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Posted by: Don, October 15th, 2011, 9:25am
Reaparations by Will Ball (albinopenguin) - Short, Gothic Horror -  Six months after the Civil War's conclusion, Colonel Henry Gibbs gets a visitor he never expected. 10 pages, 5 characters, Hard R Rating - pdf, format 8)
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, October 15th, 2011, 2:13pm; Reply: 1
Hello Harvey,

Whilst I am new around here I think there is a bit for you to learn on formatting BUT I thought the twist was strong and the story has potential.

My comments;

fade in on left
Establishing shot - some will frown on this as you don't need to use establishing, I think
P2 - stake? Not steak
Your translations from one scene to another may need work
Eli - you don't introduce him before he's involved. First time characters should be in CAPITALS
P5 growing balls - well it's different, some may not like that style of expression
Fade out is the end transition

Good twist.

All the best RD
Posted by: Pete B. Lane, October 15th, 2011, 2:24pm; Reply: 2
This was fun, but flawed.

I think the writer was going for a reparation/apparition thing with the title, but it's a little too clever.

I like the premise and the ending but I don't think the tone was ever nailed down here. The opening scene reads a bit like an old, married couple in a sitcom.

And Amos' confrontation with the couple is too straight ahead. The author could have really milked that character for more scares and a creepier tone.

I liked parts of this, but the execution just doesn't work 100%. I do like the ideas presented, so I consider this a solid effort.

My grade: B-

Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, October 15th, 2011, 10:11pm; Reply: 3
Stake=steak. (p2)

Oh, man. I'm really on the fence with this one. The ghost in question appears to be out for revenge and, with a gun , kills Melinda. The threat of Henry Gibb's secret being exposed is questionable. Can't the ghost simply haunt until Henry confesses? Or show Gibbs son and/or Melinda the truth - would they really care?

While it is an interesting take and twist of sorts, I have to stick to the premise itself. If these Southerners, just lost the war...would they be so willing to take the word of a black man?  Henry  does appear to call the bluff, but I never was convinced.

Dropping the steak is like dropping the teacup. I can almost imagine the slo-mo shot for added OTN emphasis. Imagine this: Henry might think, up until Amos shows his neck, that he is a relative of Amos. But instead of pulling out a gun, Amos pulls out THE EAR.

This would freak Henry and the family out.
Then have Amos put the ear of Henry to the Eli's ear.
Eli "hears" the event that claimed Amos' life.


Nice effort for the OWC though.
Missed the mark by a hair.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), October 16th, 2011, 8:13am; Reply: 4
Top of page 2 and I'm gone again.  damn..."stake"?  C'mon, man.

The tone is off right out of the gate.  Is this supposed to be comedic?  Sorry, but lots and lots of isssues.

Congrats on completing an entry for the October OWC.
Posted by: wonkavite (Guest), October 16th, 2011, 9:51am; Reply: 5
The writing on this one was clean, you have a good grasp of the craft.

One formatting issue though: you didn't properly label the flashback, which made it confusing at first.  The slugline should be FLASHBACK TO: before the scene.
Also: unless it's a pun, reparations is spelled wrong (not good, when it's the title of the story)...  :)

Re: the story.  It maybe has a germ of promise in it, if completely rewritten and reworked.  I'm not being facetious here....I really honestly think that a story about a old closeted southern man that has a black lover could actually work.  Imagine the guilt, the shame, the secrets that he'd have to cover up.  It's got potential (though, if he truly loved him - he'd do something like poison him instead - and hold him while he died.)

The rest of the story?  Gratutious bloodshed and gore that just doesn't work, and doesn't do just to what *could* be a riveting story.  Get rid of the gore, move the flashback to mid-story, and have it just be a cold dark night where Henry's visited by a ghost from his past that he'd rather not remember.  And get rid of the "you promised to kill yourself" bit.  That's much too melodramatic, and takes away from the pathos that this story COULD have had.

But congrats on the OWC.  Hope this helps...!
Posted by: dogglebe (Guest), October 16th, 2011, 9:59am; Reply: 6
I have to admit that I did not see this coming...  Apparently, 'jungle fever' seems to be the genre for the scripts.

The biggest problem I had with this script is that there was no proper mood for it.  Gothic horror needs a little suspense.  The use of physical violence is not right for the genre.  The characters (and the readers) need to feel dread; this was lacking in this script.  Perhaps if Amos haunted the Colonel some more...

