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SimplyScripts Screenwriting Discussion Board  /  April, 2009 One Week Challenge  /  OWC - Out
Posted by: Don, April 11th, 2009, 2:33pm
Out by Jingguo Tan - Short, Drama - At Tom and Louis's congratulatory picnic, a dark family secret is finally revealed. - pdf, format 8)
Posted by: Zombie Sean, April 11th, 2009, 3:30pm; Reply: 1
That was a funnier twist than a dramatic one. Though, the events that follow afterwards made it go back to it's seriousness. The beginning felt slow and it dragged along until Tom and Bill started talking (even the beginning of their conversation was casual, but slow).

I was really glad Tom punched Bill. I really, really hate those kinds of fathers who treat their son's like crap.

But what was Tom going to do with Louis once he ran after her? He already broke her heart and ruined everyone's day. What more could he do to save it all? It would have been better if he had just walked indoors, but since you left it to where he runs off for Louis, you've left the reader hanging, and I, for one, want to know what him and Louis are going to do once he catches up to her.

Sean
Posted by: Astrid (Guest), April 11th, 2009, 3:34pm; Reply: 2
The title definately gives this one away. It's an okay story. But teh whole "coming out" thing, if its going to be done, has to be done in a fresh way. There has to be something new to it, and here nothing new is offered.  
Posted by: Brian M, April 11th, 2009, 3:54pm; Reply: 3
I seen this coming the minute he started talking to Bill, with the title of the script being "Out", it wasn't hard to put two and two together.

I also think Tom shouldn't run after Louis in the end, he should just watch her go or something. There is nothing he could say to defend himself after coming out like that infront of everyone.

I never had any problems with the writing or the dialogue, so well done on that.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), April 11th, 2009, 7:08pm; Reply: 4
This was OK...that's about it.  Pretty slow, and dull, with little action other than the punch.

Louis sounds like a guy's name.  I was wondering if they were both gay, until you said that Louis was indeed female.

Writing was OK, but lots of passive verbiage everywhere.  Dialogue was the storng suit here, I think.
Posted by: bobtheballa (Guest), April 11th, 2009, 7:24pm; Reply: 5
The title kind of gave this away, and the fact that Louis is such an androgenous name didn't help either.

What I don't understand is why he was about to marry this girl if he was gay and at the end why he ran after her.

The formatting looked fine and I really liked the image of the banner ripping but overall this one didn't work for me.
Posted by: Cam17, April 11th, 2009, 9:58pm; Reply: 6
As has already been said, the title gave your secret away. And Louis as the girl's name was a bad choice.  Just confused the script further.  Some of the dialogue wasn't bad, though.  Just a bit slow with not much of an ending.
Posted by: Andrew, April 11th, 2009, 10:29pm; Reply: 7
There are quite a few positives here. The dialogue was generally incisive in getting your point across. Tom has obviously dealt with his repressed feelings for many years. His relationship with Bill felt a little too 'American Beauty' for me, though. Was this intentional? By that token - is Bill gay?

The banner being ripped and leaving 'Congratulations Tom' was a nice touch, and I can picture this image on screen.

I will echo the others' views, however, as I agree the title and name 'Louis' were a little misplaced.

One of the better OWC entries that I have read, and I think with a rewrite, this one could be good.

Andrew
Posted by: Sham, April 12th, 2009, 4:12am; Reply: 8

Quoted from Andrew
There are quite a few positives here. The dialogue was generally incisive in getting your point across. Tom has obviously dealt with his repressed feelings for many years. His relationship with Bill felt a little too 'American Beauty' for me, though. Was this intentional? By that token - is Bill gay?

The banner being ripped and leaving 'Congratulations Tom' was a nice touch, and I can picture this image on screen.

I will echo the others' views, however, as I agree the title and name 'Louis' were a little misplaced.

One of the better OWC entries that I have read, and I think with a rewrite, this one could be good.

Andrew

Definitely agree.

You have got to change Louis to either Lois or Louise or SOMETHING. I really thought it was two guys getting married at first. Then, when it's revealed that Tom is actually gay, I immediately thought, "No friggon wonder he's with a woman named Louis. It was probably a blind date and he got screwed over."

Like Andrew, I also really enjoyed the banner being torn in half.

I didn't understand why Tom waited all this time to announce his sexuality, though. It seemed very strange and out of the blue. Maybe you could have his character try a couple of times to pull Louis away from everyone to "have a talk." That way we as an audience get that there is something going on, so it won't seem so random when Tom flips his lid and opens up to everyone.

Overall, a good effort. The picnic and the secret worked well for the competition. Good work.
Posted by: BryMo, April 12th, 2009, 12:03pm; Reply: 9
No, no, no. I did not expect things to run this way.

