Hi All,

Please read THE GUIDELINES before you post.  Trust me, it will make for a happier experience.

THE GUIDELINES

1. This discussion board is privately run for the discussion of screenwriting, movies, music and poetry.   We reserve the right to:
   a. turn down any application to post for no apparent reason,  
   b. kick anyone off for violating the rules of the board,
   c.  kick anyone off for being a jerk (or jerkette as the case may be),
   d. kick anyone off for no apparent reason.
2. Please be Civil
3. Do not be disrespectful of other members, do not put down other members of the board, do not attack or encourage other to attack a member of the board.
4. You must be 13 years of age or older to post on the board.  
5. PLEASE, DO NOT WRITE IN ALL CAPS.
6. Please post in the correct forum.  
7. Do not spam the board with the same or similar posts.
8. Think before you post. (Whenever possible, think, and think again, before doing or saying anything.)
9. Respond with more than just one or two words.
10. Don't create a username that you just know will annoy someone or some group of people.
   a. Don't create multiple usernames just to have arguments with yourself.
11. When reviewing a script, you should back up negative comments by citing evidence from that script about which the comment is being made.  And never make a negative comment about a person.

12.  More to come. (Ever read Animal Farm?)

In a nutshell.  Be cool.  Be respectful of everyone on the board.  I reserve the right to ban anyone for not following the rules above OR for just being a jerk.  I also reserve the right to ban anyone without a warning or explanation.  It doesn't matter how much you have posted or whether or not you are a moderator (who thankfully have been pretty good about setting the example on the board).

So, If you have hang-ups about the guidelines, here and only here is your forum to complain.

Don

In addition, I've had some folks complain to me about infringing on their first amendment right to free speech.  The right to free speech is the right not to have one's right to free speech infringed by the Government. This is a private discussion board, that each of us agreed to join.  This discussion board is not sponsored by the Government.  The moderators of this board may terminate a thread whenever he/she wants, for whatever reason he/she wants, and he/she is not infringing anyone's First Amendment right to free speech.  Contributing to this site is like being in someone's home - if you say something objectionable to the host, you risk being thrown out of the house on your ear.

Quoted from Don    a. Don't create multiple usernames just to have arguements with yourself.

Has this actually happened? the arguing with yourself part? just curious.

I don't know about using sockpuppets to argue with yourself, but a number of people have used them to praise their own work.  Usually it's pretty obvious.


Phil

Stifler is one such puppet, one of the more note worthy ones anyway.

The rest went under the radar as Don's fast acting but the fact nobody knows about them eventhough I say it all the time and even in the WIP thread I linked to these rules as they are universal.

I agree with all those, because I think it is not a board to show bad manners, but as I said it is a place to exchange ideas, to discuss our works.

Ps I've just a wish to do: don't write abreviations like WIP, QR, PPD etc, because many of member here is new.  Besides is okay and  I want to move in the track!

I think a good rule for the board would be to read something before you put your own script up.  It's extremely irritating to see Little Joey Writer's first two posts both say, "Will someone read my script?"

Unless you submit at just the right time, it'll take a week before your script is posted.  Use the time to read a script or two.

Read mine.  I won't complain.


Phil

That would be nice, but I think it takes a while for a new member to feel comfortable enough to criticize "the big boys".

I tried during my first few weeks here, but I seem to recall giving next to nothing to "The Burnout" -- as I couldn't imagine that you could possibly care less what I had to say.  (Of course, perhaps you still don't  :))

If you enforced such a rule on a new member, you would probably get "This is great!", and not much more.  Then there would be huge pontifications about what constituted a review that was "good enough", with word counts and god knows what else and it would just be a big mess.

I think referring "Little Joey Writer" and those like him to the review exchange board is a subtle enough hint.

Can't wait to rip into "Tower", btw....

Quoted from bert That would be nice, but I think it takes a while for a new member to feel comfortable enough to criticize "the big boys".

They shouldn't feel this way.  That's like saying Hollywood produces movies for movie critics.  It's important that everyone, from the PITA's like myself to Little Joey Writer, like any particular script.  The newbie may see things that the bog boys don't.  Maybe the newbie doesn't understand something the rest of us do.  That should be addresses for the sake of my script as well as his own peace of mind.

