Quoted from JSimon I reviewed 25 scripts. I've done quite a few OWCs in the past and I know that a script will not get 25 reviews, and some of the reviews it does get will be a sentence or two. So I put in much more than I get out. After the reveal, if I missed someone's script where the writer gave useful notes on my own, I will read their script. I never leave a debt hanging and I consider that a debt. The rest of Jeff's comment is pure fantasy and envy. He's had a rough day. The Jeagers will go down good tonight.

Kevin, what you talking 'bout, Willis?  You got the most reads and close to the most views, but of course that's skewed as you jumped in on your own thread to defend comments you didn't want to shade your amazing work.

Which of my comments are "pure fantasy"  "Envy"?  Really?  What am I envious of, bro?  Seriously...please do tell.  Why do you say I've had a rough day?  I haven't at all, actually.  It was a good day.  And finally, coming from an ex-bartender, why can't you learn to spell Jagermeister?  Or, simply, Jager?  Really?  C'mon, bro...get with it.

Sorry guys...only read 15 ...if you need a read pm me. I've been busy. I won't enter anymore, because it's just too much work to read them all now that I'm working full time and trying to write in the midnight hour.

I'd like to possibly film some of these so I will read them all but what's the point of commenting after a script already has like 20 reviews unless you have something new to bring to the table??

Quoted from DanC I am not sure what you disagree to.  I did read and post something to each story.  Sorry if I didn't get that impression.  What I didn't do was give an in-depth review of the story.  I thought I was supposed to just rate it for the future "what was the best."

I disagreed with the bit where you said you should review every script. For the reasons I stated. Like Pale Yellow says, what is the point of writing a review that doesn't say anything new when there's twenty there already?

You should read them all. That's the whole idea. This can be difficult when there's so many. But they're short, and there's plenty of time. Nobody's making anyone do anything though. It relies on trust. You should comment on them too. But only if you've something interesting or helpful to say. You can give your opinion, but there should be a bit more than just that.

There's little point in reading half a page then spending far longer writing a wholly negative review that offers no insight or help. That's what Twitter is used for.

Now, I'm off to feed the goat. He's been bleating. I told him he shouldn't have eaten that sofa.

R

I feed my goats - yes I have them, indeed another four arriving this weekend - ivy. And other weeds.

They love it.

Genius animals. And cuddly  

A fellow herder. Good work, fella.

Now, to keep this on topic... there's a lot of criticism about. It's a doddle to criticise, any fool can do it. And often do. But not enough of it is constructive.

And there's not enough hircine type characters in scripts.

R

It's just one story out of millions. One story, quickly thrown together based on certain requirements. Are most of the stories in this OWC utter, utter shit? Yes they are. As is to be expected. We can't be amazing all of the time.

I think the reviews doled out are mostly fair. I say what I genuinely feel and I honestly feel that that is the best thing I can do for somebody. To get my honest reaction. Otherwise, it's almost like I'm wronging them. If you're somebody I like, the very least you deserve is the truth. I may be a dick, or completely wrong sometimes, but I do try to be genuine.

Quoted from Reef Dreamer I feed my goats - yes I have them, indeed another four arriving this weekend - ivy. And other weeds. They love it. Genius animals. And cuddly

I'd never attempt to get between a man and his goat...

Quoted from DustinBowcot It's just one story out of millions. One story, quickly thrown together based on certain requirements. Are most of the stories in this OWC utter, utter shit? Yes they are. As is to be expected. We can't be amazing all of the time. I think the reviews doled out are mostly fair. I say what I genuinely feel and I honestly feel that that is the best thing I can do for somebody. To get my honest reaction. Otherwise, it's almost like I'm wronging them. If you're somebody I like, the very least you deserve is the truth. I may be a dick, or completely wrong sometimes, but I do try to be genuine.

I know I don't mind bad reviews (once I pick my ego off the ground) b/c I'd rather hear it here then have it tossed, and most everyone from the reviews that I read has been pretty good and even nice about the reviews.

I'm sure we all have our favs and least liked, and that's okay.  

