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SimplyScripts Screenwriting Discussion Board  /  Questions or Comments  /  Why no comments
Posted by: joybunny, March 21st, 2006, 9:21am
:'(I have had 73 hits and no responses...What gives? Does my work stink? Or is it because this site is mainly for books and movies? And the title is "CSI;  A Nice Lady" not "CSL..."
Posted by: Antemasque, March 21st, 2006, 9:33am; Reply: 1
Review other peoples work and i'm sure they will check yours out. We don't read everything that pops up on here and that is your best chance on getting it read.
Posted by: bert, March 21st, 2006, 9:33am; Reply: 2
Hello Joybunny.  A "hit" does not always equal a "read", and seldom is this an indication of the quality of the work.

This is your first post.  Perhaps nobody even knew you were around, and people hate commenting on works when the author isn't even around.  It happens more than you might think.

Members that are active on the boards -- that people have gotten to know -- and particularly those that take the time to comment on the works of others -- are the ones who tend to get read.

So welcome to the boards -- belatedly -- and if you make yourself known a bit more people might start reading instead of just "looking".
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), March 21st, 2006, 10:20am; Reply: 3
Over two months ago, you submitted a script and now you write your first post?  And it's to ask why no one's read your work?  Why should I read your script, over Bert or Andrew's (or anyone else who contributes to these boards)?

I don't have the time to read everyone's scripts.  For this reason, I don't read scripts from those who don't read other people's work.

And the hits refer to how many people looked over your log line in the drama boards, not how many people read (or even opened) your script.


Phil
Posted by: FilmMaker06, March 21st, 2006, 11:13am; Reply: 4
That just kind of shows how little you know about this site. You ask if its because this site is more for books and movies...its called "SimplyScripts." You haven't even taken the time to look around the site...just at your thread.

But I think you get the point...and if you don't read anyone elses script, then you aren't getting read. Not because we "hold the door and expect a thank you," but because, like Phil said, we don't have time to read every script, so we have to pick and choose which one's are good, which one's are bad, and which one's don't have an active writer...

Its not that hard of a concept to get...I was lucky enough to get reviews on my script without even knowing this board was here...even if the, eh, reviews weren't that good...lol...
Posted by: greg, March 21st, 2006, 6:15pm; Reply: 5
Hey, show me yours and I'll show you mine :)

Actually in this case it should be reversed.  I'll show you mine and then you show me yours :)
Posted by: George Willson, March 21st, 2006, 7:19pm; Reply: 6
I know for myself, I don't typically comment on stuff when those comments won't be read. It's too much trouble to go to for what appears to be nothing. This doesn't necessarily mean that the script hasn't been read, though, since I've read stuff and left no comments on it. There is no sin in announcing yourself on your own thread to say you're here. Some people have nothing of their own to be read, and those people may go ahead and read what you have and comment. Others want to be read in return, and hey, we're most of us writers and we write to be read (and eventually seen). Some of us can come off a little harsh in this area, but if you hang around, you'll be read. It's only a matter of time. Don't disappear, get angry, or feel hurt when your script gets no reads. There are a lot of scripts on here. Sometimes you just need to do something to get noticed. Kind of like being read by a studio exec.
Posted by: Zombie Sean, March 21st, 2006, 8:35pm; Reply: 7
Listen to all these people, joybunny, they know a lot about this site and they know how to write scripts. It took me a while to figure out how this site works and how to get comments on my scripts. Good luck on your future scripts and welcome to the boards...

...or is it a little too late? Hmph.

Sean
Posted by: joybunny, March 22nd, 2006, 5:16pm; Reply: 8
Geez! Since this is my very first attempt at something of this sort (this type of site), I naturally assumed that you all were experienced enough that any criticism you could give me was out of experience and education and not coming from someone who has never critiqued another's work.  I didn't feel worthy of giving others advice at this point. It isn't as though I didn't feel obligated or didn't want to waste my time...
Sorry...
Posted by: George Willson, March 22nd, 2006, 5:28pm; Reply: 9
The thing is that we never know who is lurking and we've commented on works before where the writer never read what we'd written (or at least never told us they did). Most of us don't mind reading and commenting on stuff as long there is someone to read the comments.