Quoted from bert I tried during my first few weeks here, but I seem to recall giving next to nothing to "The Burnout" -- as I couldn't imagine that you could possibly care less what I had to say.  (Of course, perhaps you still don't  :))

If I intend to sell any of my scripts, I should know what everyone thinks.

Quoted from bert If you enforced such a rule on a new member, you would probably get "This is great!", and not much more.  Then there would be huge pontifications about what constituted a review that was "good enough", with word counts and god knows what else and it would just be a big mess.

The newbies should also read other people's reviews.  If you wrote that a particular script was the best out there and the other ten people thought it was trash, you should find out why.  THis is a good way to find out how you should review a script.

Quoted from bert Can't wait to rip into "Tower", btw....

The story is layed out (in my head) and I am working on it.  I'm happy to say that it's not just another script of Whitey kicking ass, but actually a continuation.

Hopefully, I'll have it up before the end of the year.


Phil (Tanuki-free for twelve hours)

Anyway...TriggerStreet has the 2 script requirement to post, and actually takes it one step further and requires 2 scripts per review in you want your script to count in the ranking. It's kind of crazy after awhile. They also require a review of at least 50 words, and there's a quiz at the end of the review to make sure you read the script. This is so people aren't posting a review of "cool" and getting counts to submit their script.

I think the read for a read is a good thing, but I think you can see how such a thing can easily get out of hand.

Plus the message board over there sucks, I tried it out a year ago and it just doesn't have what this site does.

I wouldn't post my work on that site though but I did review a couple short films while I was a member which wasn't long.

The fact that we don't have one of those shows you how much Don cares about "new" writers, trying to help them get better but they aren't living up to their end of the deal so for the most part they get what they give (Nothing)

You can't force people to do things but they soon learn that nothing in life is free.

When Triggerstreet came online, I thought about changing the site to something along that line.  However, I just don't have the financial backing to do that.  Besides, I like my 'everyone gets a chance' niche.  

Don

Triggerstreet is for the big boys.  Many more regulations and requirements, but it doesn't have the community feel as Simplyscripts.  The idea of having little Jimmy read a script before submitting is a good idea, but most of the time when a new guy is begging for their script to be read, they usually give up and leave in a week anyway.

Quoted from Don When Triggerstreet came online, I thought about changing the site to something along that line.

Blech.  Don't do it.  I tried it out, too, and didn't much care for it.

You can't choose what you read, which totally sux.  The first thing I got was in Final Draft, which I couldn't even open, and the next was a rom-com with the logline:  "If you hate rom-coms you will probably hate this."  Sheesh...no offense, Mike.  The third was a slasher that would only have been maybe top 40% of slashers here.

It might be nice to drop screenplays with no activity whatsoever after, like, maybe a year.  That might help clean out "non-members" that are just taking up space.

And now, back to the topic at hand...

Quoted from Don When Triggerstreet came online, I thought about changing the site to something along that line. However, I just don't have the financial backing to do that.  Besides, I like my 'everyone gets a chance' niche.

Maybe you could get Coors. I mean, they have Budweiser. Why not, right? :P

Quoted from bert Blech.  Don't do it.  I tried it out, too, and didn't much care for it.

I agree. I like the feel of this site more just because is feels...I don't know...easier. There's no competition or anything so everyone tends to get along (well, mostly). Also agree with the community comment. Maybe I'm just ensconsed (<--sp?). Now, if you want to devote time to reading a couple of scripts to boost your credits up a little, you can get some quick reads and reviews over there, no doubt about it. But Bert is right about the choosing thing. You can read anything you want, but you can't review what you want (and have it count).

I, too, was hit with a rom-com, but this one had no plot to it. Kinda sad.

Quoted from bert It might be nice to drop screenplays with no activity whatsoever after, like, maybe a year.  That might help clean out "non-members" that are just taking up space.

Might be worthwhile. You could shoot an email to the person who posted it or something. Then again, that might be really time-consuming.

Quoted from greg The idea of having little Jimmy read a script before submitting is a good idea, but most of the time when a new guy is begging for their script to be read, they usually give up and leave in a week anyway.

That would be the unwritten rules. Generally members of our community get reads and those that aren't, don't. I mean, why bother writing a review that will never be read. Before I joined the board and got into it, nothing I wrote was read...or at least, never reviewed.

