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Posted by: Scoob, January 20th, 2005, 2:36am
Apparently, Halloween - Asylum.

A source got in touch with FANGORIA with some news about the ninth HALLOWEEN film, currently in development. "The new movie is called HALLOWEEN: ASYLUM," the scooper tells Fango, "and it’s being written by Matt Venne—whose spec horror script SECOND SIGHT is being produced by Clive Barker’s Seraphim Films—for SUICIDE CLUB’s Sion Sono to make his North American directorial debut. HALLOWEEN: ASYLUM is being set in Smith’s Grove, which became a maximum security penitentiary/asylum after the breakout of ’78. It’s filled with deranged killers and Michael is awaiting execution, harking back to the horror-hospital setting of HALLOWEEN II. This is not going to be some neutered VS. movie, not filled with campy one-liners, etc. Rather, it takes the iconic Michael Myers back to his roots in a very cool setting. It’s really serious/scary/suspenseful in tone, like all the best HALLOWEEN films have been." No one from the HALLOWEEN camp has officially confirmed these details, but we’ll let you know more as we find it out. —Michael Gingold

i doubt this personally, it seems to fan made, but hey, its got to be better then the last one.
Posted by: Chris_MacGuffin, March 1st, 2005, 10:19pm; Reply: 1
Here's some info on the film courtesy IMDb:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373883/
Posted by: Scott_Fortner, March 8th, 2005, 10:43pm; Reply: 2
Lets hope this film is not made I mean I love the Halloween series but enough is enough, let it die already....
Posted by: Chris_MacGuffin, March 8th, 2005, 10:58pm; Reply: 3
Well if they must write continue the series then they should go to Halloween 10 and end it there.
Any further then that and they're just beating a dead horse with a stick.
Posted by: Scoob, March 9th, 2005, 2:40am; Reply: 4
As long as it does well at the box office, there will be another. And then another.
Should have ended it at H20, that was a great ending.
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, March 9th, 2005, 3:21am; Reply: 5
It's also DVD sales, Resident Evil both did mediokre i believe in theatres but DVD sales cleaned up, PA even mentioned the reason the film did so well was the dvd sales.

I'll admit it, I bought Halloween Resurrection on dvd and enjoy it. Out of every dvd I'v ever bought I only hate 1 which is Head of State, really lame film so I think I've been lucky in my film selection.

I enjoy 1 or 2 of these films now and than, but when you get into 3 times viewing it they start to show there weaknesses and you understand how all the cry babies feel but it's important that you enjoythem for what they are and not cry over water under the bridge.
Posted by: Nixon, October 8th, 2005, 4:42am; Reply: 6
The Weinstein Brothers are planning to remake the film-

Info here

-Zavier
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, October 8th, 2005, 5:11am; Reply: 7
Wow this is the greatest idea ever...  :-/ :-/

Why don't they just make another sequel though? I enjoyed Busta Rhymes fake sickly karate.

Why screw with a film people already like, if they remake Friday The 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street as well they really will go to hell... Maybe they should stop making crappy films and give this money to Hurricane survivors and the poor instead of paying bad actors big salaries for nothing.
Posted by: George Willson, October 8th, 2005, 7:56pm; Reply: 8
There are some movies out there that are good ideas that were badly executed. I wouldn't mind remakes of those movies to clean up whatever went wrong the first time. The trouble is people don't remake clunker movies to make them better; they remake classics to make a buck off of them.

Halloween is a well made film that despite its character flaws, still manages to do what it is meant to do and be very creepy. There is no need to remake this film or "update it for a modern audience." What would be the purpose? I guess so those people who refuse to watch movies older than they are will watch it.

Talk about a pet peeve (to only change the subject slightly)...why do people not watch movies older than they are? I watched a show once where the question was "Who directed the 1971 film, A Clockwork Orange?" The idiot responded, "I don't know. I wasn't born until 1974." Where do these idiots come from, and why don't they know about VHS or DVD or even Laserdisc?
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, October 8th, 2005, 8:20pm; Reply: 9
If it makes you feel better George I'm trying to buy the original Frankenstein Legacy Collection which is really older than I am. I just am not sure if it's worth 40 bucks or not and all of the reviews I've seen are not helping my decision.

They're making another Mortal Kombat movie but it's probably straight to crappy DVD in the bargain bin to die faster than a suicide bomber on a mission.
Posted by: Scoob, October 8th, 2005, 9:45pm; Reply: 10
Hopefully this news will turn into another false rumour concerning a new Halloween film.
I would certainly welcome a new part in the series but certainly not a remake. What is the point in that? (Mind you, same could be said for the last film in the series.)

This recent remake fad was really bugging me in any case, but to redo a film that was only made in 1978 is just stupidity.
Posted by: George Willson, October 9th, 2005, 2:12am; Reply: 11

Quoted from Old Time Wesley
If it makes you feel better George I'm trying to buy the original Frankenstein Legacy Collection which is really older than I am. I just am not sure if it's worth 40 bucks or not and all of the reviews I've seen are not helping my decision.


I've watched 3 of the 5 movies on the Frankenstein Legacy. Strangely, as the sequels go on, they get better (as long as you ignore the strange lack of continuity between films when it comes to the Frankenstein estate). Frankenstein was all plot, no character. The Bride of Frankenstein was all character, no plot. And The Son of Frankenstein had a refreshing mix of both and was 30 minutes longer because of it (not to mention starring Basil Rathbone, Boris Karloff, AND Bela Lugosi...that's a 1940 all star cast). It was due back at the library before I watched the last two. Someday I'll check it out again and finish it.


Quoted from Old Time Wesley
They're making another Mortal Kombat movie but it's probably straight to crappy DVD in the bargain bin to die faster than a suicide bomber on a mission.