The writing was pretty clean, though there were some problems.  You tell us that Gibbs is a colonel when you introduce him.  You need to describe him as such.  Is he wearing his uniform at the table?  Show us things.  Don't tell us.

Is the title's misspelling intentional?  I saw the pun there, but not sure if it applies in this script.


Phil
Posted by: Breanne Mattson, October 16th, 2011, 11:52am; Reply: 7
Minus some grammar issues, this isn’t too bad technically. It has an interesting twist that certainly wasn’t expected.

Some things that stood out:

P1 - knife besides should be knife beside. Also, if Henry doesn’t like to use knives, why even have one at the table?

P2 - stake should be steak.

P3 - Amos calls Henry Harry.

P3 - Henry’s response as to Amos’s identity doesn’t ring genuine. It sounds too casual under the circumstances.

After Amos is introduced, some of Henry’s dialogue becomes filler.

P4 - no need to put “to Henry” in parentheses if Melinda calls him by name in the dialogue.

P5 - one wrist or both? Says both but reads like one.

P9 - Amos wearing the locket seemed too risky for Henry to allow. Same with leaving it with his body.

Looking back, I think Amos killing Melinda is a bad move. It destroys all sympathy for Amos.

Good luck with rewrites.


Breanne
Posted by: Electric Dreamer, October 17th, 2011, 12:37pm; Reply: 8
I’m sure others have pointed out the culinary typo.
Henry and Melinda sound like the Civil War Kramdens.
Henry offs himself right in front of his kid? Ouch.
Vague dialogue feels cheesy, like you’re holding back the plot.
Whoa, didn’t see that one coming, you got me there.
Amos didn’t seem to be much of a ghost, rather corporeal.
The kid was superfluous, why expose a child to horror?
Pretty well written and a nice gothic twist.
Thanks for playing OWC.

Regards,
E.D.
Posted by: Ryan1, October 17th, 2011, 4:39pm; Reply: 9
Another gun-totin' ghost.  Second one I've come across in this owc.  

I liked the setting, but some of your descriptive passages read clunky:

"Everything around them is indicative of the confederate south and is
covered in dust."

Amos calls Henry by the wrong name.

AMOS
You made a promise to me Harry.

As for the story, I guessed your twist right away.  You pretty much gave it away when Amos talks with a "slight lisp."  And then when Amos says "You're husband is a--", that clinched it for me.  

So, no real surprises with this one.  The idea for the story isn't bad at all:  forbidden love amid the war, and an old soldier hiding a dark secret.  But, I think the subject matter could have been handled with a good deal more finesse.  The ghost wasn't much of a ghost, just some dude who showed up on a doorstep with a gun.  And, considering he shot the wife in the face, I'd say he's pretty damn bad, so this didn't fit into the rules of the challenge, IMO.

Interesting idea, but needs an overhaul.
Posted by: Scoob, October 18th, 2011, 4:31pm; Reply: 10
Not bad, not bad at all.
Writing is good for the most part and it read quick but I think you could cut down/ clean up some of the descriptions.
There was a certain moment that genuinely took me by surprise.
I might sound a bit hypocritical when I say the gore could be cut down considering what I've written in the past but I think you could have more effect with a little less.
Solid in my opinion.
Good stuff!
Posted by: darrentomalin, October 19th, 2011, 5:28pm; Reply: 11
Started out really promising - hate ghosts with guns and seen several this OWC!
SOmeone mentioned that Amos killing the wife takes all sympathy away from the character and I have to agree.
Some of the descriptions were great, dialogue was ok until the point where Amos and Henry had their "encounter" it felt really forced.
A brave and ambitious script trying to tackle homosexuality, infidelity, war and racism in difficult times in a few pages and it just didnt quite hit the mark for me.
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., October 20th, 2011, 7:06pm; Reply: 12

I think this was essentially a good story and quite well done. The fact that you painted Henry as a flawed character from the beginning was nailed and I appreciated the detail of him trying to work on that steak without a knife.Just one of those things that stuck with him. And, the fact that he had a wife, but it was more of a cover than anything, or he swung both ways, who knows.

Is this gothic? No I wouldn't say so. Could it be gothic? Yes, you could manipulate it in that direction.

Is it memorable? Yes, I do think it is.

One thing I'm thinking of though now is:

There was absolutely NO REACTION FROM ELI, upon discovering his head blown out mother. Whoops!

Very good job on this I would say.