Quoted from George Willson And now, back to the topic at hand... Maybe you could get Coors. I mean, they have Budweiser. Why not, right? :P

Haha that site looks like a product placement gone bad.  

Man they have some strict rules on that page huh?

Forget Coors, George.  Let's kick it up a notch and go with Absolut  8)

I've actually got an earlier draft of Jack A on Triggerstreet, and it's gotten five reviews so far, 4 were good, and 1 said that it was terrible.  Which was fine, cause I don't expect EVERYONE to enjoy my script, but what really burned my ass?.....A flame about this high (holds hand three feet off the ground) Ba dum dum.

But, seriously, their review was littered with grammar and spelling errors, and they scored what I think is the bare minimum for the review to count.  Plus their first line was something about needing believablilty, to which I said to myself "Self, why is this person reading my script, when that is their requirement?"

I don't know, but I thought my logline was pretty clear.  At least clear enough to give the reader the idea that "Hey, I might have to suspend disbelief a little bit here".


And Bert, no offense taken on the rom-com thing.  I've read some pretty bad ones myself.

I joined TriggerStreet first then joined screenwritersutopia then came here. I’ve posted more here because of some major failings of the other two sites.

Scriptwritersutopia appears to have little or no traffic although I must admit I discovered Charles Deemer, a screenwriting author/teacher/published author on this site and was astounded by what he had to say about writing spec scripts.

TriggerStreet is run by Kevin Spacey’s company Trigger Street Productions and although it may have been a damn good idea at the begining, I think the site is being abused myself..

When I joined I reviewed 3 screenplays, 2 for credit and one for free just for the Hell of it..

I eventually emailed the two screenwriters whose work I’d written reviews for and got  replies from both..

Both screenwriters were very appreciative of my efforts and have kept in touch with me privately with ever since.. One, a guy, asked me to offer more criticism for his screenplay and I suggested I re-write it for him. He agreed and after four days my draft helped him move on to a new draft of his own with correct formatting, better dialogue and better choices for an inciting incident and reversal.. The efforts was obviously useful to him..

The second screenwriter was a female, her screenplay is called HALLS OF MANDRAKE and I don’t mind saying here right now, that this is one of the best spec scripts I’ve ever read. Her story, structure, characters, dialogue, inciting incident, reversal, and her script formatting was blob on, that good.. I wrote a very good review for it because I was bowled-over how amazingly good this screenplay was.. The women emailed me , she said she was so thankful etc. I informed her I really did think that her screenplay was of very high quality and said so in the glowing review..

About a month later, over the Christmas holidays, this lady emailed me and said I was being refered to THE HALLS OF JUSTICE for the review I wrote for her HALLS OF MANDRAKE screenplay.. I thought what the Hell for, for Christ sake??? I was confused... I considered my review to be well structured, impartial and un-biased and analysed and illustrated the various elements of this screenplays stucture..

I visited TriggetStreet.com’s discussion boards to find out what members were talking about.. I found a thread about myself where members were discussing about sending me to THE HALLS OF JUSTICE and I wasn’t allowed into the discussion because I was the one referred.. I’ve since discovered that I was not referred in the end but the reason I was reported for my review was a rival screenwriter was jealous, even envious of the HALLS OF MANDRAKE success, being in the TOP 10 of screenplays on TriggerStreet and the complaint was an attempt to torpedo her screenplay out of the top ten so the complaintee’s script could get access to that coverted top ten slot..

This was a real shity thing to do in my opinion and only goes to show that some people even use corrupt methods to gain higher placings in their rankings on TriggerStreet.com..

I was really disgusted about this and have never been back since..

I’ve since discovered Kevin Spacy isn’t that passionate about films anymore prefering to concentrate on the theatre.. If you look at his movie listings in IMDB you’ll find his output of films has decreased dramatically over the last couple of years.

Kevin Spacey has also vowed not to play psycho characters anymore because he is in a position as an A-list actor not having the need to prove himself in those kinds of roles..

I’ve also discovered Gary Oldman is of the same mind and refuses those roles anymore prefering character parts instead..

Therefore, the hype of TriggerStreet.com does not appear to offer what it purports to..

You’ll find SimplyScripts has a much more friendly community and although there are rules of conduct here I still think Don has got it right how this board runs.. Fair play to you Don...