You're probably right. Unless there is a compelling dramatic storyline behind all the fighting, it will likely be crap. I am attempting to write a zombie movie for an ultra low budget filmmaker, and I spent a lot of time not focusing on zombies. He's a gorehound wanting to kill, hack, and slash with blood and gore and boobies, and so far, I have a 44 page script (note: quite unfinished at this point, but hey,  it's only been two days since I started :P ) with only 2 deaths, a quest for a cure, a love triangle, a budding romance, and no boobies. I told him we could add in the gratuitious violence in the way of random deaths between the core storyline scenes later...and that I'd work on the boobies.

He says it's "kickass" but I suspect he's imagining where he'll put the topless zombies...yeah, he said topless zombies...don't worry -- remember the compelling dramatic storyline. You're all thinking about topless zombies, aren't you? Oy.

To sum up: Halloween Remake? Don't mess with a classic.  
Posted by: -Ben-, October 9th, 2005, 3:36am; Reply: 12
i agree remakes usually mess up the film...but i can'tyt help but be curious how they will remake such a classic? ZFor eg. wil lit have the great score from the orignal? Will Micheal be as menacing? This possibilities are good, but there's ne thing they can't remake-the effect the origanal had on the audience. The orriganal created the slasher genre, the nesw one cant do that. Slashers have been around foerr ages, and people hate the things. So im jkjust curious how they will make this piece of carp.
Posted by: George Willson, October 9th, 2005, 2:06pm; Reply: 13
Halloween didn't create the slasher genre. Nor did it create the menacing monster walking around going for unsuspecting teens. Psycho did a part in creating this aspect, but Halloween is, in essence, a monster movie which have been around as long as films have (Frankenstein, The Mummy, Dracula, etc.). The Mummy had four sequels that (true to form) disregarded the original story, blew the continuity using some of the original footage, and made a monster lumber around and somehow kill people. Halloween created nothing new in the industry. What it did do was bring it back. It drew on al those ancient films and ideas and brought them to the modern audience of 1978. It did this without remaking any of those old movies that had done it before.

Halloween was and still is a great movie. John Carpenter did a great job bringing all the elements together and turning out a good product. If someone is itching to try and bring the monster movie back to life, they should do what John Carpenter did: create your own monster and your own story and make it an original piece using those tried and true elements. Gus Van Sant tried to remake Psycho frame by frame. It failed. Why? Because people still wanted to watch the original. A remake of Halloween will also fail.
Posted by: Balt (Guest), October 9th, 2005, 3:44pm; Reply: 14
While I agree HALLOWEEN was nothing new, it wasn't then and it isn't now... It is still a good flick and it doesn't garner a remake. Maybe a new edit, but not a remake.  

As for slasher films... TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE and if you want to get really technical, even before it in 1963, BLOOD FEAST created the slasher genre.  Psycho wasn't really a slasher movie, not to me... it wasn't even good, really... It was a blue print I suppose.

Anyways, maybe in the remake of HALLOWEEN they can fix the absurdity in a DR carrying a gun around and all them palm trees looming around in the background of HADDONFIELD ILLINOIS. LOL!
Posted by: bert, October 9th, 2005, 4:07pm; Reply: 15
Not to be a nudge, but the first, real slasher was probably "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", which came out in 1919.  It was a German film about a sleepwalker that roamed the streets killing vicitms.  Not very bloody, but great-looking, whacked-out sets ("expressionistic"), and pretty shocking for it's day.

Just so you know...
Posted by: Balt (Guest), October 9th, 2005, 4:24pm; Reply: 16
I believe in order to make it a slahser you have to have a motive to why you're killing... Maybe you're right, though... I don't know. I don't know of too many 1919 movies, though either.

A slasher to me is someone who kills for motive. BLOOD FEAST, TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE, BLACK CHRISTMAS, GORE GORE GIRLS, GRUESOME TWOSOME, movies as such... are slashers. JACK THE RIPPER "the original" was a slasher... I'm not to sure about a sleepwalking guy.

I'll look into that one, though. As I've never seen it before.
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, October 9th, 2005, 4:44pm; Reply: 17
Damn the American film industry has already begun remaking the film you mentioned Bert... It's like they knew you were going to say it and wanted to ruin a classic as on IMDB it's top 250 films of all time.

Balt maybe you should get the enjoyment from your favorite films before they butcher them and do remakes or a sequel or two.
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 9th, 2005, 4:57pm; Reply: 18

Quoted from Balt
I believe in order to make it a slahser you have to have a motive to why you're killing... Maybe you're right, though... I don't know. I don't know of too many 1919 movies, though either.

A slasher to me is someone who kills for motive. BLOOD FEAST, TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE, BLACK CHRISTMAS, GORE GORE GIRLS, GRUESOME TWOSOME, movies as such... are slashers. JACK THE RIPPER "the original" was a slasher... I'm not to sure about a sleepwalking guy.

I'll look into that one, though. As I've never seen it before.


You don't need a motive to make/be a slasher film. all you need is a serial killer (which everyone is, in a flim like this) and you got a slasher. motive is an attempt at trying to have a reason to justify what is going on. Jason kills because his Mom was killed and because of his death by neglect, because there is a reason behind it, it is not as scary.  a killer with no reason/motive is more scary than one with, IMO anyways.

Just my Opinon, i could be wrong though.
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 9th, 2005, 5:09pm; Reply: 19

Quoted from Old Time Wesley
Wow this is the greatest idea ever...  :-/ :-/

Why don't they just make another sequel though? I enjoyed Busta Rhymes fake sickly karate.

Why screw with a film people already like, if they remake Friday The 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street as well they really will go to hell... Maybe they should stop making crappy films and give this money to Hurricane survivors and the poor instead of paying bad actors big salaries for nothing.



