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Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock, April 2nd, 2006, 4:03pm
question about FADE IN: / FADE OUT:

are they supposed to have these behind them? : ::: :

like CUT OUT: does? these :::::: :

or are they supposed to be like this?

FADE IN

FADE OUT

or

FADE IN:

FADE OUT:
Posted by: FilmMaker06, April 2nd, 2006, 4:07pm; Reply: 1
Fade in has : but Fade out has .

So,

Fade in:

Fade out.
Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock, April 2nd, 2006, 4:30pm; Reply: 2
gotcha, thanks!
Posted by: Kevan, April 2nd, 2006, 4:48pm; Reply: 3
Rapture, you're incorrect man..

FADE IN:

                                                                                                        FADE OUT:

That's how they are..

The above are termed as transitions and any transition whether on the right or left of the page are always completed by a colon..

All screenplays should begin with a FADE IN: and end with a FADE OUT:

It's always nice to add:

THE END

at the end of a screenplay also..
Posted by: Handle, April 2nd, 2006, 4:56pm; Reply: 4
I thought FADE IN: was right aligned now (changed within a couple years).  Is this incorrect?
Posted by: George Willson, April 2nd, 2006, 4:57pm; Reply: 5
If it leads into a slugline, it has the colon. The period is not always there, though.

For instance, FADE IN would be used:

FADE IN:

EXT. CEMETARY

FADE OUT leads into nothing, so it would be FADE OUT. It shoudl be flush right double spaced after the final line of action and actually contains no period or anything following it, though it can if you feel so inclined.

There is a seldom used convention that rarely has an application but it has come up before. It involves an action line leading directly into a slugline where a secondary heading would not be appropriate.

INT. FACTORY

Joe runs through the factory dodging large pieces of equipment. He slams into the outside door. Bright floods into:

EXT. SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN OUTSIDE THE FACTORY - DAY

Married transition. ta-da!
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, April 3rd, 2006, 1:02pm; Reply: 6
Why does Final Draft push Fade In to the right instead of the left where it is supposed to be?

The only way around that is to put FADE IN: as action instead of a transition like it's supposed to be.
Posted by: George Willson, April 3rd, 2006, 1:35pm; Reply: 7
Transitions are usually right justified with the exception of FADE IN. That's a reason why you need to know some formatting even if you do have a program that helps. Final Draft also imports secondary headings as sluglines and I have to classify them as actions too, since they aren't supposed to the double spaced. Same goes for intercuts, montages, series of shots, and quite a few otherthings that FD has no classification for. It handles the major stuff, but for the detail work, you still need to know what you're doing.
Posted by: guyjackson (Guest), April 3rd, 2006, 1:43pm; Reply: 8
I personally don't even think it matters how you type FADE OUT, because in one of my spec scripts that I sent out, I ended with

                                   CUT TO:

END CREDITS

and I didn't receive any negative feeback on it.  They said they liked the story and that's all that matters.

So if you write a decent enough story, I don't think it matters what your FADE OUT looks like.  I don't know if companies are really anal about formatting like that, but if they are and they don't accept your script, it's probably not a bad thing because if they did buy it they would probably be real dickheaded about your involvement and/or rewrite ideas during the whole process.  

Just my two cents.    
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, April 3rd, 2006, 2:06pm; Reply: 9
I learned everything I know from reading screenplays, I use Final Draft because it formats screenplays in the right column. Otherwise it's useless.
Posted by: George Willson, April 3rd, 2006, 2:31pm; Reply: 10
I am fond of the extras in FD. I really don't need it for the formatting.
Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock, April 3rd, 2006, 2:50pm; Reply: 11
could we BE bigger geeks?
Posted by: Old Time Wesley, April 3rd, 2006, 2:55pm; Reply: 12
Yes, if you actually spend 200 bucks on a program like Final Draft which George himself said isn't that great for a writer. If he can teach people how to use Word for free maybe he should charge people 20 bucks so his service is over 150 bucks cheaper ha-ha

Geeks are people too. Also have you read this definition of the word "geek" A carnival performer whose show consists of bizarre acts, such as biting the head off a live chicken.
Posted by: FilmMaker06, April 3rd, 2006, 3:08pm; Reply: 13
I said "Fade out." because, like George said, it leads to nothing, so you can't put a :


Landon

PS: Does that mean I need to put Fade in: on the left side?
Posted by: George Willson, April 3rd, 2006, 11:45pm; Reply: 14

Quoted from FilmMaker06
PS: Does that mean I need to put Fade in: on the left side?


Both FADE IN and FADE OUT are optional in a spec script. If you have a scene, it can be assumed you probably faded into it the first time.

Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), April 5th, 2006, 8:33am; Reply: 15

Quoted from Old Time Wesley
Yes, if you actually spend 200 bucks on a program like Final Draft which George himself said isn't that great for a writer. If he can teach people how to use Word for free maybe he should charge people 20 bucks so his service is over 150 bucks cheaper.


You could also buy an old version of Final Draft on ebay.  I bought v5 when v6 had come out and IIRC, I paid about 100 bucks for it.  At the very least, it's a great time saver.


Phil

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