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Don't get me wrong, I understand the risk with it. I think it boils down to when someone says don't do X because Y will happen, and Y is bad, I have that urge to do X just so I can see myself what Y is like. If that makes sense? But to clarify, I mean more like X is 'don't press that button' rather than X is 'don't murder' or something. I'm not a psycho. Curiosity might be the word I'm looking for.


I believe anything can be done right if it's in the right hands.

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I understand. I'm just pointing out it isn't as effective as some people make it out to be. Sure it can cause damage and sure it can work. But its effectiveness is overstated. You can't rely on that.

In order to bite someone you would need to close the distance on them and really impose your physical will on them.


That's not true. I've seen a smaller guy bite a much larger guy's eyebrow clean off. After that the guy didn't want to fight anymore. This is a true story. I even know the little guy's name. A mixed race kid, proud of the fact he was diagnosed schizophrenic. He was 21 years old, around 5 7, 11 stone... the guy he hit was over 6ft, easily 15-16 stone in his late 30s. The big guy was a drug dealer, the little guy was robbing him. Little guy took a punch to the head, launched himself in the air and bit the guy's eyebrow off.

I'm not sure that you're thinking of the same thing I am when I think of biting... as I've seen it be very effective at least twice. There have been others where things haven't been exactly clear, but for the eyebrow I had a front row seat. I also know from experience that when blood is pouring into your eye, you cannot see and are just a sitting duck anyway. I had a fight once where the guy's razor sharp knuckles split my eyebrows and blood was pouring into my face. The fight was over from there.


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Realistically if someone knows how to fight, they will not let you do this with ease. They will resist, try to hit you, clinch, wrestle you, knee you and so on. Also just biting someone isn't that damaging, you'll need to go for the ears or nose, because they are cartilage and you can rip those off and really do damage.


Nobody will let you do anything with ease unless it's a beat down and not a fight. Like I say, clinches don't happen much in my country unless friends or people not used to fighting are getting it on. Usually it's a slug fest until one guy hits the floor. There are unspoken rules, one of those is you don't bite. However, there are people that don't play by the rules and will be naturally more violent.


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It can work, not saying it can't. But if lets say a wrestler takes you down and you try to bite him, considering he has a dominate position on you and is on top, you can expect that he is going to knee you in the liver, ribs or head. And in honestly if one of those lands clean, you're pretty much done.


Most of the time one wouldn't be fighting a wrestler. But I would expect anyone with a dominant position, landing a knee to the head, to go on to win. In real fights, people are rarely of equal weight. I don't think UFC gives an accurate representation of a real fight. It has rules and weight classes, even skillsets are measured fairly equally through the contenders lists.


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So it's not as easy as just "I'm gonna bite someone". In most instances it will just not work again someone that knows what he's doing and knows not to panic in those situations. People exaggerate and think the stuff you can do in a street fight you can just do in a fight against a professional fighter and he won't know how to react. When in reality these are people that fight for a living. They train 8 hours a day. They can also bite, punch your throat, gouge your eyes and so on if they wanted to. If they're desperate they go to what they need in order to survive, just as a street fighter would do.


Not quite sure how we got from talking about realistic fights to an amateur fighting a pro... but I agree with you.


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I remember I read a discussion on some forum a few years back where people were arguing that the British inmate Bronson would beat a top level MMA fighter in a prison fight. Which is just a ridiculous and ignorant claim.


Prison fights are generally handled with weapons or surprise attacks. Aside from that I'm not sure how they would differ from any other street fight. In that regard, any trained fighter has an advantage of someone that isn't.
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