I was reading Murphy's post on the Critics Society Awards, and it struck me. We should have our own awards. I really think that would be a great idea. Now, I'm not saying that we should award some movie "Best Picture" or anything. I mean, award the scripts on this site.

It would be simple, we nominate a screenplay that we have read (In the year of 2007), and send in it for what category we want it in. When I mean "send it in", I mean PM Don. lol.

Now, the only downfall really is the category awards. I mean, we could do "Best Screenplay" and "Best Screenplay Adaption". But then more of the awards seem a little pointless. But then again, we could do a "Best Screenplay 'Insert Genre Here'". Oh, and also "Best OWC Script". I really think it could work.

Thoughts?

This has been tried many times and ended pretty horribly for each.

Instead we have a "Simply Recommended" script thread as a sticky in one of the discussion boards somewhere.

Not a bad idea but don might disagree as sounds like a lot of work for him.  Also I think there would have to be a voting panel and a shortlist so everyone that votes has actually read the nominations.  Like the categories idea, owc, shorts, horror and so on...the panel's gonna have to read a lot of scripts!

Seriusly, this is not going to happen.  Heres the board I was talking a/b: http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-knowyou/m-1141227828/

Like Higgonaitor said, these things never turn out well.

If you like a script that much, put it in the recommended thread.

You could always do it like the real WGA Awards meaning it's blind and two step.

You figure out your categories, limit the scripts to those first posted in 2007 by people actively involved in Simply Scripts and then offer that list in an online poll that doesn't show results.  Those votes are calculated and then the top five in whatever categories are voted on again.

You could lobby like crazy for your script if it makes it to the top five but you'll never know  who voted for you unless they tell you.

It might be a headache for Don and the moderators to compile the initial lists but after that it's all just the poll counting votes.

But this is coming from someone who voted for the last Resident Evil movie in this years WGA Awards because I got my numbers confused.  So it might be best to ignore me.

Thanks for that link, that is exactly what I have been looking for. I knew that there would be loads of old scripts on here that I should be reading but it was always impossible to know which ones I should read - now I know! Cheers.

Shelton, what about a monthly thread in the shorts section that people can just name their favorite new script they read that month? Just one pick allowed.

Anyway looks like I have got some scripts to catch-up on,

later.

I suppose something like that could be done, but I don't see it as being all that different than the recommended thread.

I like the monthly best script thread. It'll keep things fresh and it'll give the writer a sense of accomplishement. Just my thoughts...

~Zack~

Higgs is right.  Won't happen.  You are wasting your creative energies trying to come up with ways that it might.

They all crash and burn under the weight of egos, agendas, favoritism, and the very, very best of intentions.  They just do.

Quoted from Murphy ...what about a monthly thread in the shorts section that people can just name their favorite new script...

That's what the "SimplyRecommended" thread is for, Murph.  It is not a locked thread -- anybody can add to it at anytime.

If you find something that you think is worthy, go ahead and place it in there.

Quoted from bert Higgs is right.  Won't happen.  You are wasting your creative energies trying to come up with ways that it might. They all crash and burn under the weight of egos, agendas, favoritism, and the very, very best of intentions.  They just do.

Exactly. Now the Oscars on the other hand...  

Sorry.. I didn't know. It would of been a neat idea, eh, oh well. This thread could be closed now.

The awards we had back in 2006 I believe (2 times) were run by Alan (Banned, Hated by me and most others who actually tries to have a conversation with the guy without the name of his series coming up) and they worked to a point.

The biggest problem was nobody voted maybe because Alan was disliked or maybe because your script wasn't on the list.

What he did is take the most "popular" scripts and writers and put them against each other. He added him self quite a few times the last time and won... go figure.

The major problem was votes but it wasn't a Don hosted event which means people didn't take it seriously.

It could/would work if Don was at the helm in my opinion but with all the other stresses and concerns in life it's not worth it.

And usually the popular writer's work won which was unfair to everyone else because it is never based on talent. Just how much ass you can kiss.

