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Posted by: Don, February 15th, 2015, 10:44am
The Scripts of the February 2015 OWC
Theme: Urban Legend
Genre: Open

Writers' Choice

The Final Piece by Ryan Lee (writing as: Grace Beaumont) - Short, Horror - A lonely old woman loves nothing more than completing her jigsaw puzzles.  But when a mysterious box arrives on her doorstep one night, her life is about to take a horrifying turn. - pdf, format 8)

Writers' Choice Runners Up - 3

A Change of Heart by Eric Wall (writing as: Demetrius Harris) - Short, Comedy - A desperate virgin's excursion to a dive bar yields unexpected results. 8 pages - pdf, format 8)

Bitch's Revenge by Marnie Mitchell-Lister (writing as: Julien Lowe) - Short, Drama - While a man recovers from a car accident, it becomes apparent that he may have too many bitches. - pdf, format 8)

Turn Me On Dead Man by David Clarke Lambertson (eldave1) (writing as: Russell "Stringer" Bell) - Short, Noir - John Lennon's struggle with his role in disguising the death of a young Paul McCartney.  - pdf, format 8)

And the rest in alphabetical order

4.0 by Sean Chipman (Mr. Blonde) (writing as: Dar Adal) - Short, Psychological, Thriller - A chronic underachiever must decide if he's willing to kill his roommate, and best friend, in order to receive a perfect Grade Point Average. - pdf, format 8)

Angels by Rick Kinsella (Scar Tissues Films) (writing as: Squeedie Armadillo) - Short, Drama - A life changing experience leaves a City worker questioning whether Miracles exist, and whether they are a good thing, or not. - pdf, format 8)

Apple by Chris Ray (kip) (writing as: June Stahl) - Short, Drama - When a boy learns something about the humble apple, he wonders if it could change his life for the better.   8 pages - pdf, format 8)

Arthur the Legend by Mark Moore (Irish Eyes) (writing as: Victor Drazen) - Short - A senile old man becomes a legend among legends. - pdf, format 8)

Bigfoot in Love by Chris Bodily (writing as: Fernando Sucre) - Short, Romantic, Comedy - Bigfoot -- 40 years old, neurotic, and still living with his parents -- goes on his first-ever (blind) date. But will it go smoothly? 9 pages - pdf, format 8)

Brock Mclean vs The Fairfax Bunny by Steve Cooper (CoopBazinga) (writing as: Anna Del Amico) - Short, Action, Comedy - A confident swindler attempts to track down the “bunny man” that has been terrorizing a small town.  - pdf, format 8)

Strangers Come A Knockin' Round Midnight by Janet Clarke (wonkavite) (writing as: Tyrus Kitt) - Short, Horror, Fantasy - Mary just wants a peaceful evening at home. But the neighboring kids won't leave her alone! - pdf, format 8)

The Bunny Man Untold by Steve McDonell (stevie) (writing as: Christopher Moltisanti) - Short, Comedy - A reporter interviews a survivor of an urban legend encounter   14 pages pdf - pdf, format 8)

Captain Hook by Richard Russell (writing as: Leonardo Leonardo) - Short, Urban Legend - Every lovers lane has its own Captain Hook.  What a way to scare someone. - pdf, format 8)

Death Road by Glenn Doyle (writing as: Escobar Gallardo) - Short, Horror, Mystery - A year after Andrew and Stacey are involved in a car crash, they unknowingly meet again when Stacey hitches a ride.  - pdf, format 8)

Doctor Shopping by Dustin Bowcott (writing as: Richard Matheson) - Short, Urban Fantasy - After getting caught doctor shopping, a hypochondriac finds someone willing to prescribe him everything he needs. - pdf, format 8)

Emily by Dena McKinnon (pale yellow) (writing as: Lincolnia Lee) - Short, Horror - A child hears screaming at her window. Is it her calling?  - pdf, format 8)

Greets From Counter-Earth by Alex Brauck (PrussianMosby) (writing as: Irina Derevko) - Short, Sci Fi - A space probe launched in 1977 named Voyager One, contrary to its original mission of reaching intelligent life far away, returns. - pdf, format 8)

Hagridden by Henry Christner (writing as: Commodore Perry Ladeu) - Short, Drama - With his wedding day approaching, a man believes he has fallen in love with another woman -- his long-time tormentor. - pdf, format 8)

Happy Anniversary by Steven Harvey (NI-Gunner) (writing as: Dr. Oliver Thredson) - Short, Horror - 0 - pdf, format 8)

Hitched by Ammar Salmi (realxwriter) (writing as: Vince Masuka) - Short, Horror, Thriller - A woman tries to save a man and his daughter from a deranged man whom she dropped at their gas station without even knowing. - pdf, format 8)

Teeth by Bill Sarre (Reef Dreamer) (writing as: Hank Scorpio) - Short, Drama - Tormented by violent noises in his head, a wounded soldier must persuade the doctors that it's caused by his teeth, before they diagnose him as insane. - pdf, format 8)

Humans Can Lick Too by Khamanna Iskandarova (writing as: Varlyn Stroud) - Short, Horror - A girl received a chain letter telling her the way she's going to die in the next hour - pdf, format 8)

The Phantom Barber by Mohammad Nawaz (writing as: Alex Krycek) - Short, Comedy - Filthy, insatiable, a fiend of the night -- the Phantom Barber, sometimes mistaken as Frank Sidebottom, terrorizes the town of Pascagoula, Mississippi. - pdf, format 8)

Poetry Corner by Anthony Cawood (writing as: Don "The Matador" Everest) - Short, Horror - Four school friends dare each other to take on an urban legend and prove that there's nothing to be scared of... could there be though?  - pdf, format 8)

Prepared by Ray (rayw) (writing as: Paul Kinsey) - Short, Horror, Action - Sergeant Smyth and Deputy Stephenson will be transporting a bus load of inmates to their final destination for crimes-- Nah. They're screwed. All of them. - pdf, format 8)

Pushed by Darren J Seeley (writing as: Allen McQuerin III) - Short, Drama - Jealous over a new girl's popularity, a group of students harass her unaware of the repercussions over the prank that spirals out of control. - pdf, format 8)

Roadside Attraction by Gary Howell (Hawkeye) (writing as: Dr. Marvin Candle) - Short, Mystery - A young man finds that a woman he rescues from an automobile accident is hiding a terrible secret. 8 pages - pdf, format 8)

Saliva by Kyle Bowler (Kyle-92) (writing as: Milton Mamet) - Short, Horror - A young women finds out that she may have shared the first night in her new house with a complete stranger. - pdf, format 8)

Strained Relations by Steve Cooper (CoopBazinga) (writing as: John Clark, Jr.) - Short, Drama, Horror - A long-suffering husband hopes to save his marriage while on an anniversary trip to Las Vegas, but is it too late? - pdf, format 8)

The Wandering Bus by Debbie McCall (writing as: Robert Quarles) - Short - A young girl learns about the wandering bus from a stranger after she runs away from home. - pdf, format 8)


Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 15th, 2015, 11:04am; Reply: 1
Thanks, Don, as always.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 15th, 2015, 11:18am; Reply: 2
I second that.

I much appreciate the chance to enter this.
Posted by: khamanna, February 15th, 2015, 11:35am; Reply: 3
Thanks Don for posting all in one day. And for posting period - that takes quite a bit of work I suppose.

And thanks Sean for the challenge - it was fun to research the legends and write one. I thouroughly enjoyed the topic, nice one.
Posted by: realxwriter, February 15th, 2015, 2:04pm; Reply: 4
Could someone explain to me the mechanics of OWC, or point me to the page that explain them? How is the winner chosen? Does the score we give the scripts have any effect? What's the date when our reviews cease to affect the contest results?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Ryan1, February 15th, 2015, 2:43pm; Reply: 5

Quoted from realxwriter
Could someone explain to me the mechanics of OWC, or point me to the page that explain them? How is the winner chosen? Does the score we give the scripts have any effect? What's the date when our reviews cease to affect the contest results?

Thanks in advance.


If you entered, it's common courtesy to review at least some of the entries.  Some writers review them all.  Winner is chosen from a poll emailed to the writers about a week from now.  Although, since its a challenge, not a contest, there are technically no "winners."    
Posted by: Don, February 15th, 2015, 3:43pm; Reply: 6

Quoted from realxwriter
Could someone explain to me the mechanics of OWC, or point me to the page that explain them? How is the winner chosen? Does the score we give the scripts have any effect? What's the date when our reviews cease to affect the contest results?

Thanks in advance.


It is a challenge, not a contest.  There are no winners.  You can give a score if you wish.  Toward the end of the week, I'll send an email to the writers - the participants who wrote a script - asking which of those they read they liked the best.  Of those, one will be chosen as "Writer's Choice".  The Writer's Choice isn't necessarily the best script, just the one that most writers enjoyed the most.

Don
Posted by: stevie, February 15th, 2015, 4:16pm; Reply: 7
Cheers Don.  Will start adding this morn! I usually list the ones as I read them and give a brief thought so I can recall them.

I only give shortish and sweetish kind of reviews, just noting what I liked or didn't like. If anyone wants deeper feedback -lol - just PM me. I don't mention grammar errors unless there's heaps but I will jump on factual, historical or metaphysical errors (?).

