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Scar Tissue Films
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 1:44pm Report to Moderator
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All I saw was the wolf dying.

I never noticed Ottway in the shot.


Weirdly according to this it shows them both, but Ottway is still alive:

"After the credits there is an extra scene that shows Ottway (Liam Neeson) still alive and laying beside the wolf."


http://www.mediastinger.com/the-grey-2012-extra-scene-after-the-credits/

Most people seem to say that it shows Ottway lying his head on the wolf as it dies. So he won the fight and must have been alive to lie on top of it....but I don't know.
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
All I saw was the wolf dying.

I never noticed Ottway in the shot.


Weirdly according to this it shows them both, but Ottway is still alive:

"After the credits there is an extra scene that shows Ottway (Liam Neeson) still alive and laying beside the wolf."


http://www.mediastinger.com/the-grey-2012-extra-scene-after-the-credits/

Most people seem to say that it shows Ottway lying his head on the wolf as it dies. So he won the fight and must have been alive to lie on top of it....but I don't know.



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I too only saw the wolf at the end, but my wife saw Ottway in the shot. I'll need to revisit it.

Ottway did say earlier in the movie, when there was a challenge on the Alpha male at night and the survivors listened to the killing of the old alpha male (or the challenger) that whoever won the fight would be the leader. I guess by Ottway killing the alpha male, then the rest of the wolves will not attack him and he can walk out of the woods alive.

My thoughts anyways.


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Scar Tissue Films
Posted: February 13th, 2012, 2:00pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from MacDuff



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I too only saw the wolf at the end, but my wife saw Ottway in the shot. I'll need to revisit it.

Ottway did say earlier in the movie, when there was a challenge on the Alpha male at night and the survivors listened to the killing of the old alpha male (or the challenger) that whoever won the fight would be the leader. I guess by Ottway killing the alpha male, then the rest of the wolves will not attack him and he can walk out of the woods alive.

My thoughts anyways.


I concur.

It's a parallel to an earlier scene when he shot the wolf and stayed with it whilst it died.

From a simple story point of view, I suspect it's supposed to show he's survived...because the default position as the film ended was that he was doomed.

The next scene would normally reverse that value.

And they built in the "get out" that by killing the Alpha they'd leave him alone.

I'm taking it like that anyway...think it's a better ending.

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I'm pretty sure the ending was left open for the sequel...The Grey 2: Who Done Shot My Paw?

and yes, that was an Air Bud reference. off to stick my head in the microwave!


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Neeson's head was indeed resting on the wolf as it took its last breaths.  One alpha vs. another.  

But there's no need to hypothesize what happened, because here's the ending of the film, just substitute an Irishman for the Scotsman.

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Let that be a lesson to me.

I'll have to wait until I see that last image, but it sounds powerful.

Does seem a little at odds (if he lives) with the wallet prepping. Then again, I guess thathis God's answer to 'do something'.


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Let that be a lesson to me.

I'll have to wait until I see that last image, but it sounds powerful.

Does seem a little at odds (if he lives) with the wallet prepping. Then again, I guess thathis God's answer to 'do something'.


No God in this film Andrew!

If he survives it's simply because he stabbed the wolf to death before it could finish him off!
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I saw "The Grey" yesterday after it was finally released, seems we were behind everybody else.

This is an action-survival film that has some excellent stand alone scenes, the acting was good and I even thought the wolves were brilliantly done. Not everyone will like the wolves’ element here but I found myself truly gripped every time they made an appearance especially at the cinema viewing.

I must say that this movies experience is far better on the big screen; you can’t match the sound here at home. The tension built by the wolves howls in the darkness, a plane crash that feels like you’re on the damn plane, the hustling winds that make you zip up your jacket, truly great.

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The plane crash was awesome, no doubt about it, but also quick mentions for the wolves appearance in the night with those green wicked eyes, loved that scene. Others would be the heartfelt death scene for a man after the plane crash and the death of Talget(think that’s right) His death was an emotion and horrifying in the same scene, visualising is daughter before the dreaded wolves chime in and drag him away.