I could see a remake of Friday the 13th happening, well because the 1st one sucked, but that could also be because i grew up knowing about Jason and when i saw the 1st one i was dissapointed the hockey face killer i knew wasn't there. also almost anyone can be Jason.

remaking Nightmare on elm st, that my good sir is utter blashpemy, you should be stoned for even mentiong it (not really) NO ONE,and i mean NO ONE, can be Freddy the way Robert Englund is, to say other wise is,well,Blashpemy. also Heather Langencamp is,was, a total babe who had some skill in acting. thats rare now adays.
Posted by: Balt (Guest), October 9th, 2005, 7:00pm; Reply: 20
Friday the 13th was the best of the bunch, only second to part 2... what are you talking about?  & I stopped taking you serious when you hinted at ANOES being good and having good acting.

Truth is... Those aren't slasher films... not really. TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE is a real slasher film. A BLADE IN THE DARK is a real slasher film... BLACK CHRISTMAS is a real slasher film.

Jason and Freddy are super hero's.
Posted by: bert, October 9th, 2005, 7:25pm; Reply: 21
I am surprised you've never seen "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", Balt.  The sleepwalker (called "the somnambulist") is under the control of the good doctor, who keeps him locked in a cabinet.  Later, the makeup for Frankenstein was clearly modeled after that of the somnambulist.

True students of the genre need to have a look at this one.  Not much by today's standards, sure, but these guys...they are the ones who truly broke new ground and paved the way for just about everything that came after.
Posted by: George Willson, October 9th, 2005, 9:03pm; Reply: 22
The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari is on my very long list of things to watch. I put it there after I watched Metropolis and learned it was also from Fritz Lang. I incidentally found White Zombie from 1932 with Bela Lugosi in the $1 DVD horror movies for Halloween. Had to pick it up. It's the first zombie movie and a totally different idea than George Romero came up with for his Dead series and everything that followed. It reaches back to the revenant idea of controlled humans using voodoo, etc. or something like that.

I'm all about finding the original groundbreakers and seeing what made movies work and not work in the beginning. And for those who have not seen METROPOLIS, the special effects are unreal for 1927. Lang exposed the same scene over 30 times to create some of the stuff in there.
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 10th, 2005, 12:19am; Reply: 23

Quoted from Balt
Friday the 13th was the best of the bunch, only second to part 2... what are you talking about?  & I stopped taking you serious when you hinted at ANOES being good and having good acting.

Truth is... Those aren't slasher films... not really. TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE is a real slasher film. A BLADE IN THE DARK is a real slasher film... BLACK CHRISTMAS is a real slasher film.

Jason and Freddy are super hero's.



I never said ANOES had good acting, i said Heather Langencamp had "DECENT" acting, which for a horror flim would be true, most horror movie actors can't act, she was decent compared to the others cast, excluding Robert Englund who just rocks.(sorry Fanboy-ness is showing through)


I should have mentioned i saw Friday number 1 when i was like 8, after having seen the other fridays before it, i was dissapointed, mainly because No Jason, so at the time,being a kid, you can see why i would think it would suck.


Freddy and Jason are not super hero's, regardless of how many times they come back, they are still serial killers at heart.

Posted by: George Willson, October 10th, 2005, 12:44am; Reply: 24
The primary problem with a lot of horror movie actors is not hat they can't act, it's that they are very inexperienced at acting and often dealing with a script that lacks in any character which does nothing for their experience. Some actors can breathe life into a POS script, and some scripts are so dead, that no life can be given to them, even if Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, Will Smith, Julia Roberts, and Helen Hunt all starred in it with Laurence Olivier (having risen from the dead) playing the bad guy killer.

Most horror scripts tend to focus on the hunt and kill more than the development of characters meaning that with only bad dialogue to work with, actors are cursed to deliver a less than stellar performance.

Friday the 13th was mostly about the hunt and kill with a heck of a twist in it. It had a clever motive that is lacking in most of the subsequent parts (Two continued from one also having a motive, albeit slimmer than one). Sorry you were disappointed to not find your hockey masked hero, but he didn't get the infamous mask until part 3-D. Jason wore a sack over his head in part 2. 3-D is about when the series fell into the toilet and confused everyone when it kept going.
Posted by: Balt (Guest), October 10th, 2005, 1:21am; Reply: 25
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Couldn't have said it better.

Although, Freddy and Jason are superhero's... they are. They can't die. They're super strong. They do things only super hero's can do... Alright, alright, alright... I'll give you the superhero bit.

... But they are super villains. They are something that could show up in a batman comic book... It's absurd and just stupid! ANOES is just plain friggin' stupid!
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 10th, 2005, 1:26am; Reply: 26

Quoted from George Willson
The primary problem with a lot of horror movie actors is not hat they can't act, it's that they are very inexperienced at acting and often dealing with a script that lacks in any character which does nothing for their experience. Some actors can breathe life into a POS script, and some scripts are so dead, that no life can be given to them, even if Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, Will Smith, Julia Roberts, and Helen Hunt all starred in it with Laurence Olivier (having risen from the dead) playing the bad guy killer.

Most horror scripts tend to focus on the hunt and kill more than the development of characters meaning that with only bad dialogue to work with, actors are cursed to deliver a less than stellar performance.

Friday the 13th was mostly about the hunt and kill with a heck of a twist in it. It had a clever motive that is lacking in most of the subsequent parts (Two continued from one also having a motive, albeit slimmer than one). Sorry you were disappointed to not find your hockey masked hero, but he didn't get the infamous mask until part 3-D. Jason wore a sack over his head in part 2. 3-D is about when the series fell into the toilet and confused everyone when it kept going.



