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Posted by: Don, April 12th, 2009, 8:27am
Adopted by Three Blind Mice - Short, Drama - Billy thinks he's adopted as he looks nothing like his parents. - pdf, format 8)
Posted by: Andrew, April 12th, 2009, 9:07am; Reply: 1
SPOILERS!

The opening to this one was fantastic. Totally took me by surprise - very amusing.

The rest is just a bit muddled, I think. It may well be that I am missing something, but the ending just fell flat. Bob suspected for 16 years that Billy was not his child? Upon learning the truth, he punches Henry and strolls back to be seemingly contented:


Quoted Text
BOB
Yeah, but they damn sure make us
even.


The way in which Billy raised the issue at the picnic felt a little unnatural, as did his decision to investigate.

For large parts, the dialogue was good and helped to advance the story, but I just felt the structure let you down.

I would like to see a rewrite, 'cos as I say, the opening was very amusing.

Andrew
Posted by: Brian M, April 12th, 2009, 1:05pm; Reply: 2
I have to agree with Andrew. The opening drew me in but the rest let me down. I didn't buy that Bob could remember about the window after sixteen years, it's not like that was the only time he done it with her, hell, he said he's screwed her enough over the years. Why remember that time so vividly?

I think it would be better if you showed Bob being suspicious towards Henry, prove that he's suspected him all those years, instead of just having him come out that his son looks like Henry. It felt a bit random.

The ending didn't satisfy me. He's not even. No where near. Henry just admiting everything like it wasn't a big thing didn't feel right. Maybe Bob could hit Henry before he even gets a chance to answer his question or something.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), April 12th, 2009, 5:24pm; Reply: 3
I think the idea here was good...in the opening scene, but the writing is pretty poor, and the dialogue is downright terrible.  Sorry, but I have to say that.

The opening 2 lines should be 1 sentence...this is a giveaway that the writing isn't going to be solid going forward.

The dialogue is so bad that it almost comes off as a comedy.  The ending, again, seems like it's meant to be funny, but based on the overall theme here, I don't know why it should be.

Not good...sorry.
Posted by: Toby_E, April 12th, 2009, 5:57pm; Reply: 4
First OWC entry I've read, and sorry to say this, but I didn't really like it. There were problems with writing. Firstly, you introduce the Man (in capital letters, which means that he appears on screen), but yet his first piece of dialogue is O.S.? You then have the Man in capitals again next time we see him. Hmm...

This line doesn't make sense either; "HENRY, 25, tall, well built, has dressed like a cat burglar." What does "has dressed" mean in this context? Also, I know that Henry is the Man, but you never explicitly tell us that he is. For all I know, the Man and Henry could be together in the same scene. You never tell us otherwise.

Man, the dialogue between Joy and Billy is pretty awful. It feels totally forced and un-natural.

Damn, the picnic dialogue is even worse...

A pet peeve of mine - I hate it when parents call their children "son" in movies. For me, it feels toally un-natural. I don't know if it's a UK thing, but no parent I know calls their children "son"... They use their first names.

How the hell would Bob remember that 16 years ago his wife opened a window? C'mon dude...

Lazy use of a montage, man.

I actually laughed when Bob knocked out Henry. I have a feeling I shouldn't of though.

Wow, that ending sucked. I felt cheated. What was the message of this short? I couldn't even try to comprehend one.

Sorry, but I really didn't enjoy this short. No offence to whoever wrote it. I think the premise was one of the biggest problems... Even if everything else was perfect (dialogue, formatting, etc.) I still wouldn't have enjoyed this one too much.

Toby.
Posted by: Murphy (Guest), April 12th, 2009, 6:08pm; Reply: 5
I think that this probably a miss, which is a shame because it is nicely written and you had a great set-up. I just found it all a little too unbelievable, not the story of course, but the reactions from the characters. Billy just thinking this out of the blue and the way he questioned it, Bob's reaction was certainly strange. He really thinks that hitting Henry a couple of times is enough to make it even? What about Sarah? If that was my wife I am pretty sure she would have been out the door pretty quickly, probably the car door, at speed! haha, okay, not really.

I think the set-up was well done, showing the conception and then moving forward 16 years was great and it worked well. The writing was decent enough just the story seemed a little to hard to swallow.

Good effort though.
Posted by: Sham, April 12th, 2009, 11:48pm; Reply: 6
Such a great start, then it hits rock bottom as soon as the story jumps forward sixteen years. I was more intrigued by the wife's affair than Billy's search for his biological parents.

Both montages were really, really bad. The whole time I was reading it, I kept hearing the Benny Hill theme in my head.

The only character I remotely appreciated was Henry. I loved this little bit:

     ALISON
It’s nothing. Probably the
neighbors or something.

     HENRY
I’m the neighbor! That’s Bob!