10. Don't create a username that you just know will annoy someone or some group of people.

Does this go for avatars as well? Also, if someone did have a user name or avatar that was deemed offensive would they be asked to change it or would you delete it?
I ask because I'm writing a script where this situation occurs.
  

That depends.  Will the avatar and/or name offend a lot of people?  Or just one or two?  My avatar offends one person here (that I know of).  But when I changed it for a few days, several people e-mailed me asking that I put it back.


Phil

Quoted from Takeshi 10. Don't create a username that you just know will annoy someone or some group of people. Does this go for avatars as well? Also, if someone did have a user name or avatar that was deemed offensive would they be asked to change it or would you delete it? I ask because I'm writing a script where this situation occurs.

Yes, it goes for avatars as well.  Regarding what happens if I find it offensive?  Depends on how offensive I find it.  If either the username or avatar is mildly offensive I send an email or PM asking the user to change it.  If either are, in my opinion, are very offensive I delete them.

Don

Quoted Text My avatar offends one person here

ew...pugs...

I know how you feel.  I'm not reall fond of them either.

I have a bumper sticker on my car that reads:  "My doberman ate your pug."  Someone asked me about my doberman, one time, and I told her she was gone.  When asked what happened, I replied, "She choked to death on a pug."

I'll be here all the week.


Phil

I hate the noise thay make..sounds like they're choking on something.

"Barphkl! Barphkl! "

Everyone who ever came to this board was once a "Little Joey Writer", assuming they'd be getting some valuable feedback. Rightfully, they should return the favor to the first person who GAVE the valuable feedback.

Newcomers need some time to get used to this site. They don't know anything about past users over-bumping the portal, etc. It's unrealistic to expect them to know.

Triggerstreet now requires four reviews before uploading your script. Their tests are supposed to insure you get readers who've qualified to review your work. That eliminates everyone who doesn't read your entire screenplay. That's great, because you have to see the author's intent, to judge a story fairly. Otherwise, it's just arguing subjective personal opinions and tastes. That's not productive. Whether the author produced what he set out to do is the  critical guideline.

I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.

Quoted from MonetteBooks Everyone who ever came to this board was once a "Little Joey Writer", assuming they'd be getting some valuable feedback. Rightfully, they should return the favor to the first person who GAVE the valuable feedback. Newcomers need some time to get used to this site. They don't know anything about past users over-bumping the portal, etc. It's unrealistic to expect them to know. Triggerstreet now requires four reviews before uploading your script. Their tests are supposed to insure you get readers who've qualified to review your work. That eliminates everyone who doesn't read your entire screenplay. That's great, because you have to see the author's intent, to judge a story fairly. Otherwise, it's just arguing subjective personal opinions and tastes. That's not productive. Whether the author produced what he set out to do is the  critical guideline. I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.

As a recent arrival, I appreciate your comments! It's true, newcomers need time to familiarize themselves with the site. They're going to make a mistake or two. I know I have. Thankfully, the "old-timers" have been forgiving.

Myself, I lurked for a long time before registering. Still, until I actually posted, I had no idea of what was expected of a member. This, no doubt, says more about me than the site. Fact is, there is info, in spades, with respect to what's expected of members. Still, I encourage all to go slow with new members.

Those that abuse the site, though -- the ones that expect reads without reading, ought to be dismissed. Not reading, I think, is the one sin, the blasphemous one, that should see a member kicked. There are others, I'm sure, but being new, I couldn't say what they are.

In any case, being new, I want to reiterate (I've said this in a previous post), critiquing scripts, like writing scripts, is a craft.  It's difficult. That said, there's a learning curve. One that requires time -- allow the new member time.
Thanks,

Seth

Quoted from MonetteBooks I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.

I'm guessing I have one of those avatars....

My avatar is actually of a prop from Pug-umentary.  While it may be offensive to some, it is relevent to the story.


Phil

I had an avatar that was all in good fun but some cry baby told on me. (I know who you are, big baby) If people don't have a sense of humor, you're really in for a rude awakening.

People who are offended by a cartoon (Which was what mine was before) and or Andy's Tanuki thing really need LIVES and for people who want to be professional writers really take too much time looking at avatars instead of writing.

