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Posted by: Don, February 1st, 2019, 11:24pm
Little Brown Box by Eva Markowitz - Short, RomCom - It's what's inside that counts. - pdf format

Writer interested in feedback on this work

Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 2nd, 2019, 12:53pm; Reply: 1
Right away, I can tell that the spacing here is off.

Use a hyphen between "parts" of your Slugs.

CAP a character's first intro.

"...dashes out the door, down the stairs to her car." - Are we really still in the kitchen?  No, are not.

Who is "Joan"?  Clueless...

"plan brown wrapper" - plain brown wrapper.

Way too many mistakes for this Kid.  Sadly, I'm out.

*
Posted by: Cameron (Guest), February 2nd, 2019, 3:30pm; Reply: 2
Hey Writeroo,

So normally I’ll take issue with Jeff’s comments on formatting and what not if he’s being over zealous, but he’s definitely on the money here. The parenthetical parts are off, the random slug line at the bottom of a page doesn’t read well and the dialogue just didn’t really work and didn’t aid the story at all, which I did struggle with.

Romcom wise. Not much comedy, romance was a bit dulled too.

Best of luck with it,

Cam
Posted by: Zack, February 2nd, 2019, 3:50pm; Reply: 3
This is the first one I read. Unfortunately, not a great start.

Tons of writing issues here. Why are none of the characters introduced? Some of the dialog just isn't formated correctly. And even then, the dialog isn't very good.

I skimmed after the second page. Nothing particularly funny or romantic.

Sorry, but this one just didn't do it for me. Good job on getting an entry in, though.

Zack
Posted by: eldave1, February 2nd, 2019, 8:27pm; Reply: 4

Quoted Text
She leaves the mess and dashes out the door, down the stairs
to her car.


If you are going to have this - you need a new header - she's no longer in the apt.



Quoted Text
JEENA
Hey Joe. In a rush today, running
late. Thanks for saving the paper
for me. You know Joan!


Got confused here. Don't know what the "You know Joan!" means.


Quoted Text
Joan Bennett the supervisor is in at her desk and sees Jeena
come in.

JOAN

She raps on her glass office to get Jeena's attention.


You haven't intro'd Joan yet - should be CAPPED and how about at least an age. Also - there's an action line where dialogue belongs.

Now I have noticed several other areas where the same issue occurs. You don't intro Charlie and you have dialogue without a character name.

There are format errors and typos throughout.

Good on ya for entering - but you do need to work a bit on the basics.
Posted by: Philostrate, February 3rd, 2019, 6:28pm; Reply: 5
Hi Writer,

There are quite a few format errors and typos. Some basic writing issues too.

Some examples:


Quoted Text
Jeena is rushing around getting ready for work. She opens
the refrigerator to get her lunch and a jar of mayonnaise
crashes to the floor, breaking.

JEENA should be CAPPED. Age?


Quoted Text
She leaves the mess and dashes out the door, down the stairs
to her car.

You need a new header as Dave said.


Quoted Text
She gets in her car and heads for work.

Same here.


Quoted Text
Jeena greets Joe, the 60-something proprietor who has her
morning newspaper ready.

JOE should be CAPPED too.


Quoted Text
(To herself): I picked the last box
anyone would want. It's gonna be
that kind of day.

Who says this?

There are more, but I'm going to stop here.

Story wise... it's not a bad idea but there's little romance and not much comedy.

This one wasn't for me but I appreciate the effort.

Good job on entering.
Posted by: Warren, February 3rd, 2019, 7:05pm; Reply: 6
Hi Writer,

Straight away, this is passively written and the character introductions aren’t capitalised.

The way you are using parentheticals is incorrect, they are placed below the character’s name or below a chunk of dialogue, completely independent of that dialogue eg:

JOHN
(smiling)
How are you today?
(pointing)
Look at that guy.

Lots of pretty basic errors throughout. You would benefit from reading a lot more scripts.

The comedy didn’t work for me unfortunately.

Well done on entering, it was a tough challenge.