I did enjoy the ending though missing the final showdown fell a bit flat with me (BTW, do planes use glass bottles anymore? Thought it was plastic but maybe it depends on the airline?) I thought the wallet scene was a touching moment, a nice way to finish.

Yes, Liam Neeson does seem immune to hypothermia but I didn’t let it bother me as I was focusing on when the wolves next act of rage would be.

All in all a great experience, I thoroughly enjoyed my first visit to the cinema this year.

P.S All I saw in the final scene was the wolf which I assumed was taking its last breaths like a wolf earlier in the movie, hence meaning Ottway survives.
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I saw the movie. It was just 'ok' to me. There were a lot of unanswered questions.

The plane crash was great...but not one of the guys had or said anything about a cell phone. One of the guys finds a watch off one of the dead guys ..but strange in this day and time ..no cell phones.

The wolves looked scary but not real to me.

Then there was one part where they risk their lives to get across this giant river to get away from the wolves, but somehow after surviving and making it to the other side(well most of them)...the same pack of wolves are there still after them.

Neeson also had words about trying to get as far away from the den as they could, then they ironically end up in the den..even though they are on the other side of cliffs and the huge river.

It was a decent movie but it wasn't one that I got all excited about. I liked the trailers and wanted to see it, but to be honest I was a lil let down.

I'll see SAFE  HOUSE this weekend..hope it's better
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I'm mixed on this one.
Lots of great execution marred by inconsistencies.
And it's because of all the good stuff that I wanted the rest to track.

Still, this is a very un-Hollywood film and I'm glad it's a mild hit.
The wolves were some of the best presented on narrative film.
But, there are plenty of logic gaps that don't add up.
If I forget my past lupine experiences, I can mostly enjoy the film.

IMO, this is Carnahan's best film since "Narc".
And I believe this is far and away his most savagely beautiful film by far.

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Now streaming on Netflix.

Another one I was really looking forward to that I missed at the cinema.  Another one with solid reviews that I couldn't wait to see.  Another complete and utter disappointment for me.

Damn...was this thing ever dull and slow.  An hour and 57 minutes running time honestly seemed like over 3 hours.  Thinking back, I see why, as this is actually a very, VERY small movie with very little going on.  I wonder how many minutes were taken up with Flashbacks, dreams, V.O.'s, or just minutes on end of nothing happening at all.

I can obviously see that this is a polarizing movie in which some will love the fact that it's not what it's made out to be, while the others will hate it for exactly that.  I'm in the latter camp and actually gave this only 2 stars on the Netflix rating - dislike.

For me, the plane crash was not all that, and in reality, was a good example of how to pull off a big cost scene very cheaply.  Actually, pretty much everything came across as rather cheap and small to me.  Nothing seemed real, decisions were often foolish, and even the beautiful BC wilderness didn't impress.

I've seen a number of such movies and read many more.  This was shockingly by the numbers for me, even though it definitely did come off as very non Hollywood.  One by one, every 10 or so minutes, another unfortunate survivor gets picked off by the pack, does something stupid to get himself killed, or just flat out gives up.  The only surprise for me was the lack of a finale and that's not going down as ballsy film making in my book...more like a cop out and a missed opportunity for what we were all waiting for.

I didn't think any characters were well developed.  I didn't think any characters were overly likable.  I'm surprised they went with an R rating here, when in reality, they easily could have avoided it by axing 10 or 11 "fucks" and a few "shits".  The violence was not graphic.  The tone really wasn't even scary.

As others have commented, there are many completely unrealistic situations and scenes and for me, this really dragged the movie down the shitter, but at least Carnahan and crew attempted a little bit of action, cuz otherwise, this was one of the bigger snoozefests I've seen recently that calls itself an action film.

Very disappointed.  Very surprised.  Very, very bored.
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Can't believe you hated this so, Jeff. I will give you boring, but this was an emotionally charged film for me.

My only gripe would be that I thought these fellows could've given the wolves a better show. They only killed one.

And they were never Grey to me. Solid black, like the Alpha Liam gets ready to throw down with at the end.

I think this entire story was built to set up the ending, which I'm a huge fan of. But, can see how you found the ride there boring.

It just left an impression with me. I can't explain it, but I won't forget it.

James


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