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Gerlinde
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Of course, I also know that story (from the Mormon Children's Service), which would have made it more exciting if you had put the script into the present day, When it came to two brothers arguing over the love of the Father, which had a business The result of this is jealousy and hatred of the older generation for the younger, which leads to murder, Because some Bible stories have something to tell people today.
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I've read the Mormon 'Pearl of Great Price', how they expand on the story of Cain and Abel. I'm not sure if they were the ones that spread the pernicious myth that the mark of Cain being black skin. I don't think this influenced the story. Making it contemporary I think takes away from it somewhat (can you imagine Moses using his IPhone to contact God on Wassap Messenger?'.
It's funny you should mention Mormonism, because my next short is about the death of Mormon founder Joseph Smith in the Carthage Jail. That is a fascinating religion.


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There's a modern version of this. The mini-series Kane and Abel, based on the novel by Jeffery Archer. Brilliantly played by Sam Neil and Peter Strauss.


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I've read the Mormon 'Pearl of Great Price', how they expand on the story of Cain and Abel. I'm not sure if they were the ones that spread the pernicious myth that the mark of Cain being black skin. I don't think this influenced the story. Making it contemporary I think takes away from it somewhat (can you imagine Moses using his IPhone to contact God on Wassap Messenger?'.
It's funny you should mention Mormonism, because my next short is about the death of Mormon founder Joseph Smith in the Carthage Jail. That is a fascinating religion.


You do not have to take the "Pearl of great Price" seriously. It's an invention of Joseph "always horny" Smith, to pull the money from gullible idiots.
Moses with a cell phone calling to God would be weird. But I mean the essence of a message. What's up with Cain and Abel? Two brothers, one of whom is more loved by God (Father) than the other. Whereupon the other jealousy kills his brother. The topics are: jealousy, guilt and forgiveness! And they can just as well be presented in a modern robe, as in an ancient robe. And I tried to make that clear to you.

Speaking of the death of Joseph Smith:
Did you know that he wanted to summon the Nauvoo Legion to Carthage to rescue him? And that the Deputy Commander (Smith was the Lieutenant-General of the Nauvoo Legion) refused because it would have meant a bloodbath in Carthage? And that he had two smuggled pistols in jail shooting at the attackers? Or that he called the distress signal of the Masons when he fell out of the window? Few Mormons know these facts about the "Prophet" Joseph Smith, whom his followers consider a martyr, but who was nothing more than a liar, cheater, and slacker.
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That's what interests me in the story of his death. Before the advent of the internet, very few Mormons knew that Joseph Smith killed two people and injured others with a hidden pistol during his so-called martyrdom.
The life of Joseph Smith would make a great bio.  Certainly one of the most controversial figures in American History. Only non-Mormon film  I've seen tackle him (if very briefly) was 'September Dawn'. Dean Cain was very good in the role.



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Gerlinde
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How do you want to start the script? With his stay in prison? His escape after the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor? Or do you want to focus on the minutes before his death? If so, you should see the reasons that led to the arrest either be told by Joseph Smith (off) or in a dialog between Smith and another Person (perhaps his brother Hyrum or John Taylor).
Here, how I would start a script about Joseph Smith:

LUCY (69) stands at the grave. She cried. EMMA (40), her daughter-in-law, stands next to her, as were her grandchildren. She did not cry. Without expression she looks at the open grave in which the coffin of her husband Joseph lay.
What does she think of, Lucy thought? How many times he cheated on her with other women? Women who were sometimes minors, or already married to other men, such as Sister Zina Jacobs standing a little distance from the grave and cried. ,

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It will be mostly set in the Carthage Jail,  with two Jailors, Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum. I would really like to expand it to include the mob that had good reasons in their opinion to kill Smith, but that may make it too expensive, but there is a lot of drama there. A polygamist who takes another man's wife because he says God commanded it, that's an understandable trigger for wanting vengeance.


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I would take three persons, Joseph, Hyrum and John Taylor, who talk. Noise from outside (shots, mob,), as well as a jailer speaking (but not seen) would complete it. What would you think about it?
By the way, if I were to write a script about the life of Joseph "always horny" Smith, I would have the unifying text of the offs talked by his mother, Lucy Mack Smith, and start with his birth and the family's poor relationships because that the motivation of the figure of Joseph Smith.
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Good news. The director is moving foward with production. She will be interviewing crew in the next few weeks. Hope to shoot in early 2019.

Cool!


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Shooting in the forests of New South Wales, Australia.

I imagined a Blair Witch type of enviroment when I wrote it.


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Matthew,

That's great news.

All the best,
Marty
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Thanks Marty.
And good luck with your own projects.


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from Matt,

"My script 'Cain and Abel, Blood and Water' is now in pre-production and will hopefully shoot in first quarter of 2019."


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Great news - congrats


My Scripts can all be seen here:

http://dlambertson.wix.com/scripts
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Thanks Eldave.
Hopefully, this time next year, we can all watch this on YouTube.


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