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SimplyScripts Screenwriting Discussion Board  /  The 2019 Writers' Tournament  /  Sanctuary - WT4 - In Kickstarter!
Posted by: Don, June 24th, 2019, 10:53pm
Sanctuary by Paul Knauer (PKCardinal)  writing as Anonymous46
- Two young boys seek an escape from the horrors of the world around them. - Short, Action, Drama

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/k-ross/sanctuary-more-than-a-short-film
Posted by: Gary in Houston, June 25th, 2019, 9:40am; Reply: 1
Criteria met on action and the trading cards.

I think this is a decently written piece by a very capable writer. But turning the boys into bank robbers (and attempted cop killers) don’t make them very sympathetic despite how their fathers treated them.

I think you tried to disguise the fact that the young Clint and Johnny turned into the bank robbers by not using FLASHBACK to open their scenes.  That’s a bit of a cheat and I don’t think it really accomplishes anything. I probably would have felt better about you using the flashback designation and then weaving the stories together a little better. As it stands, there’s not really a twist or surprise. The card also really never factors into the story other than to try and force a connection onto the two boys.  But since neither of them ever used the card and left it to basically deteriorate in the church, was there really any meaning in the card itself?

While writing is very good here, I just didn’t necessarily buy into the storyline.

Best of luck,
Gary
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), June 25th, 2019, 10:54am; Reply: 2
Good... at last... first decent action script I've read so far. Nice opening. It's 5 pages, so you start with action, right? Right! Then we dive into the story.

I like Clint... he's a good kid. Tough if you fuck with him, but your loyal friend otherwise.


Code

GUNMAN
No. Take me to the church.



This is a moment... milk it.

GUNMAN
No.

Their eyes meet in the rearview mirror.

GUNMAN
The church.

Code

The Driver, Older Johnny, drops the dying Gunman, Older
Clint, onto a pew.



Unnecessary. We get it!

OK. I'd have liked to see the kid kill the father. This was good. Lots of action and a nice fast flow. Well done.
Posted by: JEStaats, June 25th, 2019, 8:25pm; Reply: 3
This was written well enough and meets the challenge, no sweat. The 'twist' was an obvious turn for me. No real surprise. The boys, talking about good being out there, were little creeps and I didn't care for them much. Dialog was a bit sappy in places but there were some good lines to be had too.

For some reason, I envisioned this with their childhood in the 1920's and young adults in late 1930's. Driving big Packards, shooting revolvers and the cops with Thompsons. I don't know why, it just showed up in my head that way.

Nice job here, writer.
Posted by: eldave1, June 25th, 2019, 8:36pm; Reply: 4
Well written and I really like the premise - good job here.
Posted by: LC, June 25th, 2019, 9:46pm; Reply: 5
Yes! You started right in the thick of it on page 1,  which I think a decent Action script should do.  Or, at least start with only a short build up when it's a five minute Short.

The 'older' bit flummoxed me at first and I wasn't sure who was who. I do think more clarity is needed in the writing there.

Most of your action descriptions were pretty good but some I thought needed ramping up, case in point:

The Driver pours on the speed. The car drifts with every
bump, barely maintaining contact with the road.


Pours? It's okay, but you want verbs that jump with your action, imh.
The Driver accelerates
Driver plants his foot on the gas, hits the gas, guns it, cranks it, ...
The Car blasts through an intersection,
'drifts' is too sedate a word for action, in my world.

Barely maintaining ? Again, too laboured.
Perhaps the car clips something, hits a bump, becomes airborne.

Just suggestions. Yours resonated, made me feel it more cause it's got heart combined with action.

I'm torn with them ultimately being bad guys but it's all in the upbringing I suppose.  ;)

Nice job.
Posted by: stevie, June 25th, 2019, 11:13pm; Reply: 6
Yeah this is pretty good but needs to establish early that it’s two different years. It’s very similar to the end of the It novel when the Losers are in the sewers, flitting back and forth.

Prolly just have the year when they are kids then in the future bits again show the year and say Clint (now 30) or whatever   Then just have the current year in the slug or as a mini slug  

Would be so much cleaner to read   As it is I was skimming and didn’t click what the go was for a tick lol

Agree with JE about making a period piece too, in both timelines. The card?  Will re-read it to see its tokenly whacked in
Posted by: Warren, June 25th, 2019, 11:19pm; Reply: 7
Hi writer,

Not sure why you went with Gunman and Driver, it's pretty easy to piece together early on what’s going on. It's not really a secret. I say name them and do a flashback.


