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Dreamscale
Posted: December 6th, 2016, 10:17pm Report to Moderator
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I'm up to speed and extremely confused, if nothing more.

So...we're to believe that Jimmy Simpson and Ed Harris are the same person?  Which means that the first season we all watched contained loops and snippets for some 35/40 years?  WTF?

I actually liked the very final, and loved the hidden scene after the credits, but boy oh berto, am I ever confused.
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SPOILERS AHEAD

Yes, there's been some clever (and a bit naughty) editing used to misdirect the viewer. Doloris and William's adventures were in the past, decades before. The older man in black is William now, still searching for something unique and real in this artificial world.

I'm not sure if Doloris made a conscious choice to shoot Ford, or if Ford programmed her to do so. He deliberately left her (and commented on) the gun she used to shoot Arnold, drawing her towards a conclusion he knew she would follow. Certainly the 'zombie' host uprising was programmed.

I have a sneaky suspicion the only actual 'real' conscious choice we saw in this season was Maeve's decision to get off the train and go searching for her daughter.

I loved this show, not so much for the twists (which were good) but more for the themes explored. It will be interesting to see where they go from here. The Samurai Hosts suggests an Eastworld perhaps? If so, this could be free from the current uprising and separate adventures could continue here. As far as Westorld goes, it will be difficult to see how they will progress. The outside world will never stand for a host uprising, so there will be an attempt at all out extermination of the hosts, unless they can block entry and stay 'powered on' somehow.  

I do know this. If an unknown had written these scripts they would have been chucked in the trash. Not because they are bad, no quite the opposite, I think they are brilliant. The complex story-lines, characters, looping days and flipping timelines would simply have been too challenging to read. Only established, well-known professional writers would have the freedom to write such engrossing stories and have producers willing to put the effort in to read them properly. Sad, but true.


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Penoyer79
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It's amazing how many here seem baffled. There were plenty of details, clues, and hints planted throughout to what was really going on with just a little viewing effort.

Too busy playing Screenwriter Police, me thinks.
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Quoted from Penoyer79
It's amazing how many here seem baffled. There were plenty of details, clues, and hints planted throughout to what was really going on with just a little viewing effort.

Too busy playing Screenwriter Police, me thinks.


Don't agree here. The problems don't just involve the things that ultimately made sense. It involves all the things that did not make sense.


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Dreamscale
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Quoted from eldave1


Don't agree here. The problems don't just involve the things that ultimately made sense. It involves all the things that did not make sense.


True, TRUE!!!!!

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True, TRUE!!!!!



To the inane plot points already mentioned you could add:

No one investigates murders?? Humans get offed and there is no police/government involvement?????

Bernard made in the likeness of Arnold - put no one has a pic or image of Arnold so they owuld say WTF??? Also - he is allegedly human - but he doesn't age???

It's as if the writers sat around and one said - this doesn't make sense - and the other one said - who gives a shit - we got robots!



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Dreamscale
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Westworld has officially been renewed for Season 2.
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Spoilers

Just finished the first season and I'm kinda out. The only sequence I loved was when Maeve and friends butchered the butchers - and before that the reveal that she was never in control. I knew she was gonna go back but damn that was a downer.

What a literal headache as every solid twist was convoluted with another, stupid one. Why double down so quickly? The writers overcooked this story. Even Sir Anthony Hopkins' killer acting couldn't give the pressure in my head a break.

I'll give Westworld a generous C-, can't say I'll tune in further. Maybe I've missed out on some good TV this year, but with the exception of Stranger Things, 2016 television didn't impress me.
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Concur with this


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I have a very stupid question, I'm sure...

I've been following your discussions here and finally got curious enough to wanting to check out the show. Now, I can watch it on my HBO channels on cable, but I want to start with the first episode of course. That means I have to wait for reruns. I want to watch now! So, I go online and I can watch if I subscribe. Do I have to pay again or is there a code or something to type in from my cable company that proves I'm already an HBO subscriber. I refuse to pay for two subscriptions.

Thanks!



PS. Yes, I'm old...  


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What I've heard is that S2 could easily end up as an early 2018 release instead of Fall '17. At that point, I expect I'll have forgotten just about everything from S1. I'm not exactly keen on plowing through the season all over again for catchup. I'll keep an open mind in the meantime. I'd rather not make a definitive statement saying I'm out only to look like an asshole when I cave and watch at the last minute two years later.


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Maybe I've missed out on some good TV this year, but with the exception of Stranger Things, 2016 television didn't impress me.


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Quoted from Grandma Bear
I have a very stupid question, I'm sure...

I've been following your discussions here and finally got curious enough to wanting to check out the show. Now, I can watch it on my HBO channels on cable, but I want to start with the first episode of course. That means I have to wait for reruns. I want to watch now! So, I go online and I can watch if I subscribe. Do I have to pay again or is there a code or something to type in from my cable company that proves I'm already an HBO subscriber. I refuse to pay for two subscriptions.

Thanks!



PS. Yes, I'm old...  


You're talking HBOGO. If you're already a subscriber, you do NOT have to pay extra.



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Pia -- It should ask you to sign in with your cable provider and then it'll take you to HBO GO. Which has every episode of every HBO show online. So if you have HBO, you get HBO GO for free, no need to pay twice.


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Dreamscale
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Quoted from MarkItZero
Pia -- It should ask you to sign in with your cable provider and then it'll take you to HBO GO. Which has every episode of every HBO show online. So if you have HBO, you get HBO GO for free, no need to pay twice.


Yeah...that's how I'm watching all the Game of Thrones shows in order.  You can DVR them and watch whenever.
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Thanks guys!

Turns out one reason I couldn't figure all this out was because my husband has been a Cox customer for 30+ years and he opened an online account in the early 90s and the Cox website just wouldn't let me find out anything unless we signed into our account. Who would remember info on a 20+ year account??? I ended up calling them and funny thing was that my hubby signed up so long ago that only a four digit PW was needed and he used his birth year!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's all been sorted now and I will watch soon. As soon as I get his adaptation rewrite done.

Cheers guys!


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