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I'm not downloading, certainly not redistributing. Merely clicking on youtube or some similar site. And I'm not rationalizing it, but it's the only way I can view the film at the moment.
Very seldom do I watch the whole film. I just look for certain things. Simply can't afford to buy them all. And while I make no attempt to justify the activity, I don't think it rises to the level of piracy. We're talking about a youtube viewing or something similar, after all.
If you are going to be that self righteous on this, I trust this level of ethical judgment applies to all of your other activity.
Very seldom do I watch the whole film. I just look for certain things. Simply can't afford to buy them all. And while I make no attempt to justify the activity, I don't think it rises to the level of piracy. We're talking about a youtube viewing or something similar, after all.
If you are going to be that self righteous on this, I trust this level of ethical judgment applies to all of your other activity.
You're still watching illegal movies. And I sincerly doubt you can defend your actions with 'educational purposes.'
Me and Don will just go live in our happy little yurt watchin' movies and the only time you'll ever see us again is when we stick our arms out the window to flip ya'll off.
So there.
I did, on Janet's recommendation, watch "Grave Encounters". I found both films to be quite similar in many, many respects. Namely the pacing - long slow start building up to a frenetic ending with a twist. GE's twist ending I thought was telegraphed half an hour prior to the end, tho. I thought the acting was adequate on both. I strongly suspect that huge chunks of the dialogue on both films was ad libbed. Both were entertaining. I liked "The Frankenstein Theory" slightly more because I liked the idea and the payoff was out of left field and satisfying. I am not a fan of Ghost Hunters type entertainment, but despite that, GE held my attention.
You guys are pretty ridiculous. There was absolutely no need for an argument with this. I'm not averse to a good donnybrook now and again, as you know, but does every single issue have to be turned into a battle?
Ok. I'll play if I have to.
I have not "defended" watching illegal movies. Never have. When the issue of pirating came up in a thread months ago, I was clearly not on the side of pirating.
But if you guys are going to get sanctimonious about what's legal and not...do you smoke weed? Do you claim all income on tax returns? If someone gave you something in exchange for services, say something for coverage reads, do you claim on tax returns? Do you only cross streets in crosswalks? Do you sneak coffee into the movies?
You get the idea. People put videos on youtube and similar sites. I don't download them. They can be watched until youtube removes them. What I am doing is legal. The person posting the video is breaking the law.
I can't believe you guys don't have better stuff to do than to start a war over this. Couldn't we find something more interesting to battle over?
But if you guys are going to get sanctimonious about what's legal and not...do you smoke weed? Do you claim all income on tax returns? If someone gave you something in exchange for services, say something for coverage reads, do you claim on tax returns? Do you only cross streets in crosswalks? Do you sneak coffee into the movies?
No. Yes. N/A. No. No.
Jaywalking and piracy are apples and oranges, btw. And silly to bring up. You, I'm sure, know that.
I can't believe you guys don't have better stuff to do than to start a war over this. Couldn't we find something more interesting to battle over?
I think this is very interesting and relevant to who we are. SR got bitchslapped for it; INTS got bitchslapped for it. I hope you appreciate the irony of your actions.
I did, on Janet's recommendation, watch "Grave Encounters". I found both films to be quite similar in many, many respects.
I watched GE too because of this thread. I found it superior to Frankenstein Theory in every way. Neither film had any memorable characters, IMO, but GE shits and gets. I was sincerely creeped out by a couple of scenes. That's not easy to do to me.
I just wish the monster in Frankenstein Theory spoke. They could've made him so much creepier. Imagine him whispering to his soon to be bride through the boards of the yurt before he kills anyone. Creep factor is upped by 10.
I just wish the monster in Frankenstein Theory spoke. They could've made him so much creepier. Imagine him whispering to his soon to be bride through the boards of the yurt before he kills anyone. Creep factor is upped by 10.
I agree with you here. As I mentioned, I think they patterned "The Monster" after the Frankenstein movie rather than after Shelly's creature in the novel.
Janet, somehow I got it in my head that you liked The Awakening, which I watched. Don
Hey Don -
Actually, I've never seen the Awakening. Thanks alot - NOW it's on my radar.
Thanks for giving GE a go. I'm not a huge FF fan, but of the ones I've seen, GE is the top of my list. As discussed, it's not terribly original...but it delivers the scares and the creeps well, nonetheless. (I'm not a watcher of Ghost Hunters, either...)
As for other recommended horrors that you *may* not have seen. How's about The Changeling and Jacob's Ladder? Two of my favorites! (Though I haven't seen them in many years, and my tastes may have changed since then. I'd have to revisit to be sure...)
I saw The Awakening on Netflix. I thought it was pretty good until the ending when the 'secrets' are revealed. The suck-o-meter on my television caught fire at that point.
Decided to check out both The Frankenstein Theory and Grave Encounters just to see what all the fuss was about. I didn't hate either one but both felt like the same old shit. This one reminded me of Trollhunter while GE reminded me of REC.
I think I enjoyed GE more because I dug the setting, the time/space distortion, and just the fact that there was more going on. Unfortunately, the stupid parts were stupider and the scares were generic and lame. It also has no place in a world where Session 9 exists. The Frankenstein Theory started off pretty strong but showed itself to be not so much slow paced as just uneventful. I also gotta say the team had some of the wimpiest, most crybaby crew members ever. Dudes better not quit their day jobs.
So yeah. Good and bad between the both of them. Frankenstein probably irked me more for the sake that there was a promise of giant walruses that was not met.
EDIT: Also, what was up with the random black guy in the beginning that they almost hit with their car? I swear, fake scares need to be retired from horror movies forever. They kinda just make me want to slap the director in the mouth.
I'm a huge fan of found footage films for some reason, apart from the two most famous ones...Paranormal Activity and Blair Witch, both of which I found laughable.
I'm also a huge fan of Frankenstein. Mainly stories in which he's involved, rather than films...but still.
So I was pretty looking forward to this. I thought the premise was gold. It started off well with the student believer, and the meth head.
It was slow, but I thought once the monster showed up we'd be really onto something...but it just never went anywhere. Very poor kills with no suspense or feeling of dread or horror.
It picked up for about a minute when we went to night vision for a kill...that stuff just always seems to work, whichever film it's in.
The ending made sense extra textually...in terms of the classic Frankenstein's monster, but had no real power in the story the film told.
Yeah, really wasted premise and that's a shame. It could have been incredibly dark and creepy meeting the monster. It could have been a really interesting and intense film, but it never even got close.
I sort of feel like someone needs to do a blatant rip off of it, just to make it into the film it should have been.