Quoted Text
The Driver, Older Johnny


I think what I suggested is a better way to handle this, then when you come to this part you aren’t dealing with awkward names like Older Johnny.


Quoted Text
A bullet shatters the cross, shot from the Police outside.


Could be written better.

The dialogue on page 5 is a little too sappy for me, and the OLDER JOHNNY/OLDER CLINT just doesn’t look good on the page.


Quoted Text
OLDER CLINT
It gave me hope -- for the world,
you know? There’s good out there.


A bit ironic (I think that's the right word) as these guys aren’t actually good, good to each other, but not good.

Writing is top notch, I just think a few changes could make it cleaner. Story wasn’t bad, better than most I've read. The page 5 lovefest dialogue was just too much for me.

All the best.
Posted by: Matthew Taylor, June 26th, 2019, 7:09am; Reply: 8
Hello writer

Why no flashback's for this? Maybe you thought it would give the story away too early - maybe it would for someone reading the script, but a viewer wouldn't see FLASHBACK, they would just see the scene.
The flashback would be for the producer, so it is crystal clear - just my opinion.

Same thing with the characters DRIVER and GUNMAN - the producer needs to know who these characters are from the start, revealing their names early in the script would not reveal them early to the viewer, so would keep that story element alive.... or I could be wrong, who knows.

Writing is great, story is great - thoroughly enjoyable read. I think as a movie it would be pretty damn good too.

Dialogue at the end is a bit too gushy for my liking - but you put their friendship across very well and the final image of them together was very fitting.

Top job writer
Posted by: Spqr, June 27th, 2019, 6:44pm; Reply: 9
Excellent.
Posted by: PrussianMosby, June 27th, 2019, 10:15pm; Reply: 10
Sanctuary

The boys speak a bit too premature.

top p3 I think I know where it's going :-)
now it comes to the 'how'

All right. Lots to say here…
First, it reminded me a lot of The Way of the Gun. Two friends, a criminal history, a late firework, and eventually some pathos in their united fate when reflecting life before it all ends.

Truly great. I even like the 'cheesy' dialogue in the last scene, felt human and fit well considering these people's arc ending soon at this place with the inevitable; epic needs epic. Thumbs up.

I can understand that you haven't marked the flashbacks. I'd wish it would become state of the art because it's just a better, more enjoyable story experience to follow the plot exactly as the audience does. So, why not leave it to the shooting draft and production side to include such stuff. I absolutely understand your decision here and applaud you for it.

It had a lot of heart. The execution felt like custom-tailored.
Posted by: Pale Yellow, June 28th, 2019, 10:03am; Reply: 11
Like title and logline.

LOVE your character development... best I've read yet in this challenge. The two boys remind me of the boys in the movie MUD. Dialogue sounds so natural and organic the way you've set them up. Really nice work.

Wow and that moment when the Gunman says take me to the church... hits us like a COLLISION. Great midpoint!

And then we realize it's their older selves we are watching OMG this is amazing.

OH super wow... I wish I could write like this! GREAT job.
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, June 28th, 2019, 2:29pm; Reply: 12
Great script, loved it.
Posted by: jayrex, June 30th, 2019, 7:33am; Reply: 13
I didn’t like this one.  In the beginning it seemed good but by the end I didn’t like it.  It meets the criteria.
Posted by: FrankM, July 4th, 2019, 2:17pm; Reply: 14
Holy misleading time-jumps, Batman! Clever setup. The church and the trading card both get some attention, and it's definitely an action script, so no problems with the criteria. That's especially impressive since you don't seem to know anything about baseball.
The kids sound like teens to me, but maybe kids are just growing faster these days. Get off my lawn :)
You shouldn't change the labels for character dialouge just because we've finally learned their names. Seems to be acceptable if a character was in disguise, but in your case I would have continued calling them GUNMAN and DRIVER. They are distinct from CLINT and JOHNNY since the kids would be played by different actors.
Also, "Older Clint" implies an elderly man. "Adult Clint" would be clearer.
Nice way to cram a lot of story into five pages... despite there being a lot of action.
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 8th, 2019, 11:58am; Reply: 15

Quoted from FrankM
. That's especially impressive since you don't seem to know anything about baseball.
.


Oh, you're killing me! :) (I'm just goofing here...)

Been a HUGE baseball fan my whole life. Spent over a decade in sports radio hosting talk shows -- primarily about baseball and football.

Of course... now that I think about it... I did regularly get people telling me I had no idea what I was talking about... so, carry on.

(I pictured the card as a rare insert... akin to a signed Ken Griffey, Jr. rookie card... one that everyone knows is going to go through the roof.)

