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The more I think about this flick, the more pissed off I am.
QT always has a certain type of humor in his scripts and films that works for most, but here, it was very odd to me. Jennifer Jason Leigh's character was a prime example. The way she acted throughout the flick was downright strange...most likely supposed to be funny, but to me, it came off so unrealistically. Same with Roth's character to a lesser degree.
The dialogue exchanges were mostly so stilted, they didn't seem real. Peeps do not talk like this. Peeps did not talk like this. Everything was so artificially setup. The banter was so long winded and just downright fake.
Finally, the mood and tone were off here throughout the entire flick. Yeah, yeah, trust me, I know...pretty much all of QT's stuff is like this, but here, it just didn't work. Maybe because the characters didn't really have the life most QT characters do. Maybe it was the fact that we basically had only 2 settings - the stagecoach and the haberdashery.
I don't really know, but I do know this - I will not be watching this again...as in ever again, as I just don't see any reason why I would want to waste another 3 hours waiting for a payoff that never arrives.
Don't feel bad Jeff... during the movie, my husband wanted to leave more than once....but I made him sit through it..The dialogue felt like I'd heard it before and he is good at dialogue but it just seemed to go on and on and go nowhere.
I think part of the problem was asking an audience to sit in a theater watching a contained movie that was way too long IMO.
It did get my interest towards the end but not until the flashback started and even then I felt like I'd been there before ...the whole under the floor thing felt like Inglorious Bastards. I just wanted something FRESH from him ya know? I like QT...just wanted more. I won't be watching it again either.
I've literally never walked out of a theater before, but I was very close on Killing Me Softly a couple years back and shockingly, I was thinking about it with this one.
I decided there was no way i could, though, as i thought something awesome was going to happen in the end, but sadly, it never did.
I've been a long time fan, so I was rather looking forward to this.
Lordy, it took a long time to get going. There was talking, the odd thump, more talking, then hey, more babble. That would have been fine, but most of this dialogue wasn't half as good as his usual stuff.
I think you could easily lose anywhere from a half hour to a full one from the start. I get why he did it, but he did it too much. I was very bored by the time it did finally get going. But it took a hell of a long time to get there.
Once it did get going it got good quick, and stayed that way. I've no qualms with it after that. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Pity it took so long to finally get into gear. Somewhat like me when I'm squeezing into my spandex bodysuit. Reminds me, must remember to buy some talcum powder.
An hour and a half into the movie I walked out to take a shit. Ussually I would hold on to it, but I knew I wouldnt miss anlnything. And I didn't. All I missed was great actors talking about shit I don't give a fuck about. I wanted to scream out to the cinema "somebody fucking shoot someone!"
Does anybody agree with me that it was a terriblely boring movie? Although the dialogue was witty and somewhat clever in parts, it doesn't make talking for 3 hours fun. If I wanted to go listen to people talk for 3 hours I would sit in on a lecture at the local university.
Does anybody agree with me that it was a terriblely boring movie? Although the dialogue was witty and somewhat clever in parts, it doesn't make talking for 3 hours fun. If I wanted to go listen to people talk for 3 hours I would sit in on a lecture at the local university.
Opinions people?
Yes, it was terribly boring, poorly structured, poorly plotted, and overall very weak.
I haven't seen this yet, so it's not really fair for me to comment, but Tarantino's films have been self-indulgently long - too long - for years now. Django Unchained is 165 minutes. Inglourious Basterds is 153 minutes. Kill Bill is 247 minutes (albeit cut in two). This is just the first time people have really noticed.
I haven't seen this yet, so it's not really fair for me to comment, but Tarantino's films have been self-indulgently long - too long - for years now. Django Unchained is 165 minutes. Inglourious Basterds is 153 minutes. Kill Bill is 247 minutes (albeit cut in two). This is just the first time people have really noticed.
I don't think the length has anything to do with it. The problem is that a big chunk of this film is a historical debate. North vs South. I saw a few interviews Tarantino did and he made a point to say in a few of them how proud he was of Walton Goggins speech in the beginning of the film how he presented a good point about the South.
I do think this film is self-indulgent. Like you said a lot of his other one are too, but they were also better than this one.
Missed out on Hate8 in theatres, just saw it on video. I will always give Quentin Tarintino a chance, because i loved Res Dogs, adored Pulp Fiction and yes, Jackie Brown, in my view was his best work ever. I liked KB p2 better than KB part 1, and when it was spliced together I didn't care for it as a whole, although I always liked the dialog. Hated Death Proof. Did not care one iota for Ingloruis. I had mixed reaction to Django.
But for the most part, there's always something for me to hang my hat on. Except maybe for Death Proof. Anyway...
My God was this long in the tooth. Plus I started to get uneasy about John Ruth smacking around his prisoner Daisy. At first I suspected it was to get the audience to dislike John Ruth, and have some sympathy for Daisy, but then she was rude, crass and as the film progresses, will have more bruises, more cuts and have her brother's brains all over her face. And I was in shock that I lasted that long with the film.
John Ruth not trusting anyone and engaging in conversation with each took way too long for me. The entire story between Sanford Smithers son and Warren .
I liked the coffee poison scene though, and I thought Jackson and Groggins, while the early banter was grating, thet turned out to be the highlights of the film for me overall. But yes, I think Hateful Eight was too long and annoying overall.
That said, I'd still be interested (as always) what Tarintino would do next.
Missed out on Hate8 in theatres, just saw it on video. I will always give Quentin Tarintino a chance...
That said, I'd still be interested (as always) what Tarintino would do next.
Have to agree with most of what you said above. Although I was under the impression his name is Tarantino. I may be wrong. Nope, I just checked. Sorry about that.
I too will always watch whatever he puts out next, usually at the cinema too. That is unless he starts doing Hostel stuff. I'm not watching that cack for love nor money. Or even both.
There was talk, from him I mean, of him only doing ten movies. I think he conveniently forgets the Grindhouse stuff and his section of Four Rooms, as they'd put him a lot closer to ten than he'd like. He probably counts Kill Bill as one and misses Jackie Brown out as it wasn't a big enough hit, sorry, he didn't write it I mean.
Like many directors, his later films aren't as good as his early stuff. Nevertheless, the guy has made some truly amazing movies already. For that alone I will always be interested in what he is doing next.
Funnily enough...the post I made above was before I saw the film.
I thought it was an all time classic...easily his best since Jackie Brown. It had a nastily sagging middle, and I would have preferred a cleverer story than that they were all in on it....but other than that it was great.