Otherwise, the story took a nosedive as soon as it got going. Toby_E has offered some great criticism, more than I ever could, so paying attention to his advice will definitely help you if you ever decide to rewrite this.
Posted by: cloroxmartini, April 12th, 2009, 11:55pm; Reply: 7
Good start. Cats out the bag as soon as Billy and Joy start talking. Tension is there during the picnic. Mom not wanting all this, she knows where it's going. Then the punch out...didn't work for me. If the kid looked that much different that everyone else notices, then this would have started long before 16 years old.
Posted by: JonnyBoy, April 13th, 2009, 7:12am; Reply: 8
Meeting the competition criteria: this is the good news. Family, picnic, secret, drama. Nowt wrong there - 10/10
Characters: pretty dull, I'm afraid. Not a great deal of depth to any of them. Henry had the most about them, but the rest were just names acting out parts - the confused child, the girlfriend, the angry husband. They needed more character - 4/10
Dialogue: I really don't want to come across as mean (ESPECIALLY not in the current climate), but this was, at times, painfully bad. Don't get me wrong, there were good moments - Henry's line "I'm the neighbor! That's Bob!" made me laugh out loud - but the scene between Joy and Billy in the computer room was horrible. It wasn't so mucn on the nose as broken nose. The picnic scene wasn't much better, I'm afraid - 3/10
Story: the start was great, but from then on things declined. I don't think Bob would settle for just hitting Henry twice, and then declare the matter closed. He's found out that his wife cheated on him, and his son isn't his son! And he just goes back to watching TV?! Sorry, don't buy it. Don't buy a lot of things about this, actually - 3/10
Writing/format: format was generally okay, but parts of the actual writing were just odd. The idea of Bob standing up from the picnic rug and immediately beginning to pace back and forth made me laugh at its ridiculousness - 4/10

TOTAL: 24/50
Posted by: Astrid (Guest), April 14th, 2009, 1:18am; Reply: 9
This is, I think, actually, a good story. It's just written in a way that gets in the way. For me, the dialogue was the biggest problem. I don't know any 15 year olds who use the words whilst or dispute. Maybe you do. Idk. If I said anything more I'd just be repeating what's already been said.
Posted by: steven8, April 14th, 2009, 1:30am; Reply: 10
Okay, I have to say the dialogue was way stiff and formal.  Made it rough to read.  I hated Henry and Allison.  Very simple.  He should have punched Allison, too.


Quoted Text
Toby_E asked:
How the hell would Bob remember that 16 years ago his wife opened a window? C'mon dude...


Never underestimate a person's ability to have something fester.  It is not an unreasonable thing.

With better dialogue, this could be a fairly comfortable script.
Posted by: JamminGirl, April 14th, 2009, 2:27am; Reply: 11
The dialogue was trite. People in real life don't speak this way:

HENRY
All the more reason to get in, do
my thing, and get out before Bob
realizes his friendly neighbor’s a
little too friendly.

I'm thinking that men keep perpetuating this notion that women cheat in the same way they do. Just have sex with the neighbor for the heck of it. Not beleiveable.

So at the end Bob punches the guy who impregnated his wife and we're even stephens? You should've just left the vengeance out of it. It's ok though. Keep writing and entering these challenges. :)
Posted by: The boy who could fly, April 14th, 2009, 12:04pm; Reply: 12
The story here wasn't bad, the first half was interesting, but some of the dialogue just felt really really off, and how Bob was able to remember a night 16 years ago didn't feel right, nothing really special happened that night other than hearing footsteps....this guy must have the memory of an elephant.  This did fit the theme and genre and it did have an interesting story so good job there, it was really just the dialogue that hurt this one the most.
Posted by: seamus19382, April 14th, 2009, 12:21pm; Reply: 13
I don't think I've ever used the word whilst in a sentence.  You maged it three times in twelve pages.  I think everything else that needs to be said has been said.
Posted by: Trojan, April 14th, 2009, 12:45pm; Reply: 14

Quoted from JamminGirl
I'm thinking that men keep perpetuating this notion that women cheat in the same way they do. Just have sex with the neighbor for the heck of it. Not beleiveable.


Sorry but can't agree with you there. The fact is that women are capable of cheating just as much as men do, there's no gender-specific gene that makes someone more predisposed to cheating. Just look at how many paternity cases you see these days if you want evidence of that. In this specific story the couple were having trouble conceiving so that may be one reason she cheated on her husband.


Quoted from JamminGirl
So at the end Bob punches the guy who impregnated his wife and we're even stephens?


Ok now this I do agree with. I don't know any man who would consider punching the guy who had sex with his wife and fathered his child as 'getting even'. Not believable at all.

Cheers,
Tim.
Posted by: michel, April 14th, 2009, 4:17pm; Reply: 15
Okay. I won't repeat what others said (Yes, I read the reviews) but i'm gonna try to concentrate on what I would call plot hole.

In page 2., you write "Henry stops suddenly." Stop what? I assume he's making love to Alison. If he stops, he couldn't have come yet. Am I wrong? So, how comes he could be Billy's father.

