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Zack
Posted: July 21st, 2010, 12:27pm Report to Moderator
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... Several times! An entire class at Grand Valley State college chose my script as the final project of a prerequisite course image and sound. Here are the links to the many different videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUOhyR4ud78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtFXE8x8TkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTilaMrSPw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVziDvblFPQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKUwPzChZuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28HhotNlnE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAzKRHHROto

What do you guys think? Which one do you like best?

~Zack~

Edit: Link to the script here- http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-short/m-1209510261/s-0/


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Just watched them all.  Thought this one was the best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKUwPzChZuU

Pretty cool to have so many made using one of your scripts.


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Wow, I went to GVSU!

Edit: And I took "Image and Sound"!
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I hope they asked for your permission for this....


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Zack,

Congratulations on getting your script produced.   Production-wise I liked the first one the best.  
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Zack
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Quoted from dogglebe
I hope they asked for your permission for this....


Phil


As far as I know they did not. But they did give me credit, so it's all good. It was a nice little surprise actually. haha. I hop on my email and see that one of my scripts has been produced several times. It does have me curious though, have any of my other scripts been produced without my permission?

As for the actual videos, I enjoy all the different takes on my script. Though I am a bit disappointed there wasn't one that was entirely faithful to what I had written.

Jayrex, I think that one might be my favorite as well. Although I am a bit confused and disappointed by the end.

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dogglebe
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WTF??

Since when do film schools think they can just use other people's work without asking permission?

I google all my work on a regular basis. I do it by script title and, sometimes by character names.  It's a pain in the ass but it has to be done.


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Congrats on getting this produced, Zack.

I can't see much damage here since the script was available and you are happy to see it come alive. But for the record, Phill is right, it's totally a dick move to shoot stuff without the author's permission.

Bad film teachers bad film teachers, don't tell your students to pick anything they like on the net and shoot it. The fact that a script is posted on a public forum doesn't make it available to the public.

If I see a shinny new Ferrari parked on a public street does that mean I can can hop in and take it for a ride? Nope. And that hot blonde walking down the public street, can I club her down and do her? Can I? It's not for profit! Nope. I can't.

Same with scripts.


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I can't see much damage here since the script was available and you are happy to see it come alive. But for the record, Phil is right, it's totally a dick move to shoot stuff without the author's permission.


The big problem, here, is that someone (with Zack's permission) could be producing it.  No one wants to produce a film when it may be going against another film of the same script at a film festival.  Filmmakers want to be the only ones making a particular script.

Plagiarism, like this, cost me with the Gimme Credit Screenplay Competition.  Some assholes from Full Sail filmed Not Even Death without my permission and posted it on several websites.  One of the rules of Gimme Credit (and other screenplay competitions) is that only unproduced scripts can be entered.

I had to bring a lawyer in on this to get all these 'pirated' versions of NED taken off the web.  And then I had a film teacher produce Sixteen Minutes and put it on youtube.  This could've scared away the filmmaker that I was in talks with to produce this script.

Both of these films were poorly made, IMHO.  This is why, when someone asks for  permission to shoot my scripts, I ask to see their work.  I want some control in the matter.


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I google all my work on a regular basis. I do it by script title and, sometimes by character names.  It's a pain in the ass but it has to be done.

I did this today, searched YouTube for the title of one of my scripts. It has already been produced (with my permission) but to my surprise, I found 3 new movies based on that script (not 1, not 2 - fucking 3!)

One of them at least credited my as a writer - the other two didn't (they were made by the same guy. Yeah, he made it twice - go figure). I should be mad at the last guy...but I can't. It's so fucking hillarious listening to actors say your lines with an Indian accent.





This is the "real" one: http://www.simplyscripts.com/2008/12/22/the-second-draft-script-and-film/


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Getting back to the original topic of this thread, I like the first one listed the best.  Maybe it's because it's a different location than the others (others that I've seen so far).  Or maybe because this was the only one where the main character actually had to deal with a body, as opposed to a trash bag filled with something that was obviously not a body.  But this one seemed to work.


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Rob, that's crazy!  Some Indian dude filmed your script twice without asking?

That's hilarious!


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Quoted from Zack


Best one. They really put a lot of time into this one. Even the acting wasn't that bad.


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Props for a different location and more creative dynamics between the body and ghost.


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Props for actually showing the murder onscreen as well as the dismemberment. Now it doesn't look as bad when the guy's dragging around a very non-body shaped garbage bag.

It's a good thing they made so many, Zack, because some of these sucked really bad. I've highlighted the ones  that have their moments. I think the first two were actually pretty good. The second one starts out decent then peters out toward the end. The others... bad acting, no attempts to make it look like there's actually a body in the bags (at least give them some weight) and overblown, distracting music... actually most student films have crappy music.

I'm happy for you though or rather happy that you're not absolutely livid right now. I see Don's actually had to add disclaimers to the script boards. Who knew there were enough numbskulls who think ripping off other people's shit is okay just because they don't profit off it.


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Quoted from sniper
One of them at least credited my as a writer - the other two didn't (they were made by the same guy. Yeah, he made it twice - go figure). I should be mad at the last guy...but I can't. It's so fucking hillarious listening to actors say your lines with an Indian accent.


I watched both of them and have to say I can see why he filmed the thing twice. He really stepped it up the second time around and fixed a lot of things. I also think it's funny how he totally ripped off the Sin City soundtrack. Looks like you're two degrees from Robert Rodriguez at this point.


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Quoted from sniper
One of them at least credited my as a writer - the other two didn't (they were made by the same guy. Yeah, he made it twice - go figure). I should be mad at the last guy...but I can't. It's so fucking hillarious listening to actors say your lines with an Indian accent.


Forty-three seconds into it, one of the guys says, "Come again," with an Indian accent.  Right away, I thought of Apu from the Simpsons.

But seriously, you should tell this guy to take these scripts down.  They weren't his to use.  And if he doesn't comply, you can complain to youtube directly.


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