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Posted by: Seth, August 21st, 2007, 5:33am
I checked out the main page of SS and was confronted with an ad. Yes, the bills have to be paid, so doing my bit,  I clicked on  -- "Who is your celebrity cell mate." You've probably seen it. I answered numerous questions, hoping my cell mate would be Lindsay Lohan. I know most of the public thinks she's a slut. Maybe she is; maybe she isn't. If her last name was Beatty, though, we wouldn't ask such questions. We'd just admire her.

Yes, I know she does drugs. Big deal. Everyone does drugs, Prozac, Viagra, whatever. Some are legal, some aren't. It's just too bad that some, given their "drug of choice" end up in jail. It's incredibly hypocritical ~ we watch TV and pretend to have virtues, morals, etc.,yet, pop pills, down drinks, anything to get us through the night.

But we're good people. We should be proud ~ at least we're not like her, or, worse yet, her parents. It's a good thing we're not human. It's nice to be perfect.

Somewhere, I read that the last perfect christian died on the cross. I wish all the other "perfect" christians would do the same. Perhaps then we could get past this idea that people who have medical problems, like alcoholism, are sinners.  

Anyway, in the end, I was asked for an e-mail address. I refused to give it -- get too much spam already.

Whatever,

Seth
Posted by: movemycheese, August 21st, 2007, 6:50am; Reply: 1
Yeah, it's the same as most of those IQ tests adds. You spend time answering all the questions and in the end they want your email address.

I agree with you on the Lindsay Lohan issue though. Not sure if I would pick her as my celeb cellmate, but I wouldn't complain if it was her.
Posted by: Death Monkey, August 21st, 2007, 8:50am; Reply: 2

Quoted from Seth
I checked out the main page of SS and was confronted with an ad. Yes, the bills have to be paid, so doing my bit,  I clicked on  -- "Who is your celebrity cell mate." You've probably seen it. I answered numerous questions, hoping my cell mate would be Lindsay Lohan. I know most of the public thinks she's a slut. Maybe she is; maybe she isn't. If her last name was Beatty, though, we wouldn't ask such questions. We'd just admire her.

Yes, I know she does drugs. Big deal. Everyone does drugs, Prozac, Viagra, whatever. Some are legal, some aren't. It's just too bad that some, given their "drug of choice" end up in jail. It's incredibly hypocritical ~ we watch TV and pretend to have virtues, morals, etc.,yet, pop pills, down drinks, anything to get us through the night.

But we're good people. We should be proud ~ at least we're not like her, or, worse yet, her parents. It's a good thing we're not human. It's nice to be perfect.

Somewhere, I read that the last perfect christian died on the cross. I wish all the other "perfect" christians would do the same. Perhaps then we could get past this idea that people who have medical problems, like alcoholism, are sinners.  

Anyway, in the end, I was asked for an e-mail address. I refused to give it -- get too much spam already.

Whatever,

Seth


As for the drugs-thing and Lindsay Lohan, I don't object so much to her doing illicit drugs but the manner in which she does. She obviously has no control over it, which is evident from her numerous incidents involving crashed cars. I believe it is possible to do (most) drugs responsibly, but the reason why there is a law against is it exactly because of "party people" like Lindsay Lohan.

Also, it should be noted that just because you drink heavily and go to rehab it doesn't mean you're an alcoholic or have a physical craving for it. It could just mean you're spoilt and really LIKE to drink. Going to rehab is as much a publicity stunt as anything.

That's what I can't stand about Lindsay, Paris, Nicole and the rest. It's all about the excess lifestyle. Excess drugs, excess money, excess exposure. Gimme, gimme, gimme, me, me, me!

You wouldn't know it from watching TV, but there are far more fascinating people out there, and out here that could use just a little attention.

...

*Roared the insignificant speck of dust.
Posted by: Seth, August 21st, 2007, 12:54pm; Reply: 3
Death Monkey,

You're absolutely right. If Lindsay can't drink or do drugs responsibly -- and by that I mean, at the very least, not getting behind the wheel of a car, she shouldn't engage in such activities. I do think she has a real problem (unlike some who go to treatment simply to improve their image).

I just think it's hypocritcal the way the public so hates her.