Time to start with the Paul is Dead one!  Look out! Lol
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 15th, 2015, 4:21pm; Reply: 8
Starting by reviewing your own, Stevie? That's bold. Wait, was I not supposed to reveal that?... Oh, who am I kidding? Anybody who knows you knows that's not yours. Lol. =)
Posted by: Stumpzian, February 15th, 2015, 4:29pm; Reply: 9


I'm impressed with how much reading/reviewing is going on the first day.

I have to remind myself that I have all week.  I can overdose without realizing it -- which can cause me to be impatient and flippant, and to rush to judgment. I already can think of a couple of scripts I need to revisit.

Henry
Posted by: stevie, February 15th, 2015, 4:34pm; Reply: 10

Quoted from Mr. Blonde
Starting by reviewing your own, Stevie? That's bold. Wait, was I not supposed to reveal that?... Oh, who am I kidding? Anybody who knows you knows that's not yours. Lol. =)



If you play Dear Prudence backwards while wearing cutoffs and facing North, the voice sounds like someone speaking Etruscan, an ancient Italian type language.

Apparently it says: 'Paul sleeps with the fishes'... ;D
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 15th, 2015, 4:41pm; Reply: 11

Quoted from stevie
Apparently it says: 'Paul sleeps with the fishes'... ;D


Not if you believe one of our beloved OWC entries... =)
Posted by: irish eyes, February 15th, 2015, 6:09pm; Reply: 12
Thanks for all the hard work Don and Sean... a great OWC
Posted by: LC, February 15th, 2015, 11:23pm; Reply: 13
Weren't links going to be posted with these scripts with the source material of the urban legend? I think it might have helped with a few of the more obscure/hybrid entries.

Don't get me wrong, the story should stand alone...
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 15th, 2015, 11:30pm; Reply: 14
Yes, a couple people have mentioned that, so far. The issue is three-fold. The first is that I didn't have a requirement (nor did I want to) to name the scripts after your urban legend. The second is that not everyone who entered PM'd me a request, so I don't have a complete list. Last is that there were several multiples which makes things a bit harder. That's not to say that I'm not trying, but it takes a bit of time. I'll certainly have them within a few days. Hopefully, by tomorrow.
Posted by: LC, February 16th, 2015, 12:12am; Reply: 15
As you were. Didn't mean to add any pressure.  8)
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 16th, 2015, 2:03am; Reply: 16
In the reviews I started out doing, I make mention (if not already) of what Urban Legend it represents.
Posted by: LC, February 16th, 2015, 3:12am; Reply: 17
Good on you DJS. I think I've made note of a couple too.

Just a shout out to anyone - I'm not in the race this time around so won't get through all of these and can't vote, but if anyone wants theirs read and reviewed, feel free to PM me.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 16th, 2015, 8:34am; Reply: 18
There nothing quite like waking up the morning after the scripts have been released to discover just folk think of your script....sigh.

There's no competition(challenge ) quite like it.

Nice to take part though.

Now, back to reading. Time to get my JEFF glasses on  ??)
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 16th, 2015, 9:01am; Reply: 19

Quoted from Reef Dreamer
There nothing quite like waking up the morning after the scripts have been released to discover just folk think of your script....sigh.

There's no competition(challenge ) quite like it.

Nice to take part though.

Now, back to reading. Time to get my JEFF glasses on  ??)



HUH?  What you talkin', bout Willis?   ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: realxwriter, February 17th, 2015, 11:12am; Reply: 20
Some scripts had their scene header in bold font. The whole format appearance didn't feel like something Final Draft will print out. What software are they using? I know you can also bold scene header in FD, but I want to know about the other one.
Posted by: RayW, February 17th, 2015, 11:32am; Reply: 21

Quoted from Reef Dreamer
There nothing quite like waking up the morning after the scripts have been released to discover just folk think of your script....sigh.


Chuckle-out-loud, yeah.
I'm kinda dumbfounded by some of the aspects provided on my submission's reviews.
I'm wondering what short they were reading.



Quoted from realxwriter
Some scripts had their scene header in bold font... What software are they using? I know you can also bold scene header in FD, but I want to know about the other one.

Celtx has an option to make bold slug lines/headers.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 17th, 2015, 11:35am; Reply: 22

Quoted from realxwriter
Some scripts had their scene header in bold font. The whole format appearance didn't feel like something Final Draft will print out. What software are they using? I know you can also bold scene header in FD, but I want to know about the other one.


You can bold your Slugs in any screenwriting software, I would imagine.

Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 17th, 2015, 12:01pm; Reply: 23

Quoted from realxwriter
Some scripts had their scene header in bold font. The whole format appearance didn't feel like something Final Draft will print out. What software are they using? I know you can also bold scene header in FD, but I want to know about the other one.


As Sly and the family Stone once said, 'Different Strokes for different folks..."
I'm none too crazy about the bold header movement but over the last few years it has grown in popularity. I myself am not a huge fan of it - but it is my understanding that it is an option when writing. Is it 'necessary'? No. But not being necessary in this case does not automatically mean it's wrong. Bold headers, as long as they have the INT/EXT. PLACE - TIME or subhead location are still headers and the least of a script's possible problems. I myself won't mention it in a review unless the writer does not have consistency (i.e. if the headers start out boldface, then are unbolded on page X and back to bold on the next and so on.) Some folks may or may not share my views on the matter.

As noted, most screenwriting programs allow you to boldface any text.

Posted by: realxwriter, February 17th, 2015, 12:28pm; Reply: 24
Thanks guys. I know that you can boldface them in any editor, but I was wondering about the one that does par default.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 17th, 2015, 12:34pm; Reply: 25

Quoted from realxwriter
Thanks guys. I know that you can boldface them in any editor, but I was wondering about the one that does par default.


It shouldn't be by default, as it's not industry standard.

Posted by: DS, February 17th, 2015, 12:43pm; Reply: 26

Quoted from realxwriter
Thanks guys. I know that you can boldface them in any editor, but I was wondering about the one that does par default.


Trelby has bold scene headings from the default settings, but only when writing. Once exported to PDF they revert to normal unless the PDF settings about the scene headings are changed so that they will always be bold. I'm sure this can be done on any decent software out there.

I'm a big bold scene headings supporter, can't exactly pinpoint why, they just make a script look more appealing and break up the Courier monotony. Bit easier to keep track of scenes, too.
Posted by: realxwriter, February 17th, 2015, 1:41pm; Reply: 27

Quoted from RayW


Chuckle-out-loud, yeah.
I'm kinda dumbfounded by some of the aspects provided on my submission's reviews.
I'm wondering what short they were reading.


Now, now. You don't wanna be giving feedback on feedback. It makes you look as if you are getting defensive. There is no point rejecting or even criticizing other people opinion on your work. The only people you argue with are the ones who has influence on your script. A director, a producer, an actor... etc. But other people's opinions have to be always welcomed, because there is no point arguing. It would only stop them from reviewing your other work. Nobody likes to be talked back to when he's volunteering his own time to read your stuff and write you his thoughts about it.

Treat them like drinks you found in the desert. You don't wanna picky with that, do you?

Only my humble opinion of course. I hope I didn't just open a can of worms.
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 17th, 2015, 2:11pm; Reply: 28
I think I've finished. I don't take them in order... so I'll have a run through to make sure I didn't miss any. Quality was quite low this time around, I feel. Three or four considers.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 17th, 2015, 2:21pm; Reply: 29
I didn't enjoy any of the scripts in this OWC, to be perfectly honest.

The quality of the writing was almost universally high, but none of the scripts worked for me. It would be a Pass on all.

I've felt like an absolute Grinch during this OWC. Almost every review has been the same. There's only one script I came across that worked at all...and that's only because it stuck religiously to the original urban legend.

In choosing my topic, I'd already read all the legends. Reading them again,  just extended and often weakened, wasn't much fun. The challenge was a good one, but it essentially encouraged everyone to merely plagiarise already existing tales.  All the decent stuff came from the quality of the legends. All the additions failed, imho.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 17th, 2015, 2:29pm; Reply: 30

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
I didn't enjoy any of the scripts in this OWC, to be perfectly honest.

The quality of the writing was almost universally high, but none of the scripts worked for me. It would be a Pass on all.

I've felt like an absolute Grinch during this OWC. Almost every review has been the same. There's only one script I came across that worked at all...and that's only because it stuck religiously to the original urban legend.

In choosing my topic, I'd already read all the legends. Reading them again,  just extended and often weakened, wasn't much fun. The challenge was a good one, but it essentially encouraged everyone to merely plagiarise already existing tales.  All the decent stuff came from the quality of the legends. All the additions failed, imho.


Whilst I agree you have been miserable  ;D I actually I do agree in part. Having read some of the Urban Legands, when one popped up that was close to the original I felt under whelmed. Know it already etc which is a tad unfair.

But then again we're meant to be writing something new, a new angle, new twist, so something close to the original would be considered less than a new take.
Posted by: khamanna, February 17th, 2015, 2:57pm; Reply: 31
I'm on a contrary thinking it's one of the strongest OWC's. I read only 9 I think. So far 2 recommends, maybe more, but two for sure and like 5 considers.

I think all 9 should be rewrote, more or less but still very strong work.

