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Andrew
Posted: July 18th, 2017, 6:41pm Report to Moderator
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Any viewers of this yet?

The rave reviews and Nolan's track record make this more desirable than revisiting Fresher's Week for a night.


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Being a huge WW2 buff, I was waiting to see this for months after seeing the trailers. Have read a few reviews of it and gone cold. Apparently could've been so much better and memorable. Nolan chose a non linear direction with the story. May just wait till its on Netflix though the aerial footage is great I hear



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I saw the trailer yesterday. Not overwhelmed - but ya never know.


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I dunno. Hearing nothing but raves about this one. If I can I'm going.


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Being released in the states this Friday.

I too have seen the trailers for many months, but have very little interest, actually.
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For those who haven't seen it.



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I'll be seeing this at the weekend.  I'm a sucker for a good war film (even the occasional average one), and the story of the Dunkirk evacuation is one that deserves to be told.   It looks good.  Just hoping Harry Styles doesn't eff it up.  Ed Sheeran in GOT was more than enough.  This is why we need an end to austerity, stop all these popstars from being forced to take second jobs...


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It was good fun. Same old Nolan, for better and worse, serving up an hour fourty-five of no-frills war porn. Wasn't non-stop tension, for me -- and I think it was supposed to be -- but the last third really hits a home run.

As is standard for Nolan, technically brilliant and emotionally removed. The real standout in this one is Hans Zimmer's score, which is unique and darn good even for him.

Harry Styles was fine! But I didn't know who he was until just now...
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Have to say, I thought this was fantastic.

On the emotion thing, H, I fail to understand this.

If you look at some of Nolan's latest for emotion:

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Undeniably emotional regarding George in Dunkirk?

"No. No, no, no... I was disappointed that you tried." Inception

Interstellar is one large emotional drain; from the deaths of Doyle and Romilly, to Cooper returing to see years of messages from his kids, to the very point of the movie (love conquers all), I am slightly bemused when Nolan is continually accused of being an emotion-free zone.

Is it just one of those stereotypes that is repeated, with very little substance? I dunno, maybe I'm overly emotional, but Nolan imbues his movies with plentiful moments to wipe your eyes.

Zimmer's score is - as ever - wonderful. Their partnership is becoming one of the greatest in the history of film. Big commercial hits can be just as powerful, just as emotionally resonant and just as cerebral as arthouse pieces. I don't think Memento is any more powerful than his large commercial stuff now.


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Hmmm - maybe have to take a look at this


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Andrew,

I can only respond to that with subjectivity -- if emotionally removed Nolan is the stereotype, it fits my experience. I really love to watch Nolan's movies because they are always a singular and well-realized vision, but they never engage me that much emotionally. The big swing-for-the-fences emotional moments in his movies tend to fall flat for me, including in Dunkirk. I'm not denying that they're there, just saying that he seems too removed to really sell them.

Interstellar, for whatever reason, was the exception. That movie had incredible emotional power. It is my favourite of his.
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I watched this yesterday and loved it. Intense and realistic, it never lets up and doesn't outstay its welcome. Very clever use of tension building music.

Oh and Tom Hardy proves that he can actually pull off a very decent performance while wearing a mask for most of the film!


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Andrew,

I can only respond to that with subjectivity -- if emotionally removed Nolan is the stereotype, it fits my experience. I really love to watch Nolan's movies because they are always a singular and well-realized vision, but they never engage me that much emotionally. The big swing-for-the-fences emotional moments in his movies tend to fall flat for me, including in Dunkirk. I'm not denying that they're there, just saying that he seems too removed to really sell them.

Interstellar, for whatever reason, was the exception. That movie had incredible emotional power. It is my favourite of his.


Fair enough. The beuaty of film is how we are all calibrated in different ways, and our antennas pick up different messages and emotions.

We are in complete agreement about his technical brilliance, and also with Interstellar. For me, it's Top 50 ever made territory; it's that good.


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**SPOILERS**

Well worth the wait.  Visually and tonally it pulled me in from the outset.  Moments of brooding stillness offset by sudden bursts of chaos - all with Hans Zimmer’s soundtrack adding to the tension.  With that said I’m surprised it wasn’t as affecting as I thought it would be.  There were moments, but it’s all so very understated; feels almost docu-like n places and that coupled with the multiple plot-lines and sparse dialogue keeps the characters at something of a distance.  More Thin Red Line than Saving Private Ryan but without the formers philosophical heart.