Seth
Posted by: Death Monkey, August 21st, 2007, 2:10pm; Reply: 4
I'm not too familiar with the American tabloids, so I can't really comment on how she's treated.

Personally, I think the press should spend their time on other things.

The other day I saw a 4 year-old-blind Korean kid play Mozart on the piano on youtube. He had 12,000 views.

Paris Hilton's interview with Larry King had what? 3,5 million? And I bet she can't even hum the Sesame Street song.
Posted by: Shelton, August 21st, 2007, 2:28pm; Reply: 5
I think 3.5 million views vs. 12,000 has more to do with people hoping to spy clips from "One night in Paris" than press coverage, which is pretty sad when you're on YouTube.  I'd bet the teeny-boppers contribute quite heavily to that as well.

I remember seeing some clips online about a year ago, about amn autistic kid who was an equipment manager for a HS basketball team.  The coach gave him some time to play during the last game of the season and he lit it up, hitting I think 6 threes.
Posted by: Andy Petrou, August 31st, 2007, 1:00pm; Reply: 6
DAMMIT! LOL! And there I was thinking this was a proper question to the folks here!(minus a quiz)... My answer would have been.... drumroll please... BORAT! Ok, Sacha Baron Cohen, lol! GOOD TIMES!

::)
Posted by: ABennettWriter, August 31st, 2007, 1:40pm; Reply: 7
I did something like that a few days ago, and then it wanted my cell phone number.

I don't think so.
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 9:26am; Reply: 8

Quoted from Seth
I checked out the main page of SS and was confronted with an ad. Yes, the bills have to be paid, so doing my bit,  I clicked on  -- "Who is your celebrity cell mate." You've probably seen it. I answered numerous questions, hoping my cell mate would be Lindsay Lohan. I know most of the public thinks she's a slut. Maybe she is; maybe she isn't. If her last name was Beatty, though, we wouldn't ask such questions. We'd just admire her.

Yes, I know she does drugs. Big deal. Everyone does drugs, Prozac, Viagra, whatever. Some are legal, some aren't. It's just too bad that some, given their "drug of choice" end up in jail. It's incredibly hypocritical ~ we watch TV and pretend to have virtues, morals, etc.,yet, pop pills, down drinks, anything to get us through the night.

But we're good people. We should be proud ~ at least we're not like her, or, worse yet, her parents. It's a good thing we're not human. It's nice to be perfect.

Somewhere, I read that the last perfect christian died on the cross. I wish all the other "perfect" christians would do the same. Perhaps then we could get past this idea that people who have medical problems, like alcoholism, are sinners.  

Anyway, in the end, I was asked for an e-mail address. I refused to give it -- get too much spam already.

Whatever,

Seth


I am sorry, but the shear stupidity of this is astounding. How can you equate detrimental drugs, like cocaine, with a drug like Prozac and Viagra? Do you know how stupid you sound?

Cocaine is a drug with one purpose, and one purpose only. To dull the senses and make dumb people dumber.

Prozac is a drug that helps people with OCD,depression and Panic disorder. No one takes Prozac to get high or forget there troubles. It effects REAL medical conditions.

Viagra is another drug that is not taken to forget how crappy ones life is. Are there idiots that take it just to stay hard longer? Sure, but it was not meant to be a "party drug" it was meant to give older men there sexual prow-less back.


I have few vices. I like Cigars and Pipe tobacco on occasion. I have been known to go 6 months or more without even touching a cigar. I drink rarely,and have never been drunk. I have been depressed since I was 12, and never taken meds for it because of my own personal beliefs. Oh how do I ever make it through the night without being a drug addicted alcoholic? Oh yeah, the old fashion way...NORMALY!


Notice the difference between  Lohan and I? I am responsible for my actions and don't blame it on "drugs" Responsibility to the responsible. She has no one to blame but her self.

Drug and Alcohol abuse are not medical conditions, there the products of weak willed individuals and losers. Lohan is a loser. Anyone that does hard drugs or drinks like a siv to "escape" are nothing but losers. She'll be washed up, has been before she even hits 30.

Cocaine ruined one of my aunts life, because she was a loser. She killed herself. I wish Lohan would follow suit.