Unless somebody is going to save Phil's avatar and use it to blackmail him in the future, get a life and look at what it is.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley I had an avatar that was all in good fun but some cry baby told on me. (I know who you are, big baby)

Was it the cum splatter one.  I thought that was pretty funny myself

The only reason anybody noticed is because (The baby) told on me. It was animated... it could have been anything (I don't even know if it was that for sure, you never know these days) I will refer to this person as the baby because they do not even deserve to have a name.

It even took Phil about two weeks to notice (Mostly cause I haven't posted much lately) and I intend to keep it that way.

An avatar is something you can change in twenty seconds. If Don found it offensive he could have changed it on me (I believe an admin has that power over his members) and with that, I go back into obscurity.

I've never reported anyone's avatar. If it turns people off, they just don't read your stuff. That seems a pointless thing to do to yourself, since nothing is gained either way. I doubt people come here to look at pictures.

Quoted from MonetteBooks I've never reported anyone's avatar. If it turns people off, they just don't read your stuff. That seems a pointless thing to do to yourself, since nothing is gained either way. I doubt people come here to look at pictures.

Speak for yourself, buddy.  Mike Shelton's avatar keeps me coming back for more every day.  How could you NOT look at that?????

EDIT:  Ah, sorry Monette.  Didn't realize you were a female.  Anyway, I think Rachel would make a female dig chicks as well.  

Quoted from MonetteBooks Newcomers need some time to get used to this site. They don't know anything about past users over-bumping the portal, etc. It's unrealistic to expect them to know.

Which is why I often send a pm to a new member with some advice on how things work here if I notice they may be starting off on the wrong foot.

Quoted from MonetteBooks Triggerstreet now requires four reviews before uploading your script. Their tests are supposed to insure you get readers who've qualified to review your work. That eliminates everyone who doesn't read your entire screenplay. That's great, because you have to see the author's intent, to judge a story fairly. Otherwise, it's just arguing subjective personal opinions and tastes. That's not productive. Whether the author produced what he set out to do is the  critical guideline.

Those people who prefer that way are free to go there and play by their rules.

Quoted from MonetteBooks I don't like seeing avatars that are physically or religiously disgusting. It sure doesn 't help your image as a writer.

I'm thinking you may be referring to my avatar as well. Halloween is coming up, I just finished my first (and last) zombie script so I think mine is pretty fitting. I also highly doubt that I will ever sell any of my scripts, but if someone in the industry is interested in anything of mine, I highly doubt that they would get on these message boards, look at my avatar and say "I wanted to contact her, but when I saw her avatar I decided no way".

Quoted from Seth critiquing scripts, like writing scripts, is a craft.  It's difficult. That said, there's a learning curve. One that requires time -- allow the new member time. Thanks,

English is my second language and I have no education past age 16! This doesn't stop me from having an opinion about a script or a movie. If I ever get good enough to critique professionally, I'll start charging people for my reviews.

Quoted from guyjackson Anyway, I think Rachel would make a female dig chicks as well.

Sorry Guy. Doesn't work for me.
Not going to tell you who would work.....I'll just keep that to myself  ;D

This applies to anyone:

If you put up a grotesque avatar, you shouldn't be surprised, if you get complaints. You should expect it. Calling people names for disagreeing with you makes you the same thing. You put it up; people have a perfect right to react any way they choose. You knew that in the first place. No need to get touchy when it happens.

Quoted from MonetteBooks This applies to anyone: If you put up a grotesque avatar, you shouldn't be surprised, if you get complaints. You should expect it. Calling people names for disagreeing with you makes you the same thing. You put it up; people have a perfect right to react any way they choose. You knew that in the first place. No need to get touchy when it happens.

I'm sorry you feel that way but I was not talking about you. The funny thing is, I could care less about the avatars but since nobody complained and the one person who did happens to have something against me and a reason to do it (Coming soon) I feel that it taints everything you are trying to say.

If you would have said something, understandable but nobody did for two weeks and you were in my thread during the time it was up.

For some reason, my computer doesn't notify me when anyone responds to threads I've checked to hear replies. Eventually, I lose track where the threads were.

It's unfortunate you've experienced a specific troublemaker. This seems to be the bane of public forums. Sooner or later we'll all probably run into it. I've had some
minor occurances already, in my short time on the boards.

At any rate, Don's provided a place for us to exchange ideas on the writing experience. The majority probably appreciate this, and want to make it positive and beneficial, nerds aside.

