I didn't see much new from the trailer to get excited about and sure enough... Suspicion confirmed. At 800mil to break even, this will be a hard climb.

The people I shared the theatre with wanted to clap during this, but one could just sense the disappointment.

I'll say spoiler now, but the whole movie is spoiled like old milk. Wait till you get a whiff of the plot holes. The entire first hour moves without focus establishing Batlek's hatred for Superman (who by the way, tried his best acting job to save this liquid feces of a story) only to have him give up his thirst for revenge just cuz Superman mentions his mothers name.

They take useless bad guys, make em terrorists,  but instead of a nuclear bomb being smuggled, it's kryptonite. Then there's the final monster that Luthor creates almost instantly by himself... yeah,  he makes it from his own blood and the dead body of Zod... comeon peoples.

I won't be seeing Gal Gadot's version of Wonder Woman either if it doesn't get a really good review. This movie was recycled shit with nothing new to offer.

Don't waste your time and money.

The thing that bothers me the most which I don't want to happen is people blame Ben Affleck, he did a great job, he is Batman, he is Bruce Wayne. Same thing for Superman and Gal Gadot. Even the minor roles were casted well, the only suspected one was Jesse as Lex and that just preference.

But, god damn ZACH SNYDER made a mess of things. My suspicions were confirmed in why if this film wasn't as good as it should of been it would be the man and the helm. I'm not fan of CGI and when you stake your "directing" career on it, you questionable because it's about the STORY. He's seriously getting closer and closer to Michel Bay.

I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. There was good material. Sloppy, sloppy execution and the writers are blameless either

BLB

The only ones who showed up to work were the ACTORS...

BLB

Afleck didn't do anything special for Batman. But he didn't fuck it up, either. As far as Wayne, he was kinda watered-down as the playboy.  Now if Einsberg put on the suit and pulled it off... that would have been something. Lol. Whoever thought to make him Luthor should be examined closely.

If you haven't seen this yet, do not forget the name "Martha". It's super duper important.

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Nothing in this film was earned. Nothing. Even inanimate objects couldn't pull it off. Affleck was the only one who came close, probably because Zack Snyder took the time at start of this insulting boondoggle to give Bruce Wayne's perspective of the events at the end of Man of Steel. Still, it's amazing how Snyder still managed to fuck that up too with horrible "I can't feel my legs!" dialogue from a pointless character who provides one of the most shocking and riveting moments of the film. Confused yet?

Yes, the best idea comes from a genius plan by Lex Luthor to put Superman in the spotlight of a terrorist attack. Finally! One hour in, and I felt like I was getting what I wanted... Nope. The whole idea wasn't just forgotten; it was abandoned and replaced by a way to justify the Batman v Superman title.

If you're a comic buff, you'll recognize the imagery instantly. Especially the final sequence. That said, I believe whomever is calling the shots on this DC universe might want to consider other options.

Batman v Superman is worse than terrible.

Quoted from oJOHNNYoNUTSo Batman v Superman is worse than terrible.

Oooh. There's a post ending which hit home hard. My judgement for this movie is still reserved. However, I doubt my enthusiam is at the same level as it was not long ago.

JN is one of the sharper tools in the box. But if he ever says the same thing he did about some film I make in the future, he shall no longer get any biscuits with his tea in my house. I can't remember if he takes sugar, I may accidently add one spoon too many.

R

@ Ren

There are many, many more reasons BvS should've never been. It makes Batman & Robin look like it tried. Snyder goes for a literal graphic novel pace without putting "meanwhile..." in a text box across the screen.

I enjoyed Sucker Punch because I considered it a love letter to Heavy Metal. This one is an insult to folks who know the material (when it finally sinks in, they'll be pissed), and moviegoers who just wanted to have fun.

Everyone should see this movie only because it feels like you're witnessing a crime in progress, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

I didn't agree with it when Batman and Superman met in the comics either, and I refused to read them. I tended to avoid Superman anyway... aside from the edition where he got killed. That one was worth the read if only to see Superman finally meet his match.

I preferred the darker Batman comics and, as I got older and graphic novels became a thing, they got darker and darker.

I don't think any of the Batman films have come close to how dark Batman should really be.

Quoted from DustinBowcot I didn't agree with it when Batman and Superman met in the comics either, and I refused to read them. I tended to avoid Superman anyway... aside from the edition where he got killed. That one was worth the read if only to see Superman finally meet his match.

Dustin, you need to see this - soley based on your knowledge of the comics. I've read the above too, so I'd like to hear your take.

I'm not going to trash this as much as some. There was some effort here. Batman is by far and away my favorite comic book character so my opinion may be a bit jaded.

I didn't like the idea of this from the conception. Superman is so ridiculously powerful and indestructible, that you can be a thousand times smarter than him and it wouldn't even matter... Unless you have kryptonite.

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And this went the only way it could've. Batman having a chance to end him and then stopping. I didn't buy into why he did. He was so convinced Superman needed to go he was willing to die for it.

The courtroom scene was pretty inventive, though. That caught me by surprise. And I thought Affleck did a decent job as the Dark knight.