Oh, by the way. Not everyone who comes out against idiots like Lohan are "Christan" who think there perfect. I can tell you there is a whole culture of intelligent people out there who are against  hard drugs and Alcohol abuse and the losers that use and abuse them and are not Christan.


Remember, just say NO to Scientology kids.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 12:24pm; Reply: 9
Now who's sounding stupid? Drugs are drugs, no matter what their purposes are.

People are weak, I'll give you that. But that doesn't mean they're losers. And to say that you wish Lohan would follow suit is wrong on so many levels. Sure, she's a little weird, but  I believe she could be the Meryl of our generation (the 20 somethings) if she just got off it and started working.

Yeah, that's a lot to say, but I think the girl's got talent. More talent than anyone else her age.

It'd be a really, really sad day if she committed suicide.

(PS: This message has been really hard to type without coming across as an asshole. What you've said is really offensive. I also don't think Lindsay's gotten herself mixed up in Scientology, yet. God help her if she does.)
Posted by: Death Monkey, September 1st, 2007, 1:32pm; Reply: 10

Quoted from theprodigalson


I am sorry, but the shear stupidity of this is astounding. How can you equate detrimental drugs, like cocaine, with a drug like Prozac and Viagra? Do you know how stupid you sound?

Cocaine is a drug with one purpose, and one purpose only. To dull the senses and make dumb people dumber.

Prozac is a drug that helps people with OCD,depression and Panic disorder. No one takes Prozac to get high or forget there troubles. It effects REAL medical conditions.

Viagra is another drug that is not taken to forget how crappy ones life is. Are there idiots that take it just to stay hard longer? Sure, but it was not meant to be a "party drug" it was meant to give older men there sexual prow-less back.


Yeah...except:

Cocaine is still used medicinally as a local anesthetic and vasoconstrictor in Europe. In the United States cocaine was once used to treat sinusitis, hay fever, depression, chronic fatigue and for appetite suppression. It has not been used as medicine in the U.S. since 1914.

n the form of leaf powder or tea, coca is taken for toothache, ulcers, rheumatism, asthma, and even malaria. Coca tea is often served to tourists arriving in hotels and inns in the high Andes as a remedy for the nausea, dizziness, and headache of soroche (altitude sickness). Unlike other stimulants, coca is also a local anesthetic. The juice of the leaf can be applied to soothe eye irritations or gargled for hoarseness and sore throat. Coca leaves are also used as a topical anesthetic for mouth sores. Coca contains minerals, vitamin C, and some B vitamins, and it is sometimes said to be an important source of these nutrients in the Andean diet.

Today cocaine is used in medicine mainly as a topical anesthetic in eye, ear, nose, and throat surgery and fiber tube optical examinations of the upper respiratory and digestive tracts. It has a combination of properties that cannot be duplicated by any of the synthetic local anesthetics: intense constriction of blood vessels (important whenever bleeding must be prevented), long duration of anesthesia (one hour), and low toxicity.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/medical/meduse.htm


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I have few vices. I like Cigars and Pipe tobacco on occasion. I have been known to go 6 months or more without even touching a cigar. I drink rarely,and have never been drunk. I have been depressed since I was 12, and never taken meds for it because of my own personal beliefs. Oh how do I ever make it through the night without being a drug addicted alcoholic? Oh yeah, the old fashion way...NORMALY!


So are you still depressed? How exactly did you cope with it? I'm not sure what "normally" entails? You stopped thinking about it and it went away?



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Notice the difference between  Lohan and I? I am responsible for my actions and don't blame it on "drugs" Responsibility to the responsible. She has no one to blame but her self.


I agree she's irresponsible. But what are you taking responsibility for?


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Drug and Alcohol abuse are not medical conditions, there the products of weak willed individuals and losers. Lohan is a loser. Anyone that does hard drugs or drinks like a siv to "escape" are nothing but losers. She'll be washed up, has been before she even hits 30.

Cocaine ruined one of my aunts life, because she was a loser. She killed herself. I wish Lohan would follow suit.