I don't even want to read any further - you guys put me to shame with your work.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 18th, 2015, 4:26pm; Reply: 32
You know what, I sometimes think I know who the writers are...not this time. I haven't a clue on any of them.

A few to go though.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 18th, 2015, 4:53pm; Reply: 33
...and I've been a grinch as well.

I agree with Rick that the quality this OWC is very low...in terms of writing and story.

I've got about 5 more to go.  I actually really liked one.  I thought one was decent to pretty good.  And another two were borderline OK.  The rest?  Very poor, IMO.

I know I've pissed some peeps off, and I apologize, as I always do.  If there's nothing to be taekn from my feedback, please, disregard completely.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 18th, 2015, 4:58pm; Reply: 34
All reviewed and a pretty mixed bag as you'd expect, now I can go write something!
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 18th, 2015, 10:12pm; Reply: 35

Quoted from Dreamscale

If there's nothing to be taken from my feedback, please, disregard completely.


No problemo
Posted by: Stumpzian, February 19th, 2015, 9:00am; Reply: 36

I'm puzzled that so many have TWO names. One on the title page, a different one with the logline.

Interesting Google results. Thanks, marnieml.
Posted by: LC, February 19th, 2015, 9:15am; Reply: 37

Quoted from Stumpzian
I'm puzzled that so many have TWO names. One on the title page, a different one with the logline. ...

Often was the case if you came up with your own moniker Don would leave it at that.

Perhaps he decided this time around - nope you're getting the name I give you.



Posted by: stevie, February 19th, 2015, 4:15pm; Reply: 38
Change of heart was Christian Barnard who was a heart transplant doctor
Posted by: Don, February 19th, 2015, 4:23pm; Reply: 39

Quoted from mmmarnie
I feel like Don is trying to tell us something with these names. Someone please crack the code!!



I'd like to take credit, but it was not me who came up with the names.

Don
Posted by: Ryan1, February 19th, 2015, 4:27pm; Reply: 40
I didn't research them all, but quite a few I recognized as characters from TV shows:

Alex Krycek - The X Files
Grace Beaumont - Revolution
Robert Quarles- Justified
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 19th, 2015, 7:39pm; Reply: 41
Mr. Blonde strikes again...
Posted by: LC, February 19th, 2015, 8:43pm; Reply: 42
Who is Allen McQuerin III?
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 19th, 2015, 8:45pm; Reply: 43
Guys, there are three I didn't come up with. If you want, you guys can figure out all the rest. The first one to get them all wins a Sutter Cane lunchbox. Lol. =)
Posted by: mmmarnie, February 19th, 2015, 9:53pm; Reply: 44
I know a secret about Commodore Perry Ladeu....
Posted by: khamanna, February 20th, 2015, 1:07am; Reply: 45
And are these randomly assigned?
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, February 20th, 2015, 2:21am; Reply: 46
Some people put their own anonymous name on the script....sometimes it means something, sometimes it doesn't,
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 20th, 2015, 7:30pm; Reply: 47
Well...not sure if I should say this, but I'm going to.

30 scripts, hopefully 30 different writers, and the script with the most reads is at 26, and many below 15.  Very sad.

I didn't enter, but did comment on all 30, whether or not I read all, some, or 1 page...I commented on every single entry, while not even participating as a writer.

Know that that means?  It means, as is usually the case, very few of the actual participants too part in reading and commenting on the scripts.

Sad, peeps, very sad...
Posted by: Stumpzian, February 20th, 2015, 7:42pm; Reply: 48

I had the same thought.

Should an entrant be allowed to vote if he or she hasn't read each entry? No.
Posted by: IamGlenn, February 20th, 2015, 8:00pm; Reply: 49
I took part and have only reviewed 4.
I've had a very busy week.
There's still a week left though and I plan on getting through the lot.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 20th, 2015, 8:01pm; Reply: 50
I didn't enter and I'm pretty sure Bert did not either, but we've both read a few.

This always happens though and it's always annoying. Just how it goes, I guess.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 20th, 2015, 8:01pm; Reply: 51
I've read em all, but as Glenn said, there is still a week left.
Posted by: Stumpzian, February 20th, 2015, 8:04pm; Reply: 52
A week left? I thought we had one week. Over on Sunday. No?
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 20th, 2015, 8:06pm; Reply: 53
Voting starts next week. You can still read and properly review, even if you know who wrote what.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 20th, 2015, 8:27pm; Reply: 54
And think I'm right that names arent revealed until 27th? (According to start of this sticky)

So almost a week to go...
Posted by: eldave1, February 20th, 2015, 8:45pm; Reply: 55

Quoted from Dreamscale
Well...not sure if I should say this, but I'm going to.

30 scripts, hopefully 30 different writers, and the script with the most reads is at 26, and many below 15.  Very sad.

I didn't enter, but did comment on all 30, whether or not I read all, some, or 1 page...I commented on every single entry, while not even participating as a writer.

Know that that means?  It means, as is usually the case, very few of the actual participants too part in reading and commenting on the scripts.

Sad, peeps, very sad...


I think you might be confusing the # of comments with the # of reads stats. For example, "The Final Piece" had 28 comments but 591 views.  

Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 20th, 2015, 9:22pm; Reply: 56

Quoted from eldave1
I think you might be confusing the # of comments with the # of reads stats. For example, "The Final Piece" had 28 comments but 591 views.  


Sorry...off by 2.  I said the max was 26...now it's 28.

Most have less than 15 comments.

I'm surprised there's another week to go, as things die down quickly after the first week...or first 5 days even.

It is what it is...

Posted by: stevie, February 20th, 2015, 10:49pm; Reply: 57
This is the part about the anomyity i dont like - entrants who dont read any of the others get away with it.

A couple of challenges ago, someone who read zero actually tied to 'win' the votes!!

One time Don put a star against scripts whose authors had reviewed bugger all so we could choose not to read that.  Something like that anyway.
Posted by: eldave1, February 21st, 2015, 12:22am; Reply: 58

Quoted from Dreamscale


Sorry...off by 2.  I said the max was 26...now it's 28.

Most have less than 15 comments.

I'm surprised there's another week to go, as things die down quickly after the first week...or first 5 days even.

It is what it is...



Not sure you got my point - there were 591 views - I assume a good portion of those were reads - maybe not

Posted by: stevie, February 21st, 2015, 1:45am; Reply: 59
Dave, the view stat only refers to the number of times the particular thread of that script was clicked open. You could sit there for hours clicking away and get the views up to a million if you didn't go crazy lol.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 21st, 2015, 3:02am; Reply: 60

Quoted from stevie
Dave, the view stat only refers to the number of times the particular thread of that script was clicked open. You could sit there for hours clicking away and get the views up to a million if you didn't go crazy lol.


Take a look at this thread...at this time. at least 2000 views. Less then 100 comments.

I can almost guarantee 80% of those page views are that of the writer of that piece, checking in every two hours to see who says what on their thread. Hopefully they use that time on SS to read another script. They don't have to comment on everything, put they have read them and comment on something....but alas, every OWC has at least one odd bird in the bunch.

Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 21st, 2015, 3:26am; Reply: 61

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley


I can almost guarantee 80% of those page views are that of the writer of that piece, checking in every two hours to see who says what on their thread.


Perhaps that is what you do.

Mostly the internet is covered in bots. Who knows how many Google has, let alone the other search engines. Then there are email harvesters, information harvesters and content generators that steal info from here and place it on their own website.

http://www.spamlaws.com/how-internet-bots-are-used.html

Then you've got legitimate hits (of which there will be far, far fewer) that can come from anywhere.

I'd say that your 80% is way off.
Posted by: realxwriter, February 21st, 2015, 4:48am; Reply: 62
Do we still have another week to read before the voting ends?

That would be great since I didn't have time to do much reviewing. I was caught up in a different kind of contest that ended only yesterday.
Posted by: IamGlenn, February 21st, 2015, 6:16am; Reply: 63
Yes. The writers aren't revealed until the 27th.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 21st, 2015, 11:33am; Reply: 64

Quoted from Dreamscale
Well...not sure if I should say this, but I'm going to.

30 scripts, hopefully 30 different writers, and the script with the most reads is at 26, and many below 15.  Very sad.

I didn't enter, but did comment on all 30, whether or not I read all, some, or 1 page...I commented on every single entry, while not even participating as a writer.

Know that that means?  It means, as is usually the case, very few of the actual participants too part in reading and commenting on the scripts.

Sad, peeps, very sad...


yeah, usual situation.

what surprises me is the difference in reads between the scripts, whether good or bad. Some get re read others languish for no apparent reason.

i suppose it evens out if folk try and review all, or those that haven't had so much attention.
Posted by: Kyle, February 21st, 2015, 1:09pm; Reply: 65
I've read and reviewed over two thirds of the scripts so far but haven't put anything up yet. I've done it this way because I plan to give them all a second read to see if my thoughts change or I can add anything. Maybe other participants are doing something similar.
Posted by: irish eyes, February 21st, 2015, 4:12pm; Reply: 66

Quoted from Stevie
A couple of challenges ago, someone who read zero actually tied to 'win' the votes!!