I think the biggest thing that each of us should remember is that behind every story is a human being who tried.  Even if you think it's a pisser, it might not be.  Someone might have thought they did something pretty good.  

Honestly, what I'd recommend is, give a first review as if you didn't have any personal feelings (like a pisser) and assume it's a new writer, and then, later on, if you think it's a pisser, then come back in when someone says something nice for no reason, and then go to town.  That way, if a conversation breaks out, it is different.  

On my story, once a person reviewed it, if they got into a discussion, it didn't bother me as much if they really hated the story.  maybe i'm odd...

I had a boring afternoon at work, this thread made it interesting, so thanks for the entertainment!

My own personal views on reviews is if you are going to comment (in the OWC especially) you should always try to offer some constructive criticism, even if you do bail on the first couple of pages. I’ve not always managed to do that myself but I believe I have in the most part. That’s a key point though, I BELIEVE I’ve been fair and constructive but the writer may think otherwise and still be hurt by what I have to say.

I read and reviewed every one, the only one I bailed on was the one that had no elevator in it at all. Do I expect 35 reviews in return? No. If you want to review my stuff, great, but I won’t chase anyone or call in any debts. I had time at work to review these so, in effect, I was being paid to do it lol. If I was busy, it would have been different.

I also believe you shouldn’t avoid a script in these challenges because you’ve read other people’s comments and think it’s not worth reading. I avoid comments until I’ve read the script to try and have an unbiased view. But that’s me, that’s what I choose to do. Everyone else can do it their way because all of the reviews/comments on here are free of charge and free to take on board, or dismiss, at your leisure.

As for what makes a ‘proper’ screenplay – that debate has been going on since screenplays were invented and will never stop. If you can convey your story across to the person reading it, they like it and they want to produce it; congratulations! You’ve written a screenplay, whether you’ve written it ‘properly’ or not. Writing it in a certain style and following a certain formula just increases your chances of someone reading it all the way through, and understanding the story you are attempting to convey. Liking it is an entirely different matter and is very much personal opinion based.

-Mark

I'll apologize for my earlier "rant" in this thread, but I still believe in the "say what you see" theory.

If that makes me a crap reader, I'm a crap reader.

I'm out of this awesome challenge because I need to learn many things, and I don't mean to hurt people's feelings at all or anything like that, no way. I just think, or thought, that you read and say what you feel about that particular script. If you leave early, say why, try adding a helpful hint, even If you ( me) has never written a script before.
I think I tried to do that, but it's quite hard to give advice to someone who is better than you... which is about everyone who entered.
You have to then cover your tracks because it is a secret, and try and pretend like you know what you are talking about.
It's been bizarre, fun, really interesting, and pretty great.

I have not read the entirety, but I don't want to antagonize or hurt people's feelings. That is the last thing I want to do.

All the best to everyone who entered this fuckin crazy ass challenge. LOL.

I think I struggle with this one.

If it's a good script, the comments are easy. If it's mid range, it's not hard to give constructive criticism.

What do you do about the God awful ones, we've all read them. Do you just not comment? Tell the person to bin it and start again?

For me personally, if I wrote something like that, I wouldn't want it sugar coated. What's the point? I'll take the ego hit, lick my wounds and start again.

Quoted from Warren I think I struggle with this one. If it's a good script, the comments are easy. If it's mid range, it's not hard to give constructive criticism. What do you do about the God awful ones, we've all read them. Do you just not comment? Tell the person to bin it and start again? For me personally, if I wrote something like that, I wouldn't want it sugar coated. What's the point? I'll take the ego hit, lick my wounds and start again.

Interesting question, Warren:

Other than OWCs, where I will comment on everything I read, sometimes I will just bail on a script without comments because I feel - right or wrong - that the writer is so far away from being there that it doesn't really matter what I say.

But most times I think you can find something to say that is helpful and honestl but not hurtful.  

Thanks, eldave.

Will try keep that in mind the next time I'm fighting my way through a shocker.

This is my new FAVORITE section on here. I will be reading these comments every night before bed.

Quoted from Warren Will try keep that in mind the next time I'm fighting my way through a shocker.

This made me choke on my Dr. Pepper! Lol  

~Zack~