Quoted from Pia English is my second language and I have no education past age 16! This doesn't stop me from having an opinion about a script or a movie. If I ever get good enough to critique professionally, I'll start charging people for my reviews.

I agree. If one has an opinion, they should voice it.

Seth

I'm the one who complained about Wesley's avatar.  Humorous ejaculation images are for forums on topics of less prestige than scriptwriting.  Scriptwriters -- especially unproduced scriptwriters -- should conduct themselves with morals; otherwise, what dignity will a cast/crew gain from working with your script?  A script can potentially influence a lot of people.  As scriptwriters, we are obligated to ... *distracted by memory of a bunny*

Quoted from Alan_Holman I'm the one who complained about Wesley's avatar.  Humorous ejaculation images are for forums on topics of less prestige than scriptwriting.

But isn't your avatar Fritz the Cat?


Phil

This coming from the guy who posts a pair of breasts in anger when Andy wouldn't change her Tanuki.

You are just mad that I am finally being honest about certain things and this was brought to my attention because of WHERE you reported the post. If you want to act all high and mighty, do so but don't talk to me about morals and dignity.

Glad you came out of hiding to explain such childish actions. Instead of coming to me like a real man.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley This coming from the guy who posts a pair of breasts in anger when Andy wouldn't change her Tanuki.

Ahahaha!  This has to be one of the most absurd statements I've ever read -- and I can only imagine how it must appear to those who have no idea what you are talking about, Wes.

We should probably move on from the avatar discussion, though.  As interesting and amusing as it might be, I am pretty sure that is not what Don intended this sticky thread for.

Quoted from dogglebe But isn't your avatar Fritz the Cat?

Yes.  The character did a great thing; he set out and learned about the world from experience -- rather than from books and observation and speculation -- and created his own wisdom.  He went from naive to wise through that film.  Although I don't agree with all of the lessons he learned on his journey, I think that the important lesson from the film is that only when a person takes their own journey and draws their own conclusions can that person truly begin to grow.  I think that the movie FRITZ THE CAT ended when his true adulthood -- a new journey for learning in its own right -- began.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley This coming from the guy who posts a pair of breasts in anger when Andy wouldn't change her Tanuki.

Yes.  Although I was unable to convince Don of my reasoning for that action, I still believe that I did the right thing.  Would I do it again?  No.  But I still believe in the point which I was trying to prove, and realising that that wasn't the right way to prove that point was a learning experience, and because I learned my lesson, that's why it was the right thing for me to do and I'm glad I did it.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley You are just mad that I am finally being honest about certain things and this was brought to my attention because of WHERE you reported the post. If you want to act all high and mighty, do so but don't talk to me about morals and dignity.

Huh?  What are you finally being honest about?  And why would honesty cause me to be mad?  I like honesty.  And why can't we discuss morals and dignity in a thread about rules?  Morals and dignity the reason for a lot of rules.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley Glad you came out of hiding to explain such childish actions. Instead of coming to me like a real man.

No, I wasn't hiding -- I've been busy lately.  Reporting that avatar was a mature and responsible thing for me to do.  My only regret is that I was hesitant.  But I was only hesitant because I knew it would spawn an annoying debate.

Quoted from Alan_Holman Yes.  The character did a great thing; he set out and learned about the world from experience -- rather than from books and observation and speculation -- and created his own wisdom.  He went from naive to wise through that film.  Although I don't agree with all of the lessons he learned on his journey, I think that the important lesson from the film is that only when a person takes their own journey and draws their own conclusions can that person truly begin to grow.  I think that the movie FRITZ THE CAT ended when his true adulthood -- a new journey for learning in its own right -- began.

Wait, I'm sorry Alan, what were you saying?

Quoted Text No, I wasn't hiding -- I've been busy lately.  Reporting that avatar was a mature and responsible thing for me to do.  My only regret is that I was hesitant.  But I was only hesitant because I knew it would spawn an annoying debate.

The only annoying debate is why you keep posting. The mature and responsible thing for you to do is to become a member or delete your account and make us all happy.

It is obvious to the regulars that you do not care about anything or anyone but yourself and the feeling is mutual.

You only come around when you need reads on your rewrites that shadow in comparison to the originals and in return you never do anything for those people. You send out chain letters and tell us it is our honor to read your work... I feel sorry for you.