I remember that son of a bitch :D  I came 2nd on that one pissed me off ;D

Not to make excuses but there are those of us working 2 jobs in construction and coming home to our kids, while trying to jam in a late night read... if only I had an office job or no life ;D
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 21st, 2015, 4:14pm; Reply: 67

Quoted from DustinBowcot


Perhaps that is what you do.


No, it isn't.
And that % was random.
And your thread is indeed botted  ;D
nobody bots me though.  ;D
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 21st, 2015, 4:52pm; Reply: 68

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley


No, it isn't.


I didn't expect you to admit it.


Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley

And that % was random.


That % was reflective of your opinion.


Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley

And your thread is indeed botted  ;D


The internet is 'botted'. Although I agree certain threads may encourage a greater degree of bot visits than others, depending on keywords utilised throughout.


Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley

nobody bots me though.  ;D

That's not what the rumours say.
Posted by: Leegion, February 21st, 2015, 5:00pm; Reply: 69
Think I've read 10, ATM.  Maybe 11/12.  I'll get to the rest this week at some point, probably won't vote on anything though as it's unfair if I haven't read them all.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 21st, 2015, 5:18pm; Reply: 70

Quoted from Leegion
Think I've read 10, ATM.  Maybe 11/12.  I'll get to the rest this week at some point, probably won't vote on anything though as it's unfair if I haven't read them all.


Everyone who can, should vote. Yes, only vote on those you read. But that's fine.

You are not voting for the winner, you vote on the standard of what you read. The winner is the collective of the votes, so all help.

Now, get reading. :-)

Posted by: Stumpzian, February 21st, 2015, 5:31pm; Reply: 71

Quoted from Reef Dreamer


Everyone who can, should vote. Yes, only vote on those you read. But that's fine.

You are not voting for the winner, you vote on the standard of what you read. The winner is the collective of the votes, so all help.



I have a different opinion. You should vote only if you've read them all.

I defer to Don, though.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 21st, 2015, 6:28pm; Reply: 72

Quoted from Stumpzian
I have a different opinion. You should vote only if you've read them all.


Right on, bro...right on!!!

Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 21st, 2015, 6:45pm; Reply: 73
Even a one sentence review to say whether you liked it or not is OK. It doesn't take long to read ten pages. Thirty minutes a day and you could read through every script. Even one word would be fine, IMO. Pass, Consider or Recommend. If you get more then take it for whatever you think it is worth.

For 30 entries there should be 30 reads. I think we're at just over 2/3 which is pretty good, but we should be hitting 90% with some genuinely not having the time to do it (on their deathbeds, or something).
Posted by: nawazm11, February 21st, 2015, 8:31pm; Reply: 74

Quoted from Stumpzian


I have a different opinion. You should vote only if you've read them all.



I'd also like to say I noticed a lot, and I mean a lot of people reading two paragraphs and then literally writing they couldn't finish the script, and then consequently writing in this very thread as their final consensus -- "Yeah, I've read every script"

But really, they haven't, and the ones who tend to do the whole 'read 1 paragraph, said it's bad' routine especially, barely even finish 50% of the entries. That is no where near reading every script. Not calling names here, but it is what it is. I think the previous OWC was the only OWC in around two years where I couldn't finish every entry because of time constraints, and being honest here, the writing really isn't on that bad a level to quit before readers even finish the first page.
Posted by: mmmarnie, February 21st, 2015, 8:43pm; Reply: 75

Quoted from nawazm11


I'd also like to say I noticed a lot, and I mean a lot of people reading two paragraphs and then literally writing they couldn't finish the script, and then consequently writing in this very thread as their final consensus -- "Yeah, I've read every script"



I think it's safe to say if they couldn't make it past page 1, or 3 or whatever, they wouldn't have voted for that one anyway. So they read enough to form their own opinion on it.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 21st, 2015, 9:59pm; Reply: 76

Quoted from DustinBowcot


That's not what the rumours say.


I should know...I started them... :P
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 21st, 2015, 11:43pm; Reply: 77

Quoted from mmmarnie
I think it's safe to say if they couldn't make it past page 1, or 3 or whatever, they wouldn't have voted for that one anyway. So they read enough to form their own opinion on it.


Exactly.  Well put, Marnie.

And this is actually the key here...

We have peeps saying they're going to only read 10-15 scripts but they're going to give indepth analysis...and then...well...look at most of the feedback and you tell me how indepth it is.

The majority of reviews state the exact same thing over and over - decent writing, decnet formatting, a few errors here and there, but it's an OWC, so who cares?

Does this actually help anyone?  Seriously...does it?  Does it help when the majority say it's "pretty well written", when in reality, that's so far from the truth?  Should writers think they're writing well, when they're really not?  If they do, what are they going to do? They're going to keep writing the same way and expect peeps to love what they're doing.  Really?

Obviously, I don't think so, and I'll continue to give feedback that's based on exactly what I read.  And if I stop on the 2nd or 3rd passage because literally everything that preceded it was incorrect, and I give the exact reasons why...is that bad or meaningless feedback?  If I read through Page 1...2...4...or the whole damn thing, and I state exactly what's wrong...or exaclty what I think is wrong, does that make me a "bad reviewer"?  

No...actually, it's potentially the best feedback you'll ever get and if you take that to heart, and see the error of your ways, with alot of work and effort, you're going to be a much better writer, and there's really no way around that.

And with that being said...

I give you my TOP 3 ENTRIES in this OWC...

...and, these are in order of #1, 2, and 3...

1)  Bitch's Revenge - IMO, easily the standout effort here, by quite a margin.

2)  A Change of Heart - Well written, with great dialogue, good humor, and a nice twist on the UL.

3)  Final Piece - A great example of less being more, with simple, laid back, assured writing that packs a punch and takes no prisoners.  

Posted by: nawazm11, February 22nd, 2015, 12:32am; Reply: 78

Quoted from mmmarnie


I think it's safe to say if they couldn't make it past page 1, or 3 or whatever, they wouldn't have voted for that one anyway. So they read enough to form their own opinion on it.


That's fine and valid, but I was making a point that it feels wrong to say "I've read every entry" or "Only people who've read every entry should vote" when they've read two paragraphs of one script and dismissed it. That's far from reading every entry, and their vote is barely any different to somebody who has read half the entries in full. It takes a minute to write a comment about how bad the first paragraph is and doing it 20 times doesn't mean you've read every entry, and it definitely does not mean that nobody else should vote since they didn't do the same thing. Again, not picking out particular people but that just doesn't sit right with me.
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 22nd, 2015, 3:33am; Reply: 79
I read as far as I can, and will look over (what I consider to be) bad writing. I have dodged out early with one or two entries but I've gotten a lot further than one or two paragraphs. I've given what I consider a more than fair chance. I think both stories were of the absurd type. I also skip-read some, particularly the dialogue... which actually helps me get through the story.
Posted by: khamanna, February 22nd, 2015, 11:34am; Reply: 80
I really don't even need this many reads on mine. I already have enough reviews to help me with the rewrite.

I read a little more than a third. Some I started and haven't finished (not because they are bad - I may do it for various reasons) but I don't comment on something I didn't finish.  
Posted by: eldave1, February 22nd, 2015, 12:20pm; Reply: 81
I would add this as a matter of framework. The extent and depth of reviews is dependent on the expertise and the values of the reviewer.

In terms of expertise - there are objective items (typos, punctuation errors, etc.) that even as a rookie in this field I am comfortable commenting on - so I will comment when I see them. There are other objective areas (Slugs, Orphans, Intercuts, etc.) that I will not generally comment on because I really don't know what I'm talking about in the first place (i.e., still learning) and, as such, I am fairly uncomfortable in providing feedback in those areas. I am guessing that I am not completely alone on this.

In terms of values - I will speculate that, even among the experts, there are differing opinions on the weight that some of these objective criteria carry over the more subjective areas (e.g., dialogue, conflict, theme, etc.). In other words, an expert in this area may feel that it is appropriate to focus their critique in the more subjective areas (story, dialogue, etc.) than on the mechanics of screenwriting. This can result in shorter reviews. If someone subjectively feels that the premise of a story is tired or unoriginal - what more than stating that does the reviewer need to say in order to constitute an acceptable review?

Anyway, I have read all the scripts in their entirety. That being said, it doesn't violate my sensibilities that someone would read 3 pages of a script and want to bail out. That is somewhat a review in and of itself - i.e., I read one third of your script and there wasn't enough there to entice me to go on.

Anyway - my ramblings for the morning.

      
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 22nd, 2015, 1:30pm; Reply: 82

Quoted from Stumpzian


I have a different opinion. You should vote only if you've read them all.

I defer to Don, though.


Ideally , yes. I don't think I have ever not read all the scripts in an OWC if I took part.

BUT... I do understand that life can get in the way and that within reason some find it hard to get to all scripts in the time allowed. And they never have been asked to do so.

Better they read some, than none at all.

One OWC I think we have 45+ scripts, that adds up.

If Don does his normal pass, consider, recommend method, then any votes will add to the averages, so even if you haven't read them all, you would still give the vote more credibility by voting on those you have read.

I would also like the voting to include a 'this is my script' button to enforce we only vote on others. Best be clear.

This OWC was an interesting bunch. In some ways the criteria appeared good for ideas, in other ways it was limiting.