Seriously, though. Thanks for the comments.



My 2 big decisions in writing this were 1. flashback? 2. how to handle the names

I knew I'd get comments no matter which direction I took it.

I'm glad I handled the flashbacks the way I did. It's exactly how you'd see it on screen... with no indication we're in different times.

I originally didn't change the names on the last page... and I didn't call out the transition between the times. I wish I would have kept it that way. But, I could just hear someone saying "but, they're different actors, so we need to know that for production purposes." to which, I'd reply "I'll change it for the shooting script."

I went back and forth... finally decided to change them. I'll be changing it back.
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 8th, 2019, 12:00pm; Reply: 16

Quoted from DustinBowcot


Code

GUNMAN
No. Take me to the church.



This is a moment... milk it.

GUNMAN
No.

Their eyes meet in the rearview mirror.

GUNMAN
The church.




I love this note. Thanks!
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 8th, 2019, 12:04pm; Reply: 17
Oh yeah, last thought... regarding the boys' dialogue.

I picture these boys as old beyond their years, due to their very rough upbringing. So, they use language that makes them feel bigger and tougher.

Okay... I've spammed my own script thread enough.

Again, thanks to all for the notes and comments. I'll be rewriting this with many of the suggested changes.
Posted by: Don, March 2nd, 2020, 7:52pm; Reply: 18
In Preproduction
Posted by: Warren, March 2nd, 2020, 7:56pm; Reply: 19
Congrats, Paul. You're on a roll!
Posted by: PKCardinal, March 2nd, 2020, 8:41pm; Reply: 20

Quoted from Warren
Congrats, Paul. You're on a roll!


Thanks, Warren! Absolutely loving the producer and director on this project. Rewrites have been awesome. Casting has begun.

I can't wait to see what they do with it.
Posted by: Warren, March 2nd, 2020, 9:03pm; Reply: 21

Quoted from PKCardinal


Thanks, Warren! Absolutely loving the producer and director on this project. Rewrites have been awesome. Casting has begun.

I can't wait to see what they do with it.


Sounds like you got a winner, they are unfortunately few and far between.
Posted by: DustinBowcot (Guest), March 3rd, 2020, 2:54am; Reply: 22
Good luck.
Posted by: MarkItZero, March 3rd, 2020, 4:27am; Reply: 23
Congrats! Hope it turns out great.
Posted by: PKCardinal, February 3rd, 2022, 11:47am; Reply: 24
Covid has knocked this production back several times... but, I just received word (and pictures) of construction on the church set for this short. Looks like it's finally going to happen.
Posted by: Warren, February 3rd, 2022, 3:45pm; Reply: 25

Quoted from PKCardinal
Covid has knocked this production back several times... but, I just received word (and pictures) of construction on the church set for this short. Looks like it's finally going to happen.


Awesome news, can't wait to see this one!
Posted by: PKCardinal, February 3rd, 2022, 4:54pm; Reply: 26

Quoted from Warren


Awesome news, can't wait to see this one!


Thanks, Warren.

I also co-wrote a short last year with this director and he shot that script. It's being edited now. The stills were amazing. Hopefully I'll have something to share on that one, too. It was a good script and a fun collaboration, so I'm rooting hard for it.
Posted by: LC, February 3rd, 2022, 4:57pm; Reply: 27
Look forward to seeing both, PK.
Great news!
Posted by: Warren, February 3rd, 2022, 4:57pm; Reply: 28
Good news all round then... happy to hear it :)
Posted by: AnthonyCawood, February 4th, 2022, 2:59pm; Reply: 29
Great news Paul!
Posted by: Zack, February 4th, 2022, 5:18pm; Reply: 30
Happy to hear it! Congrats, Dude! :)
Posted by: eldave1, February 4th, 2022, 8:16pm; Reply: 31
Super!
Posted by: PKCardinal, November 8th, 2022, 2:14pm; Reply: 32
Quick update: filming set for the weekend of Nov. 19th.

If anyone wants to follow, there's an Instagram account up and running. https://www.instagram.com/sanctuarytheshortfilm/


Huge crew in place. SAG production. Also, anybody in the LA area... last I saw, they're hiring. Looking for a set PA. $150/10 hour day. If it's not filled, and you're interested, I'll put your name in. They were also looking for a script supervisor, but I didn't see it listed yesterday, so that may be filled.

Great group of people. I'm super excited to see the finished project.
Posted by: Warren, November 8th, 2022, 3:49pm; Reply: 33

Quoted from PKCardinal
Quick update: filming set for the weekend of Nov. 19th.