Doomsday was a joke. Just another mindless monster that wants to destroy everything for no rhyme or reason.

I don't listen to critics on movies like this. If you're a fan you should go see it. If you're not, save your money. I miss Nolan already and he was an executive producer on this. Not sure he's going to get a good return on his investment.

James

I thought it was dumb entertainment.
I went in with low expectations, not really a comic fan or superhero fanatic, but I was never bored.
I was a little confused by some scenes that just seemed to come out of nowhere and lead to nothing. A few character decisions/choices/motivation kept me interested to see where they would go, but, again, they never really went anywhere.
I'd see it again, but I would not pay for it. I enjoyed it a lot more than the last Batman movie and Man Of Steel, but I was constantly wondering "Why is he/she doing this? What's the point? There is an easier way of sorting this out! What was that? Who is this swimming dude? Why am I seeing this? What relevance does this have? He stopped because of that? Etc."
The ending was a bit of a surprise, maybe a point grabber for me.
So, first viewing, I'd give it 6/10.


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I don't think they developed any character at all. I mean, Superman was awful in Man Of Steel. The guy took out half a city's population, we never saw him do too many great things to save the innocent and he was constantly moping around.
In this film, I think we see a couple of examples of how good he is, but they are on news reels or quick scenes. There are no classic "Superman Saves Plane from crashing" or "Superman saves someone from disaster" awesome moments, they're just very brief , no satisfying set up or payoff. Plus, the city seems 50/50 on whether they like the guy or not. So why, when he's "dead", is everyone in Metropolis mourning this dude? In the space of 2 years, he's brought about thousands and thousands of deaths in the same city if you add the carnage caused in Man Of Steel and this one. I would have thought the majority might be thinking "Thanks god, all this alien guy has done is cause chaos to our city. Now we might have some peace."
Batman is pretty cool in this, but way underdeveloped. He's pretty one-note.

Also, can anyone explain to me how Superman had a conversation with his dead father in the Antarctic? Was this a hallucination or is this nodding to comic book lore? Plus, I had the same issues with Man Of Steel, Superman just turns up at the exact time Lois is in danger, or vice versa. I mean it was ridiculous, even in the old movies they never made it that silly.

Quoted from jwent6688 I'm not going to trash this as much as some. There was some effort here... James

There's a lot more to your post, James (or Jwentetc) than I quoted above.

I read it all, as you know what you're doing. I'll be bearing what you said in mind as the day me and some others who need picking up (Aren't some people cheeky?) to go to see this film.

Or, perhaps I might have to wait for the DVD. Or not. It'll be on telly on rotation in a year or two. When it does it will be hard to avoid.

Keep it up.

R

It was stupid how Batman forgave Superman at the sound of the name Martha and was just like "You're mum has the same name as mine? Maaan, we're totally sweet now, I completely forgot why I was trying to kill you"

Quoted from BSaunders It was stupid how Batman forgave Superman at the sound of the name Martha and was just like "You're mum has the same name as mine? Maaan, we're totally sweet now, I completely forgot why I was trying to kill you"

Yeah have read about that on a lot of reviews.

If one of us did that in a script on here, we'd be laughed out of town.

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This was a movie filled with great ideas, most of which don’t quite work out. It borrowed elements from several iconic comics without really giving them the rich backstory of these comics. The exception was Batman, they did a great job there. Wonder Woman showed a lot of promise but was only in it briefly. Superman, I can see why Snyder is going for this approach, as it is different from the other incarnations of the character and I could see people of this planet looking at him as some sort of deity figure. This worked really well with Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen but it doesn’t work the same way here. The problem is they can’t quite out what to do with him or give Superman and Clark enough screen time to get anything across effectively. Either he’s a disassociated alien with god-like powers, or he’s a guy with feelings and a huge burden of responsibility. They try to do both and it doesn’t quite work.

Lex, again I can see why they chose this route. The young social media founder type with sociopathic tendencies is a different portrayal of Lex and certainly modernises the character. Again though, it doesn’t quite work.  He ends up sounding like an annoying brat and not an evil genius, or even someone who could run such a huge company. He seems more like someone who made his money inventing apps and rarely strays from his bedroom. His ‘plan’ to turn the world against Superman and get him to fight Batman was a good one but he’s backup plan seemed like something added on by the executives last minute, just to get Doomsday in. If Batman had taken care of Superman, Lex would have unleashed Doomsday on the world and probably ended up destroying it. Considering he was doing all this because he was afraid Superman would turn on us seems ridiculous. He had no way of dealing with Doomsday if Superman died. We are supposed to think it’s because ‘he’s crazy’ well that type of crazy would have got him locked up or killed years ago.

The Doomsday fight was a good mechanism to bring them all together, as they needed something to unite them, but it looks more like a PS4 game intro sequence than a realistic fight scene.

The movie could have done with (a lot) more humour. The team working on the DC side of things seems to have trouble balancing the different tones such tales require, whereas Marvel make it look easy in comparison.

Still, despite the complaints I did enjoy it. It was worth watching for Louis’s bath scene alone. I hear the Blu-Ray version will be a longer, harder cut. I expect to see nipples in that one from both her and Clark.