I can think of 2/3 scripts that have sound concepts but weren't the best delivered. I will probably vote for them higher than others as IMO the OWC is more about promising concepts, than polished work.

Got a couple more to do, I think.
Posted by: bert, February 22nd, 2015, 2:40pm; Reply: 83
Reading all of the scripts has never been a requirement for anyone.  That's a huge ask.

But if you submit and then read ZERO scripts, you are a scumbag leech.  No excuses.

If you follow the boards closely enough to be aware of the contest and submit a script correctly, then you are also aware of the honor system at play -- and have elected to ignore it.

If I find I have posted a review on a "zero reader", I go back and delete my review.  (Unless I totally slammed the script, of course :), then I might leave it) I encourage others to do the same.

Don is more forgiving of those folks, but I would flat-out disallow them from future OWCs -- one of those rare instances where he and I agree to disagree.
Posted by: PrussianMosby, February 22nd, 2015, 5:17pm; Reply: 84
Yes, I agree with Reef. Don wants all participants to vote. You can choose "haven't read" if that's the case. Since I believe he doesn't want to disqualify any user for not commenting on all of them (which I think is right), it's the best choice to vote even if you've read 5, 10 or 20 scripts only. It builds a better average than staying away without knowing if some won't.

Trusting in an unwritten law, and stay away, is the other pattern though.

But, wouldn't those lazy ones be selfish again and vote because they read three scripts, and then give one of them a recommend?

The average is better if everyone votes imo.

Since Don gives us the "haven't read"- box, I think everyone who took part and read should consider or recommend those she/he liked.


On another note, I disagree with some who stated this challenge lacks in quality. It's the opposite imo. It's very positive that the lower third of the scripts is much better than it was usually imo. The gap narrowed a lot here for my taste.


@ Well done mods and hosts, and Don of course. Thanks for your commitment
Posted by: ChrisBodily, February 23rd, 2015, 9:25pm; Reply: 85
It's been a little crazy in my neck of the woods, so I decided to stop and vote for what I did get to read. Just in case life keeps throwing me a wrench.

I hope to eventually read/review the scripts I missed. For me, most of the entries I read were surprisingly good, but a few fell flat.

I'm glad not everything was horror (And I love horror!) or one genre, so that opened up the possibilities. This was good for me because I had just written an urban legend-based horror feature script, and so I decided to do a 180.

Good luck to everybody. :)
Posted by: mmmarnie, February 24th, 2015, 8:57am; Reply: 86
My 3 faves were:

Roadside Attraction (fave)
Change of Heart
Final Piece

I tried to guess who wrote what but I have no freakin clue.
Posted by: khamanna, February 24th, 2015, 11:22am; Reply: 87
My picks are:

Apple (absolutely the best)
A Change of Heart
Doctor Shopping

I read only 13. And the 13th was after I submitted my vote otherwise it would be another recommend.

Really great job this OWC.
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 24th, 2015, 12:23pm; Reply: 88
Don't remember how many I've read. Not many. Maybe six or seven. A couple I elected not to comment on, but the others I felt were really good for OWCs scripts. They can be a bit of a mess sometimes.
Posted by: Ryan1, February 24th, 2015, 4:23pm; Reply: 89
This was an interesting(and quite a tough) challenge.  It's hard to improve on stories that are already complete, and have stood the test of time.  That being said, there were a few standouts for me:

The twistiest:  Captain Hook
The funniest:  Bunny Man Untold
Best concept:  Tie between Strangers Come a Knockin' Round Midnight and The Wandering Bus
Flat out weirdest: Phantom Barber
Best use of Richard Gere: Arthur the Legend
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2015, 2:46am; Reply: 90
Ok, I stupidly forgot - I didn't vote for several that I read. Like Captain Hook would get at least a consider from me.
I feel like I have to redo the votes. I mean all the recommends stay - it's just several more that I read and forgot about and didn't mark them at all.

Apparently I read more than I thought - next time I'll keep close count.

Is there a way to redo the votes, anyone?
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, February 25th, 2015, 6:03am; Reply: 91
Not as far as I know, Khamanna.
Posted by: khamanna, February 25th, 2015, 6:19am; Reply: 92

Quoted from Mr. Blonde
Not as far as I know, Khamanna.


Well, no big deal, I guess. It's not a competition anyway.
Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2015, 9:30am; Reply: 93
I thought there were 31 entries.
Only showing 30.
Did one get ditched or is my memory corrupt?
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 25th, 2015, 9:38am; Reply: 94

Quoted from RayW
I thought there were 31 entries.
Only showing 30.
Did one get ditched or is my memory corrupt?


Quoted from Don

One dropped out and one person slipped a second script in.

Posted by: RayW, February 25th, 2015, 9:49am; Reply: 95
Hmm.
People.


Thanks, Pia.
Posted by: realxwriter, February 26th, 2015, 11:56am; Reply: 96
I'm sorry admins, but can you tell me the time deadline for the votes. 00:00 EST Friday? I had no life a month ago, but when the OWC came, everything jumped me at once. :(
Posted by: irish eyes, February 26th, 2015, 12:43pm; Reply: 97
On the email Don requests"try to get your votes in by Friday"
Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2015, 4:06pm; Reply: 98
All done reading.

About to mass-post, but if you just can't wait for yours:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZravHpxn4E8VjuonrZkv4sDnrOIpUHzvrgLN-cEt8l4/edit?usp=sharing

There are a lot of good stories here.
My heart goes out to the few that delivered all the deliverables but still had no "magic sauce."  :(

And WTH is up with so many title pages being buggered up with bold text, underlined text (almost forgivable), non-capped, funky font, or outsized point size?!!
Gooooooood Lorrrrrrrd.

12 point courier.
Plain.
ALL CAPS title.
Copyright notice.
Done.

Simple. Simple. Simple.
Yet...

Bah!

Maybe we should start an urban legend about a SS OWC where all the title pages correctly follow a few simple rules! Ha!
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 26th, 2015, 4:35pm; Reply: 99

Quoted from RayW
All done reading.

About to mass-post, but if you just can't wait for yours:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZravHpxn4E8VjuonrZkv4sDnrOIpUHzvrgLN-cEt8l4/edit?usp=sharing

There are a lot of good stories here.
My heart goes out to the few that delivered all the deliverables but still had no "magic sauce."  :(

And WTH is up with so many title pages being buggered up with bold text, underlined text (almost forgivable), non-capped, funky font, or outsized point size?!!
Gooooooood Lorrrrrrrd.

12 point courier.
Plain.
ALL CAPS title.
Copyright notice.
Done.

Simple. Simple. Simple.
Yet...

Bah!

Maybe we should start an urban legend about a SS OWC where all the title pages correctly follow a few simple rules! Ha!


Now we know how to wind up Ray  :D

I wondered how many would have an issue over font size...

Story first, hey??

Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2015, 4:36pm; Reply: 100
;D
Posted by: bert, February 26th, 2015, 4:43pm; Reply: 101
I always smile when somebody manages to post in the middle of Ray’s posting orgy.

Way to go, Iancou!
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 26th, 2015, 5:36pm; Reply: 102
Ray, if you read a lot of pro scripts and even big competition winners, you'll see that many writers use bold and weird fonts on the cover page. I would too, I just haven't figured out how yet.  ;D
Posted by: RayW, February 26th, 2015, 5:36pm; Reply: 103
Posting bukake, thank you very much.  ;)



(I think I just vurped, BTW.)



Pia,
Understood.
To me it's still equivalent to a PBJ fail.


"Dude? Seriously?
How difficult can it be?"
Posted by: Don, February 26th, 2015, 8:30pm; Reply: 104

Quoted from khamanna
Ok, I stupidly forgot - I didn't vote for several that I read. Like Captain Hook would get at least a consider from me.
I feel like I have to redo the votes. I mean all the recommends stay - it's just several more that I read and forgot about and didn't mark them at all.

Apparently I read more than I thought - next time I'll keep close count.

Is there a way to redo the votes, anyone?


Yes, you can revote. I use the latest ballot received.

Don
Posted by: Don, February 26th, 2015, 8:32pm; Reply: 105

Quoted from realxwriter
I'm sorry admins, but can you tell me the time deadline for the votes. 00:00 EST Friday? I had no life a month ago, but when the OWC came, everything jumped me at once. :(


Midnight Friday 27th midnight your time . Nlt midnight est.

Don
Posted by: ChrisBodily, February 26th, 2015, 11:24pm; Reply: 106

Quoted Text
Yes, you can revote. I use the latest ballot received.

Don


Thanks, Don.  :) I managed to squeeze in a few more reads before the deadline and revote.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, February 27th, 2015, 12:11am; Reply: 107
I don't go higher than 14pt courier on the title, as it is generally a non issue.
Everything else is 12 pt.

Ray, I loved your comments on my entry by the way, considering of what I was aiming for.
Posted by: RayW, February 27th, 2015, 7:10am; Reply: 108
DJ,
Around here "loved" could mean what it means (good) or means a wild shot (eh, not so good.)
Hope I shot near the marks you were looking for. ;)
Posted by: realxwriter, February 28th, 2015, 8:03am; Reply: 109
Done and done. Some people chose to review the shorter ones first. Some chose to review only the short ones. None of it was fair, in my opinion. I always reviewed the one with less reviews. If everyone did the same, all scripts could ended up with an equal number of reviews. And no I'm sure it wasn't the loglines. The pattern of the short ones being reviewed more is very clear, unless I'm seeing things. :p

Well done everyone.
Posted by: mmmarnie, February 28th, 2015, 9:16am; Reply: 110

Quoted from realxwriter
None of it was fair, in my opinion.