All the best.
Posted by: Vincent, February 3rd, 2019, 7:27pm; Reply: 7
All sorts of problems (as others have noted); it has a feel of a rush job, though it's only five pages. Its heart is in the right place, but there's not enough romance OR comedy; add something to the mix to make it succeed.

BTW, FWIW there was an actress from the '30s through the '50s named Joan Bennett (part of the famed Bennett acting family). A fine actress, Joan was a rather pallid blonde at first compared to her more glamorous elder sister Constance, changed to a brunette in the late '30s and it changed her fortunes, particularly in the new genre of film noir.
Posted by: LC, February 4th, 2019, 1:20am; Reply: 8
More of a drama really.

I see others have touched on formatting so I won't harp on.

How about making Joe the same age as Jeena?  Perhaps Jeena usually doesn't give the news-stand guy the time of day.

It's a good idea when writing shorts that everything have significance - the Mayo spill in the opening doesn't actually make her late cause she doesn't stop to clean it up, and the office politics is neither here nor there just a minor irritation to offset her windfall.

For a RomCom you could have focused on Joe's, as yet, unrequited love for Jeena.

As is, this is a bit unfocused. Perhaps you ran out of time trying to decide which story to tell.

And yet, there's potential here, easy to read despite errors, and it does have heart. It just needs a lot more heart.
And, you've got to zoom in on one central story you want to tell.
Posted by: irish eyes, February 4th, 2019, 8:58am; Reply: 9
A lot has been mentioned on grammar so I'll leave that.

Storywise, this was not a romcom neither funny or romantic just a girl with a shitty attitude throughout until she won big at the end.

I had to read it twice which is not a good thing

sorry

Good job on entering
Posted by: CameronD, February 5th, 2019, 9:45am; Reply: 10
Your logline is not a logline

As I'm like the 8th review I'll leave out all the nit picky formatting issues and errors as stating them again will be redundant to focus on story.

Very little setup here. This is a short so every page matters. Pg 3 and all I know about Katrina is she's overworked and in a rush. No real conflict except to get caught up on work and no romance, or comedy at all. That's bad considering this was supposed to be a rom com. Get to the point.

5 pages? Very short. Here is your story from what I could gather.

Woman late to work picks up a random gift from newspaper guy.
At work she is berated.
Wins 10,000 from the box she picked and thanks newspaper guy.

Not really a story here at all. No conflict, motivation, romance, or comedy. Your main does nothing to influence the story, the story just happens to her and she is caught in it.

My guess is this is a newer writer which is fine, we all start somewhere and just entering this contest and taking the chance to work on your craft is exactly what you should be doing right now. So good job on this, take the advice to heart and keep writing!  
Posted by: Matthew Taylor, February 5th, 2019, 11:47am; Reply: 11
Hello Writer

There is not a lot more I can add that hasn't already been said.

I'm assuming you are new to writing - I hope you won't be put off by negative reviews - They can be a bitter pill to swallow when you first start, but trust me, they are a good thing - These reviews will be priceless in helping you to better your writing.

Story, I could see what you were trying to do, but it didn't work for me.

Well done for entering the challenge

Matt
Posted by: James McClung, February 5th, 2019, 1:44pm; Reply: 12
Yeah, again with the typos/formatting/etc. Sorry, but I think it's an important point to drive home here.

I would hope that you're new to writing. If that's the case, the many issues others have pointed out previously could easily be remedied with brushing up on your screenwriting basics and reading other scripts. Don't sweat it. But if that's not the case, I think I'm left to assume that this simply wasn't edited before it was submitted, as many of these errors are particularly egregious and surely would've been caught in a quick once-over. If I'm wrong, I apologize, but that this wasn't edited doesn't seem to be that much of a stretch to me.

Beyond that, I'm not sure that this works at all. I mean, if you think about it, the plot is barely functional.

First off, if Jeena were so late that she had to leave a puddle of mayo and broken glass on her kitchen floor all day, why would she have the time to pick up a newspaper and chit-chat with Joe, even briefly? If she's at risk of staying late at the office, would she even have time to read the newspaper (I realize it's Joan who mentions that Jeena might have to stay late, but clearly Jeena has enough on her plate that she can expect it to take up most of her workday)?

