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Don
Posted: February 15th, 2015, 9:57am Report to Moderator
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Apple by June Stahl - Short, Drama - When a boy learns something about the humble apple, he wonders if it could change his life for the better.   8 pages - pdf, format


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Apple

I'm curious what he's going to learn about an apple...

Is that true? I assume not, and he just died of an asthma attck?

Aha, For a second I forgot it was about urban legends ie - weird theories

I quite like the idea of the boy trying to do the mothers work, or seeing out her intention, and by accident succeeding. But once I finished I found this a little unsatisfying

I think the way it was set up was a little obvious but it probably has potential to be given some extra bite and focus.

For example, he could say to his daughter that he once thought they were, but they can be bad luck, thereby setting off another legend.  Just a thought

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This one was fairly well written, but the story left me a little cold by the end.

The fact that the Paramedic revealed that the pips caused the asthma attacks, made no sense....because they don't, urban legend or not.

Just a bit bland, overall, I'm sorry to say.
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Okay.  This has the seeds (no pun intended) of a solid short script.  It needs a *touch* of polish IMO, but that's easy enough to do.  In terms of the OWC - it's probably reaching a bit to call "apple seed poison" an urban legend.  Though it's on Snopes, so I guess that counts. And I did see where this was going from the minute "poison" was mentioned.  But that's rather unavoidable...  

I really do think you need to make the Dad even more abusive to justify the actions and the ending.  After all, we're talking murder here.  You want the situation to be so completely dire that we don't end up losing empathy for the protagonist!
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Too simple for my tastes, usually countered by having a short script. Not the longest script here, but I wouldn't call it short either. George doesn't really seem like a dick, I mean the bruises imply he hits them but we never really see it. He just yells at them and such.

Which brings me to the next point. The overuse of cliche tropes like the abusive husband. There needs to be more meat and especially some more depth, which the script is currently lacking. The execution just feels lacklustre and uninspiring unfortunately. Could be better.
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As I go...

When you use "SUPER", whatever follows is what will be onscreen, so, you don't need the quote marks, nor do you need to skip a line.

Uh oh...the dreaded "whilst" - a "word" that should never show its ugly face in a screenplay.

If you use parentheses around your age description, you don't needs a comma as well - either or, but not both.

"Sat on..." - Oh man, another heinous phrase that shoudl never, EVER be used!!!!  OMG!!!!!  ARGH!!!!  Run to the hills!!  

George sure seems like a wonderful man!  LOL...actually, comes off way too cliched immediately.

Some missing commas here and there that actually caused me to haev to read some lines several times.

Personally, I loathe cheesy similes, and you've already used a few.

Page 4 - "...creeps out of the door" - awkward.  You know why?  Because of the inclusion of "of".  Lose it.

"noone" - no one

The End.

Well, nothing reotely interesting here, sorry to say.  It's telegraphed so early on and there's literally no surprises, no action, no nothing.  Will be forgotten very, very quickly.  Writing isn't too bad, and it's fairly clean though, so I appreciate that.
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The script is pretty well written, although I didn't feel like I was reading an urban legend story. Just seemed more of a "battered family member takes revenge" piece.  I even searched online for the urban legend about apple pips (or are the pits?), but didn't find anything.

Still, the story is a quick breeze to read, not a lot of fluff in it, and you get the ending you expect.  Would be pretty easy to film, I would think, as there aren't any special effects to worry about.

Pretty good job here.

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Quoted from Gary in Houston
I even searched online for the urban legend about apple pips (or are the pits?), but didn't find anything.


I guess it's this one: http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp

My thoughts - all completely subjective:

Looking at the urban legend, I definitely didn't think there was anything good to spin out of this one, but the irony of a bollocks story told to a child actually coming to fruition by coincidence is still a pretty impressive place to take it. Creative work here.

While the situation of domestic abuse really already is black and white enough, I thought the script was still trying too hard to show how black and white it is. The overly cute dialogue, perfect or perfectly evil characters. The script almost feels like a strong advocate for killing off an abusive father and that's just the wrong message. Either way, the clear lack of subtlety took me right out of the story. This one wasn't for me.
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I thought generally well done. Somehow I was expecting a line of dialogue that read "rotten to the core" somewhere along the line

There are way too many exclamation points! Maybe it's a writing trend that I am not familiar wiht - but this is like the 5th script I've read that was full of them.