And some chose to finish reviewing after the voting deadline...



Posted by: Don, February 28th, 2015, 9:46am; Reply: 111

Quoted from mmmarnie


And some chose to finish reviewing after the voting deadline...





That is ok in my opinion. I know some folks won't review until after the names are revealed,

I am cool wi that, too.  This is why I run a challenge, rather than a contest.

Don
Posted by: Grandma Bear, February 28th, 2015, 10:09am; Reply: 112

Quoted from realxwriter
Some people chose to review the shorter ones first. Some chose to review only the short ones. None of it was fair, in my opinion.

Some of us read a few even though we didn't enter.  :)

I for one usually look at the list and pick the ones with the fewest reads.
Posted by: RayW, February 28th, 2015, 10:21am; Reply: 113
I reviewed them all and will let the taxman sort them out.  :P

You get what you pay for, genrally speaking.

Odds are everyone who's been at this awhile heard what they've heard before, or didn't hear what they wanted to not hear.
Whether each submission received fifteen or twenty reviews doesn't really matter a whole lot.
Fifteen+ reviews on four or five OWCs = 60+ of much of the same sort of comments after a while.
Seriously, what more are you gonna get out of 80 or 100 reviews?
Not much.

Your work will consistantly get praised for some things, like construct or dialog, and will consistantly get hit for other things, like character development or format.
Eh... try to fix what you're sick of peeps b!tchin' about.
But some people you can't make happy, so just keep entering OWCs to see how much less your writing sucks this time than last.

FWIW, mine consistently confuse readers at some details but they like the overall story. Whatevs. You gonna pony up some cash to produce it? No? Then it doesn'ty really matter then, does it?
Posted by: eldave1, February 28th, 2015, 11:49am; Reply: 114
I reviewed and rated them all for one simple reason: I had time available. To me, the concept of "fairness" is somewhat irrelevant because, at least in my view, this was more of a writing exercise than it was a writing contest.  So the measure of value is - did I learn anything from the exercise? For me, the answer is a resounding yes - not only from the scripts themselves but from the reviews of the scripts. All in all - a fun way to improve the craft.



Posted by: realxwriter, February 28th, 2015, 11:55am; Reply: 115
I didn't "choose" to review some scripts after the deadline. The admin said "Your midnight," my midnight and EST are different so when I saw that there is only 10 minutes before "my midnight," I played it safe and posted the votes of what I read so far, which they were only 8 scripts shy of the 29.

Long story short, I tried to read as much as I could before the deadline but I just ran out of time. I slept after that, and the moment I finished my other stuff in the morning I reviewed the rest.

Posted by: realxwriter, February 28th, 2015, 11:59am; Reply: 116

Quoted from RayW

Seriously, what more are you gonna get out of 80 or 100 reviews?
Not much.

I'd like to get as much reviews as I can. Every extra one matters to me. But that's just me I guess.

Posted by: mmmarnie, February 28th, 2015, 12:22pm; Reply: 117

Quoted from realxwriter
I didn't "choose" to review some scripts after the deadline. The admin said "Your midnight," my midnight and EST are different so when I saw that there is only 10 minutes before "my midnight," I played it safe and posted the votes of what I read so far, which they were only 8 scripts shy of the 29.

Long story short, I tried to read as much as I could before the deadline but I just ran out of time. I slept after that, and the moment I finished my other stuff in the morning I reviewed the rest.



No need to explain. I just found it odd you said "none of it was fair", even saying some people only read the short ones, when you yourself waited till after the deadline to complete your reviews.  The only thing I ever find unfair is the people who enter and don't review at all. I don't even know if I'd categorize that as unfair. The word I'd use for that would be bleeped out.  :P  ;)

Posted by: realxwriter, February 28th, 2015, 1:37pm; Reply: 118

Quoted from mmmarnie


No need to explain.



I beg to differ. My explanation is needed because you accused me of leaving them after deadline on purpose, which I didn't. Explanation never hurt anyway.
Posted by: Ryan1, February 28th, 2015, 2:47pm; Reply: 119
So, the writers' names are revealed today, right?
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, February 28th, 2015, 3:01pm; Reply: 120

Quoted from Ryan1
So, the writers' names are revealed today, right?


I think so, if Don has the time. I could have done with using a fake name  ::)

Must take some adding up.

But, despite a below par script, it's been good be here and taking part.

Thanks to those who read, but didn't enter.

And to those who didn't bother - you can @£&? yourself  :o
Posted by: Don, February 28th, 2015, 4:03pm; Reply: 121
Writer's names revealed.  Writer's choice will be announced later.

Don
Posted by: RayW, February 28th, 2015, 4:16pm; Reply: 122
Interesting.

Posted by: RayW, February 28th, 2015, 4:19pm; Reply: 123
Coop got in two, eh?
Bully for him! :D


Congrats Janet, I enjoyed your very entertaining and produceable story. One recommend.
Congrats Anthony, I simply enjoyed reading your screenplay. One recommend
Congrats Ryan, although I guessed wrong which one you wrote I still enjoyed your very entertaining and produceable story as well. One recommend
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), February 28th, 2015, 4:33pm; Reply: 124
Well done, eldave. The most inventive and well constructed story of this OWC in my opinion.
Posted by: wonkavite (Guest), February 28th, 2015, 4:38pm; Reply: 125
Thanks to all for the reads and comments.  For my part, I especially loved Teeth, Change of Heart, Roadside Attraction, Final Piece, 4.0 and Turn Me On Dead Man... not necessarily in that order.  :P

When's the voting go up?
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 28th, 2015, 6:30pm; Reply: 126
Thanks to all for the reads and comments, my new version is much tighter and improved, my first OWC so was an interesting exxpereience all round.

I went a little further afield for my UL - http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Tomino%27s_Hell/JA

I'll post it on my thread too.

Look forward to the next OWC!

Anthony
Posted by: Ryan1, February 28th, 2015, 6:53pm; Reply: 127
Here's the UL that I based The Final Piece on:  http://urbanlegendsonline.com/jigsaw-mystery/
Posted by: irish eyes, February 28th, 2015, 7:47pm; Reply: 128
I would like to thank all the wonderful reviews on ARTHUR... This was my favorite:


Quoted from Stumpzian
This kind of stuff degrades the OWC.


I must check out the masterpiece' Hagridden'

My script was so good it even got a mention on another script:


Quoted from Chrisbodily on Change of Heart
Sad to say, I probably liked Arthur the Legend more than this, and I hated that one.


Sad to say, I actually liked Change of Heart better than Arthur ;D

As for those who were content on the 12 point courier, I will send a letter to those damn Write brothers for Movie magic screenwriter 6... That's my excuse anyway ;D


Here is the list of UL's from Arthur

Richard Gere  http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/celebrities/a/richard_gere.htm
Old man taking the wrong car http://urbanlegendsonline.com/get-out-of-the-car/
Masturbating leads to hairy palms http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hairy+Palms
Bigfoot
Clown statue in the corner http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/horrors/a/clown_statue.htm
Slender man http://urbanlegendsonline.com/the-slender-man/
Bloody Mary http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Bloody_Mary_%28urban_legend%29
The Hook Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hook
Frozen Alaskan Tree Frog http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/frozenfrog.asp
Scrotum self repair http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blself-repair.htm

;D;D;D;D so there you have it.

I would like to say that I do enjoy the different takes and different ideas peeps come up with and everyone is entitled to their opinions. But on this OWC I noticed some of the nastiest reviews in the 5 years I've been on here. Nobody on here is making millions selling screenplays, all of us would like to be there and what makes this site great is helping each other. Just understand, especially those with attitudes that this is a one week challenge and even that, it's a lot less for parents working full time jobs and don't have access to a computer 24/7.

Thanks to Don and Sean for a great job
Until the next one I degrade ;D

p.s. 5 comedies wrote... everyone called a pisser by somebody ;D


Posted by: eldave1, March 1st, 2015, 12:07am; Reply: 129

Quoted from DustinBowcot
Well done, eldave. The most inventive and well constructed story of this OWC in my opinion.


Thanks Dustin - much appreciated
Posted by: khamanna, March 1st, 2015, 12:23am; Reply: 130
Wow, people, you can disquise really well. I would never be able to make a correct guess for this OWC. You wrote the strangest stuff - so out of character.

Mine was after this:
http://www.paranormalhaze.com/the-5-scariest-urban-legends/

(scroll down to Humans Can Lick Too).
I have some rewrite ideas already and it will be a page one rewrite - complete redo. Thanks for all the input.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, March 1st, 2015, 1:11am; Reply: 131
Carmen Winstead, of course.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/winstead.asp

I basically did bg research, deconstructed it and "grounded it" i.e. taking out the supernatural. I wanted to try something slightly different than horror and/or go down slight retreads of my previous work, such as Mallory's Friend or Hath No Fury.
But I was very close to doing Alligators in the sewers and/or Knocked up teens with octopus babies...