Then, you never proved Henry was Billy's father. Either Billy didn't prove it. Alison never confessed. Bob only supposes. Furthermore, where is the revealed secret?  No one (except Alison) knows the truth.

IMHO

Michel 8)
Posted by: rc1107, April 14th, 2009, 5:45pm; Reply: 16
Judging by the action descriptions and the dialoge, I'm guessing the writer of this one is very considerably young.  There is definately a lot of much needed work on proper grammar and punctuation here.  And trust me...  that will only come from practice and a lot... a heck of a lot of reading.  Everything you can get your hands on.  Books, screenplays, newspapers, whether it's boring, whether it's interesting...  learn the language.

For instance, when you say the door creaks open unheard.  If it's unheard, then it can't really creak, can it?  The door just opens slowly.

And I don't know about how much I want to get into what Michel said, considering I don't know the age of the writer, and I don't know the proper way to say it without being offensive, but even though Henry had stopped, yes, Allison could still have gotten pregnant from him that night.  It is possible for sperm to survive for 72 hours in the man's pre-come.  (That's my politically correct way of spelling 'pre-come', by the way, instead of ending it 'um'.)

But there's a whole other huge plothole here.  Allison and Henry have done it more than once.  Remember, he said he's getting tired of this 'role-playing' stuff.  That said, it makes it pointless for Bob 16 years in the future to remember only one random night that he seemingly never gave a second thought to since.

I see the aim the writer was taking here, but yes, the whole story kind of crumbles along the way.  And the ending was a bit ridiculous, with the punch and everybody's peachy after that.

Definately work on plot and language.

- Mark
Posted by: Zombie Sean, April 14th, 2009, 5:51pm; Reply: 17

Quoted from michel
In page 2., you write "Henry stops suddenly." Stop what? I assume he's making love to Alison. If he stops, he couldn't have come yet. Am I wrong? So, how comes he could be Billy's father.


They probably had sex more than once, I'm guessing.



I'm afraid I didn't like this one too much. Yes, yes, the beginning was exciting and all, but with an ending with that much of a letdown? And the middle where things spring up all of a sudden? The dialogue was a big ridiculous when it comes to realism (and, I can't remember who said it, but I can't agree more with the use of "son" in this script. They said it so much, I asked myself if it was meant as a joke?), and I'm sure I'm not the last to mention it, but the fact that Bob remembered the window being open 16 years ago was insane. Ha ha. This was a comedy for me. I'm actually sure you meant to swing that way. I really hope you meant to.

It's a good plot, but you just need to execute it better.

Sean
Posted by: michel, April 14th, 2009, 5:58pm; Reply: 18

Quoted from Zombie Sean


They probably had sex more than once, I'm guessing.


Why don't the writer tell us? Remember they just have 3 or 4 hours ahead. I can't figure other people than French could compete all four hours long...
Posted by: michel, April 14th, 2009, 6:01pm; Reply: 19
Err... It's a joke LOL
Posted by: rc1107, April 14th, 2009, 7:06pm; Reply: 20

Quoted from Zombie Sean
They probably had sex more than once, I'm guessing.



Quoted from Michel
Why don't the writer tell us?


Actually, the writer did:


Quoted from Adopted
The MAN whips Alison around, and takes his hand away from
her mouth.  He smiles.

MAN
I’m fed up with role-play...


That tells us that they've done this kind of thing before.

But it's still a moot point, though.  She still could've gotten pregnant from him that night.  Sperm can survive for 72 hours in a man's pre-cum.  (The hell with being politically correct anymore.)  :-)  So as long as he was inside her...  he didn't have to finish to put a little 'un inside her.


And by the way, just out of curiosity, Michel...  I noticed you have 'Pray for her' underneath your wife's picture.  Is she okay?
Posted by: theMADhatter, April 15th, 2009, 6:22pm; Reply: 21
I had trouble getting through this, I felt the dialogue was forced and unnatural. "I'm just opening up the window as I'm hot". No one speaks like that. Ever. Also, the beginning scene totally debunked the title. I could see where things were going. Once I knew this, reading the script just unraveled my assumptions. No big things came from it, nothing profound. Ended abruptly and no way are they even. If two punches equals 16 years of living a lie and being betrayed... didn't buy it. Seemed like you were just tying to make the 12 page deadline.

-kjb.
Posted by: michel, April 16th, 2009, 5:34pm; Reply: 22

Quoted from rc1107


She still could've gotten pregnant from him that night.  Sperm can survive for 72 hours in a man's pre-cum.  (The hell with being politically correct anymore.)  :-)  So as long as he was inside her...  he didn't have to finish to put a little 'un inside her.


But Alison says too the try and try top get a babY? The baby could be his husband.

I think it'd have been more suspense fuil to wait for the DNA results to be sure. There were one chance out of two it could be Henry. Anf if he did,  in this end when Bob punches him it couid stick theDNA results into his mouth and then beat him up. Only one kissers is ridiculus.
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