Are you telling me that Banana Chan wasn't the best script ever posted on these boards? Get outta here!


Phil

Ah!!!!! You got me Phil! I really wanted to read Bananna Chan....

~Zack~

Quoted from dogglebe Are you telling me that Banana Chan wasn't the best script ever posted on these boards? Get outta here! Phil

The only positive thing he ever did was get banned. His series was perfect in his mind but he kept mutilating it until he created a mess. In a sense, he raped Banana Chan.

Anyway, all garbage aside (and I mean that series) we had a chance and we blew it.

After numerous pretty please's from Alan, I read the first chapter.  After posting my review, I felt I got raped.

And it wasn't even an off-the-wall review.  That's the funny part.


Phil

I read about 15 episodes of the first draft and didn't get anything from it but I got my revenge in script form and in serving him form.

Did you know he threatened me and the site who hosts the scripts which i take shots at his series with a lawsuit? Then when I called him out on it he apologized and started being all friendly with me.

You see his acting debut in that no budget Canadian film? He should stick to stalking gir... I mean writing.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley I read about 15 episodes of the first draft and didn't get anything from it but I got my revenge in script form and in serving him form. Did you know he threatened me and the site who hosts the scripts which i take shots at his series with a lawsuit? Then when I called him out on it he apologized and started being all friendly with me. You see his acting debut in that no budget Canadian film? He should stick to stalking gir... I mean writing.

I think I still have the pm's that he sent me after I critiqued his script.  He really has not grip on reality, that boy.

Was his film the war film where all the extremely white guys talked urban?


Phil

Yeah, I love when a bad idea is made into a film using guys with pictures of them selves on a wall.

Do you ever feel like thanking Alan for being a punchline to every joke imaginable?

He's good that way.

But to everyone wanting the awards, try to find the thread in general Chat which has the script Alan wrote for the awards using his characters. Classic material.

Or the donut thread where he poorly apologized for his actions.


Phil

ahh, im gonna miss those verbal sparring matches between Dogglebe and Alan....

if for nothing else then sheer entertainment value.... seriously that stuff was pure forum gold. Must read material for any writer struggling with dialogue.

LOL


j/k

Hey, I accepted Alan's incompetence as a writer; he wasn't.


Phil

Not being here very long I of course had no idea what people were talking about. So with the help of the SS search engine have just had an entertaining hour reading some of the posts you are talking about. It's a shame this Alan bloke was not still around - for entertainment value of course. He certainly seemed to annoy a few people, Phil in particular!

Does anybody have a link to one of the threads that have Phil and Alan are fighting in? Sounds like something fun to read.

All the good stuff was deleted.  Apparently, one or two of the moderators thought I went too far.  Can you believe that?  Me?

My personal favorite was in response to Alan telling us that his family was at risk of losing their home due to financial reasons.  Rather than get a job to help, he chose to dedicate all his time on BC so, when it was produced, he'd have enough money to buy a new home.

I ripped him a new one for that.  The guy was, like, 27 years old and he wasn't contributing to his family at all.

And then there was the donut thread....



Phil

I feel the need to share this, as it relates to the current conversation.

Alan Holman still talks to me.

He’s a friend through facebook and I must admit he’s an annoying one.

He’s constantly sending me spam and stupid chain letters and he continues this even though I’ve asked him to stop.

However, when he’s not spamming me all he talks about is Simply Scripts and how he desperately wants to return.

Here’s what he wrote me recently:

“Bruce -

I miss SimplyScripts a lot. As you know, Don banned me without explanation at a time when the entire first season of Banana Chan was about to be live on the site, in its entirety, for the first time ever -- something I'd been trying to do for a very long time. So basically, he hurt me very bad without explanation.

Please help me come up with ideas to get me back onto the site. And if you know of any other SimplyScripts regulars on facebook, please direct me to their profile so I can f-list request them.

Peace.”