.
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 2:54am; Reply: 132
I didn't base mine on a current UL. I wrote a new one concerning society's reliance on prescription drugs.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, March 1st, 2015, 2:59am; Reply: 133

Quoted from irish eyes
I would like to thank all the wonderful reviews on ARTHUR... This was my favorite:



I must check out the masterpiece' Hagridden'

My script was so good it even got a mention on another script:



Sad to say, I actually liked Change of Heart better than Arthur ;D

As for those who were content on the 12 point courier, I will send a letter to those damn Write brothers for Movie magic screenwriter 6... That's my excuse anyway ;D


Here is the list of UL's from Arthur

Richard Gere  http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/celebrities/a/richard_gere.htm
Old man taking the wrong car http://urbanlegendsonline.com/get-out-of-the-car/
Masturbating leads to hairy palms http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hairy+Palms
Bigfoot
Clown statue in the corner http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/horrors/a/clown_statue.htm
Slender man http://urbanlegendsonline.com/the-slender-man/
Bloody Mary http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Bloody_Mary_%28urban_legend%29
The Hook Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hook
Frozen Alaskan Tree Frog http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/frozenfrog.asp
Scrotum self repair http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blself-repair.htm

;D;D;D;D so there you have it.

I would like to say that I do enjoy the different takes and different ideas peeps come up with and everyone is entitled to their opinions. But on this OWC I noticed some of the nastiest reviews in the 5 years I've been on here. Nobody on here is making millions selling screenplays, all of us would like to be there and what makes this site great is helping each other. Just understand, especially those with attitudes that this is a one week challenge and even that, it's a lot less for parents working full time jobs and don't have access to a computer 24/7.

Thanks to Don and Sean for a great job
Until the next one I degrade ;

p.s. 5 comedies wrote... everyone called a pisser by somebody ;D




Fair points Mark.

I have written two OWC's with comedy in them....never again. Comedy can work here, but it has to be a type that most understand. Slapstick etc doesn't normally appeal.

If it's any comfort I was asked whether this was my first OWC, and told that my script lacked a sub plot - not had that one thrown at me before for a one week short script challenge  ;D
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 4:00am; Reply: 134
Not mentioning any names, but, yet again, Jeff didn't enter... and, yet again, he's the angriest reviewer.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, March 1st, 2015, 4:23am; Reply: 135
Re - urban legends - My script was based on the story that Lucille Bell picked up spy radio waves in her teeth.

Link is;

http://altereddimensions.net/2014/lucille-ball-picks-up-morse-code-radio-through-dental-work-fillings

That seemed close enough for this challenge.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, March 1st, 2015, 4:26am; Reply: 136

Quoted from DustinBowcot
Not mentioning any names, but, yet again, Jeff didn't enter... and, yet again, he's the angriest reviewer.


I ran him close this time.

Well..not so much angry, but pretty miserable. I stopped reviewing because I was boring myself.
Posted by: LC, March 1st, 2015, 4:55am; Reply: 137

Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
I ran him close this time. Well..not so much angry, but pretty miserable. I stopped reviewing because I was boring myself.

I noticed that, Mr Grumpy. Least you were economical about it, I'll give you that.  ;D

I think this challenge was actually quite hard - I didn't even get an entry in - trying too hard to be inventive, so well done to those who played.
Posted by: stevie, March 1st, 2015, 5:16am; Reply: 138
Yeah true Lib. That's why I went with the comedy angle - it was easier to come up with a parody of the UL as opposed to creating a new look at one.
Posted by: Kip, March 1st, 2015, 5:21am; Reply: 139
I thought this challenge was a tough one but thought I'd give it a whirl anyway. I don't write much at all, in fact this was only the third script I've written, so was relatively happy with it and some of the feedback.

There were some really good entries in this, so well done on a good job.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, March 1st, 2015, 5:26am; Reply: 140
I think Jeff may have given up on writing and just taken up full time trolling ;-)
Posted by: wonkavite (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 6:49am; Reply: 141

Quoted from Reef Dreamer

If it's any comfort I was asked whether this was my first OWC, and told that my script lacked a sub plot - not had that one thrown at me before for a one week short script challenge  ;D


Frankly Reef - Teeth was in my top five or so.  So there.

As for my UL for Strangers.  Kinda obvious...  :)
Posted by: StevenHarvey (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 9:08am; Reply: 142
Pleased to be a part of the OWC. For the first time round, quite happy and agree with the feedback I've gotten. As for the UL used in Happy Anniversary I went with, http://www.snopes.com/horrors/techno/microwavedpet.asp

Change of Heart was far and away my number one.
Posted by: Stumpzian, March 1st, 2015, 9:34am; Reply: 143

Quoted from irish eyes


Until the next one I degrade ;D



Mark,

I apologize for using the word degrade. It was an overstatement. I wouldn't like it, either.

Henry

Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 9:47am; Reply: 144

Quoted from AnthonyCawood
I think Jeff may have given up on writing and just taken up full time trolling ;-)



You never know, Anthony.  You just never know.

If my feedback is trolling, please disregard, and accept all the "other" feedback as gospel.  "Decent writing."  "Well done."  "Not too bad."

If anyone disagrees with my feedback and wants clarification, PM me, or just call me right out on your script.
Posted by: mmmarnie, March 1st, 2015, 10:07am; Reply: 145
I seem to know how to turn Jeff on.  ;D  :o   ;D
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 10:11am; Reply: 146

Quoted from mmmarnie
I seem to know how to turn Jeff on.  ;D  :o   ;D


LOL...

You did well here, Marnie.  Very impressive and the easy winner, in my book.

Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 10:22am; Reply: 147

Quoted from mmmarnie
I seem to know how to turn Jeff on.  ;D  :o   ;D


Do you show him pictures of men in tight denim shorts?
Posted by: Mr. Blonde, March 1st, 2015, 10:29am; Reply: 148
Even though the challenge is over, don't go spamming this thread with unnecessary posts.
Posted by: Stumpzian, March 1st, 2015, 10:47am; Reply: 149
Jeff had a couple of WTF moments over two technical things in "Hagridden."

1. Page numbering.
I use Celtex on an ipad Mini, and it does not let you set up a title page. I get around this by moving the first page to the second-page position, which leaves the first page blank for a title page. As a result, the title page is numbered as Page One.

2. Four blank pages at the end.
I had no idea they were there -- or how they got there. The script was never any longer than it is. Someone commented that those four blank pages were the best part of my script.

Thanks to all who made an effort to see what was going on in "Hagridden." I may restore a line or two to make certain elements clearer.

Henry

Posted by: PrussianMosby, March 1st, 2015, 12:51pm; Reply: 150
I gave no recommend this time. Maybe I should've given one to my favorite script, the one with Brock freaking Mc Lean. Still I gave 7 considers. With some further good scripts I made a hard cut because they were a bit below the other ones level and I tried to decide for those seven in case of being better.

While it's still just a challenge, do recommends count as a single block, so that considers only count when it's a tie? Or is it like consider 1 point, recommend 2, something like that... not so important anyway
Posted by: irish eyes, March 1st, 2015, 1:10pm; Reply: 151

Quoted from Henry
I apologize for using the word degrade. It was an overstatement. I wouldn't like it, either


Thanks Henry, I appreciate that :)

Mark
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, March 1st, 2015, 2:56pm; Reply: 152
Well done Ryan.

Also a big shout out to Marnie, Eldave and Eric.

All good efforts despite the challenges.

My favorite happened to be Janet's

Thanks Don
Posted by: Ryan1, March 1st, 2015, 3:45pm; Reply: 153
Thanks to everyone who read Final Piece.  And congrats to Marnie, eldave and Eric.  As owc challenges go, this was a tough one.  So, a big thanks to Don and Blonde for running a tight ship.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, March 1st, 2015, 3:57pm; Reply: 154
Congrats Ryan, well done... and to all the other entrants too - great effort all round!
Posted by: irish eyes, March 1st, 2015, 4:01pm; Reply: 155
Well done Ryan and to all that entered. ..
A big shout out to Stevie for the "bunny man untold"... very funny and a great script... nearly as good as Arthur ;D
Posted by: stevie, March 1st, 2015, 4:08pm; Reply: 156
Obviously you got the bribe Mark lol. And good win over Shitty too!

Great stuff by my buddy Ryan!   If I missed a review let me know and I will read it guys
Posted by: wonkavite (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 4:15pm; Reply: 157
Congratulations to all!  Good to see some of my favorites made the top slot, and runner's up!!  :)  Despite what *some* have claimed, I think this particular OWC resulted in quite a few quality scripts...  :)))
Posted by: Stumpzian, March 1st, 2015, 4:27pm; Reply: 158
A round of applause for Ryan

and

hats off to Marnie, Dave , and Eric.

Henry
Posted by: EWall433, March 1st, 2015, 4:38pm; Reply: 159
Congrats to Ryan, Marnie, and Dave! And of course to Don and Mr. Blonde for hosting. There were a lot of good scripts and aside for a few standouts, it was hard picking favorites.

