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Matthew Taylor
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Doesn't that contravene why this thread was started? -- too much emphasis on formatting and not enough about story/characters/theme/plot.


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So...

When someone claims that a pro writes with the use of wrylies,  asides, etc - they are not doing so simply because they can get away with it - they probably always did it. Yes?


I have never made a comment about what you're asking, Dave.

My point here is that just because someone has "credentials", doesn't mean their script is any better than if it didn't sell, and they are not a better writer.

Warren was asking for credentials over and over, as if without them, there's no reason to listen to that person.

But, then he said a crappy writer is a crappy writer, whether or not they sold a script.

So, I was left confused once again.

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I think this is a good idea, Libby.

1. I think there needs to be a different thread for each distinct topic (we could build an inventory of issues as we go).

2. Someone should write the main article. Then someone should be allowed to imbed the counter view  (if there is one) withing that main article. Then that specific post would be locked - but peeps would be allowed to make comments on the thread.

I'll start by posting one on parentheticals. Jeff, Lon, or anyone for that matter could volunteer to write the counter view (if there is one).

Jeff - if you are still reading this thread, you could write one on Scene Headings. You're killer in that area.


It's a good idea, Dave!

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I have never made a comment about what you're asking, Dave.

My point here is that just because someone has "credentials", doesn't mean their script is any better than if it didn't sell, and they are not a better writer.

Warren was asking for credentials over and over, as if without them, there's no reason to listen to that person.

But, then he said a crappy writer is a crappy writer, whether or not they sold a script.

So, I was left confused once again.


My point was that many have said here, and perhaps it was not you, when a writer points out that a pro writer have used something like and a side or a parenthetical, the only reason they're doing it is that they can get away with it. Conversely, my suspicions is that they always wrote that way. That's it.


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Quoted from Matthew Taylor
Doesn't that contravene why this thread was started? -- too much emphasis on formatting and not enough about story/characters/theme/plot.


I don't think a separate thread on formatting in writing techniques contravenes the intent of this thread. I view it is a thought that was generated from this thread. That's why I posted my first one and a difference thread all together


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It's a good idea, Dave!



Cool. Do you think you can take up the challenge a writing a similar post on scene headings?


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Dave, isn't that the intent of the Screenwriting FAQ thread? Not saying it couldn't use some updating, just that I think this was already started some time back in the prehistory of SS.


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

TV pilots:
"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

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Cool. Do you think you can take up the challenge a writing a similar post on scene headings?


I could...and will.  Not sure when that will be.

I haven't read you new thread yet.

Cooking and drinking here.  

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Dave, isn't that the intent of the Screenwriting FAQ thread? Not saying it couldn't use some updating, just that I think this was already started some time back in the prehistory of SS.


No, I don't think so. The intent of the thread that I'm proposing if to give newbies a place to go 2 view a position on a rating format or style topic without having to go through 200 post to get the gist of an issue. I think that is along the lines of what Libby suggested for this thread. I will let her and others decide if it's a value. If not, they can just delete it.


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I just did a quick search and note:

https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1107581778/s-12/highlight-Parentheticals/#num12
(2005)
and this one:
https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-screenwrite/m-1107581778/s-0/
(2009)
And now Dave's:

I was thinking we could merge threads but then I looked at yours Dave and it's spectacularly good so perhaps Don might agree to it being a Sticky thread along with the others planned for the Screenwriting Class thread.

I'll have a look at the others (listed above) in more detail but I think they were in the form of a debate and not a 'How To'.

And will also wait for Don and Pia, Blondie and Bert to weigh in.

I think the idea for having these basics front and centre is a good one cause I think most people tend to start a new thread rather than doing a search to see, for example, if Parentheticals or any other formatting discussions have been covered before.

Edit:

Also this one -
https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1267726303/s-6/highlight-Wrylies/#num6

And:

https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1202767515/s-6/highlight-Wrylies/#num6
https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1309333118/s-147/highlight-Wrylies/#num147
& Script Club XIV - Black Swan

Searched for Wrylies this time, and parentheses.


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Sounds like a good plan giving different perspectives on some of these issues.

Thread titles like...

Formatting Deathmatch - Parentheticals
Formatting Deathmatch - Slugs

(I kid about the titles, mostly)


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

TV pilots:
"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

Additional scripts are listed here.
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Quoted from eldave1


I don't think a separate thread on formatting in writing techniques contravenes the intent of this thread. I view it is a thought that was generated from this thread. That's why I posted my first one and a difference thread all together


Oh I see! Basically taking the points out of this thread and placing them into separate concise threads... Sorry, I misunderstood.


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Quoted from Matthew Taylor


Oh I see! Basically taking the points out of this thread and placing them into separate concise threads... Sorry, I misunderstood.


no prob, mate


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Quoted from LC

I was thinking we could merge threads but then I looked at yours Dave and it's spectacularly good so perhaps Don might agree to it being a Sticky thread along with the others planned for the Screenwriting Class thread.



Ahh - Thanks, Libby.

What is a sticky thread???



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Quoted from eldave1

What is a sticky thread???


It's a string that hasn't been washed in a long time

Actually, an example would be the first six threads of the Screenwriting Class board. They stay at the top even if some normal thread has more activity.


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

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"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

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