Yeah,sure, lots are inxperinced, but not all.  normaly i can tell the diffrence between an actor that got a bum wrap and one that really can't act.


I  know, i always refer to the Jason in Part 2 as Ku Klux Jason, because the sack, at times, looked liked a bad klans man hood. part 3 confusing? No, stupid? yes. "FT13th part V: a new begining" (i think) is were it got confusing. what the heck were they thinking with the "Jason" impersonator? stupid as heck, not to mention part 8 and in some ways part X.

I may be a Freddy and Jason Fanboy, but im not afraid to say most the movies suck.

Yes i have  rewatched part one since then (the last time a year or so ago) and found it to be a lot better than when i was 8 or so, but it still feels like it's lacking. maybe it is just me.
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 10th, 2005, 1:45am; Reply: 27

Quoted from Balt
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Couldn't have said it better.

Although, Freddy and Jason are superhero's... they are. They can't die. They're super strong. They do things only super hero's can do... Alright, alright, alright... I'll give you the superhero bit.

... But they are super villains. They are something that could show up in a batman comic book... It's absurd and just stupid! ANOES is just plain friggin' stupid!


fine i'll give up the fact there uber-untouchable and this is something comics are made of (whats funny is that as we speak a whole slew of Nightmare and friday comics are out there,new ones might i add.) but there still slasher flicks.

i just read somthing that is what i want to say but didn't think of it.

"Slasher" flick? You mean a flick in which the primary purpose is not horror but to watch people die?"-?

that pretty much defines a slasher flick, IMO. we go see them to watch the people die, not to be get spooked.

things like Jack the ripper are supenseful, not slashers, because the bulid up to the death is what gets you, not the kill.

Posted by: George Willson, October 10th, 2005, 8:43am; Reply: 28

Quoted from theprodigalson
part 3 confusing? No, stupid? yes. "FT13th part V: a new begining" (i think) is were it got confusing. what the heck were they thinking with the "Jason" impersonator? stupid as heck, not to mention part 8 and in some ways part X.


It's not the movie that was confusing. I was referring to be generally thrown off by the series continuing to continue. 3-D was horrible with shots thrown in just to play with the 3-D effect. It's hard to be confused by a simple plot, but why the simple plot gets sequels? That's confusing.

Posted by: Jdawg2006, October 10th, 2005, 8:31pm; Reply: 29
okay... back on topic... who should play the new laurie?

my vote goes to andrea bowen, teri hatcher's daughter on desperate housewives. she's plain enough, but still she can be pretty hot.

i think a Halloween remake is better than another sequel. when you look back on the franchise, it's not really that great. the original is probably the best one, and it's not that scary anyway. if they make a remake, it'll be good as long as the stick to the original concept, just have michael meyers be some fucked up psychopath. why's he gotta be laurie's brother? that's too complicated for a good-old-fashioned slasher flcik. maybe the remake could actually be scary!!?? maybe that's too much to ask, though
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, October 10th, 2005, 8:52pm; Reply: 30
Are you aware she is only 14 or 15? How can she play such a big role at that age in an R rated film? They usually use older teenagers or 20 year olds and call them teenagers.

Judging by her age and the release of the original Jamie Lee Curtis was about 20 when it came out which goes to what I was saying and no Andrea Bowen cannot be hot because if it's an R Rated movie like I know everybody would want older guys will go see it and well do you think we want to see a 15 year as hot?

I'm just saying that probably given her age, no chance in hell she'll get the part unless it becomes a PG-13 film and even than probably not.

I'm thinking they'd use a girl like... Eliza Dushku or Emmanuelle Chriqui but to me they all look the same.
Posted by: theprodigalson, October 10th, 2005, 11:47pm; Reply: 31

Quoted from Jdawg2006
okay... back on topic... who should play the new laurie?

my vote goes to andrea bowen, teri hatcher's daughter on desperate housewives. she's plain enough, but still she can be pretty hot.

i think a Halloween remake is better than another sequel. when you look back on the franchise, it's not really that great. the original is probably the best one, and it's not that scary anyway. if they make a remake, it'll be good as long as the stick to the original concept, just have michael meyers be some fucked up psychopath. why's he gotta be laurie's brother? that's too complicated for a good-old-fashioned slasher flcik. maybe the remake could actually be scary!!?? maybe that's too much to ask, though



No,forget that. i want to know who will play Dr. Loomis? i was thinking about the guy that played the priest in "The Exorcism of Emily Rose",Tom Wilkinson. he seems like he could fit the part.
Posted by: greg, October 16th, 2005, 10:38pm; Reply: 32
How the heck is a new remake of Halloween better than a sequel?  Halloween was a great film, tarnished by like 6 sequels, the latest being Resurrection which ranks high on my list of worst films of all time.

Why do we care about a remake?  Oh we get to see one of film's biggest killing icons through the eyes of someone else even though he's exactly the same.  I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but when this film comes out I will cuss for several hours.

Which was worse?  Jason X or Halloween Resurrection?  Hey!  That's a good poll question!
Posted by: Balt (Guest), October 17th, 2005, 1:01am; Reply: 33
I'm to the point of not even fighting remakes no more. They're gonna happen. They're gonna suck. People will love them cause they're cutting edge and trendy and the story will end. Happy and ten fold.

I'm sick of remakes. I'm sick of follow ups. I want originality. I don't see why everyone black balls independent horror films so much... along with low budget ones. They are the only ones who are getting this shit right! Hollywood is so far shot thru the ass it can't stand the taste of its own food no more.

Halloween was flawed, yes. It had palm trees all over the place and could be seen in nearly everyone of the day shots.

