yo ED, have you read the graphic novel? if not, pick up the compendium. its 1000 pages long and i breezed through it in a few days.

that being said, the storyline in the comic is too quickly paced. you barely get a feel for the characters before theyre devoured, shot, etc.

however i feel like the tv show has the opposite problem. i loved the first season. and the whole highway scene in S02E01 was awesome. but the story in between the opening and the incident at the end just felt like filler to me. it deviates from the comic quite a bit.

plus what was up with all the damn commercials? really distracting.

anyways i thought the season 2 opener was good, but not amazing. i hope its not because frank darabont isn't involved.

regardless, i just want to see the governor. he is by far the most sick, sadistic, and twisted character ive ever read in ANY piece of fiction.

I wasn't a fan of season one, but because it's zombies, I had to tune in for season two.  The premiere had its issues, but I did appreciate the gore factor.  That love triangle is a really, really slow moving storyline, but I'm hoping it will pay off.  Didn't see the ending coming.

But, uh, am I crazy or did they outright reveal in the upcoming highlights that the black guy loses his arm?  Kind of a big deal to just throw out there.

Quoted from Ryan1 But, uh, am I crazy or did they outright reveal in the upcoming highlights that the black guy loses his arm?  Kind of a big deal to just throw out there.

No limb loss in episode two last night.
Though it was briefly discussed.
Then antibiotics the crossbow dude had stashed saved the day.
I guess he found those last season and we're supposed to remember that.

*shrug*

I thought last night's episode was a transparent budget saver.
Way too much searching in the woods with repetitive dialogue.
Plot convenience and contrivances are starting to pile up.
The little girl goes missing, they search, which leads to random attacks.
Those lead to the boy getting shot by a random third party.
That third party just happens to be affiliated with a doctor, etc.

Is it just me, or have we gone nowhere since the RV stopped?
I don't feel like they've furthered the plot or characters much at all.
Thoughts?

E.D.

Quoted from albinopenguin yo ED, have you read the graphic novel? if not, pick up the compendium. its 1000 pages long and i breezed through it in a few days.

Hey Albino,

I did skim the comics, someone gave me the set, up to #70, I think.
The characters didn't grab me, so I tuned out pretty quickly.

I'm glad for the genre that the show is popular.
Hopefully it will open the door for some indie talent to contribute.
But the overall quality of the show, doe snot excite me.

E.D.

to be honest, season 2 isnt doing much for me. i just want them to find that damn girl. she never went missing the comics and its pointless for her to be missing now.

i hate t-dawg. i cringe every time dale says his name. he's not in the comic. furthermore, there's a major character who shouldnt be alive right now. the show is going to have to deal with this sometime soon.

i am happy that they finally made it to herschell's farm. and oh look, it's that psychiatrist from office space.

did anyone catch the breaking bad reference? the hick had some "blue crystal..."

Quoted from Electric Dreamer No limb loss in episode two last night. Though it was briefly discussed. Then antibiotics the crossbow dude had stashed saved the day. I guess he found those last season and we're supposed to remember that. *shrug* I thought last night's episode was a transparent budget saver. Way too much searching in the woods with repetitive dialogue. Plot convenience and contrivances are starting to pile up. The little girl goes missing, they search, which leads to random attacks. Those lead to the boy getting shot by a random third party. That third party just happens to be affiliated with a doctor, etc. Is it just me, or have we gone nowhere since the RV stopped? I don't feel like they've furthered the plot or characters much at all. Thoughts? E.D.

It's sagging badly. Almost turned it over when they went to have a conversation with Jesus for the second time.

The comic doesn;t have a dull moment, but this series is painful to watch.

The problem is that it's not the walking dead...it's just a very long cliched zombie story. It completely misses what made the comics so good...the sense of conflict betwee characters/humans and in particular the internal conflict with Rick Grimes, who may as well not be there.

Very poor adaptation.

Quoted from Electric Dreamer Is it just me, or have we gone nowhere since the RV stopped?

It's not just you.  The plot is treading water right now, not moving forward.  The kid is definitely gonna live, so all this drama centered around that feels like a time waster.  T-Dog's dialogue to DeMunn's character about being the next to go because he's black was an eye-roller.  

And I have to say these zombies aren't coming off as much of a threat.  Here come the zombies, let's hide under a car.  Or kill a couple with a rock.  Or distract an entire horde of them by throwing flares.  Notice how the farmhouse had no protection on the windows or doors?  Their only protection seemed to be the fat guy(doesn't look good for him, btw.)

