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I'm a Stephen King super fan, I'm always reading a King book at any given time (Currently recycling Needful Things, absolute chaotic awesomeness).

So it's fair to say I have been eagerly awaiting the latest incarnation of King's behemoth of a novel that is The Stand.

Early on I was worried about some casting choices. Amber heard is human trash, I can stand Whoopi Goldberg and Ezra Millar for the Trashcan Man was the worst by far. I will say I thought Alexander Skarsgard for Randal Flagg was the perfect choice. So I wasn't hoping for much.

Anyway... the first episode happened and I'm not sure how I feel about it. I so want to love it, but so far I'm not sure I do.

The structure is terrible and the focus of the first episode made no sense to me at all. People always complain about flashbacks, well in my opinion here is an exact instance where it isn't working. I'm also a little terrified to think that this is how they will structure the whole series.

Stu and Franny were both pretty lackluster, and I'm not sure I like the casting choice for Harold either. I have heard rumours that they butcher Lloyd's charater as well.

Maybe my expectations are just way too high. But we are only one episode in and anything could happen from here.

Anybody watched it? Readers, non readers, what are your thoughts?


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The Stand is my second fave book of all time (after It lol)    Watched the new trailer the other day and it didn’t seem to be any better than the 1994 miniseries. They also changed genders and race of some chars simply for pc crap.  I’m not gonna pay to watch anything on tv anyway so a pass for me lol.



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The Stand is my second fave book of all time (after It lol)    Watched the new trailer the other day and it didn’t seem to be any better than the 1994 miniseries. They also changed genders and race of some chars simply for pc crap.  I’m not gonna pay to watch anything on tv anyway so a pass for me lol.


I love the 94 series, rewatched it and reread the book for the umpteenth time when COVID first hit, just for shits and giggles. It's really dated but I think it still holds up all right, except for some of the visual effects haha.

I'm also over the PC BS but if they do the role justice it won't bug me one bit. I'm not confident they will though.

P.s.  if you want to see the biggest piece of woke PC garbage every to grace the screen, try sit through a few episodes of Grand Amry on Netflix, f@#k me that show is so far up it's own arse.


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Yeah the 94 series had some great acting: Gary Sinise was really good as Stu. The only crap ones were the guys that played Flagg and Harold. Incidentally I’ve always considered Flagg to be a black dude. In the updated novel with illustrations he looks African American.



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Amber Heard's private life aside...
She's actually a pretty good actress in most things I've seen.

I remain skeptical about what this current rendition of The Stand will be like, but I'm hopeful.
I don't know... The book is so good I'll keep my expectations low and maybe I'll be surprised, but reading so far what you think, Warren, I now doubt it.


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Amber Heard's private life aside...
She's actually a pretty good actress in most things I've seen.

I remain skeptical about what this current rendition of The Stand will be like, but I'm hopeful.
I don't know... The book is so good I'll keep my expectations low and maybe I'll be surprised, but reading so far what you think, Warren, I now doubt it.


Well she is playing Nadine Cross so I'm sure she'll be great:p

Like I said, I could be expecting too much, maybe it's excellent.


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Episode 2

Watched ep 2 last night, I won't be going out of my way to spoil anything, but I'll put a SPOILERS ALERT anyway... just in case.

So the rumours were true, Lloyd is a joke, a pathetic, weak charater that Randall Flagg would never enlist as a 2nd in command. It's almost laughable.

The flashback structure seems to be staying, at least until all the charaters are introduced.

This one focused on Larry, Nadine, Lloyd and Rita and like episode one they all still feel very shallow.

Some really bad CGI, I didn't know if I was watching The Stand or Ratatouille at one point and one crazy bad line in, something along the lines of, "Just pretend you're a ninja turtle".

I also feel like they took an iconic scene from both the book and the other series and reduced it to a lame attempt at something new.

First look at Nick as well... meh.

Oh and Ralph is now a female POC named Ray. Too soon to tell if she will do him justice.

I can't say I'm feeling it, but still quite a few episodes to go so it might pick up.



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Why the hell would SK approve his classic novel to be destroyed like this?

Then again, he let them do it to It  >




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Episode 3

SPOILERS maybe...

The flashback structure is a real punish, no scenes are actually given any time to breathe.

Nick's story has been decimated, oh and he's an illegal immigrant now and that actually affects his story in some way, WTF.

Glen is way too young and a stoner now apparently, WTF.

Tom... Just WTF.

I appreciate the slight nod to The Shining, but it's going to take more than carpet to win me over.

I'm also not sure why it needs to be so heavy on exposition, it's longer than the original series, but the original still wasn't so exposition heavy.

I can't handle the stupidity, Randall can possess people (yes that's a thing that happens) and appear at will, but Nadine, the person most connected to him, needs a dumbass gimic that sucks up a lot of screen time to talk to him, WTF.

I'll keep watching, but now it's just to point out what a piece of garbage this is.

How is it even possible to screw this up so badly, I honestly don't understand.



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I'll trust your judgement on this one, Warren.

Sounds like a WTF on all counts.
Such a shame. I was hoping a new version would be good.


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Episode 4

I'm not sure how you take an hour's worth of content from one of the greatest literary works of all time and turn it into such a load of boring shit, but they managed to do it. This episode was particularly painful to watch, with a nice cringe cherry on top to end the episode.

It's particularly hard to swallow because the episode was co-written by Owen King.

Also, 4 episodes in and no Trashcan Man, not that I'm really looking forward to it; I think Ezra Miller is the worst casting choice of the lot.

Not sure whether to keep going or throw in the towel at this point.


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Time to pull the pin on it, Waz. Keep the good memories of the novel intact.  It’s an absolute disgrace that King lets crap like this and It get made.  



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Episode 5

Decided to keep going out of morbid curiosity, the fact that I want to see King's new ending and I do want to see how badly Ezra Miller destroys the Trashcan Man.

Speaking of Trash, more than half way through the series and still not even a mention.

So this series is crap, no two ways about it. 5 episodes in and we still have many of the same problems, the biggest one being the underdeveloped charaters. I'm also finding Franny to be completely unlikable.

Lloyd (or Lloyd's retarded imposter) featured quite heavily. It's embarrasing how much they have destroyed his charater, it was so cringe worthy to watch.

Flagg also isn't really developing into much of anything.

I just don't think the creators knew what to do with the material or the charaters.

Only 4 episodes left, I can do this.


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Waz, a dude on fanedits Reddit has already fixed up the first episode. He was disgusted by his favourite book being desecrated so he made it better



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Waz, a dude on fanedits Reddit has already fixed up the first episode. He was disgusted by his favourite book being desecrated so he made it better


I'll have to check it out.


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