Michael Myers didn't get his mask until 43 minutes into the movie, yet he had the mask on when Tommy got his pumpkin smashed and ran into him at school. He also had it on when Jamie lee dropped the key off at the house and he walked outside and watched her walk down the sidewalk.

I mean, the movie was flawed with no continuity... BUT... it was still a classic. It's still good to this day and it still holds up very well.

That's the funny thing... all these movies they are remaking... still do hold up well. They are all still better than the new counter parts and all the follow ups that will follow them... I'm so sick over remakes of brilliant horror movies.

I'm just glad Fulci's shit can't be tarnished. Thanks in part to Saige Stallon buying up the rights to all of his work except his final project... which was never finished. :(

I'd just die if Hollywood got their paws on his movies. They'd loose every single thread of what made them what they were. I swear, if I had to see a Hollywood fucking mockery of DR. FREUDSTEIN on the big screen... I'd throw my milk duds and bottle of water at the screen and protest!

DR. FREUDSTEIN is the most horrific. Ghastly. Scary. Creepy. Haunting horror movie figure of all time. Nothing can ever come close to this man... he's just... I'm, to this day, still housing fear for this man. Fulci created the most bizzare movie monster of all time and he'll never be given credit for it.  It's a sad sad world we live in.
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, October 17th, 2005, 7:31am; Reply: 34
Balt the only way to escape bad film remakes is to move to a country where they don't show American film for about 5 years and by then nobody will care.

Or you could just get drunk and forget about it the old fashioned way, either is good.
Posted by: greg, October 17th, 2005, 5:36pm; Reply: 35
Well the numbers will start to show that we're sick of remakes/adaptations/sequels.  It seems like Hollywood put more effort into the R/A/S department rather than the original stories, because the original stories especially this summer stunk!  I just did a presentation on why the summer box office stunk, and aside from marketing and junk, I came to an interesting figure.  The combined budgets of the following: Dark Water, Rebound, The Brothers Grimm, Stealth, The Island, Bewitched, Valiant, A Sound of Thunder, XXX was a whopping $830 million dollars.  Collectively, they grossed a horrendously bad $275 million, a loss of over $550 million.

That's just the summer.  If these numbers continue in upcoming years then Hollywood will finally realize "Hey, maybe we should try to come up with some better original stories because our R/A/S's stink!"  I mean come on, does "The Three Stooges" with 3 females sound incredibly fantastic?
Posted by: Matt Mosley, October 23rd, 2005, 8:30am; Reply: 36
*choking on tears*
Posted by: Nixon, March 5th, 2006, 10:24pm; Reply: 37
Some news on the possible sequel here

-Zavier
Posted by: George Willson, March 5th, 2006, 11:26pm; Reply: 38
I guess I'll believe it when I see it. I've had this one on my Netflix list forever, and it never seems to actually surface. Maybe they'll let it die a slow painless death.
Posted by: Nixon, June 2nd, 2006, 6:46am; Reply: 39
According to Fangoria, shock-rocker turned filmmaker Rob Zombie (House of 1000 Corpses, The Devil's Rejects) may be in talks to steer the next Michael Myers film.

-Zavier

Posted by: The boy who could fly, June 2nd, 2006, 11:57am; Reply: 40

Quoted from Nixon
According to Fangoria, shock-rocker turned filmmaker Rob Zombie (House of 1000 Corpses, The Devil's Rejects) may be in talks to steer the next Michael Myers film.

-Zavier



that would be interesting, I loved the devil's rejects, maybe he can pump up some fresh blood into the series, even though it seems almost impossible after the last one.
Posted by: Zombie Sean, June 2nd, 2006, 12:01pm; Reply: 41
I just hope it isn't like Halloween 3 where it has nothing to do with the other films.

Sean
Posted by: darthbrion, June 2nd, 2006, 1:19pm; Reply: 42
As long as Micheal Myers does go into outer space and kill people lol you know a horror series has hit bottom when the bad guy shows up in space - Jason, Leprechaun, Hellraiser.
Posted by: Nixon, June 5th, 2006, 2:21am; Reply: 43

Quoted from James McClung
Apparently, Rob Zombie is directing (remaking?) a "new" Halloween.

Here's the link:

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14833

All I have to say is... lame. I'd always thought Rob Zombie would lend a hand at bringing back some old-school style horror but apparently I was wrong. Probably should've known better. Again... lame.


Look four posts up. (from yours) :)

-Zavier
Posted by: The boy who could fly, June 5th, 2006, 10:07am; Reply: 44
sounds pretty cool.  I guess if they were able to save the batman franchaise they may be able to do the same with this.  I hope it works :D
Posted by: Combichrist, June 5th, 2006, 12:59pm; Reply: 45
I know this is only a film and all, but how many times are they going to have Myers come back to life, and kill him again. Even for Hollywood this has become far fetched. I assume it is going to be Myers?

The last couple of films done good, but this is taking it over the top IMO. I think I'll just make myself a little shelter and seek refuge when this one is released to avoid all those trailers and so on. LOL!!
Posted by: Scoob, June 5th, 2006, 5:59pm; Reply: 46
It's been confirmed that Rob Zombie is indeed directing, writing and producing the next Halloween film, according to the official site.

Looks like he will also score the soundtrack.

Zombie's vision of this film is an entirely new take on the legend and will satisfy fans of the classic "Halloween" legacy while beginning a new chapter in the Michael Myers saga. This new movie will not only appeal to horror fans, but to a wider movie-going audience as well. It will not be a copycat of any prior films in the "Halloween" franchise. The film is set for an October 2007 theatrical release.

Bob Weinstein stated, "Rob Zombie is a gifted musician and performer as well as a talented filmmaker. His vision for this new 'Halloween' is spectacular and I am thrilled to be collaborating with him and to work closely with Malek Akkad to continue the legacy built by his father, the late Moustapha Akkad."