Oh, by the way. Not everyone who comes out against idiots like Lohan are "Christan" who think there perfect. I can tell you there is a whole culture of intelligent people out there who are against  hard drugs and Alcohol abuse and the losers that use and abuse them and are not Christan.


Remember, just say NO to Scientology kids.


There is a chemical reaction and physichal dependence in certain drugs; if you wish to dispute this you best come up with more than a personal anecdote to back that up. I'm sorry be so harsh about it, but having something tragic happen to a family member does not make you an expert on the bio-chemical effects of illicit drugs.

And it is possibly to do "hard" drugs responsibly. Most people just don't. Which is why there are laws against them.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 1:56pm; Reply: 11
Bravo, Mr Death Monkey!
Posted by: Blakkwolfe, September 1st, 2007, 3:06pm; Reply: 12
I like Lindsey Lohan, and I wish the best for her, even though her interest in Alien 5 might be directly tied to her continued substance abuse issues.

I wil also concur that people are over-medicated, and I have no love for the drug companys whatsoever, as they own the US Congress. (Thanks alot, Merck. They know what they did.)

I will, however, state my opinion that marijuana should be legally available to consenting adults, just as alcohol is.

That being said, regardless of any stupid data phishing website, I'd like to request the mighty Tenacious D as celebrity cellmates, as this tyranny has gone on long enough...All hail the Two Kings! Long Live the D!
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 3:49pm; Reply: 13

Quoted from Death Monkey


Yeah...except:

Cocaine is still used medicinally as a local anesthetic and vasoconstrictor in Europe. In the United States cocaine was once used to treat sinusitis, hay fever, depression, chronic fatigue and for appetite suppression. It has not been used as medicine in the U.S. since 1914.

n the form of leaf powder or tea, coca is taken for toothache, ulcers, rheumatism, asthma, and even malaria. Coca tea is often served to tourists arriving in hotels and inns in the high Andes as a remedy for the nausea, dizziness, and headache of soroche (altitude sickness). Unlike other stimulants, coca is also a local anesthetic. The juice of the leaf can be applied to soothe eye irritations or gargled for hoarseness and sore throat. Coca leaves are also used as a topical anesthetic for mouth sores. Coca contains minerals, vitamin C, and some B vitamins, and it is sometimes said to be an important source of these nutrients in the Andean diet.

Today cocaine is used in medicine mainly as a topical anesthetic in eye, ear, nose, and throat surgery and fiber tube optical examinations of the upper respiratory and digestive tracts. It has a combination of properties that cannot be duplicated by any of the synthetic local anesthetics: intense constriction of blood vessels (important whenever bleeding must be prevented), long duration of anesthesia (one hour), and low toxicity.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/medical/meduse.htm



Who cares what cocaine was used for in ye olden times. Tobacco leaves were used as medicine before as well, but we don't use that anymore do we? Now like Coke,it is used for non medicinal porposes. At least in the U.S.


So are you still depressed? How exactly did you cope with it? I'm not sure what "normally" entails? You stopped thinking about it and it went away?[/quote]

I have my family. I write. I Game. I live. I go on. That is all I need. I have not ever stopped being depressed and proably will always be depressed. This is the way I am and shall be


I agree she's irresponsible. But what are you taking responsibility for?[/quote]

For myself, my choices and my life. I can drink in moderation. I can smoke in moderation. I don't make the choice to get into a car drunk. I don't get high and drive. Drugs and Alcohol are not the bad guys here, Lohan is. Regardless of what toxic substance is in her system, she still made a choice. stupid people do stupid things because they are STUPID, not because of what they ingested.



There is a chemical reaction and physichal dependence in certain drugs; if you wish to dispute this you best come up with more than a personal anecdote to back that up. I'm sorry be so harsh about it, but having something tragic happen to a family member does not make you an expert on the bio-chemical effects of illicit drugs.[/quote]

For some, sure. There is no denying that a drug like Herion is one hell of a drug to kick. Time and again it has been proven. But only a loser would do a drug like that in the first place.

And it is possibly to do "hard" drugs responsibly. Most people just don't. Which is why there are laws against them.[/quote]

I am sure you could do non-medicinal drugs responsibly, but those people are still losers.



ABsteel

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Now who's sounding stupid? Drugs are drugs, no matter what their purposes are.