If anyone wants to follow, there's an Instagram account up and running. https://www.instagram.com/sanctuarytheshortfilm/


Huge crew in place. SAG production. Also, anybody in the LA area... last I saw, they're hiring. Looking for a set PA. $150/10 hour day. If it's not filled, and you're interested, I'll put your name in. They were also looking for a script supervisor, but I didn't see it listed yesterday, so that may be filled.

Great group of people. I'm super excited to see the finished project.


This looks like it's going to be amazing. Super legit set up.

I'll be following along on instagram and can't wait to see the film.
Posted by: PKCardinal, November 8th, 2022, 4:56pm; Reply: 34

Quoted from Warren


This looks like it's going to be amazing. Super legit set up.

I'll be following along on instagram and can't wait to see the film.


I could tell you stories about this production that would amaze you. (They did me.) The level of effort here is, I'm betting, comparable to what you're putting together for your current project. (I'm awed by both.)

Thanks for the support!
Posted by: Warren, November 8th, 2022, 6:40pm; Reply: 35

Quoted from PKCardinal


I could tell you stories about this production that would amaze you. (They did me.) The level of effort here is, I'm betting, comparable to what you're putting together for your current project. (I'm awed by both.)

Thanks for the support!


I'd love to hear them (PM me). It's very obvious that this team means business and I don't think they will produce anything short of awesome.

Posted by: PKCardinal, November 18th, 2022, 3:05pm; Reply: 36
Principle photography started yesterday. Runs through the weekend. Will share any photos that they make public.

I did see one non-public short video that I can't stop smiling about.
Posted by: Warren, November 20th, 2022, 5:31pm; Reply: 37
Can't wait!!!
Posted by: PKCardinal, January 15th, 2023, 2:40pm; Reply: 38
For anyone wanting a bit of the inside scoop on shooting Sanctuary... one of the producers has written a 3-part blog that talks quite a bit about many of the people involved in the production.

You can read it on Stage32's site: https://www.stage32.com/blog/six-degrees-of-connection-on-stage-32-part-one-3205

Easter egg alert... there's a super interesting nugget buried in Part 3. :)
Posted by: Warren, January 17th, 2023, 3:14am; Reply: 39

Quoted from PKCardinal
For anyone wanting a bit of the inside scoop on shooting Sanctuary... one of the producers has written a 3-part blog that talks quite a bit about many of the people involved in the production.

You can read it on Stage32's site: https://www.stage32.com/blog/six-degrees-of-connection-on-stage-32-part-one-3205

Easter egg alert... there's a super interesting nugget buried in Part 3. :)


Good read :)
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 18th, 2023, 4:27pm; Reply: 40
Hey all, just wanted to share a bit of news. We've just gone live with a Kickstarter campaign for finishing funds on Sanctuary.

I hope you'll check out the page: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/k-ross/sanctuary-more-than-a-short-film

You'll get to meet the crew, learn about the project, etc.

No pressure to contribute. But, if you have any way to help us get the word out, we'd appreciate it.
Posted by: Warren, July 18th, 2023, 5:29pm; Reply: 41

Quoted from PKCardinal
Hey all, just wanted to share a bit of news. We've just gone live with a Kickstarter campaign for finishing funds on Sanctuary.

I hope you'll check out the page: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/k-ross/sanctuary-more-than-a-short-film

You'll get to meet the crew, learn about the project, etc.

No pressure to contribute. But, if you have any way to help us get the word out, we'd appreciate it.


This is a really professional looking film and campaign, congrats to everyone involved.

I've backed it and will be watching with interest.

Good luck!
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 18th, 2023, 5:36pm; Reply: 42

Quoted from Warren


This is a really professional looking film and campaign, congrats to everyone involved.

I've backed it and will be watching with interest.

Good luck!


Many thanks! You're the best!
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 18th, 2023, 5:38pm; Reply: 43
If nothing else, I'd invite everyone to check the link, if only to watch the video. It includes a few quick shots from the short. Gives you a feel of what it's going to look like.
Posted by: LC, July 18th, 2023, 6:28pm; Reply: 44
Paul, this looks terrific!
I hope the target is reached.

Backed it. :)
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 18th, 2023, 6:32pm; Reply: 45

Quoted from LC
Paul, this looks terrific!
I hope the target is reached.

Backed it. :)


You rock! Thank you!
Posted by: PKCardinal, July 19th, 2023, 5:41pm; Reply: 46
For continued Kickstarter campaign updates, please see the Sanctuary Kickstarter thread in General Chat, further down the board.

Thanks everyone!

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Kickstarter campaign - https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1689804439/

- Don
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