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DarrenJamesSeeley
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By all means, see the film in the 3D mode. The film is near outstanding when it comes to the visual FX and production display. It is, hands down, the best FX of 2010. The planning and execution on this level is nothing short of amazing.

**WARNING**A SPOILER OR TWO**

I have heard however, mixed reviews in regards to the story and the plot holes. I think some of it might be in regards to a deleted scene or two that might fill in a few gaps. But there was one major plot point in the film which had me completely puzzled. It has to do with a flashback where we find out the original alliance between Flynn Sr. Clu and Tron. Gone are the classic 82 Helmets. That's important because we can see heads of hair. So, at a point in the film, a character who is Clu's bodyguard-enforcer is revealed to be a character who otherwise is indistinguishable from other soldiers, and should have the face of his "user" So the question is: why the mystery and what was the point? There also the problem regarding a 'rule' of the Grid itself. Something about a day there is like a minute in the Actual World  or something like that. If that's so, Clu should look older than Flynn Sr.  Or Kevin Flynn should look more 50 than 60.That is more of a nitpick, but if one is part of another (Flynn is the Yin, Clu the yang?) then it should be so, shouldn't it?

The film also takes great pains to take a few rules set in the world of the 82 film and improve them (good thing), have some things stay the same (really good) and contradict others (not so good). One gaffe is the world itself. There are characters who are named or connected modern  (such as Daft Punk as the MP3 DJs- who do a great job overall with the score but NOT in the End Of Line Club as we go a little 'Mortal Kombat' techno style) but Flynn sr. doesn't know about anything on the outside world. One character, Castor, played by Michael Sheen, is over the top and nearly channels Jim Carrey's Riddler. This character will single handedly whisk you out of the film, even with your 3D glasses on.

The film itself runs out of momentum by the time we see Castor's last scene. But the 3D effects are enough to get you by. Garrent Hedlund is okay (but Sam is not exactly a fish out of water) and Olivia Wilde's Quarra steals the show-even when she's sitting down. She is given a dumb line, though, as opposed to something more intelligent later on However, in asking that smart question, the character brings up a plot hole which I wasn't thinking about until that character brought it up. It IS good dialog. It IS good for the character to go that deep. It is also bad she gets you thinking about something which you shouldn't be thinking about.

(It has to do with the sun and why the sun -or more specifically a main overhead light source for "day" is not in a CG world. A philosophical question or an observation on a flawed VR world of "perfection"? You think about it)

Let's talk about Clu and his perfecto world. There is a major flaw in the story in regards to the original. That goes back to the Tron/Bradley issue I brought up earlier. If anyone remembers the first film, then you might remember Cindy Morgan, who played Laura/Yuri. A big plot point of Tron 82 was that Flynn had a thing for Lara, his buddy Alan's girl. Alan, of course, created TRON, a security program. In the VR Grid world of that film, Yuri was Tron's girl. Follow me?
So...if Clu, a part of Flynn, is "evil" and can twist upone hero, why doesn't he take Yari for his own?

Even if Cindi could not reprise Lara, she could have cameoed as Yari *especially* in the flashback. It just nagged at me. Kill her off if you had to. (A program can always be reborn- even Clu is technically "Clu 2")

Will you be able to avoid these questions? If you didn't see the first film, you will be in favorable shape (until Michael Sheen's on screen, anyway) even if most of the zing and zap wear thin after 90 minutes. ('Tis a 2hr film, folks)

I would not mind seeing a Tron 3, The world here could -and should- be more explored.
I'm not disappointed. But I can understand the mixed reaction. I think it's a bit overwriiten. When it hits DVD and Blu, a lot of the luster will be lost, as this needs a BIG SCREEN and the 3D to be totally effective.

I cannot tell you how much I loved the FX and the visuals.
I don't want to say anything more about Micheal Sheen's Castor or how the character of Tron is handled...which reminds me, sadly, what's the name of the movie again? It isn't "Flynn's Legacy", is it?

I might be a bit more forgiving. 95% of the FX were great. (The other 5%, regarding an early scene with a de-aged Bridges, is not that good. It's fine in a CGI world, not in "the real world".


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DarrenJamesSeeley  -  December 20th, 2010, 9:28pm
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I think Tron blows; well, the movie "Tron" blows, Tron just wields dual discs.
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It wasn't a horrible movie, it just relied too much on the imagery/visuals like most Hollywood films. A surprisingly boring film, with a weak script, hollow characters, flat exposition for dialogue, but hey, the visuals FAWKING ROCK!

So I guess I'll give it a 6.5/10.
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I enjoyed it, mainly because of the visuals. I was never a particularly big fan of the original, so any continuity errors don't bother me.

Only problem with it really was the sagging middle, which seems to be becoming a staple of big budget films..stretched out as they are to two hours plus.

Modern filmmakers seem to generally resort to filling the screen with repetetive CGI rather than using it to create more depth in the story and characters and for me it got tired in the middle.

Visually beautiful though and surely one of the better reboots of a film. They seemed to actually make an attempt to make a decent film and it showed for me despite the weaknesses.
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The one definite WOW factor here? The score. It got a download as soon as I had finished watching the film. I'm always harping on about how a score can add that extra emotion to propel a single scene or the entire film to another level. It can be that powerful. The most skilled filmmakers utilise all the elements to bring a story alive. In addition, the visuals here were actually stunning. I wish I'd seen it on the big screen. It's one of the very few films to have left me open mouthed at times with its beauty. Not since Brokeback Mountain have I enjoyed the cinematography so much.

It's not surprising - considering this is a screenwriter website - that we often place far too much importance on the script alone. Sure, it's almost impossible to overcome a terrible script but it's just one element. You can never ignore the power of an actor bringing their own interpretation and owning a role (that in itself is governed by CDs, producers, directors) and that can be a process of sheer luck. Then you look at the importance of the cinematography, the skill of developing sets/locations that help tell the story, the score in shaping mood, the editing team to shape the pace, etc etc. Film is truly a collaborative process and its value comes from all along the supply chain. The reason I note this, is because the script here had some inherent flaws and for my money, it was the value brought by the whole crew that stopped it becoming a so-so film. For us lot, it just shows how much emphasis should be placed on selling the vision of your script and ensuring people buy into that vision, so you can work from the same page.

Whatever you do, download the Daft Punk score. You will not regret it.


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