The conflict with the expense report is rife with issues. You mention "Jeena continues working on the expense report and finally has a draft version done. She needs to double check it before sending it to JJ." How do we know this? Even if we did (say Jeena outright says "Finally done!"), are we supposed to assume she finished her draft as soon as Joan finished chewing her out? Or is there supposed to be a transition here somewhere?

Weirder still is that in the next scene, JJ mentions the report is incomplete. Didn't you say she finished a draft? Maybe it's a "bad" report but perhaps not incomplete. Even if it were incomplete, wouldn't they think something was odd, as in Jeena surely wouldn't have sent it on purpose? I mean, maybe not; just a thought...

Not that any of this matters. The situation is resolved almost immediately and with little agency from Jeena, if any. It's a random character, Kyle, who comes out of nowhere and saves the day. The swiftness of the resolution kinda indicates how half-baked Katrina's plan was from the beginning.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the brown box. Jeena could've just as easily not been late, came to the office at the regular time, and immediately opened the box. Not that I'd advise that; that's barely a story. Either way, that Jeena wins the lottery is totally arbitrary, i.e. anticlimactic.

Finally, are we supposed to assume Joe has some romantic interest in Jeena. It doesn't come off that way, especially as he says he's "thanking all the pretty ladies" and not just her (thanking them for what, anyway?). Presumably, Jeena could've taken anyone of the boxes. Why would she take the ugliest one? How would she even have time to peruse? I thought she was running late.

Even if any of this added up, how would Joe know the lottery ticket is a winner? I suspect the necklace was supposed to be the main gift, in which case, why cheapen it with a random lottery ticket? On second thought, in a weird way, the fact that it's a winning ticket cheapens the necklace even more as a romantic gesture.

No comedy that I could discern. Were there chocolates in this one? I didn't notice. Definitely falls short on meeting the challenge in my book.

Okay...

Lemme try to end on a positive note and try to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you're new to writing, you've got plenty of resources to improve. Kudos to having the guts to enter this challenge. If you're not new to writing, I'd hope that you were down to the wire/eager to participate and tried to belt something out in the time that you had. I didn't do that, so you've got an edge over me no matter what.
Posted by: Sandra Elstree., February 5th, 2019, 8:01pm; Reply: 13
Issues with formatting and who says what.

It doesn’t sound or feel real. She gets a ruby necklace from a Newspaper vender? If you fix the formatting and do a little foreshadowing with the Brown box, you can work towards making this a sweet little short.

Get rid of needless banter in the office. Since it's a short, try and make every word count towards the effect you want to produce character wise.

Give us a little suspense maybe? Like her receiving a plain brown paper wrapped box and she needs to discover who it came from? That sort of thing.

The basic idea of the story is good though.

Thank you for your effort and taking the challenge!  :)

Sandra
Posted by: IamGlenn, February 6th, 2019, 12:44pm; Reply: 14
Hi,

This one didn't hold my attention. Seems like there was a lot of dialogue that could definitely be cut. Typos, grammar mistakes and formatting issues all over. Story-wise, as I said, didn't hold my attention. A lot of nothing going on, then a sloppy conclusion.

Good luck,
Glenn
Posted by: ghost and_ghostie gal, February 7th, 2019, 12:54am; Reply: 15
Not here to pile on.  And I'm not willing to go out on a limb and say that you're a green writer yet.

That said, you have to go back and ask yourself what you're trying to tell us in these <5 pages.   All hope is not lost, because the process of molding this into something worthwhile has already begun.

Kudos for finishing.
Posted by: Spqr, February 7th, 2019, 1:21pm; Reply: 16
It's a cute story, but where was the romance and comedy? I think the better story would have been about Joe and why he tries to brighten the days of the women he knows.
Posted by: SAC, February 7th, 2019, 8:37pm; Reply: 17
Writer,

Well, this one has many issues. I'm sure I'm repeating, but... Formatting, specifically slug line, unfilmmables, wrylies need to be properly inserted. I could go on. But that's okay. Those are things that can be learned, and you learn by doing so I appreciate the effort you've put forth. However, your story itself wouldn't be considered a rom com at all. No romance, no comedy. It's simple. As is, this reads like a "day in the life" skit, but even then it doesn't generate much interest on it's own. It's all pretty ordinary. There needs to be some action, a desperate co-worker, a tornado hits the building -- something. But keep at it and good effort on entering!

