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khamanna
Posted: March 29th, 2018, 1:39pm Report to Moderator
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Well, I'm about to out myself and see.
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Warren
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I also had my script writen before the extra parameters. That is why I asked these questions on the old thread and then reposted them on the new thread.

Sean says not all but most if your script needs to be set at the celebration, which I believe I did.

I also clarified that they could die anywhere in your script (Sean did not say no, they have to die at the celebration).

At no point was I given the extra, extra parameter of everyone having to die at the celebration, I don't even remember reading it anywhere.

I'm sorry ajr but I thought I was writing in the constraints of what I was given. The fact that you were told everyone had to die at yours and I wasn't given the same info is a bit of a shame.




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I asked Sean this question earlier in the old thread, maybe it helps?

"Hi Sean,

I understand the can't be dead before the script starts, but not so much the can't be dying as your script ends?

So they can die on the last page, but can't be dying? So you have to see them dead or know that they are dead?

Okay so we are going with most, if not all, BUT MOST of your script takes place at your ceremony. I guarantee people are going to get caught up on that. To me this means there can be a small portion of your script that does not take place at the event and that is acceptable?"

To my question about the dead he replied:

"Exactly"

and to the question about location he replied:

"If I had it my way, they would take place at the location 100%. However, people like to have set-up, cutaways, flashbacks, etc, which might not necessarily take place at the location.

One thing I made a note of last round is that I do condone people bringing their own sets of values into the reviews. For some people, any time away from the location or genre (or modifier, in the last round) was a deal-breaker. Others were willing to look past that and see just the story. Neither one is wrong.

It's all about that line and whether or not you cross it. It's why art is called "subjective" and why I don't DQ, because where I stand is not the same as where everybody else stands."\

So every one has to die within the pages of your script somewhere, and there can, although not ideal, be a small potion of your script away from the location, but it isn't preferable.










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ajr
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No worries Warren, it probably wouldn't have changed my entry all that much.

Boy, this thread is starting to become a bit PTSD-ish. Can't wait to see the stress in the finals...

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I blame myself, not the voters.  I will lose this round and it's my fault.  I wrote a bad story.  

I broke rule 1 of screenwriting.  We've discussed what must happen each scene and not only did I violate that, but I did it for the whole story because I was stretching my ideas and wrote a story based on something that I read.

So, to my opponent, who will move on, good job.  You wrote the better story and enough people liked yours the best.


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Looking forward to seeing who wrote what again.


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khamanna
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I wish I have time to give you my guesses tomorrow before you start out yourself and before the list is out. I could guess about everybody. Lol, got to be good at something...
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After seeing what happened on the Anniversary thread I'm interested to know what people's thoughts are about commenting on your own script, but more so using your comment to clear up plot points that previous readers may not have understood. So in essence making the script more clear for future readers?

I have no issue with commenting, I have a bit of an issue with how the comment can be used. I would have loved the opportunity to clear up some issues with my script but don't feel it's in the spirit of the competition to do so before the voting has ended.

Thoughts?



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Khamanna you can't forfeit! Once you enter Sean's torture chamber there's no leaving till the voters finally offer you sweet mercy.


That rug really tied the room together.
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Quoted from Warren
I would have loved the opportunity to clear up some issues with my script but don't feel it's in the spirit of the competition to do so before the voting has ended.

Thought?


I had a similar issue in the previous round. Everyone was saying that the comedy missed, when it was actually a straight sci-fi script. I'm pretty sure I got that treatment because my opponent's offering was side-splitting hilarious.


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Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

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"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

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Quoted from Warren
After seeing what happened on the Anniversary thread I'm interested to know what people's thoughts are about commenting on your own script, but more so using your comment to clear up plot points that previous readers may not have understood. So in essence making the script more clear for future readers?

I have no issue with commenting, I have a bit of an issue with how the comment can be used. I would have loved the opportunity to clear up some issues with my script but don't feel it's in the spirit of the competition to do so before the voting has ended.

Thought?


I think it's reasonable to plug some holes that you couldn't do in the script.  If the writer who wrote the one about the abyss explained what it was, well that isn't fair.  But if the fishing story wanted to clear some issue about fishing and the danger of what they were doing, that's OK.

What I'm trying to say is if you have knowledge of something, share it.  If it is knowledge no one would know, then don't.  If you wrote a story about magic and realized something you forgot to add, then I'd say no, because magic and world Bible material is world specific.

Make sense
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Dan
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Commenting on your own script to clear things up before voting is closed is against the spirit of it being anonymous, and when would it be a 'fair' to do it so as not to potentially influence the voting?


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Warren took me to task for this in the Anniversary thread, and he's repeating it here. I responded to him in that thread, if anyone wants to read it.



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Here's another way to look at it - who cares?

Stump and Khamanna are basically on record as saying that neither of them had a great idea for this round, and each was writing so that the other one wouldn't advance on a default. It's the rest of us loons that are making a big deal out of it.

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Quoted from AnthonyCawood
Commenting on your own script to clear things up before voting is closed is against the spirit of it being anonymous, and when would it be a 'fair' to do it so as not to potentially influence the voting?


In my case I could have said something like “I read this one first and it didn’t strike me as trying to be a comedy.” But I didn’t because then there’d be some expectation of a review, so I stayed away from my script and my opponent’s.


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

TV pilots:
"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

Additional scripts are listed here.
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Warren
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Quoted from Stumpzian
Warren took me to task for this in the Anniversary thread, and he's repeating it here. I responded to him in that thread, if anyone wants to read it.


I think it's a valid point for discussion that is why I posted it here as this is the round 2 discussion thread.

No one has to agree with me, I'm just giving an opinion.


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