This is more offensive then my lohan/suicide thing.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 5:21pm; Reply: 14
How did I offend you?
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), September 1st, 2007, 5:34pm; Reply: 15

Quoted from ABennettWriter
How did I offend you?


Sometimes the truth can be offensive.  You have to learn how to be more diplomatic.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 5:41pm; Reply: 16
Drugs are drugs, just like alcohol is alcohol.
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 5:53pm; Reply: 17
That you think all drugs are the same. How is cocaine the same as a medicine like dilantern? (Which is a medicine that prevents seizures.)
Posted by: Death Monkey, September 1st, 2007, 5:59pm; Reply: 18

Quoted from theprodigalson



Who cares what cocaine was used for in ye olden times. Tobacco leaves were used as medicine before as well, but we don't use that anymore do we? Now like Coke,it is used for non medicinal porposes. At least in the U.S.


First of all your claim was that cocaine had ONE purpose and ONE purpose only. This is flat out false.

Secondly cocaine is STILL used for medicinal uses TODAY. Mind you, the U.S. isn't The World. SPOILER ALERT: There are other countries!


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I have my family. I write. I Game. I live. I go on. That is all I need. I have not ever stopped being depressed and proably will always be depressed. This is the way I am and shall be


Okay, so in effect you didn't really make it through your depression? That's fine. Some people choose to deal with their depression medicinally. Why is that being a loser, if it helps them?


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For myself, my choices and my life. I can drink in moderation. I can smoke in moderation. I don't make the choice to get into a car drunk. I don't get high and drive. Drugs and Alcohol are not the bad guys here, Lohan is. Regardless of what toxic substance is in her system, she still made a choice. stupid people do stupid things because they are STUPID, not because of what they ingested.


For some, sure. There is no denying that a drug like Herion is one hell of a drug to kick. Time and again it has been proven. But only a loser would do a drug like that in the first place.

I am sure you could do non-medicinal drugs responsibly, but those people are still losers.


Aha, so here's my question. Are you a loser for using the drug ethanol 'in moderation'? According to yourself you are. While alcohol is used in many contexts (medicinal and otherwise), if used in a recreational fashion, you are a loser, right?

Oh, man you really gotta set me straight here, 'cause my head is spinning...

Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 6:10pm; Reply: 19
If getting wasted on booze makes me a loser, then so be it.
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), September 1st, 2007, 6:11pm; Reply: 20
It's Dilantin.  

The are both made of the same chemical elements.
Carbon Hydrogen Nitrogen and Oxygen.

The formula for Dilantin is
C 15 H 12 N 2 O 2

The formula for Cocaine is
C 17 H 21 N    O 4

It's also interesting that Dilantin seems to have many more serious side effects than cocaine.  Some are even suggesting that Dilantin might be a human carcinogen.  
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 6:14pm; Reply: 21
That's nice detective work.

What are you, a part time chemist? :)

(That's not meant to be taken offensively.)
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 6:21pm; Reply: 22

Quoted from Death Monkey


First of all your claim was that cocaine had ONE purpose and ONE purpose only. This is flat out false.

Secondly cocaine is STILL used for medicinal uses TODAY. Mind you, the U.S. isn't The World. SPOILER ALERT: There are other countries!

I refer only to the USA when talking about coke. I could care less what other countries do. In America coke has but one use, and it has nothing to do with medicine.



Okay, so in effect you didn't really make it through your depression? That's fine. Some people choose to deal with their depression medicinally. Why is that being a loser, if it helps them?

I NEVER said anyone that takes depression meds is a loser. I said you can NOT equate a drug like cocaine with prozac. Prozac is a legal drug that helps people. Cocaine is not.

When I stated I do not take drugs for depression, I was refering to just me. He(op) wondered how anyone could make it through the night without there "drug of choice". I stated I rarely have a drink and don't take meds like prozac and I can make it through the night just fine. Not everyone is drugged up 24/7.



Aha, so here's my question. Are you a loser for using the drug ethanol 'in moderation'? According to yourself you are. While alcohol is used in many contexts (medicinal and otherwise), if used in a recreational fashion, you are a loser, right?

