit re 'original' with House of Cards.

I didn't know that. But it is produced entirely by NF, not by one of the networks. It never aired on television.

I love that he breaks the fourth wall too.  


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Orange Is The New Black is another original Netflix series that worth watching.  It's a dramedy about a yuppie woman who finds herself in jail for something she did ten years earlier.  There, she meets a wide variety of characters as she survives from day-to-day.

Season two will be available next year.


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Has anyone watched Hemlock Grove?  I've got it in my que, but have yet to watch it.


I really tried getting into Hemlock Grove, but bailed after the third or fourth episode.  The pace is glacial and the characters just seemed like retreads from standard primetime supernatural soaps.  I don't mind a slower pace as long as the story and characters pull you in(like The Killing), but HG was just bo-ring.
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I really tried getting into Hemlock Grove, but bailed after the third or fourth episode.  The pace is glacial and the characters just seemed like retreads from standard primetime supernatural soaps.  I don't mind a slower pace as long as the story and characters pull you in(like The Killing), but HG was just bo-ring.


I don't think I finished the second episode.  It was one cliche after another and all of them poorly executed.


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OK...thanks, guys. I had a feeling it was going to suck.  I may give episode 1 a try and see how long I stay in, but I have so many movies in my que.

Appreciate the info.
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I bailed on the second episode and so wanted to get into it. It must finish strong because of the positive reviews, but I don't have the patience. HG just drags a storyline I've seen before. There's a monster in the woods and like Lost, you will probably never see him as they dangle that over your head.

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Just finished episode 4 of Orange is the New Black.  I've got to say its got outstanding characters so far, very three dimensional for a few episodes.  It's also an orignal take on how small decisions have huge consequences.  Smart writing.  I'm gonna see this one through.
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Just finished episode 4 of Orange is the New Black.  I've got to say its got outstanding characters so far, very three dimensional for a few episodes.  It's also an orignal take on how small decisions have huge consequences.  Smart writing.  I'm gonna see this one through.


The flashbacks are great in this show, especially Dogget's (the petite meth-head Jesus freak).

They filmed a flashback sequence in my neighborhood, a few weeks back, in Woodlawn Cemetery.  I'm looking forward to seeing that.


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Has anyone watched Hemlock Grove?  I've got it in my que, but have yet to watch it.


I've made it to episode 4. I'm not sure you will like it Jeff though because it's geared more towards a teen or a Twilight-ish audience I think. Otherwise, it's ok so far. Nothing great.

I'm enjoying Hell on Wheels for the time being.
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The flashbacks are great in this show.


Yes they are.  Every flashback has purpose and moves the story forward.  I guess I should be taking notes.

I loved Red's flashback and how funny was it!  It is the complete opposite of who she was in prison.  Sophia's had tons of depth as well.

Crazy Eyes! LOL!
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My daughter called to tell me I had to watch the Orange/Black series but I just didn't like it. I guess to each his own. *sigh*
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I've made it to episode 4. I'm not sure you will like it Jeff though because it's geared more towards a teen or a Twilight-ish audience I think. Otherwise, it's ok so far. Nothing great.

I'm enjoying Hell on Wheels for the time being.



You should watch Sons of Anarchy.  They have it on Netflix.

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Fuk all these stupid series!  Watch movies, damnit!!!!  MOVIES!!!!!
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Oh Lord...I've watched Sons...and LOVED it...give me JAX!

I've only recently started watching ...well binge watching these tv things. The writing in these TV things is like amazing...I mean writing that can keep me from falling asleep for not 2 hours like a movie but for 8 hours!! I do not think I'd ever watch a TV show from week to week though. It's netflix that's made it appealing to me...that along with the excellent writing/stories.
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I'm just messing around.

I don't watch any TV shows, other than reality TV.  Seriously...no interest in any series at all.

Peeps will watch what they want to watch and that's great.
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Haven't read Fifty Shades of Gray.

I read some the other day to see what the hype was. Horribly written. I can't believe its success.
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A junky good time. Very junky. But slick as all hell, and the big action sequence is friggin' insane.

And...Ji-hyun Jun AND Hye-su Kim? Yes. Yesssssss.

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Watched the remake of Maniac with Elijah Wood a couple hours ago. Very impressed. Very faithful to the plot and spirit of the original and improves on it in many ways. One of the rare remakes that's actually better than the original. I think fans will be very pleased.