And for the record, I did read every script and cast a vote on all but my own, but as the reviews stack up and the deadline closes in it becomes harder to come up with anything unique to add. If anyone I didn’t post on is still looking for more feedback, just PM me and I’ll put my thoughts into word and sentence format.
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 6:18pm; Reply: 160
Well, looks like the order of my top 3 didn't quite work out, but as is usually the case, I did nail the top 3.

Or maybe I should just thank the voters for getting it right for a change.  Good job everyone!!!

Will be interesting to see if the writers that entered who aren't the usual suspects will just completely disappear now that all is revealed.  Hopefully, that won't be the case.  We'll see...
Posted by: StevenHarvey (Guest), March 1st, 2015, 6:40pm; Reply: 161
Congrats Ryan. Not in the same order but those were my Top 4 also. Fun OWC, looking forward to the next one.
Posted by: eldave1, March 1st, 2015, 7:59pm; Reply: 162
Congrats Ryan, Eric, Marnie - this was a fun exercise.
Posted by: CoopBazinga, March 2nd, 2015, 12:35am; Reply: 163
Congrats to Ryan, Eric, Marnie and David. Excellent work because this wasn’t an easy challenge at all IMO. It’s very hard to find a new spin on a well known story – my hat off to everyone who threw in a script.

Also a big shout out to Don and Sean for organizing – top stuff.
Posted by: stevie, March 2nd, 2015, 12:40am; Reply: 164
Looks like great minds think alike Coop. We both had a char named Lucas in our Bunny man scripts.

The Villa need a Bunny Man at the moment to scare the shit of our opponents lol
Posted by: CoopBazinga, March 2nd, 2015, 12:55am; Reply: 165

Quoted from stevie
Looks like great minds think alike Coop. We both had a char named Lucas in our Bunny man scripts.

The Villa need a Bunny Man at the moment to scare the shit of our opponents lol


;D Yes, the Villains definitely could do with a monster bunny up front right about now -- they've forgotten how to bloody score!

And it's great that you picked up on Brock McLean -- I wondered if you'd recognize the name. ;)
Posted by: stevie, March 2nd, 2015, 2:12am; Reply: 166

Quoted from CoopBazinga


;D Yes, the Villains definitely could do with a monster bunny up front right about now -- they've forgotten how to bloody score!

And it's great that you picked up on Brock McLean -- I wondered if you'd recognize the name. ;)


Ah! I thought it was just a coincidence lol.  He's an average player, a dead set plodder.
Posted by: khamanna, March 2nd, 2015, 2:39am; Reply: 167
Congrats to the top 4!

Marnie, I would have never guessed The Bitches Revenge was yours. Never ever. Who would? I'm sure that the answer is no one.

Really nice job, everyone. I read 16 and recommended 4. I don't know what I would do if I read all. My favorite was Apple. I think it'll get picked up someday if the writer puts in in Shorts section.

By the way these OWC scripts tend to get lost if they are not in the shorts section, right? Maybe we should submit them to "Shorts" section after we rewrite?
Posted by: realxwriter, March 2nd, 2015, 4:03am; Reply: 168
It's been a pleasure participating in OWC. Thank you all for the feedback. And thanks for all the scripts. I learned a lot just reading them.

Before I came to SimplyScript, I heard that reviews here could be harsh. Now I know it's true. Not that I got any of those for my script this time. I personally don't mind them being harsh or soft. Honesty is all that matters to me. However I need to say this once.

There is a difference between being brutally honest, and being just brutal. The former is helpful. The later, even though still helpful, is hurtful. Sometimes we need to mind people feelings when delivering the truth, because delivering it is the point, not offending them. It's not about twisting it, it's about the packaging.

On the other hand, writers, don't take it personally.  No one out there will spend time and effort to read your script then write you notes just to offend you or make you lose confidence. They all mean to help. They're giving you their honest reaction and thoughts on what you wrote. Take them to your mind, sort them out however you see fit. Just never take them to heart. You're here to improve not to get hugs and kisses.

Coop, your review made me laugh out loud. The humor in your criticism was amazing. You remind me of YouTube CinemaSins or HISHE humor.

"The final piece"  deserved the praise, but to me, the best script was "change of heart." Congratulation to all of you for adding a new script to your personal stash.
Posted by: Kip, March 2nd, 2015, 6:41am; Reply: 169
When I posted my first script on here, I had no idea what to expect. When I looked at the feedback on it from some, it was given a big thumbs down and I felt crushed.

BUT, in hindsight, the feedback was spot on and I learnt a lot from it. Although the feedback on my effort in this OWC was a mixed bag, I was pleased to see that my writing and punctuation had improved, even if my actual story hadn't. Take the feedback as it's intended - one person's opinion.

Well done to the winners and runners up. I think all were pretty much the right choices.
Posted by: nawazm11, March 2nd, 2015, 6:57am; Reply: 170
Thanks Don and Sean for organizing, and great job to the top four. Apologies to the folks who thought my feedback was harsh (or entirely wrong), always a few instances. I actually seem to have forgot to submit my vote, but it was roughly the same as everybody else, except with a few other entries like Bill's one which I quite liked.
Posted by: eldave1, March 2nd, 2015, 1:55pm; Reply: 171

Quoted from realxwriter

There is a difference between being brutally honest, and being just brutal. The former is helpful. The later, even though still helpful, is hurtful. Sometimes we need to mind people feelings when delivering the truth, because delivering it is the point, not offending them. It's not about twisting it, it's about the packaging.


I agree with this.  If there is more than one way to get the point across, then take the gentler path. It's just the better way to do it. That being said, I've come to realize that brutal feedback is still feedback and that if someone is going to take the time to read what I wrote, then they have absolute license to provide the feedback in the manner they choose.  
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 3rd, 2015, 3:49am; Reply: 172
Thanks to all involved in the creation of these challenges. If not for them, I'd never write shorts. I never get ideas for shorts unless I'm given some parameters to work with and 'challenged'.

Shorts are good because they can act as writing samples, although I'm not sure they can best the first ten of an actual feature (for encouraging people to want to read more of your work), they do serve a purpose. They can also get made, gaining contacts and credibility.

Money sinks, but.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, March 3rd, 2015, 1:31pm; Reply: 173

Quoted from khamanna


By the way these OWC scripts tend to get lost if they are not in the shorts section, right? Maybe we should submit them to "Shorts" section after we rewrite?


I think it could be the other way around.
Posted by: RayW, March 3rd, 2015, 3:19pm; Reply: 174
Big CONGRATULATIONS! to Ryan!



Congrats to the runners-ups!



And a round of applause to all you "also rans!"
Here's a ribbon for you! Woot!









Alright... back to what I was doing before.

Posted by: eldave1, March 3rd, 2015, 6:47pm; Reply: 175
This was great
Posted by: Stumpzian, March 3rd, 2015, 6:59pm; Reply: 176
I assume that is an actual picture of Ray.

Right?
Posted by: LC, March 3rd, 2015, 7:09pm; Reply: 177
That's how I always pictured him.  ;D
Posted by: mmmarnie, March 3rd, 2015, 7:16pm; Reply: 178
Sort of looks like a less scruffy Ron Jeremy.
Posted by: stevie, March 3rd, 2015, 8:34pm; Reply: 179

Quoted from mmmarnie
Sort of looks like a less scruffy Ron Jeremy.


And with a smaller tackle

Posted by: Mr. Blonde, March 3rd, 2015, 9:33pm; Reply: 180
Seriously, guys? I expected Ray to be of the "Fu Manchu" variety...
Posted by: RayW, March 4th, 2015, 12:39am; Reply: 181
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 4th, 2015, 3:15am; Reply: 182
Looking good, Ray. Don't listen to the haters.
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, March 4th, 2015, 5:13am; Reply: 183

Quoted from RayW


I saw that yesterday.

Best news I've ever had in my life-time. ;D
Posted by: khamanna, March 4th, 2015, 6:50am; Reply: 184

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley


I think it could be the other way around.


What do you mean, Darren? They get more exposure when they are a part of an OWCs?
Posted by: eldave1, March 4th, 2015, 12:13pm; Reply: 185
Posted by: DebbieM, March 4th, 2015, 6:06pm; Reply: 186
Conragts to the winner and well done to the runner ups. This was great fun and I enjoyed reading the entries.
And thanks to those who reviewed my OWC, i'm pretty new to screenwriting but thought I'd give it a go! Ur comments will come in use! Look forward to the next one.
Posted by: DarrenJamesSeeley, March 4th, 2015, 9:37pm; Reply: 187

Quoted from khamanna


What do you mean, Darren? They get more exposure when they are a part of an OWCs?


With the exception of Shooting The shortys and/or a writer's self promotion in tag signatures or other threads, most shorts have a danger of  getting buried pretty quickly. (note: this is my perception only) While OWC may die down some about a month or so after---those short scripts are more easier to find.(note: this is my perception only)
Posted by: Grandma Bear, March 4th, 2015, 9:53pm; Reply: 188

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley


With the exception of Shooting The shortys and/or a writer's self promotion in tag signatures or other threads, most shorts have a danger of  getting buried pretty quickly.  

I disagree. Reason being is that most filmmakers do not go to the forums to look for scripts. They certainly don't check the portal, unless they are members. Most filmmakers/producers/directors look at scripts from the "unproduced scripts" page which they find on the SS home page.  :)
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