Sandra
Posted by: Baltis. (Guest), October 20th, 2011, 11:19pm; Reply: 13
Very good attempt here -- I just didn't get into the whole plantation stuff.  It's not that I don't think you can write, clearly you can.  It's just I was working towards wanting it to end rather than wanting it to continue.  

You used some good trade offs in this script.  You are one of the only writers I've ever seen do dual dialogue... A small thing, but it shows you know your way around the craft.  So that pains me every time I see (continued) at the tops and bottoms of every page... knock that stuff off or turn it off... something!

The ending was very abrupt, almost begging for it to continue -- but, as I said, I really wasn't looking forward to turning the page again if it did.   I applaud your efforts on the timeline and the overall mood of this script.  The amount of time it took to write it was just not on your side here.
Posted by: greg, October 20th, 2011, 11:47pm; Reply: 14
I thought this was good.  Could be chiseled down by a few pages but this was definitely a different take.

I didn't see the twist coming.  I actually thought it was going to be something sci-fi-ish, so good work on that.  Two things though - the first is that in 1865 it would be really tough for these guys to get a picture of themselves together.  I guess if it's just the two of them standing next to each other, but the way their relationship is you think the picture would be a little more...relationship-y?  And in 1865?  Maybe a little poem or something instead.

But I liked this.  

Good job.

Greg
Posted by: TheUsualSuspect, October 21st, 2011, 1:27am; Reply: 15
Grows some balls, ha.

Didn't see the end coming, but that makes two scripts I've read where it ended like that.

I actually liked this one. Some choice words in the descriptions that could use cleaning up, but a solid effort.

Not GOTHIC enough for me though. Not GOTHIC at all in my opinion.
Posted by: leitskev, October 21st, 2011, 9:49pm; Reply: 16
Hey history buff.

A lot of good writing on display here. Sorry I don't have time for a longer review. Couple things to point out.

I didn't think killing the wife made sense. The locket should have been enough. Maybe Amos could up the pressure by discussing some things shared between them. Embarrassing things. And it means the ghost does not have to have a gun, which is bad form for spirits.

The biting tongue aspect to the murder is not at all consistent with the love expressed in the final words. This should have been a mercy killing. The tongue thing is cheap.

strong effort. Could do well at festivals. I read that films that deal with homosexuality are generally advanced through the early rounds no matter what, for the PC crowd. Good luck.
Posted by: rdhay, October 23rd, 2011, 7:28pm; Reply: 17
Yeah, I agree that the twist was effective. But I didn't feel the gothic horror vibe at all. The exchange between Henry and Melinda reminded me of a script in the last OWC and that was meant to be a bit comedic (I think...). Anyway, good job. With the comments you've gotten here, it'll make for a nice rewrite:)
Posted by: Quiou, October 24th, 2011, 4:32pm; Reply: 18
I loved the story and your script. It was well written, and the story was interesting. A subject you don't see often in this era. I knew what was going to happen before the ending, but I don't mind. Overall great script. one of my favorite!
Posted by: Hugh Hoyland, October 30th, 2011, 8:20am; Reply: 19
I'll skip the spelling errors and such as they have been mentioned.

Story wise, not bad at all. Had a bit of a squirm factor there, and not just because of the gore either lol. A premise that comes out of left field IMO, who knows, something like it might have happened for real.

Quite original either way, good job!
Posted by: albinopenguin, October 30th, 2011, 5:20pm; Reply: 20
hey everyone, just wanted to say thank you SO much for reading my script and commenting. you all had great advice and i will definitely put it to good use.

as far as formatting errors are concerned, i wrote this on celtx.

when it came to the genre, gothic horror is strictly defined as horror and romance. so i stuck to the bare bones of the genre and ran with it. did it qualify as a standard "gothic horror" script? probably not. but i was okay with that and wanted to write it anyways.

overall i think this script suffered from two things, lack of time and a page limit. i wanted to build up the eeriness at the beginning but couldn't because we can't exceed 12 pages. but thats what makes these OWC so difficult...and fun.

some of you didn't like the tone of the beginning. however i'm keeping it. i wanted to open on something a bit light. plus it pokes fun at the protag for not being able to "get it up" around his wife (because he's gay).

i do have one question however for all of you who commented. do your comments still stand outside of the OWC? in other words, ditch the genre requirements and judge this script on its own. would you still recommend i change the things you suggested i change, outside the confines of the OWC? i just need to know for the rewrite. thanks!

oh and the title was misspelled on purpose
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