Aerial sequences were beautifully shot, one of the highlights, I only wish there’d been more.  Got to be the easiest money Tom Hardy’s ever made, leaving his eyebrows to do the heavy lifting.  Credit to him, he did pull it off - next to Mark Rylance's small boat captain.  Is there a category for best supporting facial expressions?  That end sequence made it all worthwhile.  It didn’t even occur to me until afterwards that we never see the enemy - outside of the dive bombers and a few shadowy silhouettes at the very end.

I’m hoping Ridley Scott takes notice for his proposed Battle of Britain project.


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All the Limes out there are well aware of the significance of the event at Dunkirk. Us Yanks don't start learning about WWII until The "Lend / Lease" act which is when the war started to effect the US.  

Here is a good overview of the events of the evacuation - http://spitfiresite.com/2010/05/battle-of-britain-1940-dunkirk-operation-dynam.html

This is is an excellent article - http://www.griffonmerlin.com/2017/07/19/dunkirk-does-historical-accuracy-matter/ a good assessment of the Dunkirk film that notes some deviations from the historical record (empty sea, not enough smoke, not enough destroyers, implication that it was the little boats that saved the day, and the Spitfires operating at too low an altitude).

Regardless, a thoroughly captivating film.  I highly recommend it.

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Saw this tonight, thought it was great.

I'm not surprised that some people haven't really gone for it - it's very much Nolan's vision of what it must have felt like to be part of this moment in history, rather than a traditional, contextualised attempt to recount the story of Dunkirk. And it doesn't have the chest-thumping heroism of something like Saving Private Ryan with its soaring score and protagonists you can cheer and cry for - I don't think Mark Rylance or Cillian Murphy's characters even have names, for instance. Instead it tries to show ordinary, unremarkable people: the extras in the background of other films, not the heroes, the people just trying to get home.

Personally I found the interlocking narratives device and non-linear structure ingenious, providing a constant drip-feed of jeopardy rather than SET PIECE / talking / SET PIECE (as you usually get) - this eschews traditional three-act structure, instead wrapping the film around itself and meaning you never knew how far you were along in the plot, or if you could ever relax ('oh we're two hours in and they're gearing up, here comes the big showdown, false loss before eventual victory, somebody important will die and possibly there'll be a sweet coda to wrap things up'). Performances were solid and I think deliberately quite restrained. It's shot beautifully, I saw it on a massive screen and he stretches the picture to convey scale, rather than someone like George Lucas who thinks 'epic' means packing every frame full of as much stuff as you can think of, or Michael Bay who seems to think you make things exciting by cutting between shots every half-second.

Also, it's been written about a lot but Hans Zimmer's score is a total triumph, an anxious, rumbling background presence that serves the mood of the piece without demanding the attention. I thought the organ-heavy Interstellar compositions fit that film, and again he nails it here - it's cool that Nolan is throwing different challenges at Zimmer and seeing what he can come up with.

An industry analyst in an article about its prospects in the Chinese market called it a 'tone poem', and I think that's a pretty good description. It's not really a war movie because it isn't interested in the wider war - it's more a survival film, I think. I thought of Gravity when I watched it, the refusal to give in and that sense that sometimes just surviving counts as winning (I know some people really didn't like that film either, so maybe this is just my kinda thing.)

It's the second film in a row that wasn't quite what I thought it was going to be - the other one was War for the Planet of the Apes - but I think I like it more for that. Smarter and more ambitious than I expected it to be, he's confident in the film he wanted to make and delivered it with style.

Possibly Nolan's best film so far, for me. I look forward to seeing it again at some point.


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Oh and Tom Hardy proves that he can actually pull off a very decent performance while wearing a mask for most of the film!


Apparently you didnt see The Revenant??
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Seen this a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was really good, even tho it's different. I think I have never seen a movie with so little dialogue before. The score is amazing and makes the atmosphere even more intense. There is one scene towards the end of the film where the music suddenly stops. Until this moment I didn't even realize that it was playing the whole damn time. That ticking clock...

Not Nolan's best film (that's still Inception IMO), but another pretty damn good one.
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I am going to get bashed for saying this but I hated the movie. It's getting rave reviews.

I'm not a history fan so maybe that had something to do with it. I watched it...had no clue who the main character was... didn't care about any of them really ... and there was way too much blood and guts and killing for me.

I wanted to get up and leave but we were in the expensive cushy seat recliner theater so I stayed. :*( not for me.
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