You shouldn't feel unworthy of giving your opinions on others' work. If you're witing, that usually means you've watched a story or two on TV or film, so you would have at least an opinion from that perspective which is just as worthwhile as an opinion from someone who studies the craft and structure and such. Everyone has something to contribute to a critique, no matter where you come from.

Incidentally, if you wish to check out your thread, I read your script. Why? Because you asked.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), March 22nd, 2006, 8:29pm; Reply: 10

Quoted from joybunny
Geez! Since this is my very first attempt at something of this sort (this type of site), I naturally assumed that you all were experienced enough that any criticism you could give me was out of experience and education and not coming from someone who has never critiqued another's work.  I didn't feel worthy of giving others advice at this point. It isn't as though I didn't feel obligated or didn't want to waste my time...
Sorry...


Don't feel that being a newbie means your opinion is less imoprtant than anyone else's.  Your opinion does count.  And a fresh set of eyes may pick up things that us old-timers may not.

Reading other scripts is also a learning experience for the new reader.  Read a script and see if your opinion differs from others.  See HOW it differs from others.  You might also pick up things like formatting and story-telling technique.

Don't be bashful.  We were all where you are now.




Phil

Posted by: FilmMaker06, March 22nd, 2006, 8:56pm; Reply: 11
Phil...a newbie!?!?!? Nah! You've been here forever...I could just see that...Phil...new...ha!
Posted by: Alan_Holman (Guest), March 22nd, 2006, 9:55pm; Reply: 12

Quoted from joybunny
I didn't feel worthy of giving others advice at this point.


That's very ironic.  Hi, nice to meet you :)

I like to get critiqued by ANYONE.  I think a lot of people are like me in that way.  No matter who you are, your expressions of what you like about a story, and what you don't like about a story, are valuable to the person who wrote that story.  

If you say something about yourself in the introduction board, then people will know who the comments are coming from.  A writer might want their story to be loved by people with one personality type, and hated by people with another personality type.  Negative criticism by someone who SHOULD hate a particular story is a GOOD thing.  Any  words from someone who read a story at all, re-assure a person that the act of writing actually resulted in the sharing of a story.

So you're looking for people to comment on your story, eh?  Good luck.  If and when you don't have time to review other stories, another way to get people to read your story is to be nice.  Nice, but not a push-over.  If you have an immediate need for readers, however, then you must be theatrical in your discussion-board persona.  But "discussion board theatrics" can backfire if you're not careful.  Being nice and contributing to other discussions, and reviewing other scripts, is a better idea if you have the time.
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, March 23rd, 2006, 3:07pm; Reply: 13
If we have to tell 1 more person to read other peoples work I'm going to stop being nice and my wrath will be felt. Smiley Faced Wesley will disappear...
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), March 23rd, 2006, 3:11pm; Reply: 14
I'm ready to drop a piano on a couple of people's heads.


Phil
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, March 23rd, 2006, 3:34pm; Reply: 15
If only Don would change curse words to the word Piano... Better yet call newbies Piano's, that way we avoid stupid pop culture references.
Posted by: FilmMaker06, March 23rd, 2006, 3:57pm; Reply: 16
Its not that hard to catch on to...I mean theres like, what, 40 different times that this type of thing has happened, and yet people STILL won't learn.
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), March 23rd, 2006, 5:11pm; Reply: 17
Maybe the phrase, 'dropping a piano on you,' could be interpreted as killfiling you (I wish we could actually killfile some people here).  We can add it to the 'lava lamp' and 'cork tree' list.

Several times, I've posted that I'm not going to comment on someone's script because they don't comment themselves.  Then other post comments for these people.  Kinda defeats the purpose of what I'm saying.