Zombie said, "I have been a huge, huge fan of John Carpenter's original film since its release. So when Bob Weinstein approached me about this, I jumped at the chance to join forces with Dimension Films on this amazing project."

"I am thrilled to be working again with Rob and with Dimension Films on such an iconic project that will reinvigorate 'Halloween' and Michael Myers in a truly terrifying new way," stated Andy Gould, Rob Zombie's long time manager and producer of Zombie's two previous films.


Hmm. Interesting. Not too thrilled myself, rather gutted.
I just prey this does not end up like House Of A Thousand Corpses, I thought that was complete cod.
Posted by: Balt (Guest), June 5th, 2006, 6:01pm; Reply: 47
Let us all forget that the concept for Halloween was stolen material from a left over Bob Clark interview on the behalf of John Carpenter to begin with.

Rob needs to reinvent the series, maybe he can make it a semi original idea... Maybe???
Posted by: Scoob, June 16th, 2006, 9:34pm; Reply: 48
Very small Q&A on the Halloween site, http://www.halloweenmovies.com. about what Rob Zombie plans to do with this.

Basically it sounds like the majority of this film will be a prequal and then the latter will be a slight remake of H1.

Sounds good and bad to me. I know a lot of people dont care much about these films either way and that is fair enough. But as a hardcore fan (sad but true), I think the good is that this guy might actually make a Halloween film that is not just a copy of the original. What I mean is that every sequal is basically just trying to be Halloween 1 all over again anyway so Im up for a different approach. Going back and then explaining the whole thing is good for an alternative storyline and making it a bit different so that can only be good.

The bad, for me, is Michael Myers does not need explaining. The moment you explain him then the whole point is over, really.  
I dont like remakes and this is, despite the talk, is one.
Im not really all for a prequal either, but I will look forward to it nonetheless.

On a good note, at least the original John Carpenter theme tune will definitly be involved!
Posted by: Scoob, January 5th, 2007, 8:36pm; Reply: 49
Apologies if this thread exists - I have looked back and could not find one.

Malcolm McDowell is playing Dr.Loomis in the remake that begins shooting on Jan 29th and Tyler Mane (X-Men - Sabretooth?) is playing Michael Myers.

Im sure fans have read all about it, and the casting report which is hopefully a joke.

Major spoilers on the link :

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/7683

Posted by: chism, January 5th, 2007, 9:30pm; Reply: 50
I'm not a big fan of remakes, especially horror remakes. They tend to be just terrible, I don't think I need to list the most recent autrocities that we've been tortured with, I'm sure you all know what I'm talking about. But Rob Zombie just seems to be able to do the near impossible these days: make a good horror film. I haven't actually seen any of his films myself, but I have actually heard some very good things about The Devil's Rejects so this may not be a bad idea at all.

I suppose that going back to the beginning of the series is a lot better than them doing a prequel or yet another sequel. I don't even know how many there are now, I think I heard that it was eight or nine films in all. I'm not sure if I'll see this one or not, I haven't even seen the original one. So maybe I'll check them both out and see.

By the way, does anyone know if they've cast the young Michael Meyers? I know he kills some people when he's like five years old so I was wonder if they had cast the role yet. Hopefully it's a kid who's really creepy.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: George Willson, January 6th, 2007, 12:56am; Reply: 51
Halloween had a total of eight films. By the sixth film, they were going down a very cerebral path of a legend which caused Michael to do his kills, and since that was rapidly losing its target audience (albeit somewhat interesting), they basically restarted it with H20 allowing you to watch 1, 2 and then skip to H20 and Resurrection, avoiding all the films inbetween (so you can get around the idea that Laurie Strode abandoned her child when she "faked" her own death). It's not a bad series really, and John Carpenter's original film is sufficiently creepy and worth watching if you haven't yet.
Posted by: Scoob, January 6th, 2007, 1:31am; Reply: 52
As a massive Halloween fan, I have to say I was very dissapointed with the appointment of Rob Zombie as director. The guy is no where near what I would call a good director nor a good storyteller. I think The House Of 1000 Coprses is a complete disaster of a film.

I have not seen The Devils Rejects and I wont until I can see it free. I have seen little bits here and there but what I have seen mostly revovles around the type of crap I dislike in horror movies - gore, explict langague, needless scenes. It'ts just not scary to me and while it may be shocking or whatnot, I think it is just trash cinema.

I hope I eat my words when this comes out, but I really doubt it.
Posted by: Nixon, January 6th, 2007, 3:39am; Reply: 53

Quoted from Scoob
Apologies if this thread exists - I have looked back and could not find one.


Yeah, there was an original thread. Weird thing is, you were the one that started the original thread. Things get even weirder; I found another Halloween remake thread, created by me. They’ve all been merged.

-Zavier
Posted by: greg, January 7th, 2007, 1:29am; Reply: 54

Quoted from Nixon


Yeah, there was an original thread. Weird thing is, you were the one that started the original thread. Things get even weirder; I found another Halloween remake thread, created by me. They’ve all been merged.



*Twilight Zone theme*

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.  So yeah, I read up on this a while ago.  The 500th Halloween sequel came out in 2002 I believe, so now the series is being restarted through Zombie's image(and you know there will be sequels).  I think Zombie did a fantastic job with "Devil's Rejects" as it was a huge step forward from the original H1000C, so I'm hoping he can pull something great off here and reverse my skeptism.  
Posted by: chism, January 7th, 2007, 1:45am; Reply: 55
Well I find Malcolm MacDowell to be appropriately creepy so I don't think he'll be any disappointment. The movie I think rests on the rest of the cast and the writer. But you know what they say: if a movie is successful, it's everybodies contribution that made it great, but if it fails it's all the director's fault. Like all other upcoming films, horror or no, we'll have to wait and see. This could be the best horror movie since The Descent, which I realise isn't all that long ago but I couldn'd think of a good horror movie that has come out in the last five years or so besides that one.