Clear- concise descriptions. Dialogue was fine - a pretty good effort.



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SPOILERS

This script is a neat little creation, sort of a murder as a teachable moment.  There's something wonderfully precise yet excessive in the descriptions from the first paragraph on -- we are guided into a little world that seems in danger of destruction and in danger of survival.   Made me think of puppet theatre.

Annie tells her son she'd been told that apple pips are poison, fully aware, we soon find out, that her son is attentive and obedient, almost programmable.

It's odd that the villainous George is entirely dependent on his inhaler.  To the audience, George is going to seem easy to kill.  And the audience will be quietly alarmed that "easy to kill" came so easily to mind.  

Still, Annie guides Joe to think he has the power to poison George.  And Joe sneaks in, sets the trap and waits.  Ah, The Mousetrap, that play-within-the-play in Hamlet, with puppets.

Very clever, creepy writing.  Nicely done!
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I don't know what UL lies in the center of it but I really liked this.

I think it's simply Excellent.

George is a cardboard character and that's my only reservation. The Mom and Joe are excellent. And I really liked the ending. Very nice.

Yes, they are poisonous - I've heard that. Not that it's a real poison but that's what people say - don't eat the seeds, they have some kind of acid that's not good for you. I'd also say "poisonous" to a kid to make him stop.

ANyway, I liked the pay off and all. Nice job here.
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Writing style:
Can't complain except for "with all the gusto of a builder loading a cement mixer with a shovel." which I thought was too much.

Dialogue:
Simple enough. But the last lines: "Trust me I know" were an over kill. As a matter of fact the whole last scene seemed unnecessary for me.

Character:
I felt sorry for Emily but you didn't go hard enough on her. I disliked her husband but not enough. You should made the encounter far more intense. If you want to  portray an evil character, you need to show the peak of his evilness. And if he's gentle, it's the same. Never go for half-measures when you shape your characters in front of us.

Story:
The story was easy to follow, but it lacked stakes. There was no thrill. No mystery. I knew the kid was going for the pips to use them against his father. I wished that you surprised me. The storyline had no twists or reveals that made this story worth telling. Not enough drama too.

Overall:
Like I said. It was easy to follow. You can write a story without losing the reader attention, but your story must be worth holding it or he would be disappointed by the end.
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I thought the UL regarding the apple pips was that a tree would grow in one's stomach? Oh well, it would have been more fun to go the the tree growing route, but poison will have to do, I suppose.

Code

The cough begins to subside.


You could drop 'begins to' from the above and pluralise 'subside'.

Code

Annie looks at him, completely devoid of emotion.


Emotionless says 'completely devoid of emotion', but does it in one word.

Code

She looks down at Joe by her side and her sweet smile
returns. She smiles lifts him up and sits him back on the
worktop.


She smiles while she is already smiling. Going to need an edit. You also don't need the word 'down'.



OK cool... so the dad chokes to death and isn't poisoned, but the pips might as well be poison. Pretty good if a little bland. Not a bad job.
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I remember a Sherlock Holmes story about pips. Might have been orange pips. Don't remember whether poison played a part.

I like c m hall's observation (above) regarding Annie's part in this. And the fact that the pips didn't actually kill George. They just set things in motion.

I notice that Joe and George don't interact. Was that intentional? I can see what the reason might be. if George abuses Joe, that might be interpreted as the boy's motive. This way, it seems clear he's doing it for his mother.

I'd like a little something else at the end. I'm not sure what.





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Pretty well written though the tale is a little too straightforward and ccould do with some sort of twist or change-up at the end.

George feels a little caricaturey, could do with some more depth, and a better explanation for Annie leaving unexpectedly (at least it seemed unexpected).

I know the apple seeds cannot kill people so would query how much of a UL this really is, but I'm fine with poetic license, just would like a better death.

Anthony


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