I feel that the first part is a lie. I recall a thread, “Little Darling” I believe, where Don gave him a clear warning to cool it or else. I’m also sure that Don would give at least some kind of explanation for a ban. Second, I didn’t follow Banana Chan but I thought the first season had already been posted. In fact I recall him posting at least 32 episodes or so. Not including the dozens of revised episodes that popped up almost monthly. I might be wrong though.

I have to say I agree with what has already been stated. Alan was all about Banana Chan and nothing else. There would be times where he seemed to promote other works by other authors (Better Days, Reporting Live, The Lunchroom) but that was only to get more promotion out for his series. When Alan worked on my series he constantly put Banana Chan references in scripts and then would get irate with me, when I would take all of them out.

He had a big hand in our show in Season 2 (which ironically is considered the worst) but he was eventually let go because he was suggesting ridiculous ideas and fighting with other writers. In one of our forums (we have our own forums for writers) he ranked the top 5 episodes – which were all written by him. The last straw was when he threatened us because he couldn’t access the forums anymore. He said if we didn’t create an entirely new forum board, sorely for him, he would start to spread bad things about our show. Can you believe that?

I’m still in shock when he had the audacity to claim he was the best series writer AND then admitted that he was lying to Steven Cameron about liking “Better Days” only because of the Banana Chan references. That’s a dick move if I’ve ever seen one.

In all honesty, I’m not really in favor of him coming back. While he did help get my show out there and helped write some (7 episodes in total), I think he has a very big ego, can’t take criticism, and plays up the whole innocent act when people start calling him out on his crap.

Then again, it’s just one man’s opinion.

P.S.
Alan also mentioned that because of the ban he can’t even access the site. Every time he tries to access it, it simply says “404 Not Found” or something along those lines. Can you really not even access the site anymore after a forum ban or is this just Alan fishing for sympathy?

Even if someone is very annoying and liked only by few, if any. it doesn't seem right to have ongoing negative discussions about that person when they have no way to respond...

Quoted from Bruce3456 I feel that the first part is a lie. I recall a thread, “Little Darling” I believe, where Don gave him a clear warning to cool it or else. I’m also sure that Don would give at least some kind of explanation for a ban. Second, I didn’t follow Banana Chan but I thought the first season had already been posted. In fact I recall him posting at least 32 episodes or so. Not including the dozens of revised episodes that popped up almost monthly. I might be wrong though.

There were a couple of different drafts of Banana Chan up.  Alan would put them up, beg everyone to critique, take it out and repost it it with very minor changes in it and start it all over again.

Quoted from Bruce3456 I have to say I agree with what has already been stated. Alan was all about Banana Chan and nothing else. There would be times where he seemed to promote other works by other authors (Better Days, Reporting Live, The Lunchroom) but that was only to get more promotion out for his series. When Alan worked on my series he constantly put Banana Chan references in scripts and then would get irate with me, when I would take all of them out.

Alan's life was Banana Chan.  He put his entire life into it.  In the first one week challenge, his entry had BC characters in it.

Quoted from Bruce3456 Alan also mentioned that because of the ban he can’t even access the site. Every time he tries to access it, it simply says “404 Not Found” or something along those lines. Can you really not even access the site anymore after a forum ban or is this just Alan fishing for sympathy?

I can't believe this one.  If you're not logged in, you should be able to view the site.  

Quoted from tomson Even if someone is very annoying and liked only by few, if any. it doesn't seem right to have ongoing negative discussions about that person when they have no way to respond...

I remember reading that Alan wouldn't even read scripts for a review exchange.  He'd simple glance the other reviews on the thread and copy opinions.  And God forbid you didn't like BC.  I still have the pm's that he said, slamming me for not thinking his work was the best thing since Shakespeare.

Besides,  he's the one thing that we can all agree on.



Phil

And for those of you who showed up late, Simplyscripts Productions presents The Best of Alan.



Phil

Quoted from tomson Even if someone is very annoying and liked only by few, if any. it doesn't seem right to have ongoing negative discussions about that person when they have no way to respond...

Point taken.  The Alan tree has been shaken enough, and this thread has run its course.