Quoted from Alan_Holman And why would honesty cause me to be mad?  I like honesty.

I recall my honesty really pissing you off.  Do you remember your responses when I reviewed Banana Chan?

Quoted from Alan_Holman You see no story?  Are you blind?!  The cat can freakin' talk!  She loves a guy named James, while this guy named Ryone looms in her past!  A kid called her "grannie!"

and

Quoted from Alan_Holman It's the first anime ever, to cover the Buraku issue bluntly!  That fact alone should give human rights activists orgasms!  Ignorant schmuck.

and

Quoted from Alan_Holman The first twenty episodes of Banana Chan tell the most epic tragedy about unrequited love which anyone has ever written in the history of literature.  You sir are an idiot.

Yeah, you like honesty.


Phil

Quoted from Higgonaitor Wait, I'm sorry Alan, what were you saying?

Cool poster!  The kind of people who need to learn the lessons which the movie CAN teach are enticed by that poster to see the movie.  It's kind of like how the first seven minutes of the anime ELFIN LIED are about a hot naked girl killing twenty-three people in a spectacular splatter-fest.  The sexy splatter-fest hooks people to that show which later has scenes which teach the exact moral lessons which the types of people whom the hook hooked might need to learn.  It's manipulative, but it's also curative.  It's why even though Japan has some of the goriest shows, it also has very well-mannered citizens.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley The only annoying debate is why you keep posting.

Not quite the "welcome back" I was hoping for.  I've been very busy with acting in a movie lately, and I haven't been posting as often as I'd like to.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley The mature and responsible thing for you to do is to become a member or delete your account and make us all happy.

I'm not a member?  And how would deleting my account make anyone happy?

*smiles and whistles*

Quoted from Old Time Wesley It is obvious to the regulars that you do not care about anything or anyone but yourself and the feeling is mutual.

It's unfortunate that you've imagined that inaccurate assumption about my character.  I like you, Wesley; I always have, and this doesn't change that.  

Quoted from Old Time Wesley You only come around when you need reads on your rewrites that shadow in comparison to the originals and in return you never do anything for those people. You send out chain letters and tell us it is our honor to read your work... I feel sorry for you.

"That shadow in comparison to the originals."  WHEN the show is produced, you will be mad at me for adjusting after the draft that you enjoyed.  I don't care.  It's my story, and the draft that you enjoyed the most, isn't the draft that I enjoy the most.  Just be happy that you read it when it was enjoyable to you.  And since I provided you with that level of enjoyment, your negative attitude is unappreciated.

Quoted from dogglebe I recall my honesty really pissing you off.  Do you remember your responses when I reviewed Banana Chan?

My spin-doctor says that I don't remember ever making those comments ... so no.

Quoted from Alan_Holman My spin-doctor says that I don't remember ever making those comments ... so no.

Well, my mailbox remembers them, which isn't hard to do since I never deleted them.


Phil

This discussion has nothing to do with the rules which is the topic of this post. Alan, if you have something to say, take it to General Chat, and for the love of God, don't reply to this thread.

Quoted from George Willson This discussion has nothing to do with the rules which is the topic of this post. Alan, if you have something to say, take it to General Chat, and for the love of God, don't reply to this thread.

Looking back at this thread -- in all fairness -- it is not just Alan "feeding the beast" here.

But George is right.  This thread is supposed to be about the rules.

It's one of the most important threads on the board, you know?

To continue this debate -- which admittedly I do find amusing -- well, that's what Don gave us General Chat for.  Or better yet, consider PMs.

This thread is on notice -- expect your off-topic posts to be deleted from this point forward.

Quoted from bert But George is right.  This thread is supposed to be about the rules.

I believe there is a rule against being abusive to others.


Phil

Quoted from Don 1. ....   We reserve the right to:    ....      b. kick anyone off for violating the rules of the board,    c.  kick anyone off for being a jerk (or jerkette as the case may be),    ... 2. Be Civil 3. Do not be disrespectful of other members, do not put down other members of the board, do not attack or encourage other to attack a member of the board. 8. Think before you post. (Whenever possible, think, and think again, before doing or saying anything.) 11. When reviewing a script, ... never make a negative comment about a person.

Yep.  Them's the ones!


Phil

Thanks for the help Don!