At the very, very least Zombie will make an interesting film. If it's not good, then at least we'll know it will be different. I don't pretend to be a big fan of his, but I've heard that his films are both good and bizarre so, as I said, we'll see how we go when the film hits theatres.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, January 9th, 2007, 1:22am; Reply: 56
Here's some more cast listings:

Dr. Loomis - played by Malcolm McDowell
Young Michael Myers - played by Daeg Faerch
Adult Michael Myers - played by Tyler Mane
Deborah Myers - played by Sheri Moon Zombie
Mason Strode - played by Pat Skipper
Cynthia Strode - played by Dee Wallace Stone
Ronnie White - played by William Forsythe
Big Joe - played by Ken Foree
Nole Kluggs - played by Lew Temple
Ismael Cruz - played by Danny Trejo

I think that is 5 that were in Zombie's last two movies. That does not concern me as I have no problem with directors using actors they feel are reliable and trustworthy to do the job.

Ken Foree, what a legend, is only playing a small role as are most of the above so it will be quite interesting to see who has the major lead. In that I mean who will play Laurie. Rumours are Danielle Harris (who played the kid, Jamie Llyod in Halloween 4 and 5 ) might be, but I think she will get a different part.

The guy that is playing Myers is the same guy that played someone called Sabretooth in the X-Men. Im not too hot on knowldege about that film but he is apparently 6"10 and a pretty big guy. Not too keen on making Myers a Jason type of character but hey.

Dee Wallace from the Howling and E.T. sounds quite interesting though.

Posted by: chism, January 9th, 2007, 1:42am; Reply: 57
Hey Danny Trejo is gonna be in it. That's cool, I've loved him since Desperado.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, January 9th, 2007, 2:28am; Reply: 58
Danny Trejo, me too Chismeister. He's an actor that I think can play both a villain and a good guy and pull it off pretty well.

In seperate roles of course.

In this, he's down to play one of the male nurses at the mental hospital, and the only description I found is he is to play a sympathetic one.

I dont know what to make of Sherri Moon's involvement, but I guess it is unfair to comment on something that has not even begun shooting yet.

Posted by: Scoob, January 13th, 2007, 11:07pm; Reply: 59
Oh dear.

Here is a link to what is reportedly an early draft review of the new Halloween film.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31221

I have a feeling this will be the real deal, and if so, I believe Halloween : Resurection will no longer be the worst film in the franchise.




Posted by: chism, January 14th, 2007, 5:22am; Reply: 60
Oh dear. That doesn't sound good.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, January 26th, 2007, 1:20pm; Reply: 61
Filming has apparently begun and there were protestors at the site!

As much as I am against the ideas Rob Zombie seems to want to use in this film, I dont think protesting against it will do anything else then give it more publicity.

This has to be one of the most interesting but bizarre productions in a while.

http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=6557

Posted by: chism, January 27th, 2007, 8:46pm; Reply: 62
Oh Jesus. Things don't look like they're going very well at all.

Protestors on the set. That's hilarious. Oh well, I'm keeping my faith in Rob Zombie until the movie comes out. If it fails then it fails and everyone was right but if it succeeds then it'll be good for all.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: chism, January 28th, 2007, 4:08am; Reply: 63
Lorie Strode has been cast. How do you like these apples picked from the eternal fruit tree that is http://www.comingsoon.net:


Quoted Text
Rob Zombie has cast actress/singer Scout Taylor-Compton (An American Crime, Sleepover) as Laurie Strode in his new take on Halloween at Dimension Films. Strode was originally played by Jamie Lee Curtis in the "Halloween" films.

Also starring in the August 31 release are Malcolm McDowell, Daeg Faerch, Tyler Mane, Sheri Moon Zombie, Pat Skipper, Dee Wallace Stone, William Forsythe, Ken Foree, Lew Temple, Danny Trejo, Hanna Hall, Danielle Harris, Adrienne Barbeau, Clint Howard, Courtney Gains, Daryl Sabara, Heather Bowen, Brad Dourif, Udo Kier and Kristina Klebe.

Halloween is currently shooting in Los Angeles.


Well there you have it, kids. There you have it.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: The boy who could fly, January 28th, 2007, 4:09am; Reply: 64
LOL.......I know a girl who is in this.  How messed up is that.
Posted by: Scoob, February 2nd, 2007, 10:31pm; Reply: 65
Well, there are a few script reviews floating around at the moment and none of which really boost my hopes although the reviews seem to Zombie-friendly.

The most indepth one can be found here:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=Reviews&req=showcontent&id=1312

How real it is? Up to anyones guess really.

Personally, Im not into baseball and watersports and have a slight problem with them being used as something of a supposedly "disturbing" element.  Cant say Im surprised, it is Rob Zombie.

Anyhow, shall wait and see until I deliver my wrath.
Posted by: chism, February 5th, 2007, 4:15am; Reply: 66
Baseball and watersports as dangerous elements? I don't even see how that could work as a disturbing element without being really, really stupid. I mean someone could be forced to swallow a baseball bat, but that would look kinda funny.

I dunno. Something is off about that.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Nixon, March 2nd, 2007, 2:37pm; Reply: 67
Shock-rocker turned director Rob Zombie has revealed the new Michael Myers from his re-imagining of Halloween




-Zavier

Update: Almost forgot, Bloody-Disgusting recently revealed the first ever picture of Michael Myers' house from the set of Rob Zombie's Halloween.