The POV gimmick, while unnecessary, actually works pretty well and in certain scenes gives an extra lurid feeling to the proceedings. The gore is outstanding and very grim. There's some CGI blood and gore here and there, which also works surprisingly well. It's used sparingly and is subtle when it shows up.

Elijah Wood does a good job. I can buy that this guy would be able to make friends and hang around this beautiful French girl way more than I could in the original.

Solid horror movie overall. Less problematic and not a guilty pleasure like Lords of Salem was (which I still sort of enjoy). It is however very serious, disturbing, grotesque, and not exactly female friendly. If you're looking for something fun and scary in a popcorn sort of way, this is not it.

Very satisfied, not to mention pleasantly surprised.


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I think it was Phil who mentioned that Ripper Street was on Netflix so I was wondering if that's just the US Netflix?  I watched the series but missed the final episode and it hasn't yet surfaced anywhere here in the UK, or at least I haven't found it.


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Back with some new recommendations:

Blackfish (2013) - James (Williams) has a review posted so I'll direct you to that for info. Worth a watch.

Crystal Fairy & The Magical Cactus and 2012 (2013) - Mellow indie flick from Chile starring Michael Cera about a group of twenty-somethings on a quest to find a hallucinogenic San Predo cactus. If you don't like plotless stream of consciousness flicks or hipster overtones, this probably isn't for you but I thought it was fun and had some good performances, including Cera who finally seems to be honing his skills as an actor.

Director Sebastian Silva also released a horror/psychological thriller this year called Magic Magic, which I also recommend (not on Instant Play). Cera stars again along with Juno Temple and Emily Browning.

Frances Ha (2013) - Black and white Noah Baumbach flick. Seems like the kind of film Woody Allan would've made in the 70s except focusing on present day twenty-somethings in New York. It's made a lot of 2013 Top 10 lists so far and Greta Gerwig will probably get an Oscar nod.

Robot and Frank (2012) - Sci-fi drama about an elderly man (Frank Langella) losing his memory who uses a helper robot to commit burglaries. Probably the most straightforward, screenwriter-ly film I've seen on Netflix as of late. Great performances and should appeal to most.

Sightseers (2012) - Dark romantic comedy/horror from Ben Wheatley (Kill List, A Field in England) about a serial killing couple on holiday in the countryside. The rom com is played light and sweet while the violence is played grisly and mean. The end result is pretty deranged.

Would recommend Kill List as well, which is also on Instant Play, and naturally, you Brits have no excuse not to watch A Field in England (unless you just don't want to). Both films are violent, trippy, and disturbing.


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Sons of Anarchy is very entertaining especially the last 2 seasons... even if it is a bit jump-the-sharky
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Sons of Anarchy is a great show but honestly the last three seasons have had so much blood shed -- sometimes it even feels like blood just for the fuck of it -- that I think it hinders the show a bit.  I get that it's about an outlaw biker gang and their lifestyle isn't roses, but it just feels like the writers throw in all these deaths just to keep the viewer interested... like if we don't get at least five murders an episode people will lose interest or something. haha.

The first 2 seasons of SOA are the best, though.  Season 3 is so-so (with an awesome season finale that makes up for it).  Seasons 4-6 are good, bordering on OK.

Ron Perlman definitely carried that show.  He was phenomenal.

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I loooovveee Sons. Just waiting for the fifth season to arrive in the UK, if ever. Breaking Bad just triumphs over every series I've ever watched though.

Holy Motors - I saw this little French surreal flick and decided to watch it. Weird but fun. Quite funny in places.


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So... it's February 14, which means, of course...

House of Cards, Season 2. Last season was killer. Glad the wait wasn't too long. Best new show I've seen coming off Breaking Bad.

I know what I'm doing today. Who else is watching?

Feel like there was something else that was supposed to be going on today. For the life of me, I can't remember what. Couldn't have been that important...



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Can't wait to start Cards.

Btw check out The Hunt if you haven't already. Stellar all around.


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The Hunt is definitely on my list and I will get to it either today or tomorrow. I tend to watch Instant Play while I'm cooking so I try to avoid watching anything with subtitles as I won't be able to give it my full attention. Otherwise I probably would've seen it by now.

So stoked for Cards. It's a truly formidable show that I think will allow Netflix to truly compete with other programming as far as original content is concerned. I think Orange is the New Black is also strong but Cards is definitely the show that Netflix can boast in the face of the Boardwalk Empires and Mad Mens out there. I bet with Season 2, word of mouth will definitely start to pick up.


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Just finished House of Cards season 2. Check out both seasons if you haven't yet, extraordinary writing.
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