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Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 4th, 2012, 12:03pm
Hello, long time no see (mainly because I am antisocial  ??)  

Anyone out there have any advice on who to contact regarding a script I've written, based on true events in England in the 80s?  Normally I'm near repulsed by footie hooligan films because most (not all) have been pretty abysmal.  Mine is based on true events and is told from the police force's angle.

I know it's not perfect - well actually I DON'T but I'm not deluded either  ;D - but for now I'm just looking for initial contacts to try getting in touch with.

Many thanks
Posted by: danbotha, December 4th, 2012, 8:04pm; Reply: 1
Hey there,

It sounds like you may have isolated the idea to suit an audience in England. If that's the case, try and get hold of Film Producers in England or even see if you can contact Agents who might take on the script.

It might be worth your while to get a couple other people to have a read of it as well, just so you can get some solid feedback.

Not sure if this helps...

PM me for anything else

Dan
Posted by: marriot, December 5th, 2012, 3:27am; Reply: 2

Quoted from One Northern Soul
Mine is based on true events and is told from the police force's angle.


Now that's an interesting approach to a hooligan film. Most try too hard to be underworld-cool and end up distasteful cliched rubbish. If you've got anywhere near a half-decent script you should be onto a winner I reckon.

There's lists of uk script agents online if you google, and if you want a proper punt then this site has an 'unsolicited ideas' submissions page -

http://angeleye.co.uk/

Good luck with that, it really does sound like a better sort of footy film. [edit - which would be bloody good too see for once! Green Street p***ed me off no end.]
Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 5th, 2012, 7:45am; Reply: 3
thank you both, brilliant stuff, it DOES help just knowing there are writers who know what they're talking about and show a keen sense of camaraderie too :D

Green Street - on imdb it has a really good rating too.  UNBELIEVABLE :lol:
Posted by: irish eyes, December 5th, 2012, 3:20pm; Reply: 4
This was one of my favs



John, an ambitious young copper, is sent undercover into the hardcore football gangs to track down the 'generals' - the shadowy figures who orchestrate the violence. Gradually, the hard drinking, hard fighting macho world - where Saturday's match and Saturday's rumble are all that matters - proves irresistible and John slowly finds himself turning into one of the thugs he has been sent to destroy.

Mark
Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 6th, 2012, 5:03am; Reply: 5
That's 'ID' isn't it (couldnt see the link)...  I'll be honest, I hated it but not as much as I hated Green Street :P
Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 6th, 2012, 8:17am; Reply: 6
Thanks for the interest guys, I've email pitched it to Angel Eye as suggested by Marriot, I like the look of their site/'portfolio' plus their submissions method does appear trustworthy.  They say they try and reply within 4 weeks so I will let you know.

Yes Dan, it's distinctly an English story (and English 'disease' in fact according to the rest of the continent where of course football hooliganism never has occurred and never will do :D ).  It's set in the 1980s in Birmingham, West Midlands.  

I'm virtually virginal with screenplays, I'm more a books writer and whilst I have faith in my screenwriting ability, I am always interested in constructive criticism.  Regarding script agents, can anyone on here recommend anyone?  Bluntly speaking, and I DON'T mean this forum, I've been stung a few times in the writing business by people claiming to be 'benevolent' and not in it for the money or to try and shaft other writers, so my Bullshit Detector Wristband is usually on red alert :D  
Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 27th, 2012, 6:27am; Reply: 7
Jesus :D  this email really did arrive Christmas Day :P

Dear Robert

We have now had a chance to read and discuss your proposal: 'Operation Zulu' and, on balance, we have decided that it is not a project we wish to pursue further.

Unfortunately we are unable to offer specific feedback on individual submissions.

Best of luck with the project in the future and many thanks for taking the time to send it to us.

Best wishes

Richard Osborne
Managing Director
Angel Eye Media Ltd

Come January I will be contacting 'leads' phone firdt.

All the best
Posted by: marriot, December 27th, 2012, 2:48pm; Reply: 8
sorry to hear angeleye have got their short-sighted glasses on - worth a punt though. do you reckon the email was sent on xmas day? poor bugger, must be a lonely job if it was!

(and lol at the 'english' disease. yeah right... look at italy, holland (jeez holland is bad), turkey, never mind the eastern europeans. it was bad enough back in the day (before my time), but we were amateurs at hooliganism. they take it seriously)
Posted by: One Northern Soul, December 28th, 2012, 7:11am; Reply: 9
I bet you wouldn't guess where the hooliganism is the worst now, Maz, in Europe.

I'm reliably informed by my co-writer who is still working in the anti-hooliganism 'business'.

Clue - it's a nice climate :D
Posted by: Andrew, December 28th, 2012, 8:53am; Reply: 10
It's not popular, but Football Factory always makes me smile - great little film if you chuck expectations out of the window. Or maybe I just like it 'cos I'm a muggy little cu*t.

Would love to see a football hooligan film that doesn't rely on the old stereotypes. There was an attempt (and good lead performance) in Cass, but the film itself never quite meshed.
Posted by: One Northern Soul, January 2nd, 2013, 6:53am; Reply: 11
I've enjoyed most of the hooligan films but I don't take them too seriously and I do often put on hold my pedantry and scepticism :D

I liked the FF, and Awaydays, but I've tried to write something which is real (of course) and realistic.  
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