So yeah, right now it's just a bunch of people standing around, waiting for the plot to get moving again.

They need to kill off like 6 characters in my estimate.  That Japanese kid/guy does nothing... I've only ever seen him say something profoundly stupid and then follow a pack of others away from the scene.  I stopped watching last year, picked back up on the opener this year and couldn't stomach the 2nd episode.  It's horrible.  It's all but as bad as "American Horror Story".  Seriously... it is.  Maybe worse even.

None of the characters seem to have any defining characteristics...the only ones that are interesting to watch are the redneck and the dodgy cop.

They all had well defined roles in the comic...the Chinese kid was the scout/hunter gatherer...they're all just reduced to standing around.

And Rick has been badly miscast and under written.

Shame. All the good stuff in the comic has gone really....been watered down so that it doesn't work.

i have a huge problem with rick's accent. they cast a british actor to portray a southern cop.

anyone else wondering when Tyreese is going to be introduced? he's a pretty substantial character.

and balt, i agree, the chinese kid serves little to no purpose after his initial introduction. he was much more vital in the comics. then again, now that herschell's daughter has been introduced....

when it comes to pacing, i completely agree. its too damn slow. in the comics, its actually a bit too fast. however season 1 was only 6 episodes long. so they crammed A LOT into those six episodes. season 2 is 13 episodes so the creators are taking their time. i have a rising suspicion that they'll preview the governor at the end of season 2 but they wont show him.

I'm watching the third episode of season two.

In a word, tedious.
And I feel like this is the longest stroke off in basic cable history.

Nothing happens on the show, for long periods of time.
Nick of time, trick editing bull crap stands in for genuine suspense.
Even faking the boy's death just to get a rise out of the viewer.
I practically forgot the Asian chap was in the show.

I feel cheated. Stale action choreography.
All the Doctor stuff feels a little too Waltons for my taste.

And I don't buy our villain going all psycho after sacrificing the portly fella.
He's done much worse, why does this push him over the edge?
Felt like at times they were going for a serial killer vibe with the music.
Am I alone on this one?

E.D.

i actually thought the 3rd episode of season 2 was the best episode of the new season. still not as amazing as season 1, but better than s02e01 and s02e02. the hanging zombie was bad ass.

i was surprised they killed off otis. he lives much longer in the comics.

ED, i have no idea what they're doing with Shane. i don't want to spoil anything, but they're taking Shane in an entirely new direction. they're really going back and forth with his character. first he's crazy, and then he's rick's best friend. the show needs to pick a side and stick with it. i hope they're finally realizing this now. i liked how shane wasted otis to save himself. but was it necessary? hmmmm

the big thing about the comic, is that it was incredibly depraved, sick, and daring. it's got that "holy shit" factor. i'm still curious to see if AMC is willing to "go there."

Quoted from albinopenguin i was surprised they killed off otis. he lives much longer in the comics.

That part didn't surprise me one bit.  Fat guy + zombies = all you can eat.  I knew he was never making it out of there.  

At least they're trying to make Shane a somewhat interesting, dimensional character, unlike the rest of them.  Most of the characters on this show, I still couldn't name.  And they're really milking this "look for the girl" "save the boy" storyline.  Three episodes in and not much of anything has happened.  I really hope it picks up.

I was pretty dumbfounded with this weeks episode.
The gory joke at the well was, insulting.
Can't believe we spent so much time on that.
This episode really felt like a total penny pincher.

And what's with the evil shaved head guy sounding like a Sling Blade refugee?
It's one hurdle after another that gets us further away from any kind of plot.

Heck, even feels like their cutting the music budget, cheaply quiet episode.
And crossbow bro is all touchy feely this year, I can't figure this show out.

E.D.

yeah this last episode was pretty pointless. if there was a zombie in a well, and you had FOUR other wells, why wouldnt you just close that well up? furthermore, who wants to drink out of a well in which a zombie's been stewing in for the past 6 months or so? can someone please tell me how glenn got the rope around the zombie in the first place? i was pretty impressed when it fell apart (simply because it looked so gory for television), but it honestly served no point.

and of course we knew lorie was pregnant. but if that wasnt what the guy at the CDC whispered into Rick's ear, then what did he tell him?

a REALLY slow episode. i wonder if they'll ever get off the farm by the end of season 2....

oh and theres something in herschell's barn. they keep hinting at it.