Oh, man you really gotta set me straight here, 'cause my head is spinning...

A loser is someone who takes said drug to escape. I don't drink enough to be effected by it. It does not help me escape. It does not alter me or my mind. one shot so often or a glass of wine is a far cry from coking it up and downing bottle after bottle of booze.



Maybe your head is spinning because you're a coke head? You seem to love cocaine so much and defend it users. Do YOU do coke?
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 6:24pm; Reply: 23

Quoted from mcornetto
It's Dilantin.  

The are both made of the same chemical elements.
Carbon Hydrogen Nitrogen and Oxygen.

The formula for Dilantin is
C 15 H 12 N 2 O 2

The formula for Cocaine is
C 17 H 21 N    O 4

It's also interesting that Dilantin seems to have many more serious side effects than cocaine.  Some are even suggesting that Dilantin might be a human carcinogen.  


What did you do, wiki it?  Be a good toby and go look up Klonopin next.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 6:31pm; Reply: 24
Clonazepam: C15 H10 Cl N3 O3

Looks like it has an extra chlorine molecule.
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), September 1st, 2007, 6:39pm; Reply: 25

Quoted from theprodigalson


What did you do, wiki it?  Be a good toby and go look up Klonopin next.


Now who's being insulting and offensive.  If you are going to treat people in such a condescending manner then you can do your own research.
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 6:46pm; Reply: 26
So we are proving what? that things can be made up of the same compounds, but still be completely different?


Look up the drug lisinopril, it is for high blood pressure.

Never mind, here it is:C21H31N3O5. Hmmm, made up of  pretty much the same compounds, yet effects the body differently.


Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 6:48pm; Reply: 27

Quoted from mcornetto


Now who's being insulting and offensive.  If you are going to treat people in such a condescending manner then you can do your own research.


Sorry. Thought you were on of them. But yes, I can just as easily wiki things myself.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 6:49pm; Reply: 28
Exactly. It also depends on what you already have in your system, or what other drugs you're going to mix with it.
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 6:54pm; Reply: 29

Quoted from ABennettWriter
Exactly. It also depends on what you already have in your system, or what other drugs you're going to mix with it.


Were the hell are we going with this?
Posted by: mcornetto (Guest), September 1st, 2007, 6:56pm; Reply: 30
All these drugs you are trying to say are different than medicines were actually considered medicine for some time.  Even heroin was available as medicine.  What is different about them?  People enjoyed using them.

So some puritan, who had the power, said "If people enjoy using them then they can't possibly be good for you."  And therefore they were made illegal.

That is the only difference, my friend.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 6:57pm; Reply: 31
I've confused myself.

I guess it's the alcohol, cause I'm such a loser, remember?
Posted by: theprodigalson, September 1st, 2007, 7:03pm; Reply: 32

Quoted from mcornetto
All these drugs you are trying to say are different than medicines were actually considered medicine for some time.  Even heroin was available as medicine.  What is different about them?  People enjoyed using them.

So some puritan, who had the power, said "If people enjoy using them then they can't possibly be good for you."  And therefore they were made illegal.

That is the only difference, my friend.


They are the same on one level, sure. But they are not one and the same.

A bob cat and a normal house cat are the same on one level, but I sure as hell am not going to be the one to pat the bobcat.




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I've confused myself.

I guess it's the alcohol, cause I'm such a loser, remember?


If you lived were I lived you would think the same way I do. I would not be joking to say that half the population in this town are either drunk or high 24/7. They are scum bags and people I have no respect for. Drinkin itself does not make one a loser, it is how much you consume. If you drink a 30 pack a night, then yes you might be a loser.
Posted by: ABennettWriter, September 1st, 2007, 7:07pm; Reply: 33
Well... I do live in Las Vegas.
Posted by: Seth, September 1st, 2007, 11:59pm; Reply: 34

Quoted from theprodigalson


I am sorry, but the shear stupidity of this is astounding. How can you equate detrimental drugs, like cocaine, with a drug like Prozac and Viagra? Do you know how stupid you sound?