A gay son comes out in a major way, but the way you distribute comedy and drama bothered me. Maybe it wasn’t intentional, but that’s the way it came off. By the title the secret was a given, but I thought the special thing about this script would be the way the topic would be handled. This was written rather disappointingly.

Good effort however.

AND PS. at the beginning i DID believe Tom was marrying a man. Louis needs to be changed, to avoid further confusion.
Posted by: Murphy (Guest), April 12th, 2009, 7:00pm; Reply: 10
Not bad, not brilliant. I never had an issue with the name really, I assumed she was a girl and took it from there. I will echo comments on the title of the script though, if you wanted to pick a title that would blow the surprise then you did well. Any other title would have been better.

Like Astrid said there was nothing new here, it is a story that has been told many times before and once that I always have a hard time believing. But on the plus side it was written well and was a drama about a secret revealed at a family picnic. As far as the OWC goes you nailed it pretty well. Certainly nowhere near the worst script I have read today but doubt it will end up being considered one of the best OWC entries.

Good effort though.
Posted by: jayrex, April 13th, 2009, 11:52am; Reply: 11
I thought the first four pages was slow and boring.  But it did get interesting thereafter.  I, like the others have said, thought Louis was a guy.  Aside from that it was not bad.
Posted by: Blakkwolfe, April 15th, 2009, 8:23pm; Reply: 12
Well, that was interesting. I thought it was going to be a reverse outing, with Tom or Louis admitting they were straight.I had no idea that Louis was even a girl until I spotted a she and her. If you are going to use a guy's name for a girl (which can be cool, like Blake) or unisex name (like Stacy or Kelly), specify that right away so it's clear for the reader.

Some of the descriptions could be tightened up a bit."apron that has military camouflage on it" could just be "a camouflage apron".

Also suggest that you use fewer -ing words (passive), Running, Chatting, could be he runs, she chats (active)

For a spec script you don't have to capitalize sound effects. Most of these entrys have been fine formatting wise...Pick a couple that were favorably reviewed and format likewise, as a guide. Minor nit-pick, though.

It was a solid outing, so to speak, with some good dialogue and conflict.
Posted by: grademan, April 17th, 2009, 10:39am; Reply: 13
This was an expected topic for a big secret to be revealed. That and "Juno who you're daddy is?" In a week, not bad. A few distractions pointed out above.
Posted by: michel, April 17th, 2009, 5:09pm; Reply: 14
Sorry to say it, but I didn't like it that one. The secret revealed is not very original and, like others said, choosing Louis for the girl didn't help. Sure Bill is a b@st@rd, but he looks the only good character to me. Why did Tom proposed Louis if he was gay? Louis would find out very soon and his marriage would be ruined anyway.

Michel 8)
Posted by: Breanne Mattson, April 18th, 2009, 12:17pm; Reply: 15
I didn’t read any of the other reviews.

I didn’t know Louis was female until the line, “I still can’t believe she said yes,” and then he kissed her. Until then I thought it was a gay wedding. You might want to clarify that.

Then I find out (drum roll) he is gay. That’s his secret. Then I was confused as to whether Louis was a woman or whether or not she had her own secret, namely that she was really a guy.

Then it just ended.

This one is a bit ho-hum for me. The writing was good enough to draw me in enough to keep reading. That’s good. But not good enough to really impress me in any way. Ultimately it just seemed uninspired. There were some flashes of inspiration, such as the banner ripping, but other than that it was fairly pedestrian.

The writing is good enough that I don’t doubt the writer’s ability to write something compelling and inspired. This just wasn’t it.


Breanne

Posted by: cloroxmartini, April 18th, 2009, 12:30pm; Reply: 16
Emotionally it didn't work because in my (little world) I imagined Tom would have come out sooner in this day and age. Louis is a guy's name and I didn't know Louis was truly a she till near the bottom of the first page. Even after he outed I went back to read up on Louis' gender. I got the feeling Bill knew about Tom, and being the camo-dressing-drill-sergeant-of-a-guy that Bill is, might not have let Tom go on with Louis without letting Louis know.
Posted by: George Willson, April 24th, 2009, 1:23pm; Reply: 17
First off, I didn't know Louis was a woman until she is referenced with a female pronoun. Basically when Tom turned to Louis and gave HER a kiss. That's when I knew. If you're using a male name for a female, you NEED to define the sex.

Anyway, as for the story, I didn't much like it. Then again, I always have trouble buying in to these sorts of stories where someone has the "big secret" and finally reveal it and everything changes. I dunno. Maybe it's realistic. Maybe stuff actually happens that way. I just can't buy into any level of their believability.

It always feels like the writer has an "agenda" they're trying to shove in everyone's face... It was also well-tread ground right down to the over-bearing and (of course) military father who was never there and demanded his son call him "sir". Seriously? I was in the military and I didn't talk to a single person (not one) who in a social setting would demand someone call them sir.

Writing-wise, it was fine. No problems following it or anything. It's just not my thing.
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