Phil
Posted by: bert, March 23rd, 2006, 5:15pm; Reply: 18

Quoted from dogglebe
Several times, I've posted that I'm not going to comment on someone's script because they don't comment themselves.  Then others post comments for these people.


That's because they are trying to make you look like a big meanie --

-- it's called "giving you the piano."
Posted by: Turtle, March 26th, 2006, 12:30pm; Reply: 19
hello,

i'm new here too and i felt just like joybunny at first.

until i realized that this site is in a way like the real writers market.you have to fight for exposer.emmerse yourself in the community, make contacts, and never worry about offending someone.(though, using tact is always an effective way to communicate)

i am a working writer with a few projects in gestation and i was looking for a means to network with other writers, new or otherwise, when i am working on a new idea or screenplay.so far i have found that this site is a wonderful way for me to do that.i'm enjoying it greatly.

so, joybunny, keep at it, keep reading, keep writing don't lose sight of the reason we are all here...to tell stories!

whisper your scream scream your whisper

---kotton
Posted by: Don, March 26th, 2006, 1:32pm; Reply: 20
I may go back to putting discussion board names on scripts provided that we don't have another rash of username changes on the board.

Don
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), March 26th, 2006, 3:18pm; Reply: 21
Maybe you can make it a rule where people can't change their names, Don.  Or make it where they can't.

Or maybe wwe can drop a piano on them.


Phil
Posted by: Herodreamer79, March 26th, 2006, 3:26pm; Reply: 22

Quoted from George Willson
I know for myself, I don't typically comment on stuff when those comments won't be read. It's too much trouble to go to for what appears to be nothing. This doesn't necessarily mean that the script hasn't been read, though, since I've read stuff and left no comments on it. There is no sin in announcing yourself on your own thread to say you're here. Some people have nothing of their own to be read, and those people may go ahead and read what you have and comment. Others want to be read in return, and hey, we're most of us writers and we write to be read (and eventually seen). Some of us can come off a little harsh in this area, but if you hang around, you'll be read. It's only a matter of time. Don't disappear, get angry, or feel hurt when your script gets no reads. There are a lot of scripts on here. Sometimes you just need to do something to get noticed. Kind of like being read by a studio exec.


Get noticed in a GOOD way... not like what I did.  ;)

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Quoted from Don
I may go back to putting discussion board names on scripts provided that we don't have another rash of username changes on the board.

Don

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maybe posting their real names and their discussion board names on their scripts???
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, March 26th, 2006, 6:15pm; Reply: 23
Kotton actually if you don't worry about offeding people you'll be banned (It's a rule not to offend people) just thought you might like to know that since the rules are beyond your reach.

It's all about respect, how can we respect people who just want everything for themselves and give nothing in return?
Posted by: Turtle, March 27th, 2006, 3:11am; Reply: 24
sorry i must not have been clear,

i don't mean offending someone personally. i only meant in your honest comments of a work.tactfull yet honest.i'm sure we all appreciate that.

thanks for the "rules" reminder

---kotton
Posted by: FilmMaker06, March 27th, 2006, 11:22pm; Reply: 25
I think this thread is pretty much done and should just be done with. We've cleared up why he didn't get comments in the first place, and thats all he asked for.
Posted by: guyjackson (Guest), March 27th, 2006, 11:32pm; Reply: 26
I thought Joy was a girl...
Posted by: FilmMaker06, March 27th, 2006, 11:36pm; Reply: 27
Oh, well, he/she! :D
Posted by: George Willson, March 28th, 2006, 12:05am; Reply: 28
I also don't show where she ever returned after I commented on her script.
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, March 28th, 2006, 10:52am; Reply: 29
And the cycle of members who join and leave continues... what else is new?

I personally love this "I've been browsing these boards for a long time but never joined" nor did they read anything or comment to that persons e mail oh how silly of us to think they'd change once they join.

High five George. (I've always wanted to use that on a message board, feels good.)
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