Posted by: chism, March 2nd, 2007, 9:38pm; Reply: 68
Hey he looks pretty creepy. Still think Jason is scarier. There's something about that hockey mask that freaks the hell out of me. But Zombie has a good vision for all things weird and terrifying, so at least the movie will have a good look.

The house looks pretty cool as well. Looks like the house a serial killer would live in. I'm guessing that's what they were going for.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, March 12th, 2007, 10:34am; Reply: 69
Heres a little clip of whats happening with the new Halloween film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNiXrFjpEY8

Looks pretty promising.

Im glad certain things have also been dropped from the early draft that was leaked earlier this year. I think the script that I read was decent and has a lot of potential. The dialouge was a shambles however so I expect that to be cleaned up something chronic.

Scenes that have been reported as being cut are below:

SPOLIERS









The masterbation / Animal killings

The little girl murder / Urination  ( I actually hope they keep this scene in, but remove the pointless pissing scene)

The baseball bat sodomy mention!

Dialouge changes ( as expected )

Michael no longer speaks as an adult ( I still would put money on him saying one thing at the end though)

A completly different ending ( Which is a shame as the ending I read was pretty impressive)

I also read that Dimension were behind a lot of the changes. I cant really blame them. They apparently do have a lot of faith in Rob Zombie and are supporting him but they are keeping a constant check on his changes.

I have to say Im a lot more positive about the film now then I was a few months back.
Posted by: jstrbb, March 12th, 2007, 7:37pm; Reply: 70
I have little hope in this film unless it is anything like the Hill's Have Eyes remake... if not, then it will most likely follow the same consant pattern of bad remakes that hollywood has been spitting out lately.
Posted by: Scoob, March 12th, 2007, 11:55pm; Reply: 71
Personally, I am looking forward to the prequal segements of this film more then the remake. Its cliched as hell if it is going by the leaked draft, and I still dont think there is any need at all in remaking Halloween of all horror films.

But I have a feeling it will be quite surprisingly good.
Posted by: chism, March 13th, 2007, 1:15am; Reply: 72
Zombie seems to have put a couple of interesting ideas behind the movie.

Making Michael Meyers a more sympathetic, almost Frankenstein monster-esque character could go either way, but hopefully it works out for the best.

The cast is terrific, especially for a slasher flick.

But again, we'll have to wait till Halloween to see how the whole thing pans out.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, March 25th, 2007, 5:58pm; Reply: 73
The film has finished shooting and editing begins Monday.
A trailer is set to be on the Grindhouse movie which is April 6th I believe.

As for the title, well , surprise surprise, it will be called simply "Halloween".
Posted by: chism, March 25th, 2007, 6:44pm; Reply: 74
No way! Boy, did not see that coming. I mean, seriously, where do they pull this stuff from? Jeez.

Anywho, I'm actually looking forward to this movie, which is strange, 'cause this isn't really my kind of movie. I'll be keeping an eye out for the trailer.

Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, March 26th, 2007, 12:41am; Reply: 75
Same here Chismeister, Im looking forward to it aswell but really hope this wont turn out to be a sex orgy/bloodbath with constant swearing and sex references.

I just think it will be either really good or really bad.
Posted by: Zack, March 28th, 2007, 8:42am; Reply: 76
I have a really good feeling about this movie. I really think Rob Zombies Halloween will turn some heads (in a good way). I expect no less than a very solid horror film.
Posted by: Nixon, April 6th, 2007, 9:47pm; Reply: 77
Head over to Yahoo! Movies to check out the first trailer.
Posted by: chism, April 6th, 2007, 9:56pm; Reply: 78
Wow. That actually looks really good. Really scare.

Looks like Zombie's done a good job. Visually, at least.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, April 6th, 2007, 9:57pm; Reply: 79
Yep, looks great to me.

I've been looking forward to this for ages and it looks like it is going to be the best Halloween in a long time.

I've had my doubts, but going by the trailer, it looks really impressive to me.

Posted by: Zack, April 6th, 2007, 10:47pm; Reply: 80
This is going to be insane!!! Nothing can prepare us for the hell we are in for!!!!
Posted by: chism, April 9th, 2007, 6:02am; Reply: 81

Quoted from Zack
This is going to be insane!!! Nothing can prepare us for the hell we are in for!!!!



I think that's overstating it just a little, but at least you're excited.


Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Cirrus, April 9th, 2007, 8:42am; Reply: 82
I love all the Halloween Movies and I am so looking forward too this movie, a lot of people have their doubts but I feel he can pull it off and it's going to be the best Halloween Movie we have seen in a long time, well atleast since Halloween 4  ;)
Posted by: chism, May 12th, 2007, 9:08am; Reply: 83
It's been reported now that Malcolm McDowell (Dr. Loomis) has signed on for not one, not two but thee Halloween movies in total. From http://www.comingsoon.net:


Quoted Text
While talking about playing Linderman in NBC's "Heroes," Malcolm McDowell also briefly discussed taking over the role of Dr. Loomis in the new Halloween, directed by Rob Zombie.

"I've signed for three," said McDowell, "How about that? They obviously think it's going to be a big hit."

McDowell has never seen any of the "Halloween" movies, and Zombie told him not to. "It's a new look, it's a reinvention of it and he is completely different, my Loomis, I presume. So I guess there will be some people that will be sort of disappointed if they think I'm just going to copy [Donald Pleasence] because I'm not."

Halloween hits theaters on August 31.



Cheers, Chismeister.
Posted by: Scoob, June 20th, 2007, 5:04pm; Reply: 84
AICN have a review for the first Halloween test screening that was last night.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33079
Posted by: Zack, June 22nd, 2007, 12:35pm; Reply: 85
So Rob Zombies Halloween is more of an action film than a horror film... I think I can deal with that.
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