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Jeff generally only reviews OWCs - at least since I have been here. However, he must have reviewed a ton of scripts in the past given his post count - so I am assuming he has dropped off for some reason (review fatigue maybe. Perhaps he would have some insight into what would re-generate a review spark on his part outside of OWCs.
Actually, Jeff has probably reviewed more scripts than anyone else here ever. Especially features. His reviewing style didn't use to be as harsh as now. They were often really long and helpful. What has changed in that regard? I don't know. Only Jeff would know the answer to that one, but he gets a lot of leeway here due to the amount of valuable feedback he has given over the years.
Actually, Jeff has probably reviewed more scripts than anyone else here ever. Especially features. His reviewing style didn't use to be as harsh as now. They were often really long and helpful. What has changed in that regard? I don't know. Only Jeff would know the answer to that one, but he gets a lot of leeway here due to the amount of valuable feedback he has given over the years.
So - Jeff - what do you think, mate - what would spark an interest for you in reading and commenting on scripts just because (i.e., rather than an OWC)? It seems that 95% of your reviews and comments are dedicated in those areas along with general screenwriting topics - e.g., how do I format this - etc. But I rarely see you comment on a script out of the blue.
Don't get me wrong - obviously no obligation on your part and, like me, you review a lot of OWCs you're not even in. But hardly ever just a randomly posted script. What could be done to change that? OR - is it even needed?
Well, here's the thing, Dave...
Yeah, I used to read entire feature length scripts and provide great detailed feedback. I would do that for the writer, as well as other writers who were interested is such feedback, in hopes of helping their writing.
Many times, the writer barely or didn't even respond.
I continued this with shorts, especially for writers I knew, and also for new writers, to get them engaged on the board, and also to help them get their feet under them in terms of writing scripts.
Again, little follow up from peeps most of the time.
This is back when I was writing, so I was hoping and assuming that peeps would jump on my scripts and provide detailed feedback. Yeah, I have gotten feedback, and actually quite alot back in the day, but mostly the feedback I get is the kind of feedback one can give in a few minutes, rarely much in terms of details and the like.
As time passed, peeps tended not to want to hear my thoughts and suggestions. They didn't want to hear about all the blatant mistakes and rookie errors they were making over and over again.
I guess I got tired of seeing the same mistakes over and over again and decided I was wasting my time, beating a dead horse over the head.
Peeps who are writing and submitting scripts on SS are the ones who need to be heavily living by the Quid Pro Quo mantra, as they are the ones who are in need of the advice/help, they're the ones who can/should learn from reading such advice/help, and new blood is what keeps this place spinning.
I guess the bottom line is that I got irked by how little thanks I got for spending alot of time and providing what I felt was expertise to help them become better writers.
Yeah, I used to read entire feature length scripts and provide great detailed feedback. I would do that for the writer, as well as other writers who were interested is such feedback, in hopes of helping their writing.
Many times, the writer barely or didn't even respond.
I continued this with shorts, especially for writers I knew, and also for new writers, to get them engaged on the board, and also to help them get their feet under them in terms of writing scripts.
Again, little follow up from peeps most of the time.
This is back when I was writing, so I was hoping and assuming that peeps would jump on my scripts and provide detailed feedback. Yeah, I have gotten feedback, and actually quite alot back in the day, but mostly the feedback I get is the kind of feedback one can give in a few minutes, rarely much in terms of details and the like.
As time passed, peeps tended not to want to hear my thoughts and suggestions. They didn't want to hear about all the blatant mistakes and rookie errors they were making over and over again.
I guess I got tired of seeing the same mistakes over and over again and decided I was wasting my time, beating a dead horse over the head.
Peeps who are writing and submitting scripts on SS are the ones who need to be heavily living by the Quid Pro Quo mantra, as they are the ones who are in need of the advice/help, they're the ones who can/should learn from reading such advice/help, and new blood is what keeps this place spinning.
I guess the bottom line is that I got irked by how little thanks I got for spending alot of time and providing what I felt was expertise to help them become better writers.
Cool idea. Congrats all on getting this made. I'll try to get to them all this weekend. Don't know why I started in opposite order cuz the wraparound story is gonna make no sense now...