Steve
Posted by: Dreamscale (Guest), February 7th, 2019, 8:47pm; Reply: 18

Quoted from SAC
...a tornado hits the building -- something.Steve


YES!  This may be what the majority of these scripts need!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Funny...and of course, I jest, but you're actually spot on, in a weird way.

Posted by: Gary in Houston, February 8th, 2019, 2:27pm; Reply: 19
Everyone has already said what I would say here, but I’ll Add a couple of things: first, read a lot of scripts. Even on this site you’ll find a ton of first-rate scripts to give you a good idea on format, plot, dialogue and so on.  In particular, after the votes are cast in this challenge, read the top four or five scripts again and see why those scripts stood out to everyone.

Second, make sure you have the right type of screenwriting software software that will format your script correctly. FadeIn and Celtx are a couple that are free and can help you clean up your formatting errors.

Third, think about writing proactively and putting on paper what we see on the screen.  Write also in the active tense.  So, for example, instead of “Jeena is working on her report” it would be “Jeena works on her report.”  Not “he is sitting” but instead “he sits.”

Lastly, keep writing as much as possible. Start small, maybe 3-4 page scripts, and have a well-thought out story with conflict and a solid beginning and ending. Learn the craft and you’ll soon be on your way!

Best,
Gary
Posted by: PKCardinal, February 8th, 2019, 2:46pm; Reply: 20
Not much to add... so, I'll just point out one minor thing to work on. Everyone else's notes should keep you busy otherwise.

My note: pay attention to your action blocks. Ask, can this be filmed?

In your first line of action: Jeena is rushing around getting ready for work.

Someone else mentioned "Jeena is rushing" should be "Jeena rushes" (a basic mistake, easily corrected now that you know what to look for). But, let's look at  "getting ready for work." You need to either 1. show us something that indicates she's getting ready for work, specifically. or 2. leave it out, as the important part is she's late for something... which we later find to be work.

Again... can this be filmed? "getting ready for work" can't be filmed. Her actions can.

Hope this makes sense.

Keep writing!
Posted by: jayrex, February 9th, 2019, 2:09pm; Reply: 21
I think the writer's new.  It's okay.  We all start off somewhere.

The characters should all be introduced in capitals.  I noticed Kyle was but no one else.

Scene headers should be consistent.

Some dialogue had missing character names too.

This story read like a drama.  No comedy nor romance.  And in general.  Office stories can be a hard sell.

I recommend not looking at the script for a month.  And then go back for another rewrite.  You'll notice things that weren't apparent when you first completed the story.

All the best.
Posted by: khamanna, February 11th, 2019, 1:12pm; Reply: 22
Hi, writer.

I noticed passive writing at the beginning - a lot of verbs ending in "ing". Easy fix.

The dialog is long-winded, meandering about needless subjects for me. Might be just me.

I miss the excitement, it's very down to earth entry, and the turns you suggesting are a bit hard to buy.

Good job on entering.
Posted by: Pale Yellow, February 11th, 2019, 4:13pm; Reply: 23
I love your title and I love your tag line.. it's more what's on a poster than a logline but I love it for a short challenge like this.

Spacing off .. seems like someone's using a free screenwriting software... use industry standard of fix spacing.

JEENA
Shit! No time for this.
-- right after this dialogue you SHOW her rushing out.. so we know there's no time or she's late or whatever but things like this can be cut out of the dialogue. Show us ... do not tell us.

I think this one needs a little more work. It didn't feel funny. Not really a rom/com feeling for me.

Good job completing owc though!
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 13th, 2019, 6:42pm; Reply: 24
So, first para you describe her running out of the room she's in, down some stairs and into her car - all without starting a new scene.

To be honest, formatting, typos etc abound - I'll assume this is down to getting it done to a deadline.

So I'll concentrate on story...

Okay so there's not really any romance in this or comedy in particular, but it has a tone that I liked for some reason.

Well done for getting one in.
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