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Posted by: Don, October 15th, 2016, 12:19pm
Skin Deep by Aeinrikr

Sibling rivalry gets turned on its head when a poor peasant girl becomes envious of her beautiful sister’s opulent lifestyle.

Short Period Horror based on The Ass and The Pig
Posted by: Warren, October 15th, 2016, 9:16pm; Reply: 1
I enjoyed this.

Good use of the source material. The writting isn't bad.

I think the dialogue can be trimmed slightly to make it a better read.

Some of your scenes feel like filler. The hanging washing, the discussion between the father and Renee, the first scene at the well. What do they add to the story other than page count?

Great ending that it true to the original fable.

Overall I think it was a good effort.

It's a consider from me.
Posted by: LC, October 16th, 2016, 4:36am; Reply: 2
Clearly an accomplished wordsmith. I'd hazard a guess at two writers, but of course I'll leave that till later.

So, you've got that bit down pretty much.

Tech wise, wouldn't you fade up out of that darkness, or is the EXT shot enough? Are all those 'moments later' correct? Shouldn't 'farmhouse living room' to 'bedroom' be a continuous shot? I'd go for mini slugs in the actual house.  I dunno, you'll have to ask the slug master.

What I was getting at previously, more to the point, is that every scene should contribute meaningfully and as powerfully as it can, in terms of the story.

Your opening for example 'Pitch Black Darkness' - apart from the 'sound' first, (some will argue we won't be able to see anything at all btw), I think you should make that opening visual image tie in with the story straight away. It surely cries out for an image of Renee's reflection in that water well. C'mon, surely.

Helen's line: 'Is it at least enough to save the farm?' - ooh, not sure about that one considering she was just hysterically weeping at Simon's feet. It could come off as unintentionally funny, and not in a good way. Obviously it's deliberately placed, but I think it would be better if Simon says something like: We have no choice, Helen...

Anyway, I'll leave things things there. Everything's pretty darned good. Typo: missing 'have' - how long have you been standing there? And I loved this line:

Tell me, does your head ever catch
a chill from all the air rushing
through it?

The sudden gory ending surprised me effectively.

As for translating well to screen I think it would do well as part of an anthology of horror-themed fairy tales/fables, I'm just not totally convinced of the entertainment value of it as an independent piece, without something else added i.e., a Superimpose with a moral or quote.

That said, you met the challenge in fine form.
Posted by: Pale Yellow, October 16th, 2016, 8:12am; Reply: 3
OH wow .... these keep getting better! :)

Great writing on display here. I loved all of the dialogue and loved how you pitched the sisters jealousy against the other. I was sort of hoping that by Renee getting dolled up...she may step out or get seen by mistake and taken in stead of Claire. :)

What was their 'investment'? Just the two daughters?

Very good story. And just gory enough for me. :)

Recommend from me!

Great job.
Posted by: leitskev, October 16th, 2016, 9:55am; Reply: 4
Very well written! Excellent by by OWC standard.

And as stories go, this too is pretty good by OWC standard. Nice work!

It's interesting to dig into new stories, whether shorts or attempts at a new novel, and try to see what is working and not and why.

This is close. It has the elements. The pampered beautiful sister and the ugly, hard-worked sister protagonist creates the potential for the underdog hero.

A problem in this early draft is that I don't care at all what happens to Renee. Other than the fact that she has been dealt the bad hand in life, there is not much interesting about her. Or there is nothing shown about her character that makes us desperate for her to succeed.

In the Snow White and the Huntsman movie, when we first meet the adult Snow, she is practically a prisoner, but she is surrounded by animals that she has rescued. This gives us a sense that she isolated and that she has a heart. Huntsman is not a great movie, but the writer understood things like that need to be done.

Here it would take a minor tweak or two on a second draft. You don't have to make her a little saint. There are other ways to bond us to a character. For example, she could be very witty. We like witty people and want them to succeed. She could be a little girl that is the best wrestler among the other children...maybe she defeats her older brothers. Of you can just show her as kind to animals or something.

The twist is good, though we can all see it coming. I thought maybe Renee, now in makeup, would be the one taken, a version of the "be careful what you wish for!"

But all and all, a very sound effort here.

nitpicking:

Not sure if peasant girls had their own bedroom in medieval times. The family tended to live in one room.

Not sure they had models then, either.
Posted by: khamanna, October 16th, 2016, 5:23pm; Reply: 5
This kept me on my toes, I was very much into the read. Very well written. The dialog, the flow - all just perfect. And the clever girl is so clever - you want to read and read what she says.

But I couldnt' udnerstand the Father's character. A Pimp then?

Also, the investment part went over my head. Not clear at all. Seems like it's cream that does magic. Why would they make Renee work so much then if they had a grand plan?

So, storywise it's not perfect for me. But the character of Renee is. I was greatly invested into the story. And it ended in a horrific way - I mean it does meet the challenge and all.
Posted by: SAC, October 17th, 2016, 11:03am; Reply: 6
Writer,

Excellent job. Probably my first Rec. Good writing, pace and flow. My ONLY nitpick is your ending. I feel Clair being taken away would have sufficed, didn't think it was necessary for Renee to do that to herself. Though, perhaps it added to the horror element that was lacking here. Still, worthy of a Rec IMO. Good job.

Steve
Posted by: Scar Tissue Films, October 17th, 2016, 11:20am; Reply: 7
"The sound of heavy wood SCRAPING against stone reveals a
long, round shaft lined with bricks."


How, when we're in pitch black darkness?  Pitch black darkness means it's pitch black and you can't see a thing. Write what you really mean.

The dialogue felt stilted at times. A little on the nose.

It was quite slow to start with. You need to hint at the need for money a bit more I think. Everyone seems too relaxed about what's to happen.

Good story, overall. Will probably be the best. There's a slight disconnect between the ending, and the body of the story.  Renee needs to learn to be grateful for what she has, not to overcome vanity, so the ending lacks a little on a professional level.  It would be better if Clair somehow got her face ruined, and Renee gets taken away imo.

Rick
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), October 17th, 2016, 11:52am; Reply: 8
Very poor opening, as this is obviously not "pitch black darkness" - if we can see anything, it's not pitch black.

Writing starts off OK, but no need to use half a page to describe a girl pulling water from a well.

Missing some punctuation, which causes me to stop and reread the line.

Page 2 - Where is Claire?  Inside the house?  Make this clear,because as written, it's not.

The wrylie "(to Helen)" goes with out saying and is completely necessary, because Helen is the only other person in the scene.

"That stings." - These kinds of unnecessary asides sting my arse, as well!

Page 3/4 - Dialogue is very good and works perfectly here.

Page 6 - "can see", "can be heard" - the writing was going so well...no reason at all to interrupt it with these novice phrasings.

Well done...very well done.

I think the story you've told fits the source material nicely and this is what the vast majority lack.

The only issue here, other than some writing mishaps, here and there, is an overall lack of horror, although one could easily say the subject matter was horrific in ways.  I wish there was more horror, but it's a very solid effort!

Grades

Challenge Parameters - A-

Script/Story/Execution - B+

Good job!


Posted by: Cameron (Guest), October 17th, 2016, 12:08pm; Reply: 9
Yep, very little I can say here apart from you've nailed the challenge.

Very well written throughout. In contrast to the comment above, I really liked the opening movements. You can get as technical as you want, but if something draws the reader's attention and sets the scene, like it does here, then for me it serves an exceptionally important purpose.

From start to finish I liked it, and also I wasn't aware of the original piece so didn't know exactly where it was heading.

A recommend

Cam
Posted by: MarkItZero, October 17th, 2016, 1:03pm; Reply: 10
This is solid stuff. I'm gonna nitpick a lot but only cuz this could be great with a rewrite or two.

The opening -- I think it starts too slow. It's half a page to get across that she has to do the hard work. Then there's two scenes almost in a row that are basically identical - mom and dad staring off into space. We don't know why, which is fine, it builds a sense of unease... but just one scene of that is enough.

I'd suggest you cut out the father's staring session. Instead, once Renee drags up the bucket at the beginning she stops and sees the father off in the distance talking with the procurer - he catches her glance and hurries into the house.

The sister conversation -- IMO, by far the most crucial scene. Right now, it's solid but I think you can take it to another level. I'd like a tiny moment where it's not just nonstop vitriol thrown back and forth. Find a moment where they stumble into a shared memory or a shared joke or something like that. And for a tiny moment there's that sisterly bond and sisterly love - then it's right back to the insults. If you can fit that in, then what happens after will hit so much harder.

And a few specific dialogue things...


Quoted Text
CLAIR
Sister, must you be so
confrontational?

RENEE
Is it confrontational to state
plainly the fact that you get
everything handed to you?
It’s bad
enough you continue to get full
meals while the rest of us subsist
on half-portions. But now powders
and perfumes? It’s gone from unfair
to indecent.


**Maybe lose that first line.


Quoted Text
RENEE
Tell me, does your head ever catch
a chill from all the air rushing
through it?

CLAIR
Just because you’re clever doesn’t
mean you’re not pathetic. Today is
very important to me.


**I think you could get a better rhythm here with something like "Does your tongue ever tire of clever remarks?"


Okay, overall this is very solid. So you get a CONSIDER.
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, October 17th, 2016, 2:48pm; Reply: 11
By far the best so far.

I like the fact this is contained as well.

With time there could be tightening up, as for example the opening doesn't work clearly - pitch black then seeing, for example, but we should tolerate this type of stuff in a OWC

The story has a couple of lovely reversals, with the spoilt girl actually being groomed, and then remaining child overreacting, I assume.

Has a decent moral basis to it as well.

I will predict this as the winner.
Posted by: ChrisBodily, October 18th, 2016, 5:46pm; Reply: 12
You have a few issues:

The "Pitch black" opening

Claire/Clair (Pick one)

Large chunks of dialogue (One even taking up eight lines!)

Other than that, I loved it. Being the "Renee" in my own household, I could totally relate to her and the oppressive chores that weigh her down. Story of my fucking life. But unlike Renee, I don't have a Clair(e) to envy; I strive to be Clair... anything to get out of my oppressive life. Luckily for me, Renee has it worse off than I do, since she (I assume) lives in a technologically primitive era (like most fairy tales)... and I live in the here and now.

I wasn't sure where this was going, but you certainly satisfied the horror criteria.

Excellent work. Recommend. A
Posted by: MarkRenshaw, October 19th, 2016, 9:33am; Reply: 13
Well written and easy to follow but forgive my bluntness, the first three pages were quite dull. I point this out because three minutes of screen time is a very long time for a bored audience and they can switch off before you get to the good parts.

As it was, when the action finally got going I started to enjoy this just as it ended!

I couldn't understand the motivations of the farmer. A husband and a father of two daughters who is so heartless he sells off one (and hints at potentially selling the other) came too far out of left field for me. Nothing he did previously even hinted at such evil and selfish intentions.

I'll point out that I haven't read the original story this is based on so if this aspect was in the original fairy tale, so be it. However, I think modern audiences need more to buy into such things.In my mind, such a beauty would be married off to a rich man, so if you are going to do the extreme opposite you need to convince me why.

Renee's reaction was great, in fact she was a good all rounded character. A lovely, gory twist at the end.

This did meet all the OWC criteria (barely, the only horror is in the final shot) as far as I can tell but the dull beginning and unsatisfactory feeling I had regarding the parent's motivations makes this a consider for me.    

-Mark
Posted by: Stumpzian, October 19th, 2016, 12:16pm; Reply: 14
I admire the steady hand in the writing. No hesitations in laying out the story and very few missteps other than showing us something in Pitch Blackness (I was wearing night-vision goggles, so it didn't bother me).

Props to the author. You made it look effortless.
Posted by: PrussianMosby, October 19th, 2016, 7:17pm; Reply: 15
Title isn't striking. Too many combinations with "Skin" do already exist. Actually, your exact title is listed 30 to 40 times on imdb!!!

"Tell me, does your head ever catch
a chill from all the air rushing
through it?"

Good line, changes the mood and serves energy to the conversation.

Tiny note: p6 "Boom! The room shakes." I first thought it's because of the salve, a supernatural effect or sth. and hadn't perceived your description as a banging door.

Well, solid throughout, I'd say. And very down to earth. Good dialogues. I'm not so sure about her last action, unless it's a terrifying image and completes the ironic ending... although I understand the choice, it's how many short films end.  Just think about the title, I'd suggest.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, October 20th, 2016, 10:09pm; Reply: 16
There's a few errors in here... e.g. Claire and Clair used, Simon and Helen would probably be better as Mother and Father but...

Overall this was well written, on brief for the challenge and felt like a Fairy tale... I really liked it.

Good effort
Posted by: James McClung, October 25th, 2016, 12:18am; Reply: 17
The names "mom" and "dad" strike me as anachronistic, although you obviously haven't dated the script. I'd change to "mother" and "father" for that reason and for the sake of consistency. Other than that, some minor nitpicks here and there that you could clean up in a rewrite, but none worth mentioning.

Excellent effort here. Perhaps not horror in a more modern sense, but in the fairy tale context, I think it fits. The gore feels earned and actually has some meaning behind it, which is what makes it effective beyond mere shock value. I took a look at the link in the OP and it seems that you've even succeeded in preserving the meaning of the original tale, which makes the story feel cohesive and thoughtful. An interesting choice of source material makes for icing on the cake.

Very few gripes here. My favorite of the bunch. And with that, I'll stop. For someone who didn't enter, I think I've reached a reasonable quota. Might as well end on a high note.
Posted by: RichardR, October 25th, 2016, 9:53am; Reply: 18
Some notes.

I liked this one.  Nice turn of events.  I think the dialogue is a little much and can be trimmed.  Otherwise, a solid piece.

Best
Richard
Posted by: StuartJ, October 25th, 2016, 2:36pm; Reply: 19
This was really good.

The ending was very brutal, but in a horrificly awesome way.

This is the first script I've posted on since I joined. Not sure what else to say. The writting flows nicely as well.

Congratulations
Posted by: Reef Dreamer, October 31st, 2016, 4:32pm; Reply: 20
Excellent work as usual Eric. Well done.
Posted by: DanC, November 11th, 2016, 1:10pm; Reply: 21
This is just a pet peeve, but, you have a classic story with modern phrases set in classic times (like when the sister comments about the space in her head).

It was okay.  I could see right away what the father was gonna do.  You know, I wish the perfume was magic so that the daughter that everyone thought was pretty was actually ugly.  

Usually, Grimm's stories had a message.  Not sure what the message is here, except the obvious don't sell your kids, don't wish to be beautiful because people buy you free things.

Perhaps if the person who buys the daughter is ugly, smelly, perverted.... something.  

Solid effort.

Dan
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