In a country, such as ours, where some, many in fact, are plied with prescription drugs from cradle to grave -- everything from Ritalin to Prozac to Viagra. It is hypocritical to be sanctimonious, to act as if Lindsay is somehow less moral than the rest of us. This, ultimately, was my point.

How I can equate such drugs is easy. In the end, they're all taken in an effort to make one feel better. It's as simple as that.

It's not atypical for a parent to wake up, pop a Prozac, ply little Johnny with a Ritalin or two, then drop a Xanax. This same parent, no doubt, will tell little Johnny that Lindsay, being a drug addict, is a low-life, scum-bag.  


Quoted from theprodigalson

Cocaine is a drug with one purpose, and one purpose only. To dull the senses and make dumb people dumber.


Actually, as Death Monkey mentioned, Cocain, like Prozac or Viagra, has medicinal uses.


Quoted from theprodigalson

Prozac is a drug that helps people with OCD,depression and Panic disorder. No one takes Prozac to get high or forget there troubles.


Why should they when there are far better drugs available, like, for example, ecstasy. I'm, of course, kidding. I know that many have benefitted from anti-depressants. You, yourself, might, if you'd only give 'em a chance.


Quoted from theprodigalson

It effects REAL medical conditions.

Viagra is another drug that is not taken to forget how crappy ones life is.
Are there idiots that take it just to stay hard longer? Sure, but it was not meant to be a "party drug" it was meant to give older men there sexual prow-less back.


So if some old man can't get it up, he should be allowed Viagra -- but if a young man, who can get it up, wants to keep it up even longer, he's an idiot? What's the difference, both, ultimately, are taking the drug for enjoyment. Who are you to say how, or whom, should take this drug? What business is it of yours?  


Quoted from theprodigalson

I have few vices. I like Cigars and Pipe tobacco on occasion. I have been known to go 6 months or more without even touching a cigar. I drink rarely,and have never been drunk.


That's fine. Absolutely irrelevant, but fine.


Quoted from theprodigalson

I have been depressed since I was 12, and never taken meds for it because of my own personal beliefs. Oh how do I ever make it through the night without being a drug addicted alcoholic?


You're asking the wrong person ... hold on, gotta get another beer.


Quoted from theprodigalson

Oh yeah, the old fashion way...NORMALY!


There's that sanctimonious, I'm better than her, attitude. Sure, you're not on multible mind-altering, santioned-by-the-state, drugs -- even so, her behaviour, allows you to think of yourself as "better." Good for you!


Quoted from theprodigalson

Notice the difference between  Lohan and I? I am responsible for my actions and don't blame it on "drugs" Responsibility to the responsible. She has no one to blame but her self.


What a silly, reductionist, argument. There are many studies -- peer reviewed -- that evidence a genetic component with respect to addiction. That said, how and why she is who she is, can't be summed up with a simple "she has no one to blame but herself."  


Quoted from theprodigalson

Drug and Alcohol abuse are not medical conditions,


If you are as concerned about this issue as your comments suggest, then I encourage you to write the American Medical Association, They, idiots that they are, believe drug and alcohol addiction to be a medical condition. Quick, write that letter, educate them.


Quoted from theprodigalson

there the products of weak willed individuals and losers. Lohan is a loser. Anyone that does hard drugs or drinks like a siv to "escape" are nothing but losers. She'll be washed up, has been before she even hits 30.


You should be a drug counselor!


Quoted from theprodigalson

Cocaine ruined one of my aunts life, because she was a loser. She killed herself. I wish Lohan would follow suit.


Your aunt had a medical condition. That said, she wasn't a loser. You though, for believeing her a loser, are a ... Never mind.


Quoted from theprodigalson

Oh, by the way. Not everyone who comes out against idiots like Lohan are "Christan" who think there perfect. I can tell you there is a whole culture of intelligent people out there who are against  hard drugs and Alcohol abuse and the losers that use and abuse them and are not Christan.


I should not have directed my comments at Christians. Fact is, there are many decent Christians, and many addicts have, by becoming Christians, given up the drugs. What ever works.

Seth
Posted by: Seth, September 2nd, 2007, 12:10am; Reply: 35

Quoted from ABennettWriter
If getting wasted on booze makes me a loser, then so be